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Post by lizacreates on Apr 16, 2023 13:48:03 GMT
I have a feeling more and more of these bribes will emerge. It’s been discovered that Crow bought Thomas’ mom’s home in which she still resides and improved it for a supposed goal of turning it into a Clarence Thomas Museum someday. Yeah, right.
Jim Jordan, chair of the House JUDICIARY Committee, is going after Alvin Bragg with all guns blazing, but hasn’t said a peep about an actual JURIST whose graft and corruption are all over the news.
So, dude wants to exercise oversight authority he DOES NOT have over a local DA, but will not exercise oversight authority he DOES have over a justice. I’d have more respect for him if he just comes right out and says “Screw all of you, we protect our own.” It would at least be honest.
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Post by hop2 on Apr 16, 2023 14:17:09 GMT
I have a feeling more and more of these bribes will emerge. Maybe we will finally find out who paid off Beer boys huge debt. It might be helpful to know who owns him… |
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 16, 2023 14:48:27 GMT
With him, it just keeps getting worse www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/16/clarence-thomas-ginger-financial-disclosure/Clarence Thomas has for years claimed income from a defunct real estate firm
The misstatements, which began when a family business transferred its holdings to another company, are part of a pattern that has raised questions about how the Supreme Court justice views his obligation to accurately report details about his finances to the public.
Over the last two decades, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has reported on required financial disclosure forms that his family received rental income totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars from a firm called Ginger, Ltd., Partnership.
But that company — a Nebraska real estate firm launched in the 1980s by his wife and her relatives — has not existed since 2006.
That year, the family real estate company was shut down and a separate firm was created, state incorporation records show. The similarly named firm assumed control of the shuttered company’s land leasing business, according to property records.
Since that time, however, Thomas has continued to report income from the defunct company — between $50,000 and $100,000 annually in recent years — and there is no mention of the newer firm, Ginger Holdings, LLC, on the forms.
The previously unreported misstatement might be dismissed as a paperwork error. But it is among a series of errors and omissions that Thomas has made on required annual financial disclosure forms over the past several decades, a review of those records shows. Together, they have raised questions about how seriously Thomas views his responsibility to accurately report details about his finances to the public.
A judicial ethics expert said the pattern was troubling.
“Any presumption in favor of Thomas’s integrity and commitment to comply with the law is gone. His assurances and promises cannot be trusted. Is there more? What’s the whole story? The nation needs to know,” said Stephen Gillers, a legal ethics expert at New York University.
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Post by lizacreates on Apr 16, 2023 15:00:05 GMT
I have a feeling more and more of these bribes will emerge. Maybe we will finally find out who paid off Beer boys huge debt. It might be helpful to know who owns him… Maybe. Somebody ponied up. The “friends reimbursed me” story never really convinced me. 200K? Really? If it were his parents indeed who subsidized his house and expenses, kinda curious he never just said so and remained opaque about it when questioned. I read Mencimer’s take in Mother Jones a couple years ago which essentially says, “Y’all (meaning us Libs) should quit this guessing game because logic dictates his debts were paid off by legitimate means.” Eh, no. If Mencimer had actually done investigative work on this, I’d take her word for it. But she did not. All she did was parrot Kavanaugh’s claims. I don’t know if deep down she believes whatever the reason is, it doesn’t matter. For me, personally, it matters because as Thomas and the Federalist Society have clearly demonstrated, you really can buy yourself a justice on the Supreme Court! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 16, 2023 16:02:41 GMT
aj2hallDoes Ginger = Ginni ?!?!? Bernie Sanders is on right now with Jen Psaki
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 16, 2023 16:11:15 GMT
Just another tid bit:
The Post said that, since 2006 when the real estate firm shut down, Thomas, whose annual salary is $285,000, has reported receiving between $270,000 and $750,000 from it.
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Post by Gem Girl on Apr 16, 2023 19:56:16 GMT
Jim Jordan, chair of the House JUDICIARY Committee, is going after Alvin Bragg with all guns blazing, but hasn’t said a peep about an actual JURIST whose graft and corruption are all over the news. So, dude wants to exercise oversight authority he DOES NOT have over a local DA, but will not exercise oversight authority he DOES have over a justice. I’d have more respect for him if he just comes right out and says “Screw all of you, we protect our own.” It would at least be honest. He's a slimy worm and a kiss-up. The notion of integrity seems to be completely foreign to him. |
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Post by Gem Girl on Apr 16, 2023 20:03:39 GMT
Maybe we will finally find out who paid off Beer boys huge debt. It might be helpful to know who owns him… Maybe. Somebody ponied up. The “ friends reimbursed me” story never really convinced me. 200K? Really? If it were his parents indeed who subsidized his house and expenses, kinda curious he never just said so and remained opaque about it when questioned. For me, personally, it matters because as Thomas and the Federalist Society have clearly demonstrated, you really can buy yourself a justice on the Supreme Court! |
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Post by hop2 on Apr 16, 2023 20:17:23 GMT
Maybe. Somebody ponied up. The “ friends reimbursed me” story never really convinced me. 200K? Really? If it were his parents indeed who subsidized his house and expenses, kinda curious he never just said so and remained opaque about it when questioned. For me, personally, it matters because as Thomas and the Federalist Society have clearly demonstrated, you really can buy yourself a justice on the Supreme Court! Nah, we were built as an I got mine y’all can fend for yourselves nation. It’s deeply ingrained. Part & parcel to the institutionalized problems we have to change to grow as a nation. |
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Post by lizacreates on Apr 16, 2023 21:08:20 GMT
Maybe. Somebody ponied up. The “ friends reimbursed me” story never really convinced me. 200K? Really? If it were his parents indeed who subsidized his house and expenses, kinda curious he never just said so and remained opaque about it when questioned. For me, personally, it matters because as Thomas and the Federalist Society have clearly demonstrated, you really can buy yourself a justice on the Supreme Court! I almost forgot the freakin’ down payment on the house. Supposedly financed by the Thrift Savings Plan. There are a lot of things I don’t know how to do, but the one thing I do know is how to add and subtract. He said the value of his plan was $70K. The down payment was $245K. 245-70=175. Who paid the $175K? When his own financial disclosure at that time stated he had only $10K in the bank? But, I’ll admit those dollar amounts are piddling compared to this which I learned much later: One unknown donor gave the Judicial Crisis Network, the group that backs radically conservative judicial nominees, $15M to aggressively promote Kavanaugh’s nomination. One unidentified donor. Fifteen million dollars. To get Kavanaugh installed. I don’t care how wealthy you are, but you don’t spend that kind of dough unless you want something in return. |
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Post by dizzycheermom on Apr 16, 2023 21:14:06 GMT
If George Soros had a house full of Nazi memorabilia would Fox give him a pass: Mehdi Hasan asks Sarah K. Burris April 09, 2023 MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan noted that for the past few weeks, Fox hosts and conservative pundits have collected around the false conspiracy theory that Jewish funder George Soros was behind the prosecution. "The long-standing smear against him, one of the big attack lines from the right is to suggest Soros was a Nazi sympathizer and collaborated during the war," Hasan said. "It's nonsense. It's been repeatedly debunked. Soros, who is Jewish, was two years old when Hitler came to power and was a teenager during World War II. But here is where things get interesting, ironic, bizarre, in fact. The Republican Party has its own billionaire donor, who was accused of meddling in the judicial system. Conservative real estate mogul Harlan Crow, who, this week, we learned, thanks to ProPublica, has been taking Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas on undeclared, luxury trips for years, for free, on his yacht, to an all-male retreat." *** It made Hasan wonder if it's time to start calling Thomas a Crow-backed Justice the way the right calls someone Soros-backed. His defenders on the right say that this is all unfair, absurd! That Crow is just commemorating the horrors of the 20th century," said Hasan. "I mean, Crow self says that he's just preserving history. Now to be clear, I'm not saying Harlan Crow is or is not a Nazi sympathizer. What I am saying is that when you have Nazi linens in your house and a copy of Mein Kompf autographed by the Führer himself, I don't think you can chalk that down to preserving history. And for those saying this isn't a story, this isn't fair to Harlan Crow. Again, remember the double standard is in play. If George Soros had a home full of Hitler memorabilia and a garden full of dictator statues, would Fox in the GOP give him a pass? Or would they be losing their minds and screaming, Nazi at him? And yet we have Harlan Crow, and Harlan Crow's home." He closed by repeating something he's echoed for many years: every accusation from a Republican or a conservative is actually a confession. www.rawstory.com/harlan-crow-clarence-thomas/ I have been wondering why people don't say Koch-backed the same way the right says Soros-backed?? |
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Post by Gem Girl on Apr 16, 2023 22:43:56 GMT
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Post by epeanymous on Apr 16, 2023 22:44:32 GMT
Honestly as much as I hate his jurisprudence and everything else, it's also just incredibly depressing to have devoted my career to something where the people at the apex have this little respect for the profession they've chosen.
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Post by Gem Girl on Apr 16, 2023 23:14:37 GMT
Honestly as much as I hate his jurisprudence and everything else, it's also just incredibly depressing to have devoted my career to something where the people at the apex have this little respect for the profession they've chosen. Or that somebody with so little regard for ethics wouldn't have been routed out before he could rise to that level. I suspect that many decent, dedicated legal professionals are dispirited by this. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 16, 2023 23:25:13 GMT
^^^^^^^..... Or very glad they didn't get ipnvolved!! Gem Girl |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Apr 17, 2023 0:39:06 GMT
It just keeps getting better and better. I hope it all comes out and safeguards are put in place for the future.
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Post by mollycoddle on Apr 17, 2023 1:07:18 GMT
With him, it just keeps getting worse www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2023/04/16/clarence-thomas-ginger-financial-disclosure/Clarence Thomas has for years claimed income from a defunct real estate firm
The misstatements, which began when a family business transferred its holdings to another company, are part of a pattern that has raised questions about how the Supreme Court justice views his obligation to accurately report details about his finances to the public.
Over the last two decades, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has reported on required financial disclosure forms that his family received rental income totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars from a firm called Ginger, Ltd., Partnership.
But that company — a Nebraska real estate firm launched in the 1980s by his wife and her relatives — has not existed since 2006.
That year, the family real estate company was shut down and a separate firm was created, state incorporation records show. The similarly named firm assumed control of the shuttered company’s land leasing business, according to property records.
Since that time, however, Thomas has continued to report income from the defunct company — between $50,000 and $100,000 annually in recent years — and there is no mention of the newer firm, Ginger Holdings, LLC, on the forms.
The previously unreported misstatement might be dismissed as a paperwork error. But it is among a series of errors and omissions that Thomas has made on required annual financial disclosure forms over the past several decades, a review of those records shows. Together, they have raised questions about how seriously Thomas views his responsibility to accurately report details about his finances to the public.
A judicial ethics expert said the pattern was troubling.
“Any presumption in favor of Thomas’s integrity and commitment to comply with the law is gone. His assurances and promises cannot be trusted. Is there more? What’s the whole story? The nation needs to know,” said Stephen Gillers, a legal ethics expert at New York University.
This is…disgraceful. I doubt that Thomas will resign, but how are people supposed to respect the SC when a Justice lies n his financial disclosure forms? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 17, 2023 11:18:30 GMT
Um.. ok.. sure... Blame it on the aides.. They could still call him in for a public hearing. Seems a bit of public shaming is pushing him an inch... Let us push for the mile. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has decided to finally disclose a real estate deal with Republican megadonor Harlan Crow nine years after it occurred.CNN reports that Thomas will amend his financial disclosure form to include a 2014 real estate deal that involved a sale of three properties to Crow that totaled over $130,000. CNN notes that the disclosure is an apparent acknowledgement by Thomas that he should have legally disclosed the transactions when they occurred. One of CNN's sources says that "Thomas has always filled out his forms with the help of aides, and that it was an oversight not to report the real estate transaction," and added that "Thomas believed he didn’t have to disclose because he lost money on the deal."www.rawstory.com/supreme-court-2659865504/#cxrecs_s |
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 17, 2023 13:25:17 GMT
heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/april-16-2023?r=1f0orz&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=emailThere is more news about Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and his misreporting of his financial connections. This morning, Shawn Boburg and Emma Brown of the Washington Post reported that for twenty years, Thomas has reported rental income totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars from a real estate firm that was shut down in 2006.
The misstatement might be dismissed as a problem with paperwork, the authors note. “But it is among a series of errors and omissions that Thomas has made on required annual financial disclosure forms over the past several decades, a review of those records shows. Together, they have raised questions about how seriously Thomas views his responsibility to accurately report details about his finances to the public.”
The cascade of stories about Thomas threatens to continue to undermine the legitimacy of this Supreme Court.
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Post by dizzycheermom on Apr 17, 2023 16:10:02 GMT
Oh ok! I'm still learning a lot about politics. Was not involved at all before 2016. |
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Post by dizzycheermom on Apr 18, 2023 1:25:24 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 18, 2023 2:18:54 GMT
I never liked him, I believe Anita Hill. And I hate his politics. But, his actions are completely unethical for any judge, let alone one in a lifetime appointment on the Supreme Court. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/04/17/clarence-thomas-disclosures-harlan-crow-respect/Thomas expects the nation to take seriously his views on the subtlest contours of the Constitution. He also expects us to believe he cannot understand a clear and simple instruction on a disclosure form; that he sees no distinction between “personal hospitality” and trips halfway around the world by private jet; and that he sees nothing wrong about having a member of the board of the conservative American Enterprise Institute purchase and fix up his mother’s house.
A little context: In 1969, Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas resigned after it was learned that he had accepted, then returned, $20,000 from a Wall Street financier. At the time, Chief Justice Earl Warren felt it was important that Fortas step down to preserve the court’s reputation.
Thomas accepted gifts from Crow worth many times that amount, even counting for inflation, and failed to report them. And then there is all the money Ginni Thomas has received from right-wing organizations that lobby on issues before the court — plus her outrageous involvement in the “Stop the Steal” putsch that led to the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol insurrection.
Thomas doesn’t believe in affirmative action or protecting voting rights, though he benefited from both. He does believe in living the good life among millionaires and billionaires whose interests he just happens to protect in his opinions.
My mental image of Thomas used to be of him sitting on the Supreme Court bench during arguments, silent and scowling. Now, I see him on vacation, smoking a cigar with Crow and his buddies, laughing as though he doesn’t have a care in the world. The joke is on us.
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 18, 2023 20:47:18 GMT
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/04/18/clarence-thomas-disclosures-investigation-crow/Complaints about Justice Thomas’s disclosures sent to judicial committee
Allegations from congressional Democrats that Justice Clarence Thomas likely violated federal ethics laws in his dealings with a Republican donor have been sent to a committee of federal judges responsible for “addressing allegations of errors or omissions in the filing of financial disclosure reports,” a top judicial official said Tuesday.
Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) and Rep. Henry C. “Hank” Johnson (D-Ga.) had requested that the Judicial Conference of the United States investigate Thomas’s failure to disclose travel and real estate deals with Republican donor and Dallas business executive Harlan Crow. Whitehouse and Johnson also said the matter should be referred to Attorney General Merrick Garland.
“There is reasonable cause to believe that Justice Thomas willfully failed to file information required to be reported under the Ethics in Government Act of 1978,” the Democrats wrote.
U.S. District Judge Roslynn R. Mauskopf, director of the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts, responded Tuesday to say the lawmakers’ complaint had been referred to the authorized committee.
“I have forwarded your letter to the Judicial Conference Committee on Financial Disclosure, which is responsible for implementing the disclosure provisions of the Ethics in Government Act and addressing allegations of errors or omissions in the filing of financial disclosure reports,” Mauskopf wrote in a letter obtained by The Washington Post.
Her short reply did not indicate how or whether the committee would proceed.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 18, 2023 21:18:38 GMT
Keep in mind Thomas doesn't have to pay for his mother's rent etc. It is Crow's ongoing gift the her and Clarence.
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Post by lizacreates on Apr 18, 2023 21:34:51 GMT
Turns out Crow's bribery was already raised in 2011. Roberts didn't do anything about it.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 18, 2023 22:24:19 GMT
Turns out Crow's bribery was already raised in 2011. Roberts didn't do anything about it. As I said earlier but it seems truer now.. Chief Justice Roberts your Court is corrupt!! |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 18, 2023 22:34:17 GMT
Although, there may be more to come.., Allegations that Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas violated federal ethics laws in his dealings with Republican donor and Dallas business executive Harlan Crow have been sent to a judicial committee, according to the Washington Post. The Post reported that the Judicial Conference of the U.S., a committee of federal judges responsible for “addressing allegations of errors or omissions in the filing of financial disclosure reports,” had received requests to investigate by Democrats. The news comes after columnist Jamelle Bouie for The New York Times said the scandal proved that the law was just a suggestion for certain people. Following ethics complaints by Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) and Rep. Henry C. “Hank” Johnson (D-GA), the judicial committee gave a short nod that didn't go into the details or acknowledge whether the committee will proceed: U.S. District Judge Roslynn R. Mauskopf, director of the Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts, responded Tuesday to say the lawmakers’ complaint had been referred to the authorized committee.
“I have forwarded your letter to the Judicial Conference Committee on Financial Disclosure, which is responsible for implementing the disclosure provisions of the Ethics in Government Act and addressing allegations of errors or omissions in the filing of financial disclosure reports,” Mauskopf wrote in a letter obtained by The Washington Post.The brief letter is hailed as a good next step, according to the Washington Post: Kedric Payne, senior director of ethics at the Campaign Legal Center, which had also lodged a complaint against Thomas, said it was significant that the conference acknowledged the letter from the lawmakers and referred it to a committee. www.rawstory.com/clarence-thomas-gop-donor-dealings-go-to-committee-of-federal-judges-report/ |
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Post by onelasttime on Apr 20, 2023 19:47:28 GMT
Good luck with that. Or don’t hold your breath.
From The Guardian
“Senate asks supreme court chief justice to testify on ethics amid Clarence Thomas revelations – live”
”Senate invites supreme court chief justice to testify on ethics
The Democratic chair of the Senate judiciary committee has asked chief justice John Roberts to testify on 2 May about the court’s ethics, following revelations of undisclosed links between a Republican megadonor and conservative justice Clarence Thomas.
In a letter to Roberts, judiciary committee chair Richard Durbin did not mention those reports about Thomas specifically, but noted that since he last addressed the court’s ethics in 2011 “there has been a steady stream of revelations regarding Justices falling short of the ethical standards expected of other federal judges and, indeed, of public servants generally. These problems were already apparent back in 2011, and the Court’s decade-long failure to address them has contributed to a crisis of public confidence. The status quo is no longer tenable.”
Durbin said the hearing would focus on “the ethical rules that govern the Justices of the Supreme Court and potential reforms to those rules,” while noting that the “scope of your testimony can be limited to these subjects, and that you would not be expected to answer questions from Senators regarding any other“ matters.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 20, 2023 19:51:05 GMT
If it is bipartisan, closed door session with the leadership would ok with me, to start!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Apr 23, 2023 20:17:16 GMT
Opinion ... About Thomas from C.R.E.W... We’re just starting to digest the implications of Justice Clarence Thomas’ latest ethics scandal — but as with so many past scandals, it is quickly becoming clear that the original allegations may not be what finally initiates some accountability. Indeed, last week the Senate Judiciary Committee officially requested Chief Justice of the United States John Roberts to testify about ethical standards on the country’s highest court. And a possible cover-up might have been the final straw. It’s hard to understate the seriousness of the recent bombshell revelations about Thomas’ decades-long patronage relationship with billionaire Republican mega-donor Harlan Crow. That Thomas felt comfortable accepting the series of opulent gifts and vacations from the reclusive real estate mogul is an obvious indictment of our judicial ethics system. The fact that he appears to have concealed these benefits from the public after he was mildly criticized in the wake of a report in 2004 may be just as great a problem, underscoring the need for serious ethics reform at the country's highest court. *** As my organization, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (or CREW), explained in a recent complaint to Attorney General Merrick Garland and Chief Justice John Roberts, Thomas’ decision not to disclose these luxuries as gifts or in-kind travel-reimbursements, and concealing the real estate transactions without properly disclosing them on his financial disclosure reports, likely violated the Ethics in Government Act. But his decades of deception will have a far deeper impact on our democracy. What else might he be hiding? And are other justices concealing similar relationships with wealthy and powerful activists? These questions will naturally lead the public to wonder whether any member of the Supreme Court is truly independent — and whether the court itself can render impartial justice at all. And if Americans begin to believe that the Supreme Court’s decisions are not based on an impartial interpretation of the law, they will eventually begin to question the legitimacy of the court’s power. *** Thomas’ actions place him in potential legal jeopardy, and further undermine the Supreme Court’s legitimacy in the eyes of a public that has become increasingly skeptical of its ability to act as an apolitical arbiter of the law. Like former President Richard Nixon before him, Thomas’ apparent deception has created a crisis of confidence in our institutions of government. www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/supreme-court-chief-john-roberts-clarence-thomas-problem-rcna80882 |
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