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Post by lucyg on May 2, 2023 1:21:36 GMT
lucyg will be stuck with the 'we are doomed' comment forever!!  I can live with that! |
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tincin
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Post by tincin on May 2, 2023 1:51:03 GMT
I don't think regular church attendance is a qualification for being a Christian. Using a bible as a prop after ordering peaceful protestors violently removed to clear the way for your photo op might be. Based on things in addition to church attendance, I think most people would agree that both Biden and Obama are spiritual (except for birthers who falsely believe Obama is a Muslim) Obama has written extensively about his spiritual awakening as an adult. Speaking publicly, he was more reserved or quiet about his spirituality but he read a devotion every morning before starting his day when he was president. Both Obama and Biden demonstrate their faith and spirituality in different ways. The same cannot be said of Trump. Just for comparison, here are Obama's words apnews.com/article/joseph-lowery-spirituality-prayer-joel-hunter-archive-0b5e5e224b854d2d9eb43bb32c4f38d3“This office tends to make a person pray more,” Obama said last year in an interview with Cathedral Age magazine. “And as President Lincoln once said, ‘I have been driven to my knees many times by the overwhelming conviction that I had no place else to go.’”
And Trump's actions and words www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/02/14/trump-mocks-faith-others-his-own-religious-practices-remain-opaque/Trump — who recently mocked the expressions of faith of two devout politicians, the Catholic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the Latter-day Saint Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) — very rarely puts his own religious beliefs on display.
The president says the Bible is his favorite book but has declined to name a verse that is particularly meaningful to him. And he has said multiple times that he does not like to ask God for forgiveness, which is traditionally seen as a core part of the Christian faith.Actually he says he doesn't need to ask for forgiveness, because he does nothing wrong.... |
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Post by Scrapper100 on May 2, 2023 2:20:24 GMT
Trump is not being persecuted. If he never ran for president, all of his shady dealings would've just kept sliding under the radar. Instead, he put a big fucking spotlight on himself and refused to release stuff which caught the attention of law enforcement. If he hadn’t ran for President on the ‘lock her up’ ticket, his money and his ‘fixer’ would have kept ‘fixing’ his issues and he wouldn’t be in court. Not that it’s right, but we do tend to have 2 Justice systems. One for the rich & one for the rest of us A neighbor to the back of me just put up a Trump 2024 Save America Again flag. Anyone still on the Trump train has lost all my respect. I had little respect prior to 2020 with Trumpers, but I tried to give people the benefit of doubt that they hadn’t known he was a slimy scumbag, grifter. But I have zero respect for anyone still supporting him after 1/6. Anyone supporting him after 1/6 is supporting the overthrow of the freely elected government of this country and is a traitor to the nation and doesn’t deserve respect. You want to continue to be a conservative, fine, but find someone who hasn’t already tried a coup. Preferably one that’s not also a fascist like DeSatan. lucyg is right we are still doomed. Exactly. Not all conservatives are Trump fans nor do they believe the same as he does. Unfortunately the front runners right now appear to be very similar and not at all what it was just a few decades ago. |
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Post by birukitty on May 2, 2023 21:07:36 GMT
I truly believe he's the like the second coming of Hitler and Fox News is another version of Goebbels propaganda campaign. Instead of targeting the Jews they are targeting LGBTQ, women, blacks, immigrants, Asian Americans and others. Fox News is brainwashing what were average Americans in their homes just like Goebbels propaganda campaign did to average Germans. I truly believe this. Trump is held up on a pedestal just like Hitler was back then. I see all of it happening all over again. The book banning, the overturn of Roe vs. Wade taking away women's right to choose-it's our version today of what happened in Germany in the 30's. My parents are very well educated and intelligent. To my shock they started watching Fox News several years ago and believe the lies that this channel spews. They aren't Trumpers (thank God) but my father is still a Republican (always has been-he still believes in the Republican party of 2 decades ago) and since my mother has retained her German citizenship she can't vote anyway. They are both 83. My mother was born in Germany in 1939. I've told her what I see and believe and she just shakes her head thinking I'm crazy. I see things very similarly and share in your frustration. I have a hard time with the fact that so many are so snowed by the BS… How a huge chunk of the country has been brainwashed into believing that “WOKEness” (which, in MY eyes/beliefs is the practice of extending acceptance and empathy to ALL people, leaving judgment to The One who is the only true judge - YMMV, of course!) is a Big Sin (or a co-signing of sins) just blows my mind. The way I see it is that being woke is following the example of Jesus. Are many believers simply ignoring what they, themselves believe to be their own God-given discernment? I just see false prophets everywhere…(say that in an “I see dead people” whisper! 😂) I’m probably on a bloviating roll today, but I’m at my limit again. It’s just so heartbreaking. I am still praying fervently that a lot of good, intelligent folks will open their eyes and see that their anger, fear and hatred is incredibly misplaced. So many people are suffering as a result of the mind-fuck assault that is being perpetuated by the right wing propaganda machine (and co-conspirators in positions of power). It’s been going on for years, but the intensity has been cranked up exponentially since Don The Con hit the political scene. It is only going to increase from here on out. They’re going balls-to-the-wall and there’s no bottom to how low that machine will sink. I agree with you 100%. |
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Post by hop2 on May 2, 2023 21:19:45 GMT
lucyg will be stuck with the 'we are doomed' comment forever!! but she is right. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 2, 2023 21:22:17 GMT
lucyg will be stuck with the 'we are doomed' comment forever!! but she is right. Yes she is !!!! |
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Post by onelasttime on May 3, 2023 15:09:41 GMT
To those that say he is saving babies what about him paying for abortions in the past? Or does that not matter anymore. The fact that he isn’t really a Christian and doesn’t go to church? It would matter if you had proof but there is none. Are you saying if you don’t go to church you’re not a Christian? I’ve no doubt there’s quite a few people on this board that consider themselves Christians but don’t attend church on a regular basis. Obama rarely attended church while in the White House but he considers himself a Christian. I thought of this comment of yours when I saw these tweets. trump is no more religious than my long departed cat Fred. What he is though is a con artist and he finds things he can use to get what he wants. In this case votes. So he claims he has all these Christian values when in fact he has none. And it costs him very little to do it. |
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I can live with that!
