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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 4:02:24 GMT
Connecting the dots between Nixon, Reagan and Trump heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/august-9-2023?r=1f0orz&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=emailWhen the story of the Iran-Contra affair broke in November 1986, government officials continued to break the law, shredding documents that Congress had subpoenaed. After fourteen administration officials were indicted and eleven convicted, the next president, George H. W. Bush, who had been Reagan’s vice president, pardoned them on the advice of his attorney general William Barr. (Yes, that William Barr.)
The independent prosecutor in the case, Lawrence Walsh, worried that the pardons weakened American democracy. They “undermine…the principle…that no man is above the law,” he said. Pardoning high-ranking officials “demonstrates that powerful people with powerful allies can commit serious crimes in high office, deliberately abusing the public trust without consequences.”
Walsh’s warning seems to be coming to life. The Republican Party now stands behind a man whose legal troubles currently include indictment on 40 counts for taking and hiding classified national security documents and on four counts of trying to steal an election in order to stay in power.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 10, 2023 4:14:21 GMT
For those that think Trump's violent rhetoric about going after people that go after him, targeting enemies etc. is harmless, it's not. This is what it leads to www.nytimes.com/2023/08/09/us/politics/fbi-shooting-utah-biden-threats.htmlUtah Man Accused of Threatening Biden Is Killed by F.B.I. Agent The man, who was shot while agents were trying to serve arrest and search warrants at a home, was also charged with threatening other elected officials.
An F.B.I. agent on Wednesday fatally shot a man in Provo, Utah, who officials said was armed and had threatened to assassinate President Biden just hours before the president was scheduled to speak in nearby Salt Lake City.
Craig D. Robertson, 75, was also charged with threatening to shoot other elected officials, including Alvin L. Bragg, the Manhattan district attorney, as well as with making threats against law enforcement officials, according to court documents filed a day earlier in U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City.
According to the court filing, Mr. Robertson owned numerous firearms, including a sniper rifle. The complaint also laid out his history of threats on social media, where he referred to his guns as Democratic eradicators. In one post last year, he photographed three rifles and said he was “getting ready for the 2024 election cycle.” He repeatedly taunted the agents investigating him, saying they came close to “violent eradication.” Last week, he noted on social media that Mr. Biden would be visiting Utah and that he was going to “dust off” an M24 rifle and get out his old camouflage suit, one typically used by snipers.
Other subjects of Mr. Robertson’s threats: Attorney General Merrick B. Garland, whom he described as a Nazi; Gov. Gavin Newsom of California; and Letitia James, the New York attorney general.
In September 2022, referring to Ms. James, Mr. Robertson wrote on Facebook that “a sniper’s bullet does not recognize your qualified immunity.” In October 2022, he shared a picture of a semiautomatic handgun, calling it a “Merrick Garland eradication tool.”
In yet another Facebook post in October, Mr. Robertson described a “patriotic dream” in which he said stood over a wounded Mr. Newsom, “my suppressed S&W M&P 9mm still smoking.”
In a Facebook post in March, Mr. Robertson taunted the F.B.I.
“To my friends in the Federal Bureau of Idiots: I know you’re reading this,” he wrote.
Spokespeople for Mr. Bragg and Ms. James declined to comment.
The F.B.I. has been increasingly concerned about threats to its agents. Last year, law enforcement officers shot and killed a man who they said tried to break into the F.B.I.’s Cincinnati office.
According to the complaint, other online posts indicated Mr. Robertson’s intent to kill Mr. Biden and Mr. Bragg, who is leading a prosecution of Mr. Trump in New York in connection with a hush money payment to a porn star during his 2016 campaign.
And a Tennessee man accused of assaulting the police during the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol faced additional charges of plotting to assassinate several of the federal agents who had investigated him. He was also accused of planning an attack on the F.B.I.’s field office in Knoxville, Tenn.
Mr. Trump and his supporters have downplayed the notion that his incendiary criticisms of the Justice Department and the F.B.I. are anything other than an expression of legitimate grievances.
But federal and local authorities have remained on heightened alert, providing additional security to prosecutors investigating Mr. Trump and the judges presiding over his cases.
On Sept. 19, 2022, Mr. Robertson wrote on Facebook that “the time is right for a presidential assassination or two.”
“First Joe then Kamala,” he wrote. In another message, he declared that he wanted shoot Mr. Bragg in the head and watch him die.
The post also mentioned George Soros, the financier and Democratic megadonor, who has been a target of Mr. Trump and Republicans in Congress, and echoed Mr. Trump’s attacks on Mr. Bragg and Mr. Soros.
This is flat out horrifying. I really fear for Biden and Jack Smith and other people Trump feels are threats. I am glad the FBI found this man.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 10, 2023 4:21:23 GMT
No? They're not doing that? Applying your own standards onelasttime , then she did nothing wrong. I read this and your post above and I want to do this 🤦🏻♀️. And it’s not just you but a chunk of the country that can’t or won’t see what is clearly in front of them. And how much it’s a threat to our democracy, a threat to the foundation of this country. And I can’t decide if you really believe the stuff you post, or you do it to get a rise out of folks. Tonight I’m not going to try and find out. I’ve been listening to The Righteous Brothers and Neil Diamond and that’s put me in a mellow mood. So tonight I’m going to continue my sing along with Neil Diamond and watch shorts on YouTube. I’m still watching videos about jet fighters for some reason. Did you know that on an aircraft carrier when a jet revives up its engines just before it takes off they are so powerful that it causes the jet next in line behind that barrier you see to shake. And because of the heat from the jet engines the back of that barrier is a network of pipes with salt water running through them to cool it. And now you know. Night! You made a claim. I went along with your claim and asked a question about it. I'm not a mind reader, but it sure looks like you didn't like the answer so you ignored the question. I base that on the fact if you had a good answer you would gleefully share it as usual. Instead you ignored it and posted about something else entirely. So I was only left with applying your own standards to your claim. You don't like that either so you try to dismiss how your own standard backfired on you, so you dismissed that with a word salad of absolutely no substance relating to the conversation, AT ALL. If you'd like to discuss the issues rather than dismiss me in some irrational fashion when the facts don't work in your favor, I'm open to hearing things I might not know. Are you?
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 10, 2023 4:24:46 GMT
Considering I didn't reply to that, I replied to Gem Girl who said: So yeah, that IS fear mongering.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 10, 2023 5:01:45 GMT
Biden "we built a 368 billion dollar climate control facility."
What is that? Where is it? Is that even a thing? Why does no one know WTH he's talking about? Does he even know?
When asked if he's going to declare a climate emergency... Biden "I’ve already done that."
Biden "we're going to build a bridge across the Indian Ocean"
Biden "Putin is clearly losing the war in Iraq"
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 10, 2023 9:37:22 GMT
You are losing your self made war here!!
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Post by sunshine on Aug 10, 2023 10:19:53 GMT
You are losing your self made war here!! Why does the big guy continue to lie about not knowing and/or discussing hunters business dealings? Why did the big guy meet with a Russian oligarch and then said oligarch paid hunter millions? Why in the hell did the big guy’s grandchildren have money transferred to them? 🤔
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 10, 2023 12:35:42 GMT
You are losing your self made war here!! I'm not having any kind of war, I'm providing left out facts, left out context and asking questions. Interesting that you see that as a war. That says more about you and what you're doing here than it does about me. Can you offer anything of substance pertaining to any of the subjects? Can you speak to any of these statements by Biden? Biden "we built a 368 billion dollar climate control facility." What is that? Where is it? Is that even a thing? Why does no one know WTH he's talking about? When asked if he's going to declare a climate emergency... Biden "I’ve already done that." Biden "we're going to build a bridge across the Indian Ocean" Biden "Putin is clearly losing the war in Iraq"
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 15:20:05 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 15:20:28 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 15:24:33 GMT
Good news on inflation www.nytimes.com/live/2023/08/10/business/cpi-inflation-fedJuly Inflation Report Inflation Remains Moderate as High Interest Rates Bite Consumer prices rose 3.2 percent in the year through July, an uptick in the headline rate that masked more encouraging details for the Federal Reserve in its campaign to tame inflation.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 15:25:35 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 15:28:41 GMT
Not surprising. The only person he is loyal to is himself. In the unlikely event he loses a primary, I’m certain he will claim election fraud. And he will never concede a general election. www.nytimes.com/2023/08/10/us/politics/trump-gop-debate-loyalty-pledge.htmlTrump Says He Won’t Sign Loyalty Pledge Required for G.O.P. Debate The Republican National Committee has demanded that 2024 contenders pledge to support the eventual nominee in order to debate. The former president is refusing.
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Post by naby64 on Aug 10, 2023 15:31:32 GMT
Thinking about the aircraft carrier. Have you guys been on any navel ships? I’ve been on one. Before it was decommissioned it made a stop in San Francisco during Fleet Week. So some us from work during lunch took a hike to the pier where it was tied up. And we boarded the USS Missouri. When I was in New York I wanted to visit the USS Intrepid museum to see the Space Shuttle but didn’t make it. I am just stepping into the comments here to say yes I have! My YDS is a sailor and was on an LHD. Fleet Week 2018, they were down in New Orleans. I drove down to see him and got to get a behind the scenes tour from what the general public was getting to see. It is a huge ship and nothing but stairs. YDS talked about falling down more than 1 set. The worst time was when he was in a hurry(always) and landed on his knees. They were pretty busted up and sore but nothing broken. He is a recruiter at the moment but is chomping at the bits to get back on a ship. He wants to be stationed on a destroyer next.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 15:36:08 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 15:37:32 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 15:38:29 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 10, 2023 15:44:15 GMT
TFG has trained them well... D'Oliveria has another delay, no barred Florida attorney...
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 15:46:41 GMT
The cost of the vote of a certain conservative Supreme Court justice is a luxury vacation www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-other-billionaires-sokol-huizenga-novelly-supreme-courtThe fullest accounting yet shows how Thomas has secretly reaped the benefits from a network of wealthy and well-connected patrons that is far more extensive than previously understood During his three decades on the Supreme Court, Clarence Thomas has enjoyed steady access to a lifestyle most Americans can only imagine. A cadre of industry titans and ultrawealthy executives have treated him to far-flung vacations aboard their yachts, ushered him into the premium suites at sporting events and sent their private jets to fetch him — including, on more than one occasion, an entire 737. It’s a stream of luxury that is both more extensive and from a wider circle than has been previously understood. Like clockwork, Thomas’ leisure activities have been underwritten by benefactors who share the ideology that drives his jurisprudence. Their gifts include: At least 38 destination vacations, including a previously unreported voyage on a yacht around the Bahamas; 26 private jet flights, plus an additional eight by helicopter; a dozen VIP passes to professional and college sporting events, typically perched in the skybox; two stays at luxury resorts in Florida and Jamaica; and one standing invitation to an uber-exclusive golf club overlooking the Atlantic coast.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 15:51:09 GMT
Could just be the standard Trump legal tactic to delay. Or the lawyers Trump hires to defend witnesses have too many conflicts of interest www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/10/trump-aide-carlos-de-oliveira-arraignment/Trump, aide plead not guilty in documents case. De Oliveira does not enter plea The third defendant, Carlos De Oliveira, property manager at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago property in Florida, was charged for the first time in the superseding indictment. He was expected to enter his plea to four counts Thursday for his alleged role in a scheme with Trump and Nauta to try to delete security footage that revealed Mar-a-Lago workers moving boxes of government materials that federal officials had already demanded be returned. De Oliveira was not arraigned because a Florida-based attorney had not yet notified the court that they are representing De Oliveira — a requirement for arraignments in South Florida federal courts. This was the second time De Oliveira showed up to court but could not be arraigned. He made an initial court appearance in a South Florida courthouse last week but was unable to enter his plea because he did not have a lawyer accredited to practice in Florida.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 10, 2023 15:51:30 GMT
The cost of the vote of a certain conservative Supreme Court justice is a luxury vacation www.propublica.org/article/clarence-thomas-other-billionaires-sokol-huizenga-novelly-supreme-courtThe fullest accounting yet shows how Thomas has secretly reaped the benefits from a network of wealthy and well-connected patrons that is far more extensive than previously understood During his three decades on the Supreme Court, Clarence Thomas has enjoyed steady access to a lifestyle most Americans can only imagine. A cadre of industry titans and ultrawealthy executives have treated him to far-flung vacations aboard their yachts, ushered him into the premium suites at sporting events and sent their private jets to fetch him — including, on more than one occasion, an entire 737. It’s a stream of luxury that is both more extensive and from a wider circle than has been previously understood. Like clockwork, Thomas’ leisure activities have been underwritten by benefactors who share the ideology that drives his jurisprudence. Their gifts include: At least 38 destination vacations, including a previously unreported voyage on a yacht around the Bahamas; 26 private jet flights, plus an additional eight by helicopter; a dozen VIP passes to professional and college sporting events, typically perched in the skybox; two stays at luxury resorts in Florida and Jamaica; and one standing invitation to an uber-exclusive golf club overlooking the Atlantic coast. I don't understand how this is just now coming out and how anyone can defend this. A judge any judge should not be allowed to accept gifts or if allowed they should have to disclose them and recuse themselves if a gift giver or their business comes before their court. Obviously this has been going on for decades. I don't see how anyone can think this is acceptable.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 10, 2023 15:54:39 GMT
Could just be the standard Trump legal tactic to delay. Or the lawyers Trump hires to defend witnesses have too many conflicts of interest www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/10/trump-aide-carlos-de-oliveira-arraignment/Trump, aide plead not guilty in documents case. De Oliveira does not enter plea The third defendant, Carlos De Oliveira, property manager at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago property in Florida, was charged for the first time in the superseding indictment. He was expected to enter his plea to four counts Thursday for his alleged role in a scheme with Trump and Nauta to try to delete security footage that revealed Mar-a-Lago workers moving boxes of government materials that federal officials had already demanded be returned. De Oliveira was not arraigned because a Florida-based attorney had not yet notified the court that they are representing De Oliveira — a requirement for arraignments in South Florida federal courts. This was the second time De Oliveira showed up to court but could not be arraigned. He made an initial court appearance in a South Florida courthouse last week but was unable to enter his plea because he did not have a lawyer accredited to practice in Florida.
I don't understand how this is a thing. Its obviously a delay tactic. If you don't have a lawyer can't they just appoint one - a court appointed lawyer. If that could happen I would bet they would find a lawyer quickly since they wouldn't want a court appointed one. I am tired of people working the system.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 16:48:13 GMT
www.nytimes.com/2023/08/10/us/politics/iran-us-prisoner-swap.htmlU.S. Reaches Deal With Iran to Free Americans for Jailed Iranians and Funds Five American detainees will eventually be allowed to leave Iran in exchange for Tehran gaining access to $6 billion for humanitarian purposes and the United States freeing several jailed Iranians.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 16:57:56 GMT
What President Biden and the Democrats have done for coal miners vs Trump. Remember when he said he would bring back coal? Not surprisingly, that didn't happen www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/10/biden-trump-2024-coal-country/It’s unlikely that in next year’s election, voters in deep red coal country will thank President Biden for the fact that his administration is now doing what prior administrations failed to do for decades: Acting to protect miners from the disturbing resurgence of black lung disease. Nor will Biden win too many votes for his efforts to help those communities build an economic future. Instead, most people in coal country will almost certainly vote Republican yet again. Which raises some questions: What exactly do the 2024 GOP presidential candidates plan to do to help those struggling communities? So far they’ve given no hint of a plan, as if they know they don’t have to bother. So will those voters demand more from the candidates? Coal miners and their advocates are celebrating the news that the Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA) finally proposed a rule to limit allowable levels of silica dust, which is stirred up as miners dig farther underground to reach coal deposits where all the coal nearer the surface has been mined. Miners have been asking for tighter rules for years, but the companies fought them relentlessly. During the Trump administration, the MSHA — which was led by a former coal company executive — resisted efforts to toughen regulation of silica dust. If Biden can deliver on his promise of a green manufacturing boom, the choice for people in coal country will be not between a coal job and a green energy job, but between a green energy job and a job at the dollar store. That’s not to say that skepticism of Biden’s industrial policy isn’t warranted. Creating prosperity in distressed rural communities is an incredibly difficult task, one that will take years to accomplish even if everything goes well. There’s a good chance his efforts will succeed in some places more than others. But at least he’s offering something. As for Trump and his Republican opponents, they haven’t said how they want to help coal country. Maybe they think they don’t have to, since they’ll win there no matter what next November. And unfortunately, they might be right. Seven years ago, the two presidential nominees disagreed about the future of coal country. Hillary Clinton was savaged for saying, “We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business,” even though she added that miners deserve a better future because they “labored in those mines for generations, losing their health, often losing their lives to turn on our lights and power our factories.” In contrast, Trump came to West Virginia, put on a hard-hat, and said, “For those miners, get ready, because you’re going to be working your asses off!” Only one of them was telling the truth. It wasn’t Trump: He did not arrest the decline of the coal industry, and today there are fewer than 42,000 coal jobs in the United States. More Americans work at the Cheesecake Factory than in the entire coal industry. Trump left coal communities no more prosperous or secure than they were before he took office. He failed coal miners. Biden’s message to coal country — and to similar places that suffered a loss of manufacturing jobs — is that if the federal government provides a combination of infrastructure improvements and industrial policy aimed at promoting manufacturing, they can find something akin to what coal once offered: a critical mass of good jobs that don’t require college degrees.The administration has spent its entire time in office touting its efforts to direct money to coal country, much of it in the form of green investments. One common response from those who still work in the coal industry is that it’s a bad deal to give up a job in coal that might pay $30 or more an hour, and comes with health insurance and other benefits, for a job in green energy that will pay less and have fewer benefits. The trouble is, that isn’t really the choice. Coal jobs are already scarce, and will probably only get scarcer. While similar questions about traditional versus green jobs are being raised in the auto industry, cars dwarf coal; there are more than 1 million auto-manufacturing workers in America, and cars will continue to be a huge industry. Coal, on the other hand, is in an inexorable decline, not because Democratic presidents didn’t support it enough but because of market forces. It used to be the cheapest fuel for electricity, but natural gas and renewables are now often cheaper. The drop in price for wind and solar energy in particular has been stunningly fast, and that won’t reverse. No matter who is elected president, we aren’t going back to the days when coal was our dominant fuel source and hundreds of thousands of Americans worked in coal mines.Yet we’re still gripped by a misleading story, that Democrats are waging a “war on coal” while Republicans want to stand up for the industry, the people who work in it and the communities they live in. That story is false. Here’s the truth: Coal is in a long decline, and anyone who says there’s a coal revival in the offing that will bring huge numbers of good-paying mining jobs back is lying. Yet that’s just what Donald Trump said in 2016, and he and his party haven’t said anything different since.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 17:12:14 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 17:15:58 GMT
Nope, he won't debate. He refuses to sign the loyalty pledge to back the primary winner.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 17:17:06 GMT
MTG and others are why we have people like the guy in Utah making threats to President Biden, other Democrats, Jack Smith and the FBI. www.npr.org/2023/08/09/1193024376/fbi-shooting-utah-biden-threatsA Utah man who was accused of making threats to President Biden was shot and killed in an FBI raid. The man also threatened New York prosecutor Alvin Bragg.
The FBI was investigating Craig Deleeuw Robertson, according to charging documents obtained by NPR. They stated that Robertson had "intent to kill, at a minimum, D.A. Bragg and President Joe Biden."
Robertson allegedly said he needed to prepare his camouflage and sniper rifle in anticipation of Biden's trip to Utah this week. Robertson also allegedly threatened to assassinate Bragg in a parking garage.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 17:18:08 GMT
The Ohio vote is a major victory for abortion rights, democracy and Democrats.
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Post by hop2 on Aug 10, 2023 17:19:45 GMT
Nope, he won't debate. He refuses to sign the loyalty pledge to back the primary winner. Trump at a debate is useless anyway as all he spouts is he’s the mostest greatest at everything and a bunch of word salad that means nothing. The man does not make sense when he speaks.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 10, 2023 17:24:00 GMT
Nope, he won't debate. He refuses to sign the loyalty pledge to back the primary winner. Trump at a debate is useless anyway as all he spouts is he’s the mostest greatest at everything and a bunch of word salad that means nothing. The man does not make sense when he speaks. He can't tell the truth or speak articulately but that doesn't matter if you act like a bully and shout over others in a debate.
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