pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 16, 2023 22:31:39 GMT
More and more posts about indictment 5 coming from Az!
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Gem Girl
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Post by Gem Girl on Aug 16, 2023 22:50:26 GMT
Serious threats have started... News and MSNBC are reporting that fans of Trump are posting online the addresses of grand jury members whose names were included in the indictment. The grand juror's purported addresses were spotted by Advance Democracy, Inc., a non-partisan research group founded by Daniel J. Jones, a former FBI investigator and staffer for the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence," said the report. Most social media sites have strict rules against doxing, so they are likely cropping up on anonymous message boards, but NBC noted that the network wouldn't reveal where the addresses are being posted.*** These jurors have signed their death warrant by falsely indicting President Trump," one post said on a pro-Trump forum, according to NBC News. www.rawstory.com/trump-jury-2663956110/I briefly turned on MSNBC at 5-ish and wondered why Nicolle Wallace was pale and appeared distraught. I hope that NBC is turning the info over to the authorities, even if they won't reveal it to the public (wisely, so as not to steer other haters to those sites). I wonder if any of these menacing posters really want their children to grow up in the kind of America they are suggesting with their threats. How do they rationalize that a complete group of jurors culled from both parties concluded this, but it's a "false indictment." Amazing. |
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Post by Gem Girl on Aug 16, 2023 22:52:51 GMT
He has not paid his lawyers... Donald Trump's legal advisers listed as unidentified co-conspirators in United States Justice Department special counsel Jack Smith's criminal indictment for the alleged conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election were never paid "despite the fact that their lawsuits and false claims of election interference helped the Trump campaign and allied committees raise $250 million in the weeks following the November vote," CNBC's Brian Schwartz reports. "Trump has a long history of not paying his bills," Schwarts writes, noting one of the people that he "stiffed" was Rudy Giuliani, the ex-New York City mayor who was Trump's personal defense counsel and a long-time personal friend. "Trump and Giuliani had a handshake agreement that Giuliani and his team would get paid by the Trump political operation for their post-election work, according to Timothy Parlatore, an attorney for longtime Giuliani ally Bernard Kerik," Schwartz says. "But the Trump campaign and their affiliated committees ultimately did not honor that pledge, according to campaign finance records. The failure to pay Giuliani and his team came up last week in a private interview between prosecutors on special counsel Jack Smith's team and Bernard Kerik, a member of Giuliani's team in late 2020, according to Parlatore." www.rawstory.com/trump-doesnt-pay-his-bills/TFG will probably rationalize by saying they "didn't do their job" because they didn't get him off. Deadbeat, scofflaw jerk. LOL at Giuliani having a "handshake agreement," when TFG doesn't even honor his written contracts. |
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Post by Gem Girl on Aug 16, 2023 22:56:10 GMT
Another brilliant legal opinion from a Trump attorney on Newsmax. Here's a critical detail that she missed - he is no longer president. www.meidastouch.com/news/bobb-trump-immunityTrump attorney, former OAN host, and RSBN interviewer Christina Bobb offered more brilliant legal analysis on Newsmax tonight, claiming that Trump would easily get the Georgia case thrown out because he has "presidential immunity" for his crimes.Like many of his hires, TFG just liked how she looked on TV. She appears to be more cleavage than cerebrum. |
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Post by Gem Girl on Aug 16, 2023 23:00:41 GMT
Some will try this, but if they were at the time actively trying to overturn the election's results, that doesn't fall within their job descriptions as federal employees. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 17, 2023 2:44:46 GMT
Re Meadows.... did he do it as part of his job Or Did he do it in relation to a candidate.. Would that be offering a bribe? Mark Meadows offered cash from Trump campaign to investigator auditing Georgia's mail-in ballots: indictmentSarah K. Burris August 16, 2023, 2:27 PM ET .... Legal analyst and former federal prosecutor Cynthia Alksne observed the little-known detail on page 45 in the the Fulton County indictment relating to attempts to overturn that 2020 election that was released late Monday. *** On or about the 27th day of December 2020, Mark Randall Meadows sent a text message to Office of the Georgia Secretary of State Chief Investigator Frances Watson that stated in part, "Is there a way to speed up Fulton county (sic) signature verification in order to have results before Jan. 6 if the trump (sic) campaign assist (sic) financially."The conclusion in the indictment says, "This was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy." www.rawstory.com/mark-meadows-georgia-cash/ |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 17, 2023 3:48:10 GMT
I don't know if what Meadows did is illegal, but it sure sounds sketchy.
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 17, 2023 4:35:46 GMT
Don’t disagree…
Jon Cryer…
”It’s infuriating to me that we’ve normalized the idea that Trump will not testify in his trials.
Bill Clinton testified.
Hillary testified for 11 hours.
Just because we already know he’s a lying dickbag doesn’t mean he should get a pass. We should expect it.
And I know Bill’s was for a grand jury, Hillary’s was before congress and Trump’s are criminal and therefore more perilous. I understand his right not to incriminate himself.
But he was president dammit, our expectations should be higher, not lower.“
And no, I’m not saying he should be legally required to testify.
Hillary could’ve ignored her subpoena (like Trump’s cronies), or she could’ve taken the 5th (like Trump). But she didn’t because she knew Americans deserved a full accounting under oath.
And she’s not a coward.
But he’s lowered our standards so completely that his supporters don’t even have to bother defending his silence.“
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 17, 2023 4:42:41 GMT
Unbelievable! If that is what they want to do then I think we should do the same with the attorney investigating Hunter Biden. I’m getting so fucking sick of these people. From CBS News. link” Congressional effort grows to strip funding from special counsel's Trump prosecutions”From the article… Some of former President Donald Trump's allies in Congress are jockeying to find a way to strip funding from special counsel Jack Smith's prosecutions. In a series of new proposals, House Republicans are attempting to prohibit the use of federal money to pay for Smith's investigation and criminal cases against Trump. At least three different efforts are already underway, according to a CBS News review. Though they are unlikely to generate any large number of supporters and are being criticized as political posturing, the proposals could eventually derail fragile negotiations to avoid a government shutdown or emergency funding for natural disaster relief in Hawaii and Vermont. And they could be a wedge issue inside the Republican party on Capitol Hill. Rep. Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida, and Rep. Andy Ogles, Republican of Tennessee, have introduced similar but separate pieces of legislation to deny federal funding for the special counsel. Gaetz's bill, which was introduced two days after Trump announced he'd received a target letter from the special counsel, would prohibit Smith from expending federal funds. Ogles' bill, introduced days after Trump's indictment in Washington, D.C., this month, would deny Jack Smith a federal salary. In a statement to CBS News, Ogles said, "It's well past time that Congress uses its power of the purse to tell Jack Smith 'you're fired.'" The proposals have generated just a handful of co-sponsors so far, but Ogles' bill has gained the support of West Virginia Rep. Alex Mooney, a House Republican who is seeking his party's nomination — and Trump's endorsement — for a West Virginia U.S. Senate seat in 2024. Mooney told CBS News, "I support withholding funding to Jack Smith until the (Justice) Department ceases pushing its blatantly partisan two-tiered system of justice. These disgusting abuses of power will fail, and Donald Trump will be elected again in 2024." A third proposal has surfaced, which could disrupt ongoing negotiations to prevent a government shutdown. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, in a social media post earlier this summer, said she would add language to defund Smith's prosecution to must-pass spending bills. A series of appropriations bills, or a short-term continuing resolution, must pass in both the House and Senate by Sept. 30 to avoid a government shutdown. Greene's proposal, which seems certain to be opposed by Democrats, could force a divisive vote or threaten passage of bills in the House, where Republicans hold a very narrow majority. In her social media post, Greene wrote, "I will not vote for ANY appropriations bill to fund the weaponization of government. I hope every one of my Republican colleagues will join me." |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 17, 2023 4:51:19 GMT
They are part of government, don't sign their checks either.
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 17, 2023 5:00:55 GMT
This is a direct result of Trump and his inflammatory and violent rhetoric. I blame the Republicans, too, for not calling it out. Their silence makes them complicit. www.nytimes.com/2023/08/16/us/politics/woman-arrested-death-threat-judge-chutkan.htmlTexas Woman Charged With Threatening to Kill Judge in Trump Election Case
Days after the woman called her chambers, Judge Tanya S. Chutkan cautioned the former president about making “inflammatory statements” that could harm the integrity of the case.
A Texas woman has been charged with threatening to kill Tanya S. Chutkan, the federal judge in Washington who is overseeing former President Donald J. Trump’s prosecution on charges of seeking to overturn the 2020 election.
The woman, Abigail Jo Shry, of Alvin, Texas, called Judge Chutkan’s chambers on Aug. 5, two days after Mr. Trump was arraigned on the election interference charges, and left a voice mail message attacking the judge, who is Black, with a racial slur, according to a criminal complaint unsealed on Friday.
In the message, Ms. Shry told Judge Chutkan, “If Trump doesn’t get elected in 2024, we are coming to kill you, so tread lightly, bitch,” according to the complaint. She added, “You will be targeted personally, publicly, your family, all of it.”
Ms. Shry, 43, also issued a threat against Representative Sheila Jackson Lee, a Black Democratic congresswoman from Texas, the complaint said. |
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Post by dawnnikol on Aug 17, 2023 10:35:31 GMT
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Post by Merge on Aug 17, 2023 11:29:16 GMT
Unbelievable! If that is what they want to do then I think we should do the same with the attorney investigating Hunter Biden. I’m getting so fucking sick of these people. From CBS News. link” Congressional effort grows to strip funding from special counsel's Trump prosecutions”From the article… Some of former President Donald Trump's allies in Congress are jockeying to find a way to strip funding from special counsel Jack Smith's prosecutions. In a series of new proposals, House Republicans are attempting to prohibit the use of federal money to pay for Smith's investigation and criminal cases against Trump. At least three different efforts are already underway, according to a CBS News review. Though they are unlikely to generate any large number of supporters and are being criticized as political posturing, the proposals could eventually derail fragile negotiations to avoid a government shutdown or emergency funding for natural disaster relief in Hawaii and Vermont. And they could be a wedge issue inside the Republican party on Capitol Hill. Rep. Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida, and Rep. Andy Ogles, Republican of Tennessee, have introduced similar but separate pieces of legislation to deny federal funding for the special counsel. Gaetz's bill, which was introduced two days after Trump announced he'd received a target letter from the special counsel, would prohibit Smith from expending federal funds. Ogles' bill, introduced days after Trump's indictment in Washington, D.C., this month, would deny Jack Smith a federal salary. In a statement to CBS News, Ogles said, "It's well past time that Congress uses its power of the purse to tell Jack Smith 'you're fired.'" The proposals have generated just a handful of co-sponsors so far, but Ogles' bill has gained the support of West Virginia Rep. Alex Mooney, a House Republican who is seeking his party's nomination — and Trump's endorsement — for a West Virginia U.S. Senate seat in 2024. Mooney told CBS News, "I support withholding funding to Jack Smith until the (Justice) Department ceases pushing its blatantly partisan two-tiered system of justice. These disgusting abuses of power will fail, and Donald Trump will be elected again in 2024." A third proposal has surfaced, which could disrupt ongoing negotiations to prevent a government shutdown. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, in a social media post earlier this summer, said she would add language to defund Smith's prosecution to must-pass spending bills. A series of appropriations bills, or a short-term continuing resolution, must pass in both the House and Senate by Sept. 30 to avoid a government shutdown. Greene's proposal, which seems certain to be opposed by Democrats, could force a divisive vote or threaten passage of bills in the House, where Republicans hold a very narrow majority. In her social media post, Greene wrote, "I will not vote for ANY appropriations bill to fund the weaponization of government. I hope every one of my Republican colleagues will join me." Weaponizing one branch to prevent the supposed weaponization of the other branch. Do these people even listen to themselves? Do their voters even care how stupid they sound? |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 17, 2023 20:00:09 GMT
A pox on every single voter who voted for this maniac in 2016. This falls under elections have consequences and we are seeing the consequences of that vote big time. From MTN. link” Fulton County Sheriff Investigating Trump-Inspired Threats Against Grand Jurors”The Sheriff's Office is not taking threats from the MAGA mob lightly Donald Trump's words have consequences. Following the sprawling RICO indictment against him and 18 other co-conspirators brought by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, Trump has gone on the attack against Willis and witnesses involved in the case. The MAGA base is receiving the message loud and clear. On Wednesday, NBC News reported that the purported names and addresses of grand jury members in the case were posted on a fringe website known for violent rhetoric. Online researchers have posted screenshots of many of the violent and often racist attacks aimed at the jurors, who were simply doing their civic duty.” |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 17, 2023 21:29:19 GMT
😂😂😂
From ABC News….
“ BREAKING: Former Pres. Trump's promised press conference to refute the allegations in the indictment handed up by the Fulton County DA's Office is now very much in doubt, multiple sources familiar with the matter tell @abc News.”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 17, 2023 21:54:18 GMT
😂😂😂 From ABC News…. “ BREAKING: Former Pres. Trump's promised press conference to refute the allegations in the indictment handed up by the Fulton County DA's Office is now very much in doubt, multiple sources familiar with the matter tell @abc News.” will he show up if we yell COWARD really LOUD??!??! All the better for him to hang himself in front of his mob... |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 17, 2023 21:59:32 GMT
Couldn't resist this one... 'Truly scandalous': Jim Jordan slammed by former top DOJ officialDavid Badash, The New Civil Rights Movement August 17, 2023, 3:50 PM ET Since Monday night when the Fulton County, Georgia grand jury handed up a sprawling 98-page speaking indictment against the ex-president and 18 of his supporters, some Republicans have been pointing to small, selected small portions of the document and claiming that District Attorney Fani Willis is suggesting the acts listed are all illegal. *** Jordan on Tuesday posted one such claim. "Mark Meadows asked for a phone number,” he began, adding that former Trump attorney Jenna Ellis “gave legal advice. But somehow the Fulton County DA thinks this is a vast criminal conspiracy? Totally ridiculous.” “Maybe the DA should focus on the REAL crime, murders, and corruption happening in her county every day!” Jordan insisted. Attorney Michael Bromwich is a former U.S. Dept. of Justice Inspector General who lead several notable probes into the FBI’s investigations, and lead former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s legal team. Thursday afternoon he slammed Jordan’s remarks. “It’s truly scandalous that the Chair of the House Judiciary Committee doesn’t understand the basics of conspiracy law,” Bromwich said. “Overt acts in furtherance of a conspiracy don’t themselves have to be crimes.” Bromwich was not the first to criticize Jordan’s remarks. “Oh hi @jim_Jordan, wanted to let you know that driving is illegal; if you are the getaway driver for a bank robbery,” snarked U.S. Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA), a former JAG attorney. “Lighting a match is illegal; if you do it to set fire to a church,” Congressman Lieu continued. “Buying fertilizer is illegal; if you plan to give it to a terrorist to make a bomb. Get it?” Referring to the domestic terrorist known as the “Unabomber,” Vanity Fair’s Molly Jong-Fast responded to Jordan’s comment by saying, “This is like saying ted kaczynski was jailed for using the United States postal service.” Appearing to point to widespread accusations that Congressman Jordan ignored or disregarded numerous reports of sexual misconduct or sexual assault when he was an assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State, historian Kevin Kruse said: “Jim Jordan can’t see the crimes? Huh, that’s new.”www.rawstory.com/truly-scandalous-jim-jordan-slammed-by-former-top-doj-official/ |
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Post by lizacreates on Aug 17, 2023 23:33:04 GMT
Maybe that’s why Jim never passed the Bar. He may have passed some bar on his way home, but not THE BAR.
If I go to Home Depot to purchase rope and duct tape, there is nothing illegal about that act. However, if the purpose of my doing so is because I and someone else conspired to kidnap someone for ransom, then the act of buying rope and duct tape contributes to the furtherance of a criminal purpose—conspiracy to commit kidnapping. It becomes an overt act because of this furtherance; in other words, my co-conspirator and I have gone beyond merely talking. We have advanced to action.
This GOP Kangaroo Court is sometimes remarkable on how much BS they can deliver in one day. Don’t these people have real jobs to do?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 17, 2023 23:55:16 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2023 0:25:33 GMT
Has this already been posted?? Rolling on floor here!! Judge Chutkan has stated that she will set the trial date at or before the Aug 28th hearing.. Donald Trump through his attorneys on Thursday asked that the trail date in the federal Jan. 6 election conspiracy case be pushed to April 2026. "Ha! Of course Trump would like to put off his trial until 2026,” former federal prosecutor Elizabeth de la Vega wrote on her X account. President Donald J. Trump, through counsel, submits this response in opposition to the government’s proposed trial calendar, Doc. 23, and respectfully requests the Court place this case on the April 2026 trial calendar,” Trump’s attorneys wrote in court filings published Thursday. www.rawstory.com/trump-2026-trial-date/ |
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 18, 2023 2:53:41 GMT
I think this random recap on twitter nailed it!
”I HAVE IRREFUTABLE PROOF THAT I DID NOT STEAL THAT DOUGHNUT AND I WOULD SHOW YOU THAT PROOF RIGHT NOW BUT MY LAWYERS TOLD ME NOT TOO AND I WANT THE D.A. TO SEE MY PROOF BUT I ALSO WANT MY TRIAL TO NOT BE HELD FOR TWO YEARS!! WITCH HUNT!!!”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2023 3:21:45 GMT
Win the House and Senate and we could impeach him and find him guilty too!!
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Post by onelasttime on Aug 18, 2023 14:30:08 GMT
George Takei…
”We’ll see this “irrefutable proof” that Trump won the 2020 election around the same time as his tax returns. He now says that instead of releasing the YUGE report Monday, he’ll produce it at trial. Which he wants to start in April of 2026. Who else sees the con?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2023 16:28:51 GMT
George Takei… ”We’ll see this “irrefutable proof” that Trump won the 2020 election around the same time as his tax returns. He now says that instead of releasing the YUGE report Monday, he’ll produce it at trial. Which he wants to start in April of 2026. Who else sees the con? Oh really, George Takei..... Surely you jest.... TFG does a con?? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2023 16:41:49 GMT
Watch what's next... TFG may go ballistic. Judge calls him a person of 'advanced age' U.S. District Court Judge Lewis Kaplan issued an order Friday denying the former president's motion to stay the case pending an appeal of a previous ruling, saying he was not required to do so and raising concerns about the ages of both the plaintiff and the defendant in the trial, reported CNN. *** Both parties are of advanced age, and a stay of this case pending resolution of Mr. Trump’s appeal would threaten delaying any compensation to which Ms. Carroll might be entitled by at least several months, if not a year or more,” Kaplan wrote. *** Trump is 77 years old, while Carroll is 79, and the judge himself is in his late 70s.www.rawstory.com/e-jean-carroll-trump-2664055326/ |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Aug 18, 2023 16:53:08 GMT
Gov Kemp doubts the Georgia trial will go forward before the election..
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 18, 2023 19:51:36 GMT
Gov Kemp doubts the Georgia trial will go forward before the election.. I don't think he has much input or control on when the trial happens. But 19 defendants might take a while. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 18, 2023 21:47:13 GMT
Did Mark Meadows cut a deal or will he? The offer to pay to expedite counting of ballots sounds really sketchy. www.nytimes.com/2023/08/18/opinion/mark-meadows-trump-georgia-indictment.htmlOn Tuesday, Mark Meadows asked to have his indictment in Fulton County, Ga., moved to federal court. “Nothing Mr. Meadows is alleged in the indictment to have done is criminal per se: arranging Oval Office meetings, contacting state officials on the president’s behalf, visiting a state government building and setting up a phone call for the president,” his lawyer wrote in court filings. “One would expect a chief of staff to the president of the United States to do these sorts of things.”
Mr. Meadows is so absent from the federal indictment that reporters and politicians have wondered why. He is charged in Georgia. There are always multiple ways of looking at things, and even now it’s not clear what Mr. Meadows is thinking and doing; it seems possible he always thought he was being helpful, whether he was talking to Mr. Trump, Mr. Milley, Ms. Thomas or Mr. Raffensperger.
But reading the Georgia indictment is to step away from the question of intentions: The document is arguably just a lengthy series of actions and outcomes, rather than much in the way of beliefs. And when it’s put like that about Mr. Meadows, you can see where a placating mechanism can become a force of its own, helping smooth the way for catastrophe. |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 18, 2023 22:22:54 GMT
a lighter perspective www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/18/trump-indictment-fatigue-charges-satire/To be indicted once might be regarded as a misfortune. To be indicted four times on 91 counts starts to look like carelessness. At a certain point, you cannot help but think: another one? Did Donald Trump do anything else for four years? Did he even try to govern? If I were president of the United States, I would occasionally ride around in Air Force One marveling at how small everything looked. I would go to the Library of Congress and say, “Show me all the oldest books you have!” and that would keep me busy and out of trouble for a week, at least. But if these indictments are to be believed, that is not how Trump operated. It’s like there was just one passion with him, and it was doing things for which he would be charged later. Also, surrounding himself with unsavory associates. If you asked him, “Would you like an associate who is savory or one who is unsavory?” every time he would say, “Give me the second one.”
Enough people are bored by the fact that the former president keeps getting charged with crimes that there’s even a term for it: indictment fatigue. Imagine! This is the Trump era in a nutshell. In a horrifying, unprecedented manner, the Hellmouth is opening up to release demons, but this happens regularly on Thursdays now, so people are bored with it! All you have to do, if you want to get away with something, is do it at least twice. It then ceases to be unprecedented and people can develop fatigue about it.
Boy, I wish that applied to other areas of life!
As a new parent, I keep thinking, “Change another diaper? But I just changed a diaper.” I would certainly love to declare diaper fatigue. No, we don’t need to change the diapers anymore! We have changed enough of them; we get the general sense of what is going to be inside. After a certain point it feels like piling on, you know? It begins to feel like They are out to get us. Surely this can’t just be a direct consequence of the baby’s actions; it’s got to be a conspiracy. Someone (They!) is sneaking into the home and filling these diapers with horrible, noisome substances and expecting me to deal with them. Well, I won’t. I stand with babies against those conspirators who are trying to weaponize the digestive system against us. This simply cannot be what happens every time you eat food.
Similarly, with indictments, you don’t need to keep piling on. People get the idea. You start adding more and more and it just feels excessive. It’s like, state and federal crimes? Pick one! Streamline, streamline, simplify! What are these details telling us?
I think we should apply this premise that you can just get tired of the consequences of your actions and decide they are no longer interesting to more areas of life. No gravity today, thanks. I get the general sense and do not need any more examples. Also, I am sick of hitting the ground when I fall off ladders. Today, I am going to float.
Are you trying to remove cancer from your lung? Did you get a bit of it out? That should do, then! Are you counting votes? We counted a few of them; must we really keep counting? Just get a gist and call it a day! I have been to my general practitioner a single time! That’s great! I’m set for life! Breathe air? No, thanks, I have air fatigue. Read a book? No, I read one last year. Shower? No, I have shower fatigue. Experiencing consequences? Nope, I have consequence fatigue.
No more emails, thanks; I received some yesterday. I am all emailed out. Stop saying that I am only receiving emails because I myself sent emails; I won’t hear it. I don’t want any more.
It’s like watching one chicken come home to roost. “Great!” you think. “A chicken has come home to roost!” And then there are 90 more chickens. To me, this gets more and more alarming. It’s like, how many chickens did this guy even have? Where was he getting these chickens? But to some Observers (wiser, more jaded), you see one chicken, you’ve seen them all, and the rest of the roosting can be taken on faith.
Or it’s like watching someone throw 91 balls into the air. I don’t know that it’s going to be riveting watching all 91 of them fall to the ground, but once he has thrown them into the air, you’re sort of stuck.
Catch a cold? No, I’ve had colds in the past; I am fine. Get a hangover? No, I had one in 2018. The right number of indictments is one fewer than we currently have.
No, I am not saying that at a certain point if you do enough crimes people should just let you do the crimes. I’m simply saying: Enough is enough.
What do you mean, he should have thought of that when he was doing it? |
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Post by aj2hall on Aug 18, 2023 22:26:55 GMT
Threats to jurors www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/18/fbi-joins-investigation-threats-grand-jurors-trump-georgia-case/ATLANTA — The FBI has joined an investigation into a barrage of threats against Fulton County officials in recent days, including members of the Atlanta-area grand jury that voted to indict former president Donald Trump and 18 of his allies in a sweeping criminal case focused on alleged 2020 election interference.
The statement came amid growing concern about the safety of grand jurors involved in Monday’s indictment after the names, home addresses, photos and social media profiles of some members of the panel circulated online along with threatening messages targeting them and Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D), whose office is prosecuting the case.
Under Georgia law, names of grand jurors are publicly listed on indictments — an effort at transparency that some have questioned in light of ongoing threats in the aftermath of the charges against Trump and 18 others accused of conspiring to overturn Georgia’s 2020 presidential election results.
Security has been increased in recent days for Willis, who has repeatedly raised concerns about racist, threatening phone calls and emails to her and her staff since she launched the investigation into Trump and his allies 2½ years ago. Willis, the first Black woman elected as Fulton County district attorney, has faced intensifying, derogatory attacks from Trump, who repeatedly called her a “racist” and accused her of seeking to interfere with his 2024 campaign for president.
“These jurors have signed their death warrant by falsely indicting President Trump,” one user wrote in a large forum for pro-Trump extremists, according to the report.
In other forums, users referred to the grand jurors’ names as a “hit list,” prompting a reply about long-range rifles, according to the left-leaning watchdog group Media Matters. The report also included an exchange where users were trying to determine the racial and religious backgrounds of the jurors. “There are only 2 names on there that could be jewish,” one user said, listing the names.
As with Trump’s previous indictments, chatter about “civil war” also surged, briefly trending on the social media platform X, formerly known as Twitter. The notion that the indictments cleaved the nation into “us vs. them” was reinforced by prominent right-wing politicians, conservative news outlets and far-right podcasters.
“You are in a civil war,” proclaimed the podcaster Tim Pool, who boasts millions of subscribers across platforms. The declaration was mocked by left-wing activists who pointed out that Pool previously has tried in vain to whip up his followers after Trump legal developments. |
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