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Post by hop2 on Aug 9, 2023 0:12:53 GMT
So let me get this straight. The Republicans call President Biden “Brandon” which has a nasty meaning. President Biden or some of his supporters came up with “Dark Brandon” as a response to the Republicans. Now trump and company are claiming a picture of President Biden drinking out of a “Dark Brandin” mug is a “thinly veiled” attempt to attack Trump for being arrested. This guy is right, you can’t make this stuff up…. Biden’s team took ownership of the ‘let’s go Brandon’ thing in a way that Christie wishes he could take ownership if his beach chair memes. It shows awareness of it and an it’s not going to stop me attitude. Yeah, I hear you, bring it on. Which ever person on Biden’s team came up with Dark Brandon is an advertising genius. It takes hold if a negative and makes it a positive. But I’m not sure how you get from ‘F Joe Biden’=Let’s go Brandon therefore Dark Brandon drinking coffee = a threat to Trump. That is beyond me that equation doesn’t match. I mean even if you can compute the equation to the point where dark Brandon = F Trump that’s still not a threat. Like ‘fuck you’ is not a threat. It’s rude, it’s not a well wish, but it’s not a threat.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 9, 2023 0:20:38 GMT
TFG has no issue selling F Biden tee shirts.. signs etc..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 9, 2023 1:01:39 GMT
Ohio referendum voted DOWN
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 9, 2023 3:09:47 GMT
If he left the country and promised to never come back I would have no problem if the charges were dropped.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 9, 2023 3:22:49 GMT
Bye... Don't let the door hit you on the way out!!
Hold the charges in case he thinks about coming back!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 9, 2023 3:41:31 GMT
TFG rants tonight on his truth social.... Not sure where he thinks he got full subpoena power from.... So now that I have full Subpoena Power because of the Freedom of Speech Sham Indictment by Crooked Joe Biden, Deranged Jack Smith, and the DOJ, it has just been reported that the Unselect January 6th Committee of Political Hacks and Thugs has illegally destroyed their Records and Documents," wrote Trump. "This is unthinkable, and the Fake Political Indictment against me must be immediately withdrawn." "The system is Rigged & Corrupt, very much like the Presidential Election of 2020. We are a Nation in Decline!" Trump added. Trump is referring to a Fox News report this week that House Republicans, led by Oversight subcommittee chair Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-GA), are alleging the now-disbanded January 6 Committee failed to fully preserve records of their investigation, in violation of congressional rules. In particular, they claim that Democrats on the committee disappeared files relating to Capitol security failures, so that they could shift blame for January 6 onto Trump. Former committee chair Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-MS) has pushed back on this accusation, saying that Loudermilk's report is full of "factual errors" and that the only documents that weren't maintained were temporary documents that didn't advance the committee's investigation, while 4 terabytes of the committee's relevant information were turned over. The former president has escalated his attacks on the legal process as the charges against him have advanced, in particular going after special counsel Jack Smith, whom he has called "deranged" and "crackhead"-like, and District Judge Tanya Chutkan, whom he has demanded be taken off the case. www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-unthinkable/
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 9, 2023 4:01:01 GMT
He lost.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 9, 2023 5:59:15 GMT
So let me get this straight. The Republicans call President Biden “Brandon” which has a nasty meaning. President Biden or some of his supporters came up with “Dark Brandon” as a response to the Republicans. Now trump and company are claiming a picture of President Biden drinking out of a “Dark Brandin” mug is a “thinly veiled” attempt to attack Trump for being arrested. This guy is right, you can’t make this stuff up…. Biden’s team took ownership of the ‘let’s go Brandon’ thing in a way that Christie wishes he could take ownership if his beach chair memes. It shows awareness of it and an it’s not going to stop me attitude. Yeah, I hear you, bring it on. Which ever person on Biden’s team came up with Dark Brandon is an advertising genius. It takes hold if a negative and makes it a positive. Yeah, genius. Dark Brandon, completely disguises the guy who can't walk across a stage, get off a stage, walk up a set of stairs or ride a bicycle without falling off of it - while standing still, mind you, Dark Brandon really sells THAT guy as some major badass. Genius. Just like Clark Kent's glasses.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 9, 2023 15:23:37 GMT
Welcome to TFG world of "it" and "sir". The one who never served a day and said he didn't understand why any one would!! Trump referred to the roughly 15,000 transgender service members honorably serving their country, as "it.""I'll also restore the Trump ban on transgender in the military – we're going to add that. You know, we had it banned. We had it banned," Trump declared, to cheers. You know, I went to the Generals, I said, 'General, off the record what do you think of transgender?'" "'Sir, is anybody listening sir?'" Trump claimed was the response, despite reports showing he never consulted with U.S. Military generals before announcing the ban on July 26, 2017 in a series of tweets. 'What do you think?'" he said he again had asked. "'I don't like it, sir.' And then I'd say to another one, 'You know, they're all afraid to talk about it, but you know, I had to do what's right. You have to do what's right."
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 9, 2023 15:32:27 GMT
Dianne Feinstein suffered a minor fall in her home yesterday. She was taken to the hospital. All tests were negative. She is recovering at home.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 9, 2023 16:31:03 GMT
What is wrong with these people?? They just can't tell the truth to save their souls ... Rep. James Comer (R-KY) insists he took part in a House Oversight Committee's closed-door interview of a key witness in the Hunter Biden investigation, but there's little evidence to back his claims. Comer, who leads the committee, did not identify himself in a transcript of the interview, nor does anyone else make mention of him taking part, and multiple sources familiar with the interview told The Daily Beast that if he did participate, he did so without their knowledge. "There’s just no way he f--king called in,” said one senior GOP source who said they never heard Comer identify himself for the record. “I’ve never even heard of someone doing that for a transcribed interview.”Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY), the only Democrat to attend, said the committee chairman, “was neither present nor on the phone for the Devon Archer interview," and a spokesperson for Comer declined to provide a call log or other phone record to prove he dialed in – but continued to insist he participated. “Throughout the transcribed interview, Chairman Comer was in constant communication with committee staff questioning Devon Archer and received updates critical to his investigation into the Biden family’s influence-peddling schemes,” the spokesperson said. Comer's fellow Republicans were annoyed he didn't take part in the questioning of Biden's business associate, and they're baffled that he continues to double down on claims that he did participate, the Beast reported. “I don’t get it,” said the senior GOP source. “Just take the loss and move on, you know?” www.rawstory.com/james-comer-devon-archer/
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Post by Gem Girl on Aug 9, 2023 18:07:57 GMT
If he left the country and promised to never come back I would have no problem if the charges were dropped. I don't believe anything he promises, oaths he takes, or vows he makes. He is without the honor required for any of them to mean anything. But, I'm all for his leaving forever!
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Post by Gem Girl on Aug 9, 2023 18:13:06 GMT
Welcome to TFG world of "it" and "sir". The one who never served a day and said he didn't understand why any one would!! Trump referred to the roughly 15,000 transgender service members honorably serving their country, as "it.""I'll also restore the Trump ban on transgender in the military – we're going to add that. You know, we had it banned. We had it banned," Trump declared, to cheers. You know, I went to the Generals, I said, 'General, off the record what do you think of transgender?'" "'Sir, is anybody listening sir?'" Trump claimed was the response, despite reports showing he never consulted with U.S. Military generals before announcing the ban on July 26, 2017 in a series of tweets. 'What do you think?'" he said he again had asked. "'I don't like it, sir.' And then I'd say to another one, 'You know, they're all afraid to talk about it, but you know, I had to do what's right. You have to do what's right."
People calling him "Sir" is one of his "tells," or indicators that he's making stuff up. People coming to him with "tears in his eyes" is another (especially, strong men, ha ha). Bet he doesn't play poker, because he'd get wiped out.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 9, 2023 18:57:38 GMT
What a stupid answer. Climate change is affecting more Americans across the country today than the situation at the border. Don’t get me wrong, we need to overhaul our immigration policy but think of what’s going on in Maui right now. And how people in the Northeast all but freaked out because of the smoke from those devastating fires in Canada.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 9, 2023 20:14:25 GMT
What is wrong with these people?? They just can't tell the truth to save their souls ... Rep. James Comer (R-KY) insists he took part in a House Oversight Committee's closed-door interview of a key witness in the Hunter Biden investigation, but there's little evidence to back his claims. Comer, who leads the committee, did not identify himself in a transcript of the interview, nor does anyone else make mention of him taking part, and multiple sources familiar with the interview told The Daily Beast that if he did participate, he did so without their knowledge. "There’s just no way he f--king called in,” said one senior GOP source who said they never heard Comer identify himself for the record. “I’ve never even heard of someone doing that for a transcribed interview.”Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY), the only Democrat to attend, said the committee chairman, “was neither present nor on the phone for the Devon Archer interview," and a spokesperson for Comer declined to provide a call log or other phone record to prove he dialed in – but continued to insist he participated. “Throughout the transcribed interview, Chairman Comer was in constant communication with committee staff questioning Devon Archer and received updates critical to his investigation into the Biden family’s influence-peddling schemes,” the spokesperson said. Comer's fellow Republicans were annoyed he didn't take part in the questioning of Biden's business associate, and they're baffled that he continues to double down on claims that he did participate, the Beast reported. “I don’t get it,” said the senior GOP source. “Just take the loss and move on, you know?” www.rawstory.com/james-comer-devon-archer/Good question. The Washington Post just gave Joe four Pinocchios for lying when he said Hunter never made money from China.
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Post by dawnnikol on Aug 9, 2023 20:36:56 GMT
Remember how all those guys were going to save the children from child trafficking after a movie told them "The Truth"? The call is coming from inside the house..
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 9, 2023 21:14:30 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 9, 2023 21:31:09 GMT
Warrant for Trump's twitter account www.nytimes.com/2023/08/09/us/politics/trump-twitter-account-search-warrant.htmlSpecial Counsel Obtained Search Warrant for Trump’s Twitter Account The warrant, obtained in January, is the first known example of prosecutors directly searching Donald J. Trump’s communications in the federal inquiry into the events of Jan. 6, 2021. Prosecutors working for Jack Smith, the special counsel who has twice brought indictments against former President Donald J. Trump, obtained a search warrant early this year for Mr. Trump’s long-dormant Twitter account as part of their inquiry into his attempt to overturn the 2020 election, according to court papers unsealed on Wednesday. The warrant, which was signed by a federal judge in Washington in January after Elon Musk took over Twitter, now called X, is the first known example of prosecutors directly searching Mr. Trump’s communications and adds a new dimension to the scope of the special counsel’s efforts to investigate the former president. B ut the papers indicate that prosecutors received permission from the judge not to tell Mr. Trump for months that they had obtained the warrant for his account. The prosecutors feared that if Mr. Trump learned about the warrant, it “would seriously jeopardize the ongoing investigation” by giving him “an opportunity to destroy evidence, change patterns of behavior [or] notify confederates,” the papers said.
The fact that prosecutors quietly obtained a judge’s permission more than seven months ago to peer into Mr. Trump’s Twitter account underscores how much of the special counsel’s work may have taken place out of public view. Much of the investigation into Mr. Trump’s efforts to maintain his grip on power and into his other federal case — the one related to his handling of classified materials — has been conducted in front of federal grand juries, which operate under strict rules of secrecy.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 9, 2023 21:31:36 GMT
And how much did Ivanka, who was working IN the WH, get from China and Jared get from MBS??
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 9, 2023 21:34:20 GMT
More on twitter www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/08/09/twitter-fine-jan-6-trump/ Twitter was fined $350,000 for failing to turn over Trump’s data
The social media company Twitter was forced to hand over records from former president Donald Trump’s account to the special counsel investigating the events leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack and pay sanctions for failing to do so more quickly, as disclosed in an appellate court ruling unsealed Wednesday.
A lower-court judge, Beryl A. Howell, ruled in March that Twitter, now renamed X, had to comply with a sealed search warrant issued by the special counsel and pay $350,000 for missing a court-ordered deadline by three days. The filing also reveals that Howell had found reason to believe that should the search warrant be made public, Trump might engage in obstructive conduct or flee prosecution
The appellate court also upheld Howell’s $350,000 sanction, saying it was reasonable “given Twitter’s $40-billion valuation and the court’s goal of coercing Twitter’s compliance.” .
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 9, 2023 21:38:58 GMT
Comer still has no proof of a bribe, but that doesn't stop him from making false allegations. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/09/comer-biden-analysis/So where’s the bribe, James Comer?
Analysis by Philip Bump National columnist August 9, 2023 at 12:50 p.m. EDT
Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.) on June 13 in Washington, D.C. (Ricky Carioti/The Washington Post)
It has now been more than three months since House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) and Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) issued a release in which they accused President Biden of having been “allegedly engaged in a bribery scheme with a foreign national.”
That allegation was based on an FBI interview of an informant who had spoken with Mykola Zlochevsky, founder of the Ukrainian energy company Burisma. If validated, it would mark not only a significant legal violation on the part of Biden, but the first time that Comer’s breathless efforts to tie Biden to foreign payments was actually demonstrated.
It was not validated. Comer and Grassley — who were already familiar with an FBI form detailing the contents of the interview — spent a few weeks demanding that the FBI release the interview to the public. The FBI, concerned both about putting the informant at risk and about making public unsubstantiated claims, decided to offer a redacted version of the memo for legislators to see. Comer and Grassley then started complaining about the redactions as they demanded more people be able to see the interview. Eventually, Grassley just went ahead and released a lightly redacted version on social media.
The idea that Biden (and his son Hunter Biden, who served on Burisma’s board) had been bribed took hold as an article of faith on the right. Fox News has mentioned “bribe” or “bribery” in the context of “Biden” more than 1,100 times since the allegation was first made — despite the lack of evidence beyond that FBI interview document and despite the erosion of the credibility of the allegation in at least two ways. Hunter Biden’s business associate Devon Archer testified under penalty of perjury that Joe Biden wasn’t involved in his son’s business. Meanwhile, an old conversation between Zlochevsky and an ally of former president Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani was unearthed in which Zlochevsky denied having any contact with or receiving any assistance from Joe Biden.
On Wednesday, Comer released a new assessment of payments made to Hunter Biden, Archer and others while Biden and Archer were in business together. In testimony given to the Oversight Committee last week, Archer explained that their work centered on raising money and making connections in Washington, D.C. — but that while Hunter Biden encouraged people to think that he was bringing his father’s clout into play, Joe Biden was not actually engaged in their work. The new articulation of the money that was paid to Biden and Archer reflects that; none of the $20 million that Comer claims went to “the Biden family and their business associates” — an intentionally loose description of the recipients — was shown to have gone to Joe Biden.
That’s unquestionably an ongoing challenge for Comer’s efforts to impugn President Biden with his son’s business activity. In the abstract, anyway; Comer’s ideological allies are eager to collapse Hunter Biden’s income (and even Archer’s) into a broader pool of “money to the Bidens” in which Joe Biden is somehow implicated. But the lack of payments made to the president is even more problematic for the Comer-Grassley claim about bribes. After three months, a period that clearly included more assessments of income received by Hunter Biden (though a lot of the $20 million was already reported), there’s not a whiff of the alleged $5 million paid to Joe Biden by Zlochevsky. It’s less than a phantom.
There’s no alleged bribe to Hunter Biden, either. The new report from Comer delineates regular payments to Hunter Biden and Archer in 2014 and 2015 totaling about $3.3 million. The document points at whistleblower testimony claiming that the pair earned $6.5 million from Burisma. That’s not $5 million for Hunter Biden — and it’s not obviously a “bribe.” The pair sat on the company’s board and, according to Archer’s testimony, did board-related work for Burisma, however obviously derived from Hunter Biden’s last name their work might have been.
Defenders of the Comer-Grassley allegation have often pointed to a comment buried in the initial FBI interview document. Speaking to the informant, Zlochevsky allegedly said he never paid money directly to Joe Biden and that it would take investigators “ten years” to disentangle and identify records of the payments. This has been highlighted to suggest that future digging might turn up such payments. And they might! But this might also have been part of what the informant identified as a tendency in the region for business executives to brag — as Zlochevsky may have been doing about his purported connections and savvy.
While Republicans and their media allies have often conflated the FBI’s confidence in the informant with reliability of the information the informant provided, the FBI report also indicates that the informant couldn’t attest to the veracity of what Zlochevsky said. What’s more, the claim was investigated by the FBI when it was first received in 2020, during the Trump administration. There does not appear to have been a separate investigation of the bribery claim or of Joe Biden’s role. An investigation of Hunter Biden resulted in tax and gun charges and, perhaps, nothing further.
The report from Comer published on Wednesday does mention bribery in remarkably vague terms.
“President Biden’s Family is the Vehicle to Receive Bribery Payments,” one section is titled. “President Biden’s defenders purport a weak defense by asserting the Committee must show payments directly to the President to show corruption,” it reads. “This is a hollow claim no other American would be afforded if their family members accepted foreign payments or bribes. Indeed, the law recognizes payments to family members to corruptly influence others can constitute a bribe.”
The reference to “the law” points to a document outlining the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA). It offers examples of family members receiving payments, gifts and jobs in exchange for having work steered to their benefactors. What Comer’s evidence shows, though, so far extends no further than Hunter Biden giving the impression that he might be able to influence his father. The other half of the FCPA equation cited by Comer is simply missing.
Speaking on Fox News last month, Comer and House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) implied that the alleged bribe was paid so that Biden, then vice president, would push for the firing of Ukraine’s prosecutor general. This has been debunked repeatedly, for nearly four years. The timeline presented on Fox didn’t match actual events, and Archer had testified that the eventual firing was understood to be detrimental to Burisma, not beneficial.
But it’s all Comer’s got. His team tried to dig up this bribe that they have convinced their allies exists, without luck. So he issues a news release about the “Biden family” and suggests that bribery claims don’t need actual proof and prepares for his next Sean Hannity interview.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 9, 2023 21:43:13 GMT
And how much did Ivanka, who was working IN the WH, get from China and Jared get from MBS?? You're comparing Ivanka selling shoes and Biden's crackhead son selling access to the the VP/president? You're comparing apples and bags of cocaine.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 9, 2023 21:46:32 GMT
Hunter has yet to deny he has an addiction. Ivanka and Jared used their positions to gain multimillions that are documented!!
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 9, 2023 21:48:32 GMT
Conservatives and their ongoing feud with US Women's soccer www.nytimes.com/2023/08/07/us/politics/trump-womens-soccer-megan-rapinoe.htmlWhen the United States lost to Sweden in the Women’s World Cup on Sunday, many American viewers saw it as a painful collapse on the grandest stage — the sort of agonizing moment that happens in sports. For former President Donald J. Trump, it was a sign of national decline. The loss was “fully emblematic of what is happening to the our once great Nation under Crooked Joe Biden,” Mr. Trump wrote on his social media platform. “Many of our players were openly hostile to America — No other country behaved in such a manner, or even close,” he added. “WOKE EQUALS FAILURE. Nice shot Megan, the USA is going to Hell!!! MAGA.” The taunt was an extension of a longstanding feud between Mr. Trump and Megan Rapinoe, the retiring soccer star who once refused to visit the Trump White House, and whose missed penalty kick contributed to the team’s loss. (After the game, Ms. Rapinoe summed up the miss as a sort of “sick joke.”) But it was also a striking example of the unforgiving moment in right-wing politics, when a former president will taunt an American team competing on the international stage and relish the agony of its defeat.President Biden congratulated the team on Twitter: “I’m looking forward to seeing how you continue to inspire Americans with your grit and determination — on and off the field.” “Your unwavering support means a lot to us,” the team said to its fans on Sunday. “Our goal remains the same, to win.” Criticism of the team was common in the online right-wing ecosystem even before its loss. Megyn Kelly, the podcast host, said that Ms. Rapinoe had “poisoned the entire team against the country for which they play” ahead of the game. The right-wing activist Brigitte Gabriel wrote late last month, “I love America and that’s why I am rooting against the woke U.S. Women’s National Soccer Team this year.” Richard Lapchick, the president of the Institute for Sport and Social Justice, drew a parallel between Mr. Trump’s attack on Ms. Rapinoe and his attacks in 2017 on N.F.L. players who, inspired by Colin Kaepernick, knelt for the national anthem to protest racial inequality and police brutality. After Mr. Trump’s criticism six years ago, “what was seemingly a dimming protest movement in the N.F.L. was suddenly reignited so that they had even owners and coaches” expressing support, Dr. Lapchick said. “I think that his doing this again this week will reinforce the base of athlete activism that I think has grown significantly stronger in the last couple of years,” he said. The conservative criticism has been focused on both Ms. Rapinoe’s political statements — including her support of gay and transgender rights, which Mr. Trump has attacked — and the women’s national team’s fight for pay equity. Mr. Trump and others disparage these stances as “woke,” the right’s catchall shorthand for progressive views on gender, race and other issues. A recent article in The Washington Examiner, a conservative publication, accused the women’s national soccer team of appearing “far more concerned pushing a woke agenda regarding equal pay for female athletes and the rights of L.G.B.T. Ms. Rapinoe has been a target of the right since at least 2019, when she refused to visit the White House after the United States won the last Women’s World Cup. Mr. Trump criticized her at the time. She has long been outspoken, and she is among the athletes who have knelt for the national anthem. While “anti-woke” attacks have reliably stirred the right-wing base, a recent New York Times/Siena College poll indicates that they don’t reflect most voters’ priorities. A minority of the presidential candidates, including former Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey, Gov. Doug Burgum of North Dakota and former Representative Will Hurd of Texas, have urged Republicans to focus on concrete matters like inflation. Then again, so has Mr. Trump — to a point. “I don’t like the term ‘woke,’” he said in Iowa in June, adding, “It’s just a term they use — half the people can’t even define it, they don’t know what it is.” Mary Jo Kane, a professor emerita and founder of the Tucker Center for Research on Girls & Women in Sport at the University of Minnesota, suggested that the mere existence of Mr. Trump’s latest attack was “a reflection of the growth and the power and the significance of a cultural moment of women’s sports.” “The fact that the former president of the United States is commenting on women’s sports — nobody used to comment on women’s sports,” she said. “The fact that this has become yet another arena that is culturally contested and commented on is, ironically and unwittingly, a demonstration of the role of women’s sports in our society.”
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 9, 2023 21:53:43 GMT
www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/08/07/uswnt-donald-trump-culture-war/MELBOURNE, Australia — They waited four long years for this, stocking up on antiquated ammunition and preparing their muskets for the most pointless fight. When Megan Rapinoe, a lionhearted heroine for one side and a “woke” traitor for the other, missed the target on her penalty kick during the U.S. women’s national soccer team’s shootout loss to Sweden on Sunday, her enemies prepared to take long-range shots from across the globe. Theirs is a thousand-year culture war with no end in sight and no purpose beyond stirring the pot.
If, for a moment, we can ignore the throbbing migraine and mental fatigue caused by the vitriol and take this bottom-feeder conversation at face value, then we are to surmise that the U.S. women lost to Sweden not because they could not score a goal through 120 minutes but because the players are anti-American. They exited the World Cup in the round of 16, the earliest in program history, because the majority of starters were too busy protesting the military to mouth the lyrics of “The Star-Spangled Banner” before matches. The loss was “shocking and totally unexpected” according to the least-informed soccer analyst in the Northern Hemisphere, Donald Trump, and it’s a loss that happened solely because Joe Biden is president, obviously.
Most of the U.S. players are new to the team and new to this liberal-vs.-conservative conflict that grips the nation they are supposed to proudly represent. They were not part of the core that won the program’s fourth World Cup in 2019 while also carrying the burden of calling out its own federation and fighting “institutionalized gender discrimination.” Through it all, the team’s lightning rod of a spokesperson, Rapinoe, wanted the smoke on any social and cultural matter she could find. For her rainbow pride, for her right knee that at times remained on the grass during the national anthem and for her gut reaction when asked about potentially accepting an invitation to be honored by the former one-term president — “I’m not going to the f---ing White House!” — Rapinoe became the representative of the national team. And the right’s enemy of the state.
So the moment the U.S. women failed to advance at the World Cup, their loss was cheered by people who have waited a long time to salute their sadness and declare their demise a national holiday. As unconscionable as it should be for the “America First” crowd to root against their own country, it’s unsurprising how this irrational refrain just won’t die. The pettiness of partisanship is the new birthright of every girl who dreams of becoming one of the best soccer players in her country.
Initially, the mocking was masked as purely soccer criticism — that Rapinoe, the former star but now a bit player near the end of her career, could not come through for her country in the shootout. But who were they kidding? The so-called patriots who hate Rapinoe and everything she stands for could not care less about women’s soccer. The charade lasted until Trump, or probably one of his typo-ridden flunkies, took to his social media platform to resurrect old grudges and wage stale wars.
In a post cluttered with dog whistles and best read in the voice of an 8-year-old emperor, Trump cyber-ranted: “The ‘shocking and totally unexpected’ loss by the U.S. Women’s Soccer Team to Sweden is fully emblematic of what is happening to the our once great Nation under Crooked Joe Biden. Many of our players were openly hostile to America — No other country behaved in such a manner, or even close. WOKE EQUALS FAILURE. Nice shot Megan, the USA is going to hell!!! MAGA.”
Also following the loss, Alexi Lalas, a former men’s national team player, a current Fox analyst and a well-known provocateur, called the team “polarizing” and “unlikeable to a portion of America.” Though Lalas’s comments ring with truth — because, yes, extreme right-wingers despise these women — they seem strange coming from a person who is being paid to elevate soccer knowledge for Americans, not to Hannity-ize the game.
Even as our better angels advise us, for the purposes of mental stability, not to give this divisive conversation the sunlight and attention it very much desires, it’s still difficult to ignore and probably is not going away.
Though this team has shifted toward a next generation that includes youngsters such as Sophia Smith, Trinity Rodman and Naomi Girma, who were teenagers when the United States won in 2019, the battles by, and against, the veterans linger over them.
As beneficiaries of their predecessors’ equal-pay fight, they arrived in New Zealand and Australia as pitchwomen, not protesters. Not a trace of disunity should’ve been found, yet that didn’t stop Fox News from paying close attention to the televised portion of the national anthem and counting which U.S. players held their hands over their hearts and which stood silently like insurrectionists ready to overthrow their government. Had the ’23ers clobbered the world as the program is known to do, the troubling reality is there still would’ve been people back home loudly rooting for them to fail. Unfortunately for the women, the millimeter that sent them packing allowed the anti-U.S. women’s team crowd to take its victory lap.
Now if we can go back to the actual soccer for a moment, there’s this to consider: The U.S. roster that stepped on the pitch Sunday lacked any of the top 20 players in the world, according to an ESPN ranking. Fourteen of the 23 Americans were making their World Cup debut, accounting for the team’s uneven play in the tournament. On top of that, the U.S. squad played a Swedish rival that had remained largely intact from previous tournament experiences. And despite it all, the United States dominated in shots (21-8) and shots on goal (12-1). But, sure, let’s not let silly things like facts get in the way of a good culture war.
So as the next stars take over, will the Smiths, the Rodmans and the Girmas of the reloading roster recognize that the battle is not over? Along with inheriting pay equality, they have inherited this fight. If, while balancing their moral drive with capitalizing on their worth, the women continue the program’s tradition of speaking up on issues that matter to them off the pitch, then they will remain in the crosshairs. There may be no cease-fire even if they win it all in 2027. The U.S. women’s team might have won its fight for equal pay, but the other battle rages on.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 9, 2023 21:54:02 GMT
Hunter has yet to deny he has an addiction. Ivanka and Jared used their positions to gain multimillions that are documents!! In relation to Ivanka and Jared, what documents are you talking about?
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Post by Gem Girl on Aug 9, 2023 21:56:30 GMT
What a stupid answer. Climate change is affecting more Americans across the country today than the situation at the border. Don’t get me wrong, we need to overhaul our immigration policy but think of what’s going on in Maui right now. And how people in the Northeast all but freaked out because of the smoke from those devastating fires in Canada. Really. Without doing something about the climate emergency, borders won't matter, because nobody will be alive to worry about them.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 9, 2023 21:57:27 GMT
There are a lot of reasons to cheer for the US Women's Soccer team
Opinion U.S. Soccer supports working moms. Are you watching, America? By Macaela MacKenzie July 25, 2023 at 6:30 a.m. EDT
Macaela MacKenzie is the author of “Money, Power, Respect: How Women In Sports Are Shaping the Future of Feminism.” Whether the U.S. women’s national soccer team continues to dominate the sport with a third-consecutive World Cup victory this summer, it’s already distinguished by a rare phenomenon on elite sport rosters: moms. That story serves as a valuable case study for what can happen when employers start treating moms as assets rather than annoyances. American companies are notoriously bad at supporting working moms. For most of their history, professional sports have been a particularly hostile workplace. Not for fathers. Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods — all professionals, all dads. But their fatherhood is a footnote, if it’s mentioned at all, in discussions of their performance at work.
“I never wanted to have to choose between tennis and a family,” tennis legend Serena Williams wrote when she announced her retirement in 2022. “If I were a guy, I wouldn’t be writing this because I’d be out there playing and winning while my wife was doing the physical labor of expanding our family.” Against that backdrop, what’s happening in soccer as the U.S. women defend their World Cup title in Australia and New Zealand looks even more remarkable. A record number of moms were in training camps this spring, with Alex Morgan, Crystal Dunn and Julie Ertz making it onto the final World Cup roster, tying the record set by the 2015 World Cup team.
Pregnant professional athletes pose a particularly complex challenge for their employers. A nurse or a lawyer could theoretically work until the moment her water breaks, take four weeks of postpartum leave and be considered lucky. (As it stands, 1 in 4 working moms in the United States return to work within 10 days.) At minimum, many athletes need six months away from competition, considering most doctors advise against participation in contact sports after the first trimester. Real support that can prevent a mass loss of talent means funding a robust paid-leave policy, resources to support the return to competition and ongoing child-care benefits. U.S. Soccer — Morgan, Ertz and Dunn’s employer — is an unexpected leader in this arena.
The historic equal-pay deal signed by U.S. Soccer and its men’s and women’s players last year expanded on a solid foundation of support the federation had developed since 1999 in response to pressure from players. Prior to that, pregnancy was treated like a career-ending injury. Today, U.S. Soccer offers six months of paid parental leave to all national team parents, including adoptive parents, and benefits such as fully funded child-care during training camps and competitions that most working parents should have but currently only dream of.
Alex Morgan reaches to control the ball during a game against Brazil on Feb. 22, in Frisco, Texas. (LM Otero/AP)
Alex Morgan holds her daughter, Charlie, during an event at Audi Field in Washington, on Sept. 6, 2022. (Julio Cortez/AP) “[The women’s national team] has something that other [soccer] players just don’t,” said Becca Roux, executive director for the U.S. Women’s National Team Players Association: paid-leave and child-care benefits.
For Jessica McDonald, the only U.S. mom during the 2019 Women’s World Cup, training with the national team was the only time in her career she’d gotten that kind of support. “That part of it was really emotional,” McDonald told me for my book. This kind of success shouldn’t stop at sports.
“If we can demonstrate how sports can change to better support working caregivers — with the unique aspect that professional athletes use their bodies for their jobs — it is easy for a Fortune 500 company to see how they can build supportive infrastructure for caregivers,” Alysia Montaño, an Olympian and seven-time national champion runner who called out the lack of maternity protections in sponsorship contracts in 2019, said in an email. The United States remains one of only six countries in the world without a federal paid-leave program. But even when policies do change, it doesn’t mean the culture changes. It has been illegal in the United States to pay women less than men in the same job for 60 years, yet there’s still a gender pay gap. It has been illegal to fire a woman for becoming pregnant since the 1970s, yet women are still forced out of the workplace by a system that continues to penalize working moms, not dads, to the detriment of the entire economy. And nearly half of U.S. businesses plan to cut child-care benefits, and 28 percent planned to reduce paid-leave programs in 2023, according to a survey conducted by Care.com in December.
Vietnam's goalkeeper Thi Kim Thanh Tran, right, and United States' Julie Ertz go for the ball during the Women's World Cup Group E soccer match at Eden Park in Auckland, New Zealand, on July 22. (Andrew Cornaga/AP)
Julie Ertz is honored for her 100th international game with her husband, Arizona Cardinals tight end Zach Ertz, and their baby, Madden Matthew, during a game on April 8 in Austin. (Brad Smith/USSF/Getty Images) That’s why we need to fundamentally alter perceptions about what the postpartum body is capable of and challenge the assumption that becoming a caregiver at home decreases a woman’s value at work. U.S. Soccer proves to other industries that it’s possible. But perhaps even more important than serving as a blueprint for how to support working parents, the presence of so many high-profile moms at the World Cup can remind employers why they should.
“This is for U.S. Soccer’s benefit as a program that wants to continue to be the best in the world,” Roux said. “Think of the loss of talent, among this group and for the past couple of decades, [without this support].” U.S. Soccer officials don’t have a cheat code — they simply recognize that they’re better off when they don’t count moms out. When Morgan, Dunn and Ertz take the field, their skill will be the story. But their motherhood shouldn’t be a footnote. “The more we can demonstrate how female athletes can thrive in both their careers and motherhood,” champion runner Montaño said, “the better we will be able to show other industries how it can be done.”
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 9, 2023 21:59:22 GMT
What a stupid answer. Climate change is affecting more Americans across the country today than the situation at the border. Don’t get me wrong, we need to overhaul our immigration policy but think of what’s going on in Maui right now. And how people in the Northeast all but freaked out because of the smoke from those devastating fires in Canada. Really. Without doing something about the climate emergency, borders won't matter, because nobody will be alive to worry about them. And you accuse the right of being THE ONES who are fear mongering.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 9, 2023 22:01:28 GMT
Conservatives are cheering because the women's team lost which is very unsportsmanlike an un-American. Criticize them for their play? Sure fair game. But criticizing them for their politics is despicable. www.poynter.org/newsletters/2023/some-conservative-media-rejoice-u-s-womens-loss-in-world-cup/The United States women’s soccer team was shockingly (although, not really if you’ve been paying attention) eliminated from the women’s World Cup on Sunday. They lost on penalty kicks to Sweden in the round of 16. It’s the earliest the four-time champs have ever been eliminated. But they had struggled throughout the tournament, and getting knocked out Sunday should have come as no surprise.
It was also not surprising, but disappointing nonetheless, to see some of the reaction to the U.S. loss. There’s nothing wrong with criticizing the team for not playing well. This isn’t a youth sport where we applaud effort and hand out snow cones after the game. The women are fair game to be criticized for on-field play. But some conservative commentators seemed to take joy in the U.S.’s elimination because of off-the-field topics.
Fox News’ Will Cain tweeted, “I always pull for Team USA. All sports. And I really don’t take joy in the earliest elimination ever for the USWNT. But this team came to be defined by arrogant celebrity activists who went out of their way to exhibit shame in the US, begin the process of destroying their own sport (advocating for men to play women’s sports) and curry victimization with false narratives about equal pay. Nobody made it harder to root for them than the USWNT. There are women on this team who have poured their heart and soul and sweat into this team for the US. Who are proud Americans focused on soccer. I hope those players define the future of the USWNT.”
He also took aim at U.S. star Megan Rapinoe, who missed on her penalty kick chance Sunday. Cain tweeted the video of Rapino missing and wrote, “Won an ESPY. Lost the World Cup.”
Awful Announcing’s Andrew Bucholtz wrote, “Of course, Cain is far from the only person to express sentiments along those lines, or the only media personality. But his commentary stands out for him being at least a former sports analyst who’s now bashing athletes for off-the-field stances and claiming those stances are what’s behind poor on-field results. (And for him working at the same company as the U.S. broadcaster of the World Cup, albeit in a rather different division.)”
Clay Travis, the conservative radio host and podcaster, also mentioned politics in a tweet, saying the women have gone from a team “the entire country loved” in 2015 to a “far left wing politics-laden team that barely made the top 16 eight years later.” He added they were “an unmitigated disaster.”
It seems Cain and Travis, and hundreds of their followers who commented on those tweets, have particular issues with Rapinoe. (Search Rapinoe’s name on Twitter if you really want to see what many so-called “patriots” think of her.)
One conservative commentator tweeted, “I’m glad they lost,” adding they were “America-hating, entitled, ungrateful group.” Another said, “I would root for Al Qaeda before I’d root for this American Women’s Soccer Team. … They are the sports version of Antifa.” Podcaster Jason Whitlock, who used to be a decent sportswriter, tweeted during the match, “We got a chance. PKs. Let’s go Sweden!”
Then, of course, Donald Trump weighed in Sunday evening, posting on his Truth Social: “The ‘shocking and totally unexpected’ loss by the U.S. Women’s Soccer Team to Sweden is fully emblematic of what is happening to the our once great Nation under Crooked Joe Biden. Many of our players were openly hostile to America – No other country behaved in such a manner, or even close. WOKE EQUALS FAILURE. Nice shot Megan, the USA is going to Hell!!! MAGA.”
And why? Because Rapinoe and others have spoken up on diversity, equity and inclusion issues and, I guess, that doesn’t line up with their brand of politics. Again, it was disappointing, although not at all surprising, to see so many comments under the Cain and Travis tweets from so-called Americans who openly rejoiced that a team representing America had been eliminated. All because players used their First Amendment rights to speak up about issues they care about.
Longtime ESPN journalist Pablo Torre put it best, tweeting: “Nothing says AMERICA FIRST more than rooting against *checks notes* the literal U.S national team because they *checks notes* peacefully exercised freedom of speech.”
Sportswriter Mike Freeman, who is now the sports race and inequality editor at USA Today, tweeted, “I’m totally shocked the right wing is making the US women soccer team’s loss about wokeness. Shocked. Stunned. Flabbergasted, if you will.”
The U.S. women absolutely deserve to be questioned about their on-field performance. They had an awful tournament and deserve to be called out for that. But to take joy at their failure (after so much past success) just because they exercised their rights as Americans is hypocritical and, I would argue, un-American.
Instead of listening too much to the knuckleheads, however, check out these more reasonable and intelligent reactions to the U.S. women’s performance:
The Washington Post’s Candace Buckner with “The new face of U.S. women’s soccer is stunned disbelief.” The New York Times’ Jeré Longman with “For Megan Rapinoe, an Ending Not Even She Could Have Imagined.” The Wall Street Journal’s Rachel Bachman with “The Two-Year Slide That Ended the U.S. Women’s Soccer Dynasty.” The Ringer’s Brian Phillips with “The USWNT Faced a New Kind of Uncertainty in the 2023 World Cup and Lost.” The Associated Press’ Anne M. Peterson with “Megan Rapinoe leaves her final Women’s World Cup with pride after a long career.”
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