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Post by NicL on Jul 4, 2014 9:51:04 GMT
Poor boy. He had what we thought was a UTI. After 2 courses of treatment a follow up sample showed there were still red blood cells present. He went to the vet today to have a sterile sample taken (needle through to the bladdervhxc09 ) for testing as the vet thought it was an infection. Vet couldn't get much urine so took an x-ray. It shows he has stones in his bladder. They could dissolve with diet changes etc, but he's not a happy cat and vet thinks it best if we get them out and have them tested. They will also swab bladder wall as it is thickened. My poor boy! Has anyone else experienced this with their cat? This is Leo.
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M in Carolina
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Post by M in Carolina on Jul 4, 2014 10:02:04 GMT
I haven't had experience with that, but I'm sorry you're having to go through this with your cat. I'm so glad that you can afford this surgery. I had friends who were seminary students and couldn't afford that for their cat. They were heartbroken. The vet wouldn't give them payments or anything. Dh and I were so upset with them. None of us had the money, we were all newlyweds and broke.
I know mine hate the vet and take a while to get over the whole ordeal. I actually just bought this bag of crystals that you pour over the litter that works as a PH test to see if your cat's urine is normal. I thought that this $7 test would give me an idea of my old girl's health without subjecting her to the vet. I can afford to take her, but she does so poorly from the stress and takes weeks to get over it that the trauma puts such a toll on her. She's not sick right now--I just have the suspicion that something's a bit off. Cats are so hard to figure out because they won't act sick until they are bad.
I got the test at Petsmart. It's new. I thought I'd mention it because I have a bladder disease and have to have these tests often. My bladder disease is very common in cats, it's called interstitial cystitis. Sometimes infection can get into the kidneys as well and cause stones. So if the vet sees anything in the bladder, he might want you to check your cat's urine some more--and that's impossible with a cup.
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Post by NicL on Jul 4, 2014 11:27:17 GMT
M your poor friends, that's an awful situation to be in.
Getting either of my cats to the vet is a covert operation. I have to be very careful when I bring the cat carrier inside the house. If they hear it getting bumped they know immediately what is up and scurry off. I have to keep them secluded in the hallway with all doors closed.
Thanks for the info about the PH test. It might come in handy, I will keep it in mind. Hope your cat is OK and your suspicion turns out to be nothing
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Post by momto4kiddos on Jul 4, 2014 12:08:07 GMT
I'm not sure if stones and crystals are the same thing? Mine had a few bouts with "crystals" as the vet called them. It may be the same since you mentioned diet. The crystals ours had were diet related...male cats tend to have the problem.
It was all a very long time ago so I don't remember the specifics. He was hospitalized a few days and catheterized (don't remember if it was the whole time.) The crystals were causing him to be blocked so they needed to catheterized to empty his bladder. He was sent home after a few days with instructions for a diet change. Of course it quickly happened again and he spent the weekend hospitalized again! But that was the end of it for us.
The diet change did the trick (the 2nd incident he'd barely begun the diet.) He now eats specialized food from the vet and has for probably 8 or so years. The food is expensive, but so worth it - like I said he hasn't had an issue since.
Hope Leo is feeling better soon! By the way oddly enough our cat is an orange tabby too (his name is Lou!)
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Post by transprntbutterfly on Jul 4, 2014 13:30:22 GMT
I am so sorry. I know how stressful it can be when one of our fur babies is not feeling hope. I hope the surgery goes well and both you and your cat are feeling less stress!
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Post by krazykatlady on Jul 4, 2014 14:15:03 GMT
Poor Leo. I hope he gets relief quickly. Best wishes for a speedy recovery sweet kitty
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Post by RosieKat on Jul 4, 2014 14:21:11 GMT
Yes, my previous cat had them. She was definitely in a lot of pain, poor baby. She had the surgery and it was very successful. They put her on a prescription food so they wouldn't form again, but she wouldn't eat it, stubborn thing. She lived several years after that, and never had to have the surgery or anything again, even without the special food, and her eventual death had nothing to do with this problem.
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Post by mimima on Jul 4, 2014 14:29:30 GMT
We had a cat who went through this - years ago. He had a special diet However, I wanted to mention that with our new cat, the new theory is to feed wet cat food along with the dry to offer the moisture to the cat. Maybe ask your vet?
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Post by meeko77 on Jul 4, 2014 14:45:28 GMT
One of mine had them and had the surgery 5 years ago. She has done very well since. I do worry though that they will come back.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 4, 2014 15:13:49 GMT
Yea, we have had 2 male cats that have had this problem after getting fixed. UGH. Painful for the cat, and painful in the wallet, and emotions for owner. Just a tip, get the special food from Amazon. It's cheaper vs the Vet. We ordered a big bag online.
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Post by scrapngranny on Jul 4, 2014 15:52:05 GMT
My cat had bladder stones several years ago. He had the surgery and came through just fine. I did have to change his food to the CD Urinary Diet. Hope your sweetie has a smooth recovery and is back to normal soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 15:57:22 GMT
I am sorry for your kitty. What a sad thing for someone so dignified to have to go through. poor darling. (I am sorry for you too as you have to pay for it...)
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Post by gmcwife1 on Jul 4, 2014 16:28:05 GMT
Hoping that the surgery is going well and your cat feels better soon.
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Post by fastmommie on Jul 4, 2014 16:40:39 GMT
Our first cat had these stones/crystals and had the surgery to remove them. He was then placed on the special CD diet food and lived without any problems for many more years. It is always traumatic for them and us when a loved pet has health problems, prayers for quick healing!
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Post by BeckyTech on Jul 4, 2014 20:01:20 GMT
Not a cat, but my dog. We also thought it was an infection at first. They told us that once they get bladder stones that they are almost guaranteed to return. At her first 3- and 6-month checkup, they did show crystals, HOWEVER, at the vet's suggestion I changed the way I fed her: I put a lot of water in the wet food to make sure she got enough water. Never showed crystals again.
Of course I'm sure that would be more difficult to do with a finnicky cat...
Good thoughts going your way!
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Post by Zee on Jul 4, 2014 20:10:48 GMT
I'm sorry for kitty! I have had a cat with urinary issues, but thankfully he recovered without needing surgery. The single best thing you can do for your cats is to feed them wet food exclusively. Dry prescription food isn't nearly as good for them, it's just more convenient for us.
I grew up thinking dry food was better for their teeth--not true, and it has way too many carbs for cats and they often don't drink enough water to really make up for what they're not getting in dry food.
Sometimes it can't be avoided, like if you're going to leave for a couple days, but I pretty much never give my cats dry food any more. Some cats will be fine on it all their lives, but a LOT of older cats are diagnosed with kidney failure and diabetes and newer veterinary thinking is that a lot of it is diet-related.
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Post by Zee on Jul 4, 2014 20:12:45 GMT
PS my post was not aimed directly at you, OP. I don't know what your cat eats and I hope you don't think I was lecturing you. I was just passing on some info I've learned in the last couple years dealing with my aging cats' health.
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Post by hosschick on Jul 4, 2014 20:43:13 GMT
Aw, Leo looks like a sweetheart! I hope he's feeling better soon.
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Post by BeckyTech on Jul 4, 2014 21:24:25 GMT
I'm sorry for kitty! I have had a cat with urinary issues, but thankfully he recovered without needing surgery. The single best thing you can do for your cats is to feed them wet food exclusively. Dry prescription food isn't nearly as good for them, it's just more convenient for us. I grew up thinking dry food was better for their teeth--not true, and it has way too many carbs for cats and they often don't drink enough water to really make up for what they're not getting in dry food. Sometimes it can't be avoided, like if you're going to leave for a couple days, but I pretty much never give my cats dry food any more. Some cats will be fine on it all their lives, but a LOT of older cats are diagnosed with kidney failure and diabetes and newer veterinary thinking is that a lot of it is diet-related. Not the OP but it didn't come across as a lecture (to me) because I've BTDT as well. I had to give my cat subcutaneous fluids every day in the last two or three years of his life due to kidney issues. You're right, it's very common in older cats.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 21:41:04 GMT
My cat didn't have kidney issues, but did require surgery when she ate 3 ft of yarn that she tore from a "school" Christmas decoration one of the kids made. She was so unhappy at the vets office that they allowed me to bring her home early to recover. I had to learn how to "tube feed" her.
I hope the surgery and recovery goes well for your feline friend.
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Post by Mary_K on Jul 4, 2014 21:52:10 GMT
My cat many years ago had a stone the size of a half dollar. Poor thing it took up most of her bladder.
She had to have surgery and after that she was on a prescription cat food for the rest of her life.
She was an ornery cuss, too!
Mary K
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Post by NicL on Jul 4, 2014 22:31:37 GMT
Thank you for all of your replies. The problem is more common than I thought. Happy to hear all your stories which all worked out well.
I know it has to be related to his diet. I have 2 cats - the other prefers wet food so every day there is a different variety of wet food available to him and he just will not touch it. I have tried many of the better brands of wet food and fresh meat (chicken, beef and kangaroo mince which my other cat loved). I am going to have to get tough with him and put wet food in the place he used to eat the dry and every time he howls at me and tries to trip me up to feed him his dry food, I will have to put him in front of the new wet food until he gets the message.
Z*G your post did not come across as a lecture, we're good.
Interestingly the vet said that sometimes the cat food company's will pay for the testing of the crystals/stones.
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Post by cahwoo on Jul 4, 2014 22:37:31 GMT
I had a cat that had bladder stone surgery. She did just fine and the vet gave my son the stones in a little bag. LOL yuck
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Post by DaisyDoodles on Jul 4, 2014 23:26:56 GMT
One of my cats had chronic cystitis but never got to the point of surgery. The vet put him on Cosequin (sp?) daily and that helped greatly. It is an arthritis medication but the ingredients help with the crystals. He was around 8 yrs old when we started that and he lived to be 17. We also had to change his diet and used the dry Wellness with cranberries and mixed with wet food and it never flared up again. He wouldn't eat the prescription diet food :/
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Post by sweetre on Jul 4, 2014 23:36:37 GMT
No experience with this but I hope Your sweet little Leo is feeling better soon! Fur baby health issues are always so stressful, hopefully it will be a quick recovery!
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Jul 5, 2014 2:05:50 GMT
It happened to my brother's cat. After surgery, he was fine. He recovered quickly, too.
(((hugs))) to you & your cat.
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Post by wiipii2 on Jul 5, 2014 2:14:50 GMT
Hope your Leo recovers easily.
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Post by NicL on Jul 5, 2014 8:03:31 GMT
Thank you for all your replies. I'm just back from the Vet. The surgery went well. The stones were very small. When the surgeon went to put a catheter in he found it to be blocked by one of the stones. It took them 20 minutes to get it out. Ouch! Of course he was under for all of this but one would think that first wee is going to sting. He has to stay in for 2 nights and we all miss him terribly but whatever is best for him and his chance at recovery. Cone of shame at the Vet vhxc09. How do I get these photos bigger? I have read the instructions but this old broad can't work it out!
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Post by miominmio on Jul 5, 2014 9:18:00 GMT
Poor Leo! I hope he feels better soon. My cat had bladder stones a few weeks ago, luckily they got them out using a catheter, but kidney issues were discovered too. It's not always possible to make them eat wet food, mine will eat at a neighbour's if he doesn't get his preferred food. (Almost all cats are indoors/outdoors here, and a neighbour puts out food to her cats because she is away 12 hours a day. Of course, other cars know it's free food at her place).
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M in Carolina
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Post by M in Carolina on Jul 5, 2014 9:35:17 GMT
Also, don't give your cats milk or cream. It causes kidney stones.
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