Trump indictment 4.0

I have been having a bit of enjoyment watching all the variations on "The Devil Went Down To Georgia" that are on tiktok today. There are some very creative, funny and quick witted people.

That said, I notice a distinct lack of response from our conservative Refupeas. Why the crickets?

I’m sure they’re busy swallowing all the lies about this being a witch hunt and no big deal and so forth. Willing dupes, one and all.

This lays out the indictment in detail and the steps that all of the defendants took to overturn the results of the election and keep Trump in power. Too long to post here, but the link has all of the details.



www.meidastouch.com/news/geogia-trump-indictment

In the Trump RICO indictment, he is charged with organizing a criminal conspiracy to attempt to overturn the 2020 election. His co-defendants are charged with joining that conspiracy and committing unlawful acts to accomplish the goal. These acts included false statements and perjury, impersonating public officials, forgery, filing false documents, computer theft and hacking, fraud, theft of documents, and tampering with witnesses.

The bottom line is that the proof in this case is overwhelming. The fact that this trial is going to be public and televised will be extremely valuable. The American public can see and hear and all facts, and don't have to rely on media filters. The evidence in this case is devastating for Trump and his co-conspirators. I fully expect many of them to cut deals to testify against Trump, where even more incriminating evidence will come to light.

A Republican perspective on Trump's indictment

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/15/geoff-duncan-trump-georgia-indictment-turning-point/

On Monday morning, my son alerted me that Donald Trump had just misspelled my name on his latest scorched-earth post on social media. The former president urged me not to testify before the Fulton County grand jury in the state’s 2020 election probe. He lobbed some insults my way, and then, in classic Trump fashion, misspelled my name. Ironically, he seems to have conflated me with Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-S.C.), a reliable Trump ally and member of the House Freedom Caucus.

For the Republican Party, and myself, the playbook was familiar. In the aftermath of the 2020 election, I earned Trump’s wrath for refusing to go along with his cockamamie schemes to overturn the election he lost because of his own lack of effort. Most of the GOP in my home state of Georgia went along for Trump’s now potentially felonious ride.

Now, that bill is coming due — not just for Trump and the 18 others who received indictments Monday night, but for Republicans everywhere.

Wherever one falls on the ideological spectrum, it is sad to see the presidency of the United States reduced to such a circus. Rather than history repeating itself on an endless loop, I am hopeful that this latest chapter can be a pivot point for the Republican Party. If it’s not, we only have ourselves to blame for our electoral losses.

Because I wasn’t clear with my January 6th predictions and instead just left the country let me be really clear this time for I told you so sake…

Black Women are always tasked with cleaning shit up. But whenever it’s time to give a dark skinned woman an opportunity to ACTUALLY lead we instead elect a man whose brain is FOR SURE mush. Georgia is really showing us this. Again.

Agree with you on black women are always tasked with cleaning shit up and should/could/would, do anything to get shit done.  If you mean dump, then yes, his brain is BEYOND FOR SURE mush and many other things, but if Biden, his brain is not mush and will get us through the next four years.

We need strong hope that the courts do their job!

The problem still exists that his words do motivate his followers to take actions at our expense. They may not be able to be stopped if he is allowed to continue for too long.

Rouge! Ha

One of my FB friends from high school just posted they were embarrassed because they still had their third indictment decorations still up.

I really liked the comment because at least half or more of my high school FB friends (who have public opinions on politics) are pro Trump.

Gingrich et al are busy attempting to change the Georgia Constitution Pardon laws to make it possible to pardon TFG before he even goes to trial. Guess they assume he is guilty!!


After a fourth indictment was handed down on Monday night, legal analysts began explaining how the former president can't be pardoned if he is found guilty. Only governors can pardon state charges but, in Georgia, not even that is possible.
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"Dastardly Stalinist Democrats have made it illegal to watch television, leading the country 'towards the greatest constitutional crisis since the 1850s or a potential 'civil war' unless Georgia’s legislature overhauls state law to allow a future president to pardon Donald Trump," was the Daily Beast summarizing of what conservative commentators were saying.

“Stalin would be proud” raged Fox host Mark Levine on Monday. Levine was among the Fox hosts that were exchanging emails with John Eastman, who is also charged with Trump.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich told Fox that, “We are drifting towards the greatest constitutional crisis since the 1850s,” and the charges against Trump are, “A desperate last ditch effort by a corrupt machine to destroy their most dangerous opponent.”

Other allies are repeating one of his defenses – that he has a First Amendment right to say whatever he wants to lawmakers about changing election results.

Liz Wheeler, who previously worked at One America News Network, complained, “Apparently illegal in America now: Telling people to watch TV, Asking for phone numbers, Renting rooms at the Capitol, Advocating for signature verification, and Tweets.”

“It’s not just Trump they’re coming after,” Wheeler wrote. “They’re coming next for our free speech if we dare dissent.”

But it was Fox guests Mike Davis and Gingrich that began advocating for lawmakers to step in to grant Trump a pardon, apparently already presuming a conviction is coming.

“I think this is so dangerous to the very survival of the republic that it has to be stopped,” Gingrich said.

“Under the Georgia law, there is a statute that limits the Republican governor’s ability to pardon, and I think that the legislature in Georgia needs to amend that statute and give Governor Kemp the ability to pardon in this situation because this is clear election interference,” Davis said.

“It is clear Democrat lawfare by Democrat prosecutors where they are trying to have Democrat prosecutors, Democrat judges and Democrat juries and Democrat hellholes decide the next presidential election instead of the American people," he also said.

www.rawstory.com/trump-pardon-in-georgia/

Also MTG is openly speculating about VP... Or maybe going for US Senate..

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis on Wednesday issued a request to set former President Donald Trump’s trial date for March 4, 2024, CNN’s Kaitlyn Collins reports on X, the social media site formerly known as Twitter.

The arraignments for all 19 defendants will take place the week of September 5, according to her filing.

He has not paid his lawyers...

Donald Trump's legal advisers listed as unidentified co-conspirators in United States Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith's criminal indictment for the alleged conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election were never paid "despite the fact that their lawsuits and false claims of election interference helped the Trump campaign and allied committees raise $250 million in the weeks following the November vote," CNBC's Brian Schwartz reports.

"Trump has a long history of not paying his bills," Schwarts writes, noting one of the people that he "stiffed" was Rudy Giuliani, the ex-New York City mayor who was Trump's personal defense counsel and a long-time personal friend.

"Trump and Giuliani had a handshake agreement that Giuliani and his team would get paid by the Trump political operation for their post-election work, according to Timothy Parlatore, an attorney for longtime Giuliani ally Bernard Kerik," Schwartz says. "But the Trump campaign and their affiliated committees ultimately did not honor that pledge, according to campaign finance records. The failure to pay Giuliani and his team came up last week in a private interview between prosecutors on special counsel Jack Smith's team and Bernard Kerik, a member of Giuliani's team in late 2020, according to Parlatore."

www.rawstory.com/trump-doesnt-pay-his-bills/

There’ll definitely be many here seeking plea deals. Especially the local ones in GA. Five-year minimum prison time? Lol. They’d be awfully stupid if they’re willing to gamble for Trump. They plead to the lesser charge, agree to testify for the prosecution, they might just get probation. If I had been one of them, I would have hightailed it to the DA’s office the moment it opened the following morning.

Have any shown up? Any word on when Trump will?