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Post by MichyM on Apr 11, 2023 17:49:07 GMT
It'll be a while, if ever, until I invest in one. I mean I've got to deal with the foiling thing first. But anyhow....
I'd never looked at the scan and cut machines before and had no idea that there are so many, and that prices range all over the place ($200 to $1,000). At first glance I am completely overwhelmed since I know next to nothing about them.
If I want one, do you have a suggestion into which one(s) that I should be looking at? And do I need any of the extras?
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Post by scrapnnana on Apr 11, 2023 20:20:37 GMT
I have an older model of the ScanNCut. I already had a Silhouette Cameo, which I love, but I have to admit, the ScanNCut is easy-peasy for cutting out your stamped images, as long as you have a solid outline. If not, fill in the gaps with pencil, which can be erased after it’s cut.
The older model that I have is the CM350, and I think that it may have cost me as much as $350, but it was a newer model at the time. It wasn’t cheap, but I have a ton of older stamps that don’t have matching dies. I like that it can stand alone, without having to use the computer, and it can cut out a bunch of stamped images at a time. I bought an extra blade and extra mats.
WARNING: never use Washi tape to hold stamped card stock to your SNC cutting mat. I nearly ruined my machine because the Washi tape came off and stuck over the scanner eye. I did finally succeed in getting it off, but I’ll never make that mistake again.
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Post by lindas on Apr 11, 2023 21:22:01 GMT
I have the SDX125, think I paid $299 for mine a few years ago. I’m bought it specifically for the scan feature so I could cut my stamped images, especially my old wooden block rubber stamps. I figure it’s paid for itself with what I’ve saved by not buying matching die sets. That’s not to say I don’t still buy dies but if the stamp designs are reasonably simple then I pass on the die. I also like the fact that if I cut without the white border if I want. It’s nice to be able to stamp a bunch of images, stick it In the machine and let it do the work instead die cutting each individually. It’s also easy, and cheaper, to buy SVG files from the Silhouette design store.
Check out the Papered Chef on YouTube, she gives very detailed instructions on cutting and the other features of the machine.
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Post by scrapnnana on Apr 12, 2023 0:24:26 GMT
I came across a review that I wrote on my blog back in May of 2018. I will edit it just a bit, especially since I have grown to like it better than I did at first:
I had unrealistic expectations based on overly positive reviews that never mentioned any of the limitations.
The videos always showed the machine cutting out cute, but simple stamps with a slight border. Since a lot of people prefer that style of stamp, I did not think much about it. A lot of people also like a slight border. I did wonder a little about that one until I saw someone cutting right on the lines. However, those were also simpler, less detailed stamps.
My huge stamp collection is made up of more intricate, detailed stamps than simple ones, and I want them fussy cut right on the line. No border.
Intricate details do not always scan well, so either a lot of the stamped images don't scan the full design, or they don't scan the stamped image at all. Your stamp needs to have a solid outer line, with no break in order to get a cutting line that will cut the entire stamped image, without chopping off parts. You can and should use a pencil to create a solid outer line for these types of stamps. Just erase the pencil line after cutting.
It can see a fully colored image much better than just an uncolored stamped image, especially when there are a lot of details. While coloring, you can fill in any inconvenient little artistic gaps in that outer line. However, I prefer to stamp and cut out a bunch of images at a time, to color in later, once I know what colors I will be using for the project that the stamped image will eventually be part of, so this issue is a bit frustrating to me at times.
One very good thing about the machine, though, is that once you get a good scan of a stamp, you can save it and keep it for later. That comes in handy if you like to cut first, stamp second (my recent tutorial post). I did a blog post awhile back with that title, although I was using dies, not an electronic cutter.
If you like simple, cute stamps that have a simple outline, the machine works great. If you like a border, many of the more intricate stamps will scan and cut fine, too, just not if you want to fussy cut on the line. If you stamp and color first, this machine works well, as long as your colors are dark enough for the machine to see them.
Had I known these things before, I probably would not have bought the machine. It’s a few extra steps to create stamp blanks in my Silhouette Cameo, but I can do up multiple blanks easily, along with a template, then use my stamp platform to stamp them all later. However, if I am only doing one card, and have colored the stamp, this machine cuts it out quickly and easily. I do wish there were more flexibility in the amount of white border around the stamp when using my ScanNCut. It’s either cut on the outside line, have a 4 mm border, or larger border. I have more control in Silhouette for the amount of border.
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Post by mbanda on Apr 12, 2023 16:43:48 GMT
I also have the older model CM350 that I got several years ago. I really love it for cutting my stamped images. I think I paid around $300-$350 for it and I've more than used it enough to justify the cost by not purchasing the matching dies to sets. Like scrapnnana mentioned it works best on images with a solid line. I have used a pencil to close lines so I could get a good cut. I also like that I don't have to use it with a computer. It has some additional features that I've never used - I just keep it very basic and use it for my stamped images. The Brother mats are terrible and lose their stick almost immediately so I do have to use some kind of tape to hold my paper down.
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Post by MichyM on Apr 12, 2023 17:58:32 GMT
I have another question as I look at the different models. Is "on screen editing" a feature you use, or one you wish you had? The DX model is on sale (possibly clearance) for $199 and it is very tempting. But only if it has the features I'll need. The 350 appears to be discontinued, and the 125 is double the price of the DX.
Also, do you use their designs, website much? Or mainly just scan and cut your stamps and that's it?
Lastly, is anyone using a different mat in their machine rather than the one from Brother?
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Post by lindas on Apr 12, 2023 18:18:53 GMT
Yes, I do use on screen editing. I don’t know of any models unless they’re really old ones that don’t have the on screen editing. I don’t use any mats other than Brother. I have the regular one, the low tack and the scan mat which is really necessary. I occasionally use some of their designs but that wasn’t a selling feature for me.
No matter which one you decide to get just be sure it has auto blade. No really don’t want to have to fool with adjusting the blade.
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Post by scrapnnana on Apr 12, 2023 19:46:34 GMT
I definitely use the on screen editing. For one thing, you can see if the machine sees a gap in your outline that you don’t, so you can deselect that image, preventing it from being cut to ribbons.
That reminds me. Lighting in your craft room makes a difference sometimes in how it will cut.
You can wash and re-sticky the mats with Zig Two way glue, just like Silhouette mats.
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Post by FurryP on Apr 13, 2023 1:16:55 GMT
scrapnnana , I think I remember joblackford posting a photo of her cut images. I don't remember there being too much white border. Maybe she can weigh in? ETA: I could be wrong though, it's been a while since I saw that photo. And without a ruler I don't know what 4mm looks like.
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Post by joblackford on Apr 13, 2023 2:13:55 GMT
I have the 350 and paid something like $300 for it when it was the new model. I justified that I would save that much easily if I didn’t buy dies but eventually I realized I like the look of die cuts better (no sharp edge) and I don’t especially enjoy coloring and cutting. I don’t use it more than a few times a year and I’m considering selling it.
I’m not sure about the on-screen editing feature unless that means you have to use the Canvas software to do the tweaking. I wouldn’t like that. The screen on mine is small and hard to see but being able to do the cutting without hooking up to a computer was one of the selling points for me.
Canvas is not intuitive at all, and I’ve struggled to do anything besides cutting out stamps or basic shapes. I never look at the included shapes - I’ve used the hearts for one project where I cut up paint chip calendar pages. But more recently I forgot that I could use the machine instead of buying dies.
As scrapnnana said there isn’t much flexibility for border size. It either cuts on the line, or with a small halo/border or a big border. I’ll link an example from Flickr later - my iPad is glitching right now. I like the small 4mm border size.
I got a stash of cheap SnC mats from a store that was closing down but I’ve used the same 2 or 3 for years (infrequently). I think I have a couple unopened. I’ve never tried off brand mats.
It’s a useful gadget but also takes some commitment to figuring it out, especially using the canvas workspace. I don’t have that kind of patience. I’ve only bought a couple of files to cut. The first two were very easy and made nice Xmas and Easter cards but didn’t really feel very crafty/satisfying to me. The Doodlebug one I got recently was a complete bust - I got it into the canvas workspace but had trouble figuring out how to separate all the bits to cut in different colors, it was such a headache, the whole thing just felt like too much trouble so I gave up.
The more I reflect on the machine the more I realize I don’t like it even though my brain says it’s a useful tool. I’m not a good salesperson for it but I’m pretty sure I will sell mine.
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Post by joblackford on Apr 13, 2023 2:42:15 GMT
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Post by cmpeter on Apr 13, 2023 23:54:02 GMT
I have the 350 too. It was worth the purchase for me because I like to stamp and Copic color images.
I’ve never used any of their images or designed my own.
When my mat gets unsticky, I tack my images down with a removable dot runner. I try and be careful to not get adhesive on the outline where the blade cuts, just to keep it from getting gummed up.
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Post by FurryP on Apr 14, 2023 3:54:08 GMT
That 4mm border that joblackford posted seems as close as dies will cut an image. Am I wrong? Or is that it just looks similar in the picture? I admit to wanting a SnC for "saving money on dies" but I am so used to the actual die cuts, I would very likely not like the sharper, non-rounded edges.
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Post by joblackford on Apr 14, 2023 4:44:02 GMT
That 4mm border that joblackford posted seems as close as dies will cut an image. Am I wrong? Or is that it just looks similar in the picture? I admit to wanting a SnC for "saving money on dies" but I am so used to the actual die cuts, I would very likely not like the sharper, non-rounded edges. Yes, I think most dies probably cut a similar border although I've never done a direct comparison. I think you can run a bone folder over the sharp edge to smooth it a little but it's never as nice as a die. It's also harder to get interior cuts and I still like to get dies that include stitching and embossed details. I also end up with dies in kits and bundles and when I forget that I have a cutting machine... If I could have the machine set up all the time I might be better about using it - that might play a role in deciding whether to invest or not.
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Post by scrapnnana on Apr 14, 2023 15:19:51 GMT
That 4mm border that joblackford posted seems as close as dies will cut an image. Am I wrong? Or is that it just looks similar in the picture? I admit to wanting a SnC for "saving money on dies" but I am so used to the actual die cuts, I would very likely not like the sharper, non-rounded edges. Yes, I think most dies probably cut a similar border although I've never done a direct comparison. I think you can run a bone folder over the sharp edge to smooth it a little but it's never as nice as a die. It's also harder to get interior cuts and I still like to get dies that include stitching and embossed details. I also end up with dies in kits and bundles and when I forget that I have a cutting machine... If I could have the machine set up all the time I might be better about using it - that might play a role in deciding whether to invest or not. I agree that it gets about the same amount of white border as dies. As much as I love dies, I don’t like a white border around my stamped images. With the SNC, you can cut on the line, which I appreciate. However, if I have to have a border, I would like it to be less than the smallest border option that the SNC gives me. I can adjust it in my Cameo to be as wide or as thin as I want. I scan in my stamped images with a scanner into Photoshop. From there I import it into the Silhouette software to create a cut file for my stamp blanks, which I can cut a bunch of for future use. It takes more time than just scanning and cutting stamped images with the ScanNCut, at least the first time. Most people cannot afford more than one electronic cutter, whether due to finance or space constraints. I saved up to buy each of my machines, and none were impulse buys. If I had been able to figure out the work around to scan my stamps without the useless PixScan mat, I would not have felt I could justify the expense of buying the SNC, because convenience alone wasn’t a good enough reason for me to spend that much money on an additional cutter. I bought the SNC because I thought I would stop buying matching dies for the stamps I buy. In reality, like many others here, I prefer the edge that a die gives. I have still saved money in the long run, though, because I no longer automatically buy matching dies these days. I am at least a lot pickier about which ones I buy. One other factor: I have been buying stamps since about 1986. The vast majority of my stamps have no matching dies, and no dies will ever be available for them. That was actually the clinching factor in my decision to buy the SNC, and is the reason why I will never sell it, even though I don’t use it to the extent that I expected, or could, or should.
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Post by Ryann on Apr 14, 2023 15:29:10 GMT
That 4mm border that joblackford posted seems as close as dies will cut an image. Am I wrong? Or is that it just looks similar in the picture? I admit to wanting a SnC for "saving money on dies" but I am so used to the actual die cuts, I would very likely not like the sharper, non-rounded edges. If I could have the machine set up all the time I might be better about using it - that might play a role in deciding whether to invest or not. This is the main reason I haven't purchased a SnC. I have a Cameo 3, but it's not located in a place that I can just turn it on and use, so it doesn't get used. I know that I would use (or rather, not use) the SnC the same way if I had one now. However, in the next iteration of a crafty space I intend to have space for machines to be usable with only turning on the power button. I'd like to get the SDX125E model for the larger display screen after we move. MichyM If you haven't gotten one by then, you're welcome to come over and give it a test drive.
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Post by don on Apr 16, 2023 5:14:52 GMT
I just got mine 3 weeks ago. I kinda got it figured out. I have done no border cutting, it is amazing if the item(s) is well defined. Someone mentioned using a pencil to define blank spaces, I'll add use a heavy hand. It runs very quiet and faster than I thought it would.
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Post by MichyM on Apr 16, 2023 20:44:48 GMT
Thanks everyone! I'm going to try and post some images next week of some stamped images to get y'all's take on whether the Scan n Cut will cut them, or if I'd need to use pencil to outline them, or whether they probably wouldn't work well at all. I think that will give me a clearer idea of what to expect with one of these.
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