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Post by huskergal on Apr 18, 2023 18:17:33 GMT
The U.S. has lots of bad food, but I don't recall a Presidential dinner where spray cheese, Velveeta, (grits are delicious), Jell salads, and casseroles were served, unless Trump did. So? Apparently he loves quiche and had a hand in the recipe 🤷🏻♀️but why the need to be so rude? Not intending to be rude. British Cuisine
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Post by lainey on Apr 18, 2023 18:19:25 GMT
So one dodgy sounding quiche means an entire countries food is terrible, cool story bro.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 18, 2023 18:28:06 GMT
LOL! We were two days in London when my kids begged for Chipotle - we do NOT support eating American fast food in other countries- but that was when gave up on "British" food and just ate all the curry and other ethnic food offered in London - I am very confused on just how they can embrace the tasteless mush -and that recipe! seriously what a waste of a quiche! What 'British' food specifically did you try? I don't even know what the bottom two things on that picture are meant to be, I guess they could have been improved by some spray cheese! Too many fish and chips in a historic ie touristy locales. I'm gonna leave aside the whole bizzare beans for breakfast as we don't actually eat breakfast at home so it was pretty irrelevant although they thought it was funny. We hit a couple very popular ie touristy restaurants in London and then realized we were very much better served by the around the corner ethnic restaurant. We don't eat a ton of fried food, so all these "typical" British fares were not our jam - but perhaps they were also just catering to what they thought tourists wanted.
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Post by gar on Apr 18, 2023 18:31:08 GMT
So? Apparently he loves quiche and had a hand in the recipe 🤷🏻♀️but why the need to be so rude? Not intending to be rude. British CuisineCan’t read the article without subscribing but hey, there’s many a top uk chef or restaurant that would disagree 😊
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 18, 2023 18:33:03 GMT
More proof British cuisine is terrible. This is all a bit rich from a country that serves spray cheese, velveeta, grits, jello salads, biscuits and gravy and casseroles made with 'cream of...anything. That you're combining biscuits and gravy with spray cheese tells me you've never actually had them - they're DELICIOUS and it's a biscuit and gravy, seriously why would you have an issue? And seriously the US is a big place, I managed my entire life with never having any casserole with cream of anything - it's a midwestern thing, so 90% of Americans have no idea what you're talking about same as jello salads and spray/velveeta cheese. I hear grits are good- but I'll leave southerns to opine on your classifying them with velveeta
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Post by huskergal on Apr 18, 2023 18:33:10 GMT
Can’t read the article without subscribing but hey, there’s many a top uk chef or restaurant that would disagree 😊 They probably wouldn't put beans in quiche.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 18, 2023 18:35:49 GMT
So one dodgy sounding quiche means an entire countries food is terrible, cool story bro. What do you think is the best British cuisine? No snark - I've been to London a handful of times - and really the cuisine isn't what's memorable to me, so if I'm ordering wrong I'd love to know.
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Post by gar on Apr 18, 2023 18:36:44 GMT
Ok have it your way. You’re right and all of us mostly live on slops.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 18, 2023 18:42:57 GMT
Ok have it your way. You’re right and all of us mostly live on slops. Why exactly don't you answer the question? Honestly? so this article says all the delights of British cuisine from a UKer: fullsuitcase.com/british-food/Umm - it's not so awesome. So if you all are hiding your wonderful cuisine, I'm all ears as I have to go to London next month. I think fish and chips are fine, but not something I'm interesting in for a whole week, but right there with a chicken tender children's meal in the US. I'll be hitting up the curry shops as they're awesome and not something I have access to at home, but am all ears for a traditional British spot I should go to.
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Post by gar on Apr 18, 2023 18:47:49 GMT
This is all a bit rich from a country that serves spray cheese, velveeta, grits, jello salads, biscuits and gravy and casseroles made with 'cream of...anything. That you're combining biscuits and gravy with spray cheese tells me you've never actually had them - they're DELICIOUS and it's a biscuit and gravy, seriously why would you have an issue? And seriously the US is a big place, I managed my entire life with never having any casserole with cream of anything - it's a midwestern thing, so 90% of Americans have no idea what you're talking about same as jello salads and spray/velveeta cheese. I hear grits are good- but I'll leave southerns to opine on your classifying them with velveeta Oh good lord. British food was being slagged off in it's entirety, I was just replying in kind. It was just a list.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 18, 2023 18:49:55 GMT
That you're combining biscuits and gravy with spray cheese tells me you've never actually had them - they're DELICIOUS and it's a biscuit and gravy, seriously why would you have an issue? And seriously the US is a big place, I managed my entire life with never having any casserole with cream of anything - it's a midwestern thing, so 90% of Americans have no idea what you're talking about same as jello salads and spray/velveeta cheese. I hear grits are good- but I'll leave southerns to opine on your classifying them with velveeta Oh good lord. British food was being slagged off in it's entirety, I was just replying in kind. It was just a list. Again - I'm going to London next week - what would you recommend? I've had fish and chips, will not eat any organ meat period and think shepherd's pie is gross - legitimately what restaurant would you recommend to enjoy British cuisine?
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Post by gar on Apr 18, 2023 18:52:42 GMT
Ok have it your way. You’re right and all of us mostly live on slops. Why exactly don't you answer the question? Honestly? so this article says all the delights of British cuisine from a UKer: fullsuitcase.com/british-food/Umm - it's not so awesome. So if you all are hiding your wonderful cuisine, I'm all ears as I have to go to London next month. I think fish and chips are fine, but not something I'm interesting in for a whole week, but right there with a chicken tender children's meal in the US. I'll be hitting up the curry shops as they're awesome and not something I have access to at home, but am all ears for a traditional British spot I should go to. What do you mean it's not so awesome? I LOVE shepherds pie, bangers and mash, Cornish pasties, toad in the Hole etc. You don't? Ok, that's just a difference of opinion, of tastes.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Apr 18, 2023 18:53:49 GMT
I think beans in quiche sounds unappealing. I don't like broad/fava beans though. Replacing with asparagus or just leaving it spinach sounds good though. It looks like it tastes good. Curry meals were my favorite in London. I am trying to remember what I ate in England; we actually went out for ribs because we landed in London on US Thanksgiving (the first time we went) and we were visiting our ex-pat friends and THEY wanted to eat something American for Thanksgiving LOL--supposedly they were the best ribs in London (they were pretty good). I don't think the food was as memorable because we did eat a lot at our friend's loft. I have more memories of other countries, but that might be because we ate all our meals out. I thought the food was fine/good though and loved the curry. Oh, LOL I just remembered the second time we went, we went to Nobu for my birthday...so I guess we ate expensive sushi in London too.
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Post by supersoda on Apr 18, 2023 18:59:42 GMT
More proof British cuisine is terrible. This is all a bit rich from a country that serves spray cheese, velveeta, grits, jello salads, biscuits and gravy and casseroles made with 'cream of...anything. Lol—that’s funny. But you really need to have had true Southern biscuits and gravy and grits before you make a call on those. They can both be very very good or very very bad. I’m not so big on the English breakfast options, but I do love the savory pies and puddings!
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Post by gillyp on Apr 18, 2023 19:01:21 GMT
Ok have it your way. You’re right and all of us mostly live on slops. Why exactly don't you answer the question? Honestly? so this article says all the delights of British cuisine from a UKer: fullsuitcase.com/british-food/Umm - it's not so awesome. So if you all are hiding your wonderful cuisine, I'm all ears as I have to go to London next month. I think fish and chips are fine, but not something I'm interesting in for a whole week, but right there with a chicken tender children's meal in the US. I'll be hitting up the curry shops as they're awesome and not something I have access to at home, but am all ears for a traditional British spot I should go to. Bloomin’ ‘eck Darcy Collins, you hate our Royals, you hate our establishment, you hate our food, why on earth do you bother coming and lining the pockets of those you hold in contempt? Dare I suggest that the UK is so diverse there really isn’t a typical British restaurant “chain”. Just the same as there isn’t a typical American one. If there is then all you eat is hamburgers and fries or hot dogs and popcorn, washed down with gallons of Coca Cola. See? It’s ridiculous to suggest that. There is nothing wrong with the food on the link you gave but no way is it fine dining. It’s the sort of food we serve at home. Basic, nothing out of the ordinary, bog standard day to day food (with the exception of jellied eels and pie and liquor which are acquired local tastes.). If you want fine British Dining find yourself a decent restaurant, don’t hang around the pubs and cafes in the tourist spots.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 18, 2023 19:05:16 GMT
Why exactly don't you answer the question? Honestly? so this article says all the delights of British cuisine from a UKer: fullsuitcase.com/british-food/Umm - it's not so awesome. So if you all are hiding your wonderful cuisine, I'm all ears as I have to go to London next month. I think fish and chips are fine, but not something I'm interesting in for a whole week, but right there with a chicken tender children's meal in the US. I'll be hitting up the curry shops as they're awesome and not something I have access to at home, but am all ears for a traditional British spot I should go to. What do you mean it's not so awesome? I LOVE shepherds pie, bangers and mash, Cornish pasties, toad in the Hole etc. You don't? Ok, that's just a difference of opinion, of tastes. True enough. I'll just gently point out that none of those foods have transcended your borders - perhaps because the majority of folks have opinions more similar to the rest of food eaters. This is not an area of strength for the British - and I was honestly not being snarky when I asked if I was missing something. I'm pretty sure we have more Italian restaurants than you'll find in Italy- Mexican, Indian, Chinese, Greek, Thai, - ah hell I'm getting hungry - all places with seriously amazing food. Some places just have awesome food. Some don't - I also was pretty bored with Germany after a few days - there's only so much schnitzel I want to eat.
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Post by gillyp on Apr 18, 2023 19:07:10 GMT
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 18, 2023 19:09:56 GMT
Why exactly don't you answer the question? Honestly? so this article says all the delights of British cuisine from a UKer: fullsuitcase.com/british-food/Umm - it's not so awesome. So if you all are hiding your wonderful cuisine, I'm all ears as I have to go to London next month. I think fish and chips are fine, but not something I'm interesting in for a whole week, but right there with a chicken tender children's meal in the US. I'll be hitting up the curry shops as they're awesome and not something I have access to at home, but am all ears for a traditional British spot I should go to. Bloomin’ ‘eck Darcy Collins , you hate our Royals, you hate our establishment, you hate our food, why on earth do you bother coming and lining the pockets of those you hold in contempt? Dare I suggest that the UK is so diverse there really isn’t a typical British restaurant “chain”. Just the same as there isn’t a typical American one. If there is then all you eat is hamburgers and fries or hot dogs and popcorn, washed down with gallons of Coca Cola. See? It’s ridiculous to suggest that. There is nothing wrong with the food on the link you gave but no way is it fine dining. It’s the sort of food we serve at home. Basic, nothing out of the ordinary, bog standard day to day food (with the exception of jellied eels and pie and liquor which are acquired local tastes.). If you want fine British Dining find yourself a decent restaurant, don’t hang around the pubs and cafes in the tourist spots. I've never suggested that I hate your establishment? The royals are not establishment. One of your banks have given me a very generous salary for a very long time. I asked a legitimate question on if I'd been missing something on the food front - as someone's post amused me. Sorry that you didn't actually have a response. I've had many a fine meal in London - none of them were British in nature.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 18, 2023 19:11:05 GMT
If I have time next month, I'll let you know gillyp - it'd be fun to meet you!
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Post by mellyw on Apr 18, 2023 19:21:51 GMT
Why exactly don't you answer the question? Honestly? so this article says all the delights of British cuisine from a UKer: fullsuitcase.com/british-food/Umm - it's not so awesome. So if you all are hiding your wonderful cuisine, I'm all ears as I have to go to London next month. I think fish and chips are fine, but not something I'm interesting in for a whole week, but right there with a chicken tender children's meal in the US. I'll be hitting up the curry shops as they're awesome and not something I have access to at home, but am all ears for a traditional British spot I should go to. What do you mean it's not so awesome? I LOVE shepherds pie, bangers and mash, Cornish pasties, toad in the Hole etc. You don't? Ok, that's just a difference of opinion, of tastes. If you can’t find good food in England, you’re definitely looking in the wrong places. A plate of bangers and mash is heavenly! A bacon butty fresh made while browsing the fruits and vegetables on Market Day? Fantastic stuff right there. If I ever make it to England again, I’ll eat my weight in Fish and Chips for at least a week straight. Every country has some weird food. Who would have guessed that crispy grasshoppers seasoned nice and spicy in Thailand would have me craving them years later? But I would encourage anyone to try biscuits and gravy before disparaging it. May sound unappetizing, but it is so, so good
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 18, 2023 19:24:59 GMT
And seriously - I've spent a not insignificant time in the UK and I actually find it extremely similar to the US in that it has embraced food from all over - It's a bit different as a lot of the food I make was in the US well before it was ever "American" so we come by our hodge podge differently. But seriously laugh off the mushy peas like we laugh off the hot dogs - I haven't had one in literally 20 years so it makes me laugh when one calls in quintessential American.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Apr 18, 2023 19:25:54 GMT
Yum, I see a few things I would love to try on that menu. Almost all American food is imported/adapted in some way from various cultures---some of it fine tuned and perfected, but unless we are talking Native American food like Owamni in Minnesota, where I live, it isn't "American." I think both England and the U.S have many fantastic options
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Post by RosieKat on Apr 18, 2023 19:27:08 GMT
Thus perpetuating the stereotype of rubbish English cuisine. God save the King. Are they ruining a quiche just to screw with the French? OK, this made me LOL and I'm currently taking a break from working at a table in the library, you jerk! When I was in England, I had some great food and some awful food. Probably pretty much like my random experience would be if I came to the US as a visitor. I don't think it deserves the stereotype of awful food just like I don't think the US deserves the spray cheese and deep fried butter stereotype. You can find the stereotyped food in both places, but you can find plenty of wonderful food, too. I am, however, on the "broad beans don't belong in quiche" bus. I've not actually eaten those specifically, but I've eaten lima beans and soya beans and am guessing the broad beans are somewhere in between the two. Considering the fact that both of them sound dreadful in a quiche, it's a no from me. Spinach is fine. I agree, it is probably a cost thing - putting out a quiche recipe calling for lobster and cream and some sort of expensive, out-of-season veggie would definitely not be a smart thing right now.
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Post by auntiepeas on Apr 18, 2023 19:33:37 GMT
I didn’t know they were also called Fava beans. Apparently they’ve been around since Neolithic times - and probably haven’t evolved to taste any better. I also didn’t know they were meant to be skinned before eating, not just podded but their own personal little sheaths removed. Really?? Maybe that’s why I don’t particularly like them. I shall buy some with my next groceries and see if I can change my mind about them. There are some nice looking recipes here. www.olivemagazine.com/recipes/collection/best-ever-broad-bean-recipes/ I will still pass on the Coronation Quiche though. Apparently they're good with the liver of a census taker and a nice Chianti. 🤫😂
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Post by tanya2 on Apr 18, 2023 19:33:41 GMT
not a fan of quiche in general, but the addition of broad beans is definitely interesting
I'm heading to the UK next month for a few weeks to visit my dd, who moved there last year. She has never mentioned anything to me about not liking the food there! Guess I'll get to find out for myself, but I'm open to trying new stuff. I will definitely be avoiding anything with organ meat in it though LOL
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Post by lizacreates on Apr 18, 2023 19:40:10 GMT
I didn’t know they were also called Fava beans. Apparently they’ve been around since Neolithic times - and probably haven’t evolved to taste any better. I also didn’t know they were meant to be skinned before eating, not just podded but their own personal little sheaths removed. Really?? Maybe that’s why I don’t particularly like them. I shall buy some with my next groceries and see if I can change my mind about them. There are some nice looking recipes here. www.olivemagazine.com/recipes/collection/best-ever-broad-bean-recipes/ I will still pass on the Coronation Quiche though. Apparently they're good with the liver of a census taker and a nice Chianti. 🤫😂 ROFL! IMO, THE BEST line in that film.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 18, 2023 19:41:13 GMT
Yum, I see a few things I would love to try on that menu. Almost all American food is imported/adapted in some way from various cultures---some of it fine tuned and perfected, but unless we are talking Native American food like Owamni in Minnesota, where I live, it isn't "American." I think both England and the U.S have many fantastic options That's the beauty of America - my family was in New Mexico when it was still under Spanish rule in the 1700s. My "American" enchiladas and fajitas were here way before any of this spray cheese stuff!
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Post by gillyp on Apr 18, 2023 19:47:33 GMT
[quote author=" mellyw" source="/post/3918205/thread" timestamp="1681845711“ But I would encourage anyone to try biscuits and gravy before disparaging it. May sound unappetizing, but it is so, so good [/quote] It sounds awful to us because your biscuits are pretty much our scones which we serve with jam and cream and a cup of tea. To pour a savoury white gravy over them sounds not very nice. Having said that, I do make a stew with a cobbler topping which I suspect is similar and much loved by DH. We tried grits in Cedar Key, FL a while ago. The waitress said “grits are from the south, if you’re from the north, you won’t like em”. Well DH liked them and would have them again. I thought they were bland and not very appealing but if they were all that was available, I’d eat them.
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Post by The Great Carpezio on Apr 18, 2023 20:01:57 GMT
[quote author=" mellyw " source="/post/3918205/thread" timestamp="1681845711“ But I would encourage anyone to try biscuits and gravy before disparaging it. May sound unappetizing, but it is so, so good It sounds awful to us because your biscuits are pretty much our scones which we serve with jam and cream and a cup of tea. To pour a savoury white gravy over them sounds not very nice. Having said that, I do make a stew with a cobbler topping which I suspect is similar and much loved by DH. We tried grits in Cedar Key, FL a while ago. The waitress said “grits are from the south, if you’re from the north, you won’t like em”. Well DH liked them and would have them again. I thought they were bland and not very appealing but if they were all that was available, I’d eat them. [/quote] LOL, now I am going down a rabbit hole on this. So, biscuits and gravy, shepherds pie, "hot dish" (Minnesotan for casseroles in general) ---all have a similar vibe to me. They can all be bland/bad texture and they can all be tasty and enjoyable....but I want to eat about 1/3 of whatever portion I get of them.... I don't care for a plate of stuff that is all the same---boring and I get sick of it quickly. Give me a 1/3 portion or less with a salad and something else, and I can like all of those options. I make bangers or kielbasa with mash/colcannon often--doesn't have the same "plate of something mushy and rich" vibe. IDK, I am weird. LOL As far as biscuits and scones....to me, they are vaguely similar, but a good scone is denser and more moist than a good biscuit that is fluffier and dryer. (I do think scones in the US tend to be sweeter and often have fruit in them.)
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Post by Darcy Collins on Apr 18, 2023 20:01:59 GMT
[quote author=" mellyw " source="/post/3918205/thread" timestamp="1681845711“ But I would encourage anyone to try biscuits and gravy before disparaging it. May sound unappetizing, but it is so, so good The quote is mucked up sorry! I LOVE scones- love them - my husband calls them the silver lining of covid as I started making regularly when I had to feed my dough. They are not biscuits - and saying this as someone who appreciates the absolute beauty of a scone with raspberry jam at 3 pm! Don't think of them as the same and you can appreciate the beauty of biscuits and sausage gravy - and this is coming from someone who never had them before marrying into a midwestern family. And full disclosure I punted on the grits earlier as I truly don't get them - I have no doubt a southerner will support them- to me it's kinda blander oatmeal, and I'm not really an oatmeal fan.
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