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Post by aj2hall on Aug 12, 2023 0:48:54 GMT
No problem with questioning the election results!! However over 60 court cases said no issues of merit were raised. Time to accept the results and move on. Gore did it, Hillary did it... Exactly it’s ok to question and even ask for a recount but not for elections to be overturned because you didn’t like the results especially when there has been no evidence of fraud. A few cases here and there on both sides but nothing to suggest enough to change the outcome. It’s time for the lies to stop. This is hurting the country. I remember Mitch McConnell asking in November 2020, what is the harm in letting the cases play out in the court? The court cases themselves are not a problem, but Republicans making false accusations of election fraud is a problem. Regrettably, Republicans did not have the integrity to call that out and now 70% of Republicans think the election was rigged. At this point, even if the Orange Menace came out and said I was wrong, there was no fraud, his supporters would not believe it. Undermining confidence in the elections is a major problem. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 12, 2023 0:52:16 GMT
Former WH Press Secretary Ari Fleischer warns GOP House that an impeachment could cause an civil war in the GOP.. I don't agree with an impeachment because Biden has not done anything that's impeachable. However, I think the Republican Party could use a major shake up. Just this week, the Republican Party in Alabama just disregarding the Supreme Court to pass another gerrymandered map or the Republicans in Ohio trying to dilute the voices of voters are signs that Republicans have abandoned basic democratic principles just to stay in power. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 12, 2023 1:00:05 GMT
And in the mean time who would investigate as needed. Many FBI agents are from local LE from all over the country.
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 12, 2023 1:00:14 GMT
Just a FEW of the facts...
Fact, Not a single dollar has been traced going directly to Joe Biden.
Fact, bank records show millions of dollars went to Biden family members from foreign countries.
Fact, according to Hunter, himself , he has given half his salary to Joe.
Fact, bank records show that there are more than 20 shell companies created by Bidens during Joe's time as VP
Fact, emails show "10% for the big guy, held by H"
Fact, witness confirms "the big guy" is Joe Biden.
Fact, the White House has changed their words from "doesn't talk to his son about business" to "not IN business with his son".
Reminder...
Fact, not a single dollar has been traced going directly to Joe Biden.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 12, 2023 1:01:27 GMT
He's not the only one and he's talked about this before but the idea of raising the voting age is really alarming. He's willing to grant exemptions if 18-25 year old cans pass a civics test. That sounds a lot like the literacy tests of the Jim Crow south. www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/opinion/vivek-ramaswamy-voting-rights.htmlRamaswamy has elaborated in interviews on his call to raise the voting age for most young people. “I think we have a loss of civic pride in our country. I think people, young people included, do not value a country that they simply inherit,” he told NPR. “I think we value a country that we have a stake in building. And I think that asking a young person, asking any citizen, to know something about the country before voting, I think is a perfectly reasonable condition.”
Demanding a de facto literacy test for most young Americans to vote is not actually a “perfectly reasonable condition.” It is a direct assault on the basic democratic rights of millions of citizens.
To begin, there’s the fundamental fact that no aspect of political equality hinges on the ability to memorize trivia. What’s more, you do not need a formal education of any sort to embrace the duties of citizenship or to understand yourself as a political actor with a right to self-government. You do not even need one to understand your political interests and to work, individually or with others, to pursue them through our democratic institutions.
To think otherwise is to believe that Americans, from the yeoman farmers of the early Republic to the freedmen of the Reconstruction South to the urban industrial workers of the early 20th century, have never been equipped to govern themselves.
There’s also the practical fact that most new requirements for voting in the United States are — in intent and purpose — new restrictions on voting.
Democrats win most younger voters across all racial and ethnic groups. In the 2022 midterm elections, according to the Pew Research Center, 68 percent of voters under 30 backed Democrats compared with 31 percent for Republicans. And soon, young people will account for a majority of potential voters in the country.
Rather than try to appeal to or persuade this bloc, Ramaswamy’s proposal is to remove the vast majority from the electorate altogether.
In many ways, big and small, the Republican Party has turned against the bedrock republican principles of majority rule and popular sovereignty. We see it in a governor removing a duly elected official because he disagrees with the views she represents, a state legislature gerrymandering itself into a permanent majority regardless of where the votes fall, an entire state Republican Party trying (and failing) to change the rules of constitutional amendment to keep the voters from affirming their rights and a former president who would rather end the American experiment in democracy than accept defeat at the ballot box.
Ramaswamy is playing the same song. There’s almost no one in the Republican Party, at this point, who isn’t.www.npr.org/2023/05/19/1176892623/vivek-ramaswamy-candidate-president-2024 |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 12, 2023 1:13:25 GMT
Except they cannot produce any evidence, so their "facts" are not!!
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 12, 2023 1:14:15 GMT
DeSantis is messing with curriculum AGAIN. This time, it's science. Distorting science to downplay the seriousness of climate change. Prager U is at the center of the new curriculum again. Climate change is not a debate, it is established science. www.eenews.net/articles/in-desantis-fla-schools-get-ok-for-climate-denial-videos/Wind and solar power pollute the Earth and make life miserable. Recent global and local heat records reflect natural temperature cycles. And people who champion those beliefs are fighting oppression.
These are some of the themes of children’s videos produced by an influential conservative advocacy group. Now, the videos could soon be used in Florida’s classrooms.
Florida’s Department of Education has approved the classroom use of material from the Prager University Foundation, which produces videos education experts say distort science, history, gender and other topics. And those researchers fear that the nation’s third-largest state has opened a door that will help spread the videos to classrooms in other states. PragerU’s videos use talking points common among global warming skeptics to frame climate science and policy. Many of the videos attack renewable energy sources such as solar and wind.
An eight-minute video, “Poland: Ania’s Energy Crisis,” exemplifies how PragerU introduces climate denialism to children by subtly attacking established science and the people concerned about global warming.
In the video, teenager Ania is concerned about climate change because of what she learned at school. Climate-denial talking points are introduced almost verbatim in the trusted voice of Ania’s mother and father.
Ania’s parents tell her that the climate has always cooled and warmed — “long before carbon emissions were a factor” — and that climate action is pointless until China and India cut their emissions. Ania also hears that renewable energy is unreliable and too expensive.
Ania repeats her parents’ claims in class and is shunned by her teacher and classmates. Her sadness lifts, however, when her grandfather tells her about life under Nazism in World War II. Ania feels empowered because her grandfather says “fighting oppression always takes courage.”
A PragerU video about a child in Africa features a narrator calmly attacking solar and wind because “their batteries break down and become hazardous waste” and because it’s risky “to rely on things like wind and sunlight, which are not constant.”
Streit, the PragerU CEO, said she wants to ensure schools frame climate science as a debate. A goal of her organization is to reach children when they are at their most impressionable. That’s why Florida approved the PragerU Kids channel content, she said.www.politico.com/newsletters/power-switch/2023/08/07/next-frontier-in-fla-education-wars-climate-00110115Florida’s move to introduce climate disinformation into the classroom follows a rising trend of what education experts call dangerous propaganda in schools. Texas now requires its schools to teach positive lessons about fossil fuels, for example. That could have broader implications for the national textbook market, as Texas is one of the country’s biggest consumers of education materials.
Of particular concern is the impressionable age at which these videos could be shown, said Adrienne McCarthy, a researcher at Kansas State University who tracks PragerU.
“They can take these right-wing, controversial ideas and cloak them in seemingly harmless and friendly rhetoric,” McCarthy told Scott.www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/11/maui-fires-florida-desantis-climate-change-curriculum/While the world watched in horror as Maui burned, Florida educators were busy adopting a new climate-change curriculum that minimizes teaching about the dangers of global warming and distorts scientific information.
If only Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) were stupid enough to believe all this, but a Yale- and Harvard-educated military veteran can’t pretend he doesn’t know better. Far worse than a stupid governor is an intelligent one who plays dumb and down to voters.
Florida’s new curriculum is a product of the Prager University Foundation, a conservative nonprofit that aims to present The Other Side on hot-button issues.
The problem with some of the PragerU videos I watched is their both-sides-now approach to established science. “He said/she said” might work in couples therapy, but science isn’t subject to romantic interpretation. At least it shouldn’t be.
PragerU plays down the relationship between human activities and global warming; refers to climate science as “hysteria,” and compares activists to Nazis. (Memo to Prager: Only Nazis can be compared to Nazis.)
Another Prager video stars self-described “philosopher and persuasion expert” Alex Epstein. In a voice that says, “I’m talking to you, second-graders,” he claims we need to use more natural gas and oil, not less. |
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 12, 2023 1:17:37 GMT
Except they cannot produce any evidence, so their "facts" are not!! There is evidence for every single fact I mentioned. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 12, 2023 1:22:45 GMT
If we learned anything from Jan 6, it is that we should take Trump's threats seriously. His recent threat, If you go after me, I go after you should be taken seriously by Republicans and courts. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/11/donald-trump-indictment-threat-jan-6/“If you go after me, I’m coming after you.”
Loyalists of former president Donald Trump have rushed to play down that message, posted on his social media platform, Truth Social, as the very definition of political speech — nothing more than a response to groups opposed to his presidential campaign. We have been here before. The country ignores such threats at its peril. History teaches that when Trump cloaks himself in martyrdom and political victimhood, bad things — violent, ugly and bloody — can happen.
Remember the Trump-inspired insurrection and assault on the Capitol? Recall Trump exhorting the Jan. 6, 2021, crowd to stop what he falsely described as an unlawful congressional transfer of power to President-elect Joe Biden? “We fight like hell,” he said. “And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.” Remember Trump directing his adoring MAGA fans to head to the Capitol, leaving them to believe that he was going with them and telling them to give Republicans in Congress “the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country”?
Let’s be clear: Jan. 6 was a call to arms. And Trump’s people responded by the hundreds.
Let’s not repeat the mistakes of Jan. 6. Get on high alert now. Double security around the courts. Take seriously any threats against special counsel Jack Smith and U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan (who on Friday warned Trump not to say things that put the safety of witnesses in the case at risk — we’ll see how that goes).
The same applies to courts and prosecutors in New York and Georgia.
Yes, this is our nation’s capital. Don’t forget that Trump’s rabid supporters came to town and left in their wake more than 100 assaulted police officers and nearly $3 million in damage.
“I’m coming after you.” This time, let America be waiting. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 12, 2023 1:25:29 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 12, 2023 1:30:34 GMT
A lighter perspective on the Clarence Thomas ethics scandal www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/11/clarence-thomas-billionaire-vacation-ethics-satire/I did not used to think I wanted to be a Supreme Court justice. First, it sounded as though you needed to know a lot of law, which sounded time-consuming. That required probably years of your life and taking a class called Torts, which would sadden me because every day I would hope that cake would be involved and every day it would not be. Also, you would have to pass the bar exam. And then for the rest of your career, you would have to carry around several leather-bound books in case you forgot what the law was. So much for law school. The process of getting on the court sounded ... not exactly optimal. Any time you have to sit and hear Lindsey Graham’s opinion about whether you should get to do a job before you get to do that job, you start to question things.
Even the power seemed limited at best. If you got into the legal business because your passion was yanking rights out from under people, like rugs, you could not simply do it willy-nilly. You had to wait around for a case to arise, involving actual people, before you could weigh in. You could not simply have someone invent made-up people who wanted a website and rule on that hypothetical. (At least, you used to not be able to.)
Also, you had to work in D.C., a city where the weather was bad in some way all of the time except for a few weeks when the National Mall was overrun with tourists. You could not just go golfing whenever you wanted; nor could you enjoy prime, unparalleled views of Jackson Hole, world-class fishing and dining, or unfettered access to a private jet.
Granted, the job had some upsides. You got to wear a robe to work, which gave everything a fun, spa-like atmosphere, and underneath that robe you could wear whatever you wanted. And you got to make the law of the land and, occasionally, decide things like who got to be president and who could have control of their wombs seized by the state. (These were not the same people.) You also got to make decisions that, ultimately, would determine a huge amount of the dialogue on “Law & Order.”
But I see now that I was wrong to rule out this career. I believe the amount of law you need to know was greatly exaggerated. Supreme Court justice is the lifestyle for me. ProPublica, which, as I understand it, is a publication dedicated entirely to concocting ludicrous fantasy vacations I would never have imagined in my wildest dreams and then revealing that Justice Clarence Thomas has been on them (among other perks), has just revealed even more luxury vacations that Thomas has taken, with the assurance that this is “almost certainly an undercount” of the luxurious, undisclosed travel he has received. Now that is a disclaimer! (Most Supreme Court justices take only one or two vacations per year. Vacations Thomas, who takes 3,800 annually, is an outlier and should not have been counted.)
I did not know about all the perks! I did not know you got assigned a personal billionaire (or several) and got to live the lifestyle of one of America’s wealthier car dealers. I did not know you would not only get to travel with them, be serenaded with their custom you-inspired songs (is this a perk?) and get to visit their humble, rustic lodges but also get to travel without them, in their planes. Nor did I realize that the benefits would not stop there!
Exclusive golf club access! Sports tickets in fancy boxes! All the football you can eat! RVs! Yachts! Helicopters! It’s a miracle the justices manage to take any rights away from anyone! They are always off on vacation somewhere, on someone else’s dime — indeed, I would not call this living on someone else’s dime. There is no way a dime covers all this!
I am going to rethink my life! I thought if you wanted your reality to be jetting from beach to beach and experiencing prime seats at concerts and sporting events, you had to be born a Kardashian or some sort of minor oil baron. I thought you could not also have a day job in D.C. where you got to work in a nice marble building and tell people whether things are legal or not and whether they can be president, or alive.
I thought if I wanted to ride in helicopters and play golf in exclusive venues, I would have to give up my dream of unlimited power over other people’s lives. But now I see I was wrong. I was also wrong about needing to know all those laws and precedents! Anyway, I would like to be a Supreme Court justice now. My only complaint for the current justices, until I can join them, is that if you are going to take all these vacations at the behest of billionaires, I wish you would not also come back from those vacations and take my rights away. Just stay on vacation, I say. |
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 12, 2023 1:34:41 GMT
He's not the only one and he's talked about this before but the idea of raising the voting age is really alarming. He's willing to grant exemptions if 18-25 year old cans pass a civics test. That sounds a lot like the literacy tests of the Jim Crow south. www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/opinion/vivek-ramaswamy-voting-rights.htmlRamaswamy has elaborated in interviews on his call to raise the voting age for most young people. “I think we have a loss of civic pride in our country. I think people, young people included, do not value a country that they simply inherit,” he told NPR. “I think we value a country that we have a stake in building. And I think that asking a young person, asking any citizen, to know something about the country before voting, I think is a perfectly reasonable condition.”
Demanding a de facto literacy test for most young Americans to vote is not actually a “perfectly reasonable condition.” It is a direct assault on the basic democratic rights of millions of citizens.
To begin, there’s the fundamental fact that no aspect of political equality hinges on the ability to memorize trivia. What’s more, you do not need a formal education of any sort to embrace the duties of citizenship or to understand yourself as a political actor with a right to self-government. You do not even need one to understand your political interests and to work, individually or with others, to pursue them through our democratic institutions.
To think otherwise is to believe that Americans, from the yeoman farmers of the early Republic to the freedmen of the Reconstruction South to the urban industrial workers of the early 20th century, have never been equipped to govern themselves.
There’s also the practical fact that most new requirements for voting in the United States are — in intent and purpose — new restrictions on voting.
Democrats win most younger voters across all racial and ethnic groups. In the 2022 midterm elections, according to the Pew Research Center, 68 percent of voters under 30 backed Democrats compared with 31 percent for Republicans. And soon, young people will account for a majority of potential voters in the country.
Rather than try to appeal to or persuade this bloc, Ramaswamy’s proposal is to remove the vast majority from the electorate altogether.
In many ways, big and small, the Republican Party has turned against the bedrock republican principles of majority rule and popular sovereignty. We see it in a governor removing a duly elected official because he disagrees with the views she represents, a state legislature gerrymandering itself into a permanent majority regardless of where the votes fall, an entire state Republican Party trying (and failing) to change the rules of constitutional amendment to keep the voters from affirming their rights and a former president who would rather end the American experiment in democracy than accept defeat at the ballot box.
Ramaswamy is playing the same song. There’s almost no one in the Republican Party, at this point, who isn’t.www.npr.org/2023/05/19/1176892623/vivek-ramaswamy-candidate-president-2024And how many congressmen could pass this test. I would say a fair amount of them would fail as is evident from some of their ignorant comments lately. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 12, 2023 1:35:39 GMT
Shocker - Republicans that demanded a special counsel to investigate Hunter Biden are still not satisfied. Classic example of moving the goal posts. www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/11/gop-hunter-biden-special-counsel/Republicans who demanded special counsel to investigate Hunter Biden aren’t satisfied
Several GOP lawmakers contend that Trump appointee David Weiss isn’t the right candidate for the job
For months, many Republicans called for a special counsel to investigate Hunter Biden. But now that the Department of Justice has designated U.S. Attorney David Weiss of Delaware to the role, several conservatives are complaining about the appointment.
In 2022, a long list of House and Senate Republicans issued letters calling on the Justice Department to designate a special counsel.
House Republicans are accusing Garland of trying to thwart congressional investigations into the Biden family and say that Weiss isn’t the right person to serve as special counsel.
“David Weiss can’t be trusted and this is just a new way to whitewash the Biden family’s corruption. Weiss has already signed off on a sweetheart plea deal that was so awful and unfair that a federal judge rejected it,” Russell Dye, a spokesperson for House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), said in a statement.
Rep. Greg Murphy (N.C.), one of the signatories to House Republicans’ letter tweeted, “Weiss has already destroyed the credibility of the investigation into Hunter Biden and now he’s being elevated to Special Counsel. What could go wrong?”
Most Republican presidential candidates have remained skeptical, at best, over whether Weiss’s appointment will lead to what they say is an appropriate form of accountability for the president’s son.
Former vice president Mike Pence was the only GOP candidate who seemed to plainly welcome the move.
“I think it’s about time that we saw the appointment of a special counsel to get to the bottom of not only what Hunter Biden was doing but what the Biden family was doing,” Pence said on the campaign trail in Iowa. “The American people deserve answers and I welcome the appointment.” |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 12, 2023 1:38:20 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 12, 2023 1:40:08 GMT
And this is exactly why Ramaswamy and others are talking about raising the voting age
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Post by Lurkingpea on Aug 12, 2023 2:12:01 GMT
He's not the only one and he's talked about this before but the idea of raising the voting age is really alarming. He's willing to grant exemptions if 18-25 year old cans pass a civics test. That sounds a lot like the literacy tests of the Jim Crow south. www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/opinion/vivek-ramaswamy-voting-rights.htmlRamaswamy has elaborated in interviews on his call to raise the voting age for most young people. “I think we have a loss of civic pride in our country. I think people, young people included, do not value a country that they simply inherit,” he told NPR. “I think we value a country that we have a stake in building. And I think that asking a young person, asking any citizen, to know something about the country before voting, I think is a perfectly reasonable condition.”
Demanding a de facto literacy test for most young Americans to vote is not actually a “perfectly reasonable condition.” It is a direct assault on the basic democratic rights of millions of citizens.
To begin, there’s the fundamental fact that no aspect of political equality hinges on the ability to memorize trivia. What’s more, you do not need a formal education of any sort to embrace the duties of citizenship or to understand yourself as a political actor with a right to self-government. You do not even need one to understand your political interests and to work, individually or with others, to pursue them through our democratic institutions.
To think otherwise is to believe that Americans, from the yeoman farmers of the early Republic to the freedmen of the Reconstruction South to the urban industrial workers of the early 20th century, have never been equipped to govern themselves.
There’s also the practical fact that most new requirements for voting in the United States are — in intent and purpose — new restrictions on voting.
Democrats win most younger voters across all racial and ethnic groups. In the 2022 midterm elections, according to the Pew Research Center, 68 percent of voters under 30 backed Democrats compared with 31 percent for Republicans. And soon, young people will account for a majority of potential voters in the country.
Rather than try to appeal to or persuade this bloc, Ramaswamy’s proposal is to remove the vast majority from the electorate altogether.
In many ways, big and small, the Republican Party has turned against the bedrock republican principles of majority rule and popular sovereignty. We see it in a governor removing a duly elected official because he disagrees with the views she represents, a state legislature gerrymandering itself into a permanent majority regardless of where the votes fall, an entire state Republican Party trying (and failing) to change the rules of constitutional amendment to keep the voters from affirming their rights and a former president who would rather end the American experiment in democracy than accept defeat at the ballot box.
Ramaswamy is playing the same song. There’s almost no one in the Republican Party, at this point, who isn’t.www.npr.org/2023/05/19/1176892623/vivek-ramaswamy-candidate-president-2024I wonder how many Trump supporters and Republican politicians could actually pass a civics test themselves. Aside from the fact I bet many couldn’t pass the tests themselves , I agree it reeks of literacy tests and is simply not ok. Clearly Republicans are getting scared that people are waking up to the fact that they are the party of privilege and do not have citizens best interests at heart. They are scared because the younger generation is working hard to make sure all humans have rights. Not just the straight white rich ones. |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 12, 2023 2:14:41 GMT
I don’t know who she is but I like her… 😀
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 12, 2023 3:15:20 GMT
Then there is this…
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 12, 2023 3:56:01 GMT
Donald Trump late Friday night denied that he appointed the man now serving as special counsel in the Hunter Biden case, despite the fact that he was assigned during Trump's own administration. www.rawstory.com/trump-slams-trump-appointed-special-counsel/
But wikipedia says different....
David Charles Weiss (born 1956) is an American attorney. He was nominated by Donald Trump to be the United States Attorney for the United States District Court for the District of Delaware, and has served in that office since February 22, 2018.[1]
Oops, sorry... |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 12, 2023 3:57:53 GMT
Only the best for TFG!! Former Donald Trump physician and current Rep. Ronny Jackson (R-Texas) threatened a state trooper amid an altercation with authorities at a rodeo last month, The Dallas Morning News reports, citing a sheriff’s incident report. Jackson threatened to beat the state trooper and “bury” a West Texas sheriff in the next election after deputies pushed him to the ground and handcuffed him in the July 29 incident, authorities said according to the report. The incident occurred in White Deer, around 40 miles northeast of Amarillo. Jackson previously said he was trying to help a teenager experiencing a seizure at the time of the incident and claimed to be the victim of an overzealous law enforcement response. But Carson County Sheriff Tam Terry’s report paints a very different picture, describing the retired rear admiral as being confrontational and uncooperative during the incident. *** Deputies asked Jackson to step back at least four times before detaining him so emergency responders could render aid to the girl, the report said. Chief Deputy Sheriff JC Blackburn said Jackson continued “screaming profanity about the trooper” even after being released from handcuffs, the report said. “I physically had to hold Congressman Jackson back from going towards Trooper Young,” Blackburn said. www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-news-2663415969/ |
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Post by morecowbell on Aug 12, 2023 4:06:25 GMT
He's not the only one and he's talked about this before but the idea of raising the voting age is really alarming. He's willing to grant exemptions if 18-25 year old cans pass a civics test. That sounds a lot like the literacy tests of the Jim Crow south. Except it has nothing to do with race. I don't think it's something he could get done, or even should get done, but it has exactly nothing to do with race. It's not moving the goal posts at all. When they have witnesses testifying under oath that Weiss told them "he did not have the authority to do" what needed to be done. Along with documented evidence and 5 other people corroborating the dated written evidence, that he said that. Then, publicly Weiss' story changed. It's not moving the goal posts to not want that clearly untrustworthy individual to do this investigation. Not even a little bit. |
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Post by hop2 on Aug 12, 2023 12:35:24 GMT
If passing a civics test is a requirement to vote then EVERYONE should have to pass it not just under 25. And I’ll throw in a renewal every 4 years too. Why not. My boomer sister seems to have forgotten ALL the civics we learned in school because it’s not on faux news daily.
IF we are giving exceptions for military & first responders why not for teachers & social workers or social service volunteers.
Additionally let’s add NO ONE of any party or independent can run for office without also fulfilling these all requirements. Definitely a renewal on that, maybe annually from the likes of what Ive seen lately in DC. Want to make sure my senator is cognitive.
Nothing says elitism like rules for thee but not for me.
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Oh wait, can’t do that, too many GOP voters might not understand basic civics or at least most of the ones that have been on TV in the last 4 years don’t
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 12, 2023 18:52:00 GMT
A little bit refreshing from Iowa!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 12, 2023 19:02:19 GMT
Bundy arrested at football fundraiser. Without a fight and NO gunfire!! Far-right activist Ammon Bundy was reportedly arrested at a high school football fundraiser on Saturday. Bundy, who was slapped with 8-figure damages by a jury in July in a defamation trial brought by an Idaho hospital he harassed, was arrested on a contempt charge at an event for Emmett High School football. He was arrested on a warrant for contempt charges during a legal battle with St. Luke's Health System, KTVB reported. "Records at the Gem County Jail show that he was arrested for a contempt charge out of Ada County. He will have an option of bonding out at a $10,000 bond," the outlet reported on Saturday. "If he does not bond out, he will be held in the jail over the weekend, speak with a judge Monday morning and then be transported to the Ada County Jail within 24-48 hours of when they schedule a hearing." www.rawstory.com/ammon-bundy-arrested-watch/ |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 12, 2023 19:44:06 GMT
Seriously?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 12, 2023 20:21:00 GMT
Of course he knows where all the corruption is, he is responsible for it!!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 12, 2023 21:18:40 GMT
DeSantis spent almost $100,000 to get support from an evangelical christian pastor and his flock.. DeSantis "has spent far more than any rival on courting an influential Christian conservative leader and his following in the key early voting state of Iowa," Reuters reported on Saturday. The DeSantis campaign, a super PAC linked to him and a nonprofit group supporting him together paid $95,000 in recent months to the Family Leader Foundation, an Iowa-based nonprofit led by evangelical leader Bob Vander Plaats, according to campaign finance reports and a document prepared by an Iowa state lawmaker who was helping the Vander Plaats organization raise money for a July 14 presidential candidate forum," according to Reuters. Here's what DeSantis purportedly bought for that figure. "For that money, DeSantis and supporting groups got three pages of advertisements in a booklet distributed at the July forum attended by 2,000 Christian conservatives, and tickets to the summit, lunch and an after-dinner event," Reuters reported. "But the real value may be more in building a relationship with Vander Plaats, whose endorsement is coveted in the early-voting state, said three campaign finance experts and an academic who studies Iowa campaign spending." www.rawstory.com/team-desantis-courting-religious-figure/ |
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 12, 2023 21:35:06 GMT
He's not the only one and he's talked about this before but the idea of raising the voting age is really alarming. He's willing to grant exemptions if 18-25 year old cans pass a civics test. That sounds a lot like the literacy tests of the Jim Crow south. www.nytimes.com/2023/08/11/opinion/vivek-ramaswamy-voting-rights.htmlRamaswamy has elaborated in interviews on his call to raise the voting age for most young people. “I think we have a loss of civic pride in our country. I think people, young people included, do not value a country that they simply inherit,” he told NPR. “I think we value a country that we have a stake in building. And I think that asking a young person, asking any citizen, to know something about the country before voting, I think is a perfectly reasonable condition.”
Demanding a de facto literacy test for most young Americans to vote is not actually a “perfectly reasonable condition.” It is a direct assault on the basic democratic rights of millions of citizens.
To begin, there’s the fundamental fact that no aspect of political equality hinges on the ability to memorize trivia. What’s more, you do not need a formal education of any sort to embrace the duties of citizenship or to understand yourself as a political actor with a right to self-government. You do not even need one to understand your political interests and to work, individually or with others, to pursue them through our democratic institutions.
To think otherwise is to believe that Americans, from the yeoman farmers of the early Republic to the freedmen of the Reconstruction South to the urban industrial workers of the early 20th century, have never been equipped to govern themselves.
There’s also the practical fact that most new requirements for voting in the United States are — in intent and purpose — new restrictions on voting.
Democrats win most younger voters across all racial and ethnic groups. In the 2022 midterm elections, according to the Pew Research Center, 68 percent of voters under 30 backed Democrats compared with 31 percent for Republicans. And soon, young people will account for a majority of potential voters in the country.
Rather than try to appeal to or persuade this bloc, Ramaswamy’s proposal is to remove the vast majority from the electorate altogether.
In many ways, big and small, the Republican Party has turned against the bedrock republican principles of majority rule and popular sovereignty. We see it in a governor removing a duly elected official because he disagrees with the views she represents, a state legislature gerrymandering itself into a permanent majority regardless of where the votes fall, an entire state Republican Party trying (and failing) to change the rules of constitutional amendment to keep the voters from affirming their rights and a former president who would rather end the American experiment in democracy than accept defeat at the ballot box.
Ramaswamy is playing the same song. There’s almost no one in the Republican Party, at this point, who isn’t.www.npr.org/2023/05/19/1176892623/vivek-ramaswamy-candidate-president-2024You’re absolutely correct. The proposal resembles literacy tests. That’s precisely why Jamelle Bouie described it as a “de facto literacy test.” He further writes, “We also can’t forget the actual literacy tests, introduced at the turn of the 20th century, that were designed to keep as many immigrants, Black Americans and laboring people from the polls as possible. The point was to limit, as much as possible, the political power of groups that might challenge the interests of those in power, from industrial barons in the North to large landowners in the South.” The point Bouie is making is that tests implemented in the past (i.e., literacy tests for black people and others), and tests Ramaswamy may want to implement in the future (i.e., civics tests for young people) all have one purpose: Disenfranchisement. THAT is the problematic issue. |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 12, 2023 22:57:35 GMT
This guy is going to drag us into a war..
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 12, 2023 22:59:47 GMT
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