lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 28, 2023 16:49:10 GMT
Well, if you think about it, who would be Meadows' witness anyway? Everyone else who knew about his participation are defendants in the GA RICO case! They're concerned abut saving their own backsides, not Meadows'.
He's been pretending the Hatch Act doesn’t exist because it’s the greatest impediment to his goal of removal to federal court. But, whether he likes it or not, it will be used against him. His end goal in removal, of course, is to ultimately have the case against him dismissed.
Here’s the rub for him: (1) In his motion to dismiss, he admitted his activities as stated in Willis' indictment were political in nature (activities expressly forbidden by the Hatch Act); and (2) In his motion to remove (to federal court), he says his actions were part of this duties as chief of staff. #1 negates #2 because #1 is unlawful for a federal official, and he can’t claim he’s immunized by the Supremacy Clause when his acts were illegal to begin with.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 28, 2023 17:07:55 GMT
Yup, years ago I got the 'Hatch Act' lecture... to the point of not even talking on the 'business' phone about anything political .. it easier now to have separate phones, not so much years ago when they all had to be plugged it ..
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Post by Gem Girl on Aug 28, 2023 18:20:01 GMT
lizacreates Yes, the "talking legal heads" on the news networks said he can't have it both ways, because if he was working as a Federal Employee while doing those things in GA, he was then violating the Hatch Act. Must have been some interesting discussions with his counsel.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 28, 2023 19:01:39 GMT
Meadows implicated TFG!!! Testifying under oath, Meadows explained that the phone call he set up between Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger was about Trump hoping to figure out “a less-litigious way of resolving” his election concerns, CNN reported. Trump lost over 60 cases in court protesting elections across the country. Litigation wasn't successful for his efforts, so he searched for a "less-litigious" way of "resolving" his loss and turning it into a win. Willis’ prosecutors have repeatedly highlighted that Meadows included outside, pro-Trump lawyers on that call – people who were not federal employees and didn’t work at the Department of Justice, for instance," said CNN. There were multiple questions by prosecutors wondering why Meadows, as a federal employee was setting up campaign calls for Trump.Meadows grew somewhat exasperated as the prosecutor questioned why his role would include setting up a call to settle private litigation," said CNN. "Meadows pointed to Trump’s needs as he perceived them." “I dealt with the president’s personal position on a number of things. It’s still a part of my job to make sure the president is safe and secure and able to perform his job,” Meadows testified. “Serving the president of the United States is what I do, to be clear.”It's unclear what a phone call had to do with Secret Service protection or security.Legal analysts have spent most of the morning questioning how smart it was for Meadows to take the stand in the hearing. Meadows went on to tell the court that he couldn't recall who was on the call with Raffensperger, when Cleta Mitchell, Kurt Hilbert, and Alex Kaufman were all present and had participated in a campaign lawsuit against Raffensperger," as the Post said. Goodman explained: "I think he's toast." www.rawstory.com/mark-meadows-trump-georgia-hearing/
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 28, 2023 21:01:03 GMT
lizacreates Yes, the "talking legal heads" on the news networks said he can't have it both ways, because if he was working as a Federal Employee while doing those things in GA, he was then violating the Hatch Act. Must have been some interesting discussions with his counsel. I just got home and now catching up with what’s being reported. It seems he’s saying that it was hard to tell what was political and what wasn’t because they were extremely busy days. What? I could be wrong, but this was my interpretation (this is why I hate that federal courts bar cameras; it helps a lot if one can watch the actual proceedings). How can he not tell? When he was sent to Georgia to observe an election audit, he couldn’t tell that was political? When he was on the phone with Trump, Raffensperger, etc, and on another occasion offering financial assistance from the Trump campaign so GA could hurry up verifying of votes…he couldn’t tell those were political? He’s not that stupid. He knows full well those were not part of his chief of staff (official) duties because the president has no role in the administration of an election!
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Post by Gem Girl on Aug 28, 2023 21:01:20 GMT
LOL TFG wants to appeal the setting of the trial date.
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 28, 2023 21:09:38 GMT
Gaetz wants to censure Judge Chutkan for setting the DC trial date for Mar 4th, claims she is political.. Chutkan's ruling will force Trump to stand trial in at least three separate criminal cases during one of the most crucial periods in the GOP nominating process. Among those crying foul was Florida GOP Matt Gaetz, who took to X (former known as Twitter) and called Chutkan a "political operative in a robe.""We should set her censure for a vote ASAP to expose this sham and restore our republic," Gaetz wrote. www.rawstory.com/judge-tanya-chutkan-2664550398/Oh, Gaetz and his whiny ass. There’s no problem with a March 4 DC trial. The GA case won’t proceed to trial on March 4 because that’s just highly unlikely. It hasn’t been scheduled yet; it was merely a proposed date. Alvin Bragg’s trial for March 25 can be postponed as Bragg already said he will yield to the federal cases, so even if DC takes six to eight weeks, there’s no overlap. Gaetz is such a drama queen. It’s not the court’s fault that his party’s leader is a career criminal. He just wants new material to bitch about the next time he’s on Newsmax.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 28, 2023 21:49:31 GMT
All I can think is how entitled Gaetz is since he was not charged in the alleged minor sex case ..
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 28, 2023 22:44:30 GMT
Yup this guy referred to the women as “low information Chardonnay sippers”. From Decoding Fox News.. “Ned Ryun makes the brilliant choice of referring to suburban women as "low information Chardonnay drinkers." It's a great idea since suburban women clearly have no influence in presidential elections. Keep calling them stupid! That will turn them around for Trump!” x.com/projectlincoln/status/1696290938694291951?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw
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Post by refugeepea on Aug 28, 2023 23:06:56 GMT
These last 2 lines are what I was responding to. I erred in the placement of my response. Again, I apologize. I am only human and meant no affront. Sorry, I was using caps so the word candidate stood out more. I didn't mean to come across as rude. I forgot that means yelling.
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Post by refugeepea on Aug 28, 2023 23:11:37 GMT
refugeepea the fake electors did not work for the federal government in any way. Not covered by the Hatch Act. Agreed Meadows and Clark were employed by the federal government covered by the Hatch Act, but certainly not acting in the scope of their job... I don't think I read your previous post very well. Sorry.
I don't think any of the above are covered by the Hatch Act. They have emails and texts from Meadows saying "on behalf of the campaign", "on behalf of candidate Trump" I think there was a letter sent as well. I'm not sure about Clark.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2023 0:00:05 GMT
Meadows and Clark were FEDERAL employees doing campaign work, and yes violated the Hatch Act.
The fake electors were not federal employees, in general not covered by the Hatch Act. Also because they were not federal employees, TFG was not their boss and should not be allowed to get their cases switched to the federal courts.
ETA: I once was seeking a job at the unemployment office. I would have been subject to the Hatch Act because most of their funding, at the time, was federal dollars.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 29, 2023 2:22:07 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 29, 2023 16:11:45 GMT
Judge Robert McBurney has ruled that the report that was produced by a special grand jury that led to the indictments will be released...
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Post by Gem Girl on Aug 29, 2023 19:27:36 GMT
These last 2 lines are what I was responding to. I erred in the placement of my response. Again, I apologize. I am only human and meant no affront. Sorry, I was using caps so the word candidate stood out more. I didn't mean to come across as rude. I forgot that means yelling. You and I are fine, but thanks for the apology. Now, the caps below are "yelling," but I will give her benefit of the doubt & assume she was having a bad day. Aug 27, 2023 at 3:37pm revirdsuba99 said: I did respond to nor did I post the second link. My comments were about the THREE FAKE ELECTORS!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 30, 2023 4:06:25 GMT
Finally found the piece on Gingrich.. Newt Gingrich testified to Jack Smith's grand jury amid suspicion of involvement with fake electorsMatthew Chapman June 8, 2023, 7:59 PM ET Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA), a close ally of former President Donald Trump, reportedly testified before special counsel Jack Smith's grand jury investigating the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. This comes after Gingrich was also targeted for testimony in the election interference probe going on in Georgia — and he further came under fire for appearing to advocate violence in response to the FBI's search for classified documents at Trump's Mar-a-Lago country club. www.rawstory.com/newt-gingrich-2661142873/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 30, 2023 21:33:10 GMT
Another GOP member of Georgia leadership is going against TFG. Republican officials in Georgia have been threatening to punish or remove Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis over the election racketeering charges she brought against former President Donald Trump and 18 of his allies, including lawyers and local Republican operatives. But according to Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter Greg Bluestein, state House Speaker Jon Burns has thrown cold water on the idea of impeaching her or defunding her office."As Hurricane Idalia bears down on our great state today ... we continue to have a few members of the General Assembly making misleading or false claims about the General Assembly's lawful powers regarding an ongoing criminal case before our Judiciary," said Burns in a statement. "A select few are calling to defund a duly-elected district attorney of this state and her office in an attempt to interfere with the criminal justice system. Regardless of your views of this case, removing this funding would also have the unintended consequence of causing a delay or complete lack of prosecution of other serious offenses like murder, rape, armed robbery, gang prosecution, battery etc." Furthermore, Burns added, "Targeting one specific DA in this manner certainly flaunts the idea of separation of powers, if not outright violates it." This comes as even Republicans who support ousting or investigating Willis are divided and arguing with each other over how to do it. State Senate Majority Leader Steve Gooch has called for an investigation into Willis, but is pushing back on far-right lawmaker Colton Moore's demand to call a special session to impeach her, saying the votes aren't there for it. Moore has fired back, calling Republicans critical of his plan "buzzard cowards." *** "First, it was Raffensperger, Kemp, Geoff Duncan, and the late David Ralston," Rubin wrote Wednesday. "Now add Jon Burns to the list of otherwise very conservative GA GOP leaders who don’t mind antagonizing Trump." www.rawstory.com/gop-georgia-trump/
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 30, 2023 21:48:35 GMT
Another GOP member of Georgia leadership is going against TFG. Republican officials in Georgia have been threatening to punish or remove Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis over the election racketeering charges she brought against former President Donald Trump and 18 of his allies, including lawyers and local Republican operatives. But according to Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter Greg Bluestein, state House Speaker Jon Burns has thrown cold water on the idea of impeaching her or defunding her office."As Hurricane Idalia bears down on our great state today ... we continue to have a few members of the General Assembly making misleading or false claims about the General Assembly's lawful powers regarding an ongoing criminal case before our Judiciary," said Burns in a statement. "A select few are calling to defund a duly-elected district attorney of this state and her office in an attempt to interfere with the criminal justice system. Regardless of your views of this case, removing this funding would also have the unintended consequence of causing a delay or complete lack of prosecution of other serious offenses like murder, rape, armed robbery, gang prosecution, battery etc." Furthermore, Burns added, "Targeting one specific DA in this manner certainly flaunts the idea of separation of powers, if not outright violates it." This comes as even Republicans who support ousting or investigating Willis are divided and arguing with each other over how to do it. State Senate Majority Leader Steve Gooch has called for an investigation into Willis, but is pushing back on far-right lawmaker Colton Moore's demand to call a special session to impeach her, saying the votes aren't there for it. Moore has fired back, calling Republicans critical of his plan "buzzard cowards." *** "First, it was Raffensperger, Kemp, Geoff Duncan, and the late David Ralston," Rubin wrote Wednesday. "Now add Jon Burns to the list of otherwise very conservative GA GOP leaders who don’t mind antagonizing Trump." www.rawstory.com/gop-georgia-trump/And my understanding is they don’t have the votes. They’ll need Ds and what D would go for that harebrained idea? Meanwhile, the clown show known as the House GOP-controlled Judiciary Committee continues to attack Fani Willis and Jordan is demanding documents from her. Jimmy the Whiz who has no oversight authority over a local DA, is again running interference for Trump because he’s convinced that’s his day job. He apparently conjured up some “legislative purposes” for sticking his nose into a state prosecution. Unless the Constitution says otherwise, saving Trump’s ass is not a legitimate legislative purpose, no matter how much he dresses it up. This will be a repeat of the Bragg imbroglio. Both sides will again end up suing each other. Sigh. Jordan can’t stop the GA prosecution any more than he can the NY one. This is all theater for the MAGA crowd. Willis is being attacked left and right, but she remains unfazed and is ready for Cheesebro’s demanded “speedy trial.” In fact, she said bring them all on the same date. Read that Kraken lawyer Sidney Powell wants a speedy trial, too. More lol. I’m sure Chesebro will be uber-delighted to have a lunatic like her as co-defendant come Oct 23 unless they retract their demand. That will be televised so I’m looking forward to that one because I’ll bet it’ll be a doozy. (It’d be great if all defendants get tried then, but I don’t see that happening at all.)
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 30, 2023 21:57:22 GMT
More news on Sidney Powell who is now requesting severance from all the others.. Katie Phang her motion is absurd and we all should read it. Phang described the motion as “absurd.” Her motion is so worth the read bc it’s so absurd: she claims she’s only being charged with RICO because she attended a press conference exercising her First Amendment right to speak on a matter of great public interest…," Phang said in a social media post. Phang added that Powell “is very keen to disassociate herself from the other defendants and claims ‘she had no contact with most of her purported conspirators, and rarely agreed with those she knew or spoke with.’"“She is asking the Court to grant her an evidentiary hearing on her motion, and to allow for her to be tried separately from the co-defendants in this case.” Powell in court filings asserts that “Contrary to widely publicized false statements in the media, Sidney Powell did not represent President Trump or the Trump campaign. She had no engagement agreement with either. She appears on no pleadings for Trump or the Campaign. She appeared in no courtrooms or hearings for Trump or the Campaign. She had no contact with most of her purported conspirators and rarely agreed with those she knew or spoke with." The filing continues: “It cannot be disputed that Ms. Powell went her own way following the election, and she never reached an agreement on a course of action with any indicted or unindicted coconspirator—and certainly not any 3 illegal course of action. She was not part of any group ‘associated in fact,’ or an “ongoing organization” that functioned as a ‘continuing unit’ for any purpose. Ind. Count I, ‘The Enterprise.’” www.rawstory.com/sidney-powell-2664667093/lizacreatesGuess she was hanging out in the WH for the great coffee!!
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lizacreates
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 30, 2023 22:10:24 GMT
Like I said: lunatic. She engineered the breach of the voting machines in Coffee County. And Trump knew about that plan because it was proposed during the December Oval Office meeting. For heaven’s sake, the analysts she hired were videotaped during the breach! I don’t know where she got her law degree from, but that’s conspiracy.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 30, 2023 23:45:06 GMT
I wonder about several of the others and where they got their law degrees, or at least if they slept through the ethics classes. However we have judges who lack basic ethics too!
Funny, Eastman clerked for Thomas. Who corrupted who? Or did they share that learning experience?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 31, 2023 15:23:58 GMT
TFG will not appear at his arraignment in the Georgia case on Sept 6th. He has pleaded not guilty!
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 31, 2023 18:15:07 GMT
Anyone surprised?
Mueller, She wrote…
”NEW: Trump has filed to sever his case from the other 18 defendants. They don't have enough time to prepare for an October 23rd trial date.”
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 31, 2023 19:11:51 GMT
The Recount….
“ Get your 🍿: All court proceedings in Donald Trump's Georgia election interference case will be livestreamed and televised.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 31, 2023 19:25:45 GMT
Anyone surprised? Mueller, She wrote… ”NEW: Trump has filed to sever his case from the other 18 defendants. They don't have enough time to prepare for an October 23rd trial date.” I have heard and read that TFG is requesting to sever his case from those who have requested a speedy trial, says he cannot be ready so quickly... Although I am sure he would them ALL done before he faces the jury..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 31, 2023 19:30:09 GMT
Found it... Donald Trump on Thursday moved to have his Georgia election racketeering case severed from his co-defendants who are seeking a speedy trial, according to court documents obtained by Politico’s Kyle Cheney. Trump claimed being jointly tried would, "Violate his rights to a fair trial,” Cheney reported on his social media account. *** Attorneys representing Trump in the motion to sever the case argued in Thursday’s filing that the former president will not have enough time to prepare for the Oct. 23 date set for co-defendant Kenneth Chesebro. www.rawstory.com/trump-news-2664711495/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 1, 2023 20:59:16 GMT
Sidney Powell has joined Chesebro to be provided the names of the listed unindicted co-conspirators and for their lawyers to be allowed to interview the grand jury members..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 1, 2023 23:10:15 GMT
Chesebro has filed with the court, he does not want to go to trial with the Kraken, Sidney Powell.. And the list is long!!! Attorney Ken Chesebro, who was indicted last month by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis in a sprawling racketeering case revolving around his efforts to keep former President Donald Trump in power, seemingly wants nothing to do with fellow former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell. In a new court filing flagged by Politico's Kyle Cheney, Chesebro made the case that he should not be tried alongside Powell, whose debunked conspiracy theories about Dominion Voting Systems have sparked record-breaking defamation settlements. To do this, Chesebro compiled a lengthy list of all the ways that he has nothing to do with Powell. www.rawstory.com/ken-chesebro/
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 3, 2023 5:22:47 GMT
Interesting. Meadows body language... Body language expert Dr. Jack Brown noted that Meadows' attorney "effectively says his client needs pronoun training." "Earlier this week, Mark Meadows attorney's [sic] stated multiple times that Meadows over-uses the word 'we,'" he said. He added that the measure was taken "to nullify obvious evidence of Meadows' participation in attempts to overthrow the Georgia election." Brown goes on to say that, by drawing attention to this issue in Meadows' testimony, his legal team is actually reinforcing the idea that he will ultimately be found guilty. "In his efforts to try to distance his client from the rest of the Trump gang, his tactic had the opposite effect," Brown wrote. "Meadows' use of the word 'we' is screaming his guilt."Conservative attorney and anti-Trump activist George Conway took notice of the "pronoun training" comment, and wrote the following: "Hello, it’s so nice to meet you. Our name is A. Rico Conspiracy and our pronouns are we/us/our.”www.rawstory.com/meadows-screaming-guilty/
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Post by hop2 on Sept 3, 2023 11:17:05 GMT
Sidney Powell has joined Chesebro to be provided the names of the listed unindicted co-conspirators and for their lawyers to be allowed to interview the grand jury members.. This is why no one wants to do grand jury. You’ve taken all this time off work and done your civic duty and now you get to take more time off work to be grilled by aggressive asshole lawyers. All of that on top of death threats from wackos. As a juror your lawyer grilling the grand jury would go several steps to convincing me if your guilt. Especially in a RICO case, you know where you intimidate people. ( Maybe that comes because I have been deposed as a form of intimidation so I recognize what they want to do ) It *IS* like a mob case thru & thru
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