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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 0:54:14 GMT
But I did look at the last two pages of the most recent and didn’t see this mentioned.
Has there been any discussion on Biden and what seems to be a sudden deterioration? Sure he’s always had gaffes and some odd behavior…but every day there seems to be something new and more dramatic than the day before. He does not appear to be ok. His gait, instability, slurred speech, in addition to cognitive issues that seem to come daily.
This isn’t about Trump or who will win in 2024. This isn’t about the Democrats nominating someone else. This is about the here and now and our President does not seem to be at all well.
This isn’t even about him repeating a story nearly word for word just minutes apart. Todays concern for me was him simply reading words.
IDK how to post a link, but you can search for the video on YouTube using “Biden partners partners partners” and find it.
Sure I’m no doctor but it sure seems like there’s really something wrong.
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Post by pinklady on Sept 23, 2023 1:24:45 GMT
Yawn
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Post by Merge on Sept 23, 2023 1:30:12 GMT
I think it’s more accurate that right wing media is ramping up its “coverage” recently.
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Post by ntsf on Sept 23, 2023 1:40:26 GMT
I don't think he sounds bad.. maybe the media you listen to.. that emphasizes mistakes.. he has a speech disability.. that comes out. he gave a very strong speech at the un the other day.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Sept 23, 2023 1:47:09 GMT
But I did look at the last two pages of the most recent and didn’t see this mentioned. Has there been any discussion on Biden and what seems to be a sudden deterioration? Sure he’s always had gaffes and some odd behavior…but every day there seems to be something new and more dramatic than the day before. He does not appear to be ok. His gait, instability, slurred speech, in addition to cognitive issues that seem to come daily. This isn’t about Trump or who will win in 2024. This isn’t about the Democrats nominating someone else. This is about the here and now and our President does not seem to be at all well. This isn’t even about him repeating a story nearly word for word just minutes apart. Todays concern for me was him simply reading words. IDK how to post a link, but you can search for the video on YouTube using “Biden partners partners partners” and find it. Sure I’m no doctor but it sure seems like there’s really something wrong. Clearly you are not a doctor or a speech pathologist. This is simply a person with a fluency disorder!!! Only a truly awful person would take a person's known disability and try and paint it to be something sinister. to quote Mr. Knightley... Badly Done Genny, Badly Done! pbsnc.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/mastem14-ela-lit-emma3/emma-3-mr-knightleys-reprimand/ |
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Post by MichyM on Sept 23, 2023 1:53:40 GMT
As a child who overcame a stutter (and a lisp), I find your post to be infuriating. Are you unfamiliar with Biden’s speaking disorder?
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Post by librarylady on Sept 23, 2023 1:54:12 GMT
Look at 3-4 reputable news sources.
If you find stories there, I will get concerned.
As long as it is only sources with an agenda I am not concerned.
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Post by miascraps on Sept 23, 2023 1:56:50 GMT
Try AP News as one of your more reputable sources for unbiased news
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Post by peatlejuice on Sept 23, 2023 2:00:30 GMT
By and large, I think a role as stressful as POTUS rapidly ages a person and impacts their health.
I repeated a story to my husband twice and walked into a closed door last night, because I was stressed about ongoing home projects and distracted in my own thoughts. I'm half Biden's age, with a fraction of the pressure on me. So no, I'm not especially concerned that an elderly man with more pressure on him than you or I will ever have, is showing signs of stress and aging.
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Post by snyder on Sept 23, 2023 2:21:41 GMT
As a child who overcame a stutter (and a lisp), I find your post to be infuriating. Are you unfamiliar with Biden’s speaking disorder? Being a member of this forum, I'm surprised at how many times I felt I live under a rock. I did not know about his disorder.
Ya learn something new all the time on this board.
My son has overcome a slight stutter and grandson was a very late talker so he went to speech therapy for several years. I would have thought maybe dealing with this personally, I would have learned about Binen't disorder somewhere along the way. Does his disorder have a name?
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 23, 2023 2:32:46 GMT
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Post by MichyM on Sept 23, 2023 2:43:24 GMT
As a child who overcame a stutter (and a lisp), I find your post to be infuriating. Are you unfamiliar with Biden’s speaking disorder? Being a member of this forum, I'm surprised at how many times I felt I live under a rock. I did not know about his disorder.
Ya learn something new all the time on this board.
My son has overcome a slight stutter and grandson was a very late talker so he went to speech therapy for several years. I would have thought maybe dealing with this personally, I would have learned about Binen't disorder somewhere along the way. Does his disorder have a name?
He’s been a lifelong stutterer. Google for more info. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 23, 2023 2:50:24 GMT
As a child who overcame a stutter (and a lisp), I find your post to be infuriating. Are you unfamiliar with Biden’s speaking disorder? Being a member of this forum, I'm surprised at how many times I felt I live under a rock. I did not know about his disorder.
Ya learn something new all the time on this board.
My son has overcome a slight stutter and grandson was a very late talker so he went to speech therapy for several years. I would have thought maybe dealing with this personally, I would have learned about Binen't disorder somewhere along the way. Does his disorder have a name?
Biden has had serious stuttering issues in the past. When tired or stressed I do think they pop out... On a visit to New Hampshire he met a little boy who stuttered, maybe 10 yrs old and got his phone number and calls him to talk about stuttering... and that it can get better with practice. I know when I am tired I have a slight hesitation in my speech. Called getting sloppy. Tiredness also affects my toe in feet, gets worse too. |
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Post by myshelly on Sept 23, 2023 3:07:37 GMT
But I did look at the last two pages of the most recent and didn’t see this mentioned. Has there been any discussion on Biden and what seems to be a sudden deterioration? Sure he’s always had gaffes and some odd behavior…but every day there seems to be something new and more dramatic than the day before. He does not appear to be ok. His gait, instability, slurred speech, in addition to cognitive issues that seem to come daily. This isn’t about Trump or who will win in 2024. This isn’t about the Democrats nominating someone else. This is about the here and now and our President does not seem to be at all well. This isn’t even about him repeating a story nearly word for word just minutes apart. Todays concern for me was him simply reading words. IDK how to post a link, but you can search for the video on YouTube using “Biden partners partners partners” and find it. Sure I’m no doctor but it sure seems like there’s really something wrong. Are you sure this is actually happening or are your news sources biased? Because, no, I haven’t seen or noticed anything like what you describe watching AP news sources. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 3:15:47 GMT
For the record, I watch the NBC Nightly News at 6:30 pm and my local NBC News in the morning as I get ready for work followed by the first 15 minutes of the Today Show. I have begun to hear about polls where the majority of Americans are beginning to have significant concerns about Biden’s health. I have seen enough elderly folks in my personal life that have difficulties so I do recognize it.
I did not know he ever had a speech impediment. I’m only basing on what seems to be a decline every time I see him on the NBC segments I see.
I suppose it was my mistake to think anyone here would want to discuss anything negative. Frankly it wasn’t a personal attack on Biden but it has been a little alarming and maybe a little personal to me.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 23, 2023 3:19:38 GMT
aj2hallEmphasis, over and over again.. the woman sitting 3(?) places dow from him is nodding her head.. 1..2..3.. times
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 3:20:06 GMT
From CNN “Asked directly about the potential effects of his age, majorities of Democratic-aligned voters say they are seriously concerned that Biden’s age might negatively affect his current level of physical and mental competence (56%), his ability to win the 2024 general election if nominated (60%), and his ability to serve another full term as president if reelected (61%). Fewer, 43%, say they’re seriously concerned that his age would negatively affect his ability to understand the concerns of the next generation of Americans, although that rises to 59% among Democratic-aligned voters younger than 45. If reelected, Biden would take office in January 2025 at age 82. Most Democratic-aligned voters younger than 45 say they approve of Biden’s job performance overall. But in a break from older partisans, substantial majorities also say that Biden does not inspire confidence (63%), does not have the stamina and sharpness to serve effectively (64%), and that his policies have failed to improve the economy (64%).” www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics/cnn-poll-joe-biden-headwinds/index.html |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 23, 2023 3:25:17 GMT
There is an almost full page discussing something very negative about a NJ US Senator and his wife who were both indicted today. I posted it initially, before the full thread, as soon as I saw it. I knew someone would say something if I hadn't. It is far too close to home for me. He should resign, now, today or first thing in the morning. He won't. And that is wrong. 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/141489/sen-menendez-indicted-federal-brib |
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Post by ntsf on Sept 23, 2023 3:29:32 GMT
I'd rather have biden any day, speaking smoothly or not, vs any republican. biden is smart, wiley.. and has accomplished a lot. I don't vote for a president based on their fluid speech.. and speech issues does not equal mental issues. it can, but it is not if a then b.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 3:30:05 GMT
An August survey from Associated Press/NORC found that 77 percent of Americans, including 69 percent of Democrats, thought Biden was too old to be effective for another four-year term. When asked what word came to mind when they thought of Biden, more than a quarter of respondents mentioned age, with another 15 percent using words like “slow” or “confused.” www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/09/18/biden-democrats-anxiety-age/ |
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Post by MichyM on Sept 23, 2023 3:34:21 GMT
For the record, I watch the NBC Nightly News at 6:30 pm and my local NBC News in the morning as I get ready for work followed by the first 15 minutes of the Today Show. I have begun to hear about polls where the majority of Americans are beginning to have significant concerns about Biden’s health. I have seen enough elderly folks in my personal life that have difficulties so I do recognize it. I did not know he ever had a speech impediment. I’m only basing on what seems to be a decline every time I see him on the NBC segments I see. I suppose it was my mistake to think anyone here would want to discuss anything negative. Frankly it wasn’t a personal attack on Biden but it has been a little alarming and maybe a little personal to me. Criticize Biden all you’d like, i truly don’t care. And yes, he’s far to old to be president IMHO, but apparently it’s the best we democrats can come up with. ANYHOW… What I care about is that there are people who apparently have not heard Biden speak enough to know that he suffers from stuttering. It boggles my mind. I ask this honestly, have you not listened to him speak in all the years prior to this? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 3:35:26 GMT
Just two, liberal news outlets. It’s not me and it’s not my news sources. Main stream and even liberal media outlets are beginning to acknowledge that Americans, including large numbers of Democrats are concerned.
Don’t shoot the messenger just because you all don’t want to discuss it.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 23, 2023 3:41:15 GMT
There is a powerful group of young people emerging ... They are supporting Joe Biden. They understand what is happening toward the destruction of our democracy.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Sept 23, 2023 3:44:44 GMT
Just two, liberal news outlets. It’s not me and it’s not my news sources. Main stream and even liberal media outlets are beginning to acknowledge that Americans, including large numbers of Democrats are concerned. Don’t shoot the messenger just because you all don’t want to discuss it. Actually it has been discussed right here on this message board in several different threads. If Biden doesn't run, then who? Another, should Biden run? 2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/141309/ok-joe-biden-who2peasrefugees.boards.net/thread/140831/president-biden-decides-run-afterThey have fallen to page 4/5 I think... I forgot to look at the page numbers.. There have also been discussions within some of the general political threads when the topic comes up. |
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Post by samantha25 on Sept 23, 2023 4:25:30 GMT
The media is toxic and promoting discord, all for click bait and viewership. What large numbers of Democrats are concerned? Information and polls from the media? So what that it's mainstream media. CNN, NY Times, MSNBC, etc. all have some terrible takes on what's happening and biased main-line topics. The right has no other platform than to say that Joe is incompetent and too old and that's the story that will continue. You can't dispute his accomplishments.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2023 7:59:28 GMT
The media is toxic and promoting discord, all for click bait and viewership. What large numbers of Democrats are concerned? Information and polls from the media? So what that it's mainstream media. CNN, NY Times, MSNBC, etc. all have some terrible takes on what's happening and biased main-line topics. The right has no other platform than to say that Joe is incompetent and too old and that's the story that will continue. You can't dispute his accomplishments. Ha! So initially, everyone questioned my source and accused me of not using the correct source of media to reference and then when I quote known liberal sources for reference, somehow there’s still an issue with my sources of reference. Got it. It’s not just right leaning media you can’t stand. It’s any source that questions anything you don’t want to discuss. That’s how politics goes here. edited to add - his accomplishments? Inflation at a 40 year high and the middle class struggling to make ends meet like I’ve not seen since the Carter administration. |
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Post by smasonnc on Sept 23, 2023 9:03:41 GMT
I don't watch or read right-wing media. My main source of news is AP and BBC. I voted for him and will vote for him or a Democrat in the upcoming election. Just looking at him, he looks feeble and makes puzzling mistakes. I'm flabbergasted at the support for Trump and I wish we had a better choice to run against him. However, I don't care if they go full "Weekend at Bernie's" with Biden. I'm voting for him.
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 23, 2023 10:31:31 GMT
As a child who overcame a stutter (and a lisp), I find your post to be infuriating. Are you unfamiliar with Biden’s speaking disorder? Being a member of this forum, I'm surprised at how many times I felt I live under a rock. I did not know about his disorder.
Ya learn something new all the time on this board.
My son has overcome a slight stutter and grandson was a very late talker so he went to speech therapy for several years. I would have thought maybe dealing with this personally, I would have learned about Binen't disorder somewhere along the way. Does his disorder have a name?
He stutters. It is a fluency disorder. |
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Post by mollycoddle on Sept 23, 2023 10:43:47 GMT
The media is toxic and promoting discord, all for click bait and viewership. What large numbers of Democrats are concerned? Information and polls from the media? So what that it's mainstream media. CNN, NY Times, MSNBC, etc. all have some terrible takes on what's happening and biased main-line topics. The right has no other platform than to say that Joe is incompetent and too old and that's the story that will continue. You can't dispute his accomplishments. Ha! So initially, everyone questioned my source and accused me of not using the correct source of media to reference and then when I quote known liberal sources for reference, somehow there’s still an issue with my sources of reference. Got it. It’s not just right leaning media you can’t stand. It’s any source that questions anything you don’t want to discuss. That’s how politics goes here. edited to add - his accomplishments? Inflation at a 40 year high and the middle class struggling to make ends meet like I’ve not seen since the Carter administration. Genny, inflation is worldwide. Have a look at some of the charts here. www.oecd.org/economic-outlook/september-2023/www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/mi/research-analysis/global-economy-growing-moderate-pace-inflation-subside.htmlHouse Republicans complained about inflation before the election last year, but have done nothing about it. That is literally because there is a limited amount that any one nation can do. Also because they have been busily investigating HB, but I digress. Regarding Biden, yes, I am concerned about his age. Having said that, I will happily vote for him. Trump is a raging authoritarian narcissist and serial liar who IMO wants to become President again to avoid his legal woes-all of which he has brought upon himself. To this day, he continues to lie about who won the 2020 election. Many of his supporters also believe this. But the fact is that outside of his base, Trump is one of the most hated people in America. |
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Post by aj2hall on Sept 23, 2023 11:20:53 GMT
Concern for his age is one thing. Yes, Americans are concerned about his age. Peas have admitted that here. I do think some of that is because the media, both left and right wing, is constantly talking about it.
Thinking Biden is deteriorating based on a video from the GOP is something different. Did you watch any of the speeches that he’s given recently? I posted 2 links from PBS to his UN speech and a speech on the economy.
If you have a video from a more neutral source or an article from a neutral source showing his decline, please post it.
I thought this wasn’t about politics? Just concern for a president? Since you mentioned inflation and the struggling middle class, yes both are happening. Mollycoddle addressed the issue of inflation. And the middle class? They have been struggling since Reagan because of Republicans, their failed trickle down economics, Trump and other tax cuts for the wealthy. The wealth gap widened because of Republicans. Biden is trying to help the middle class by restoring manufacturing, student loan forgiveness, pro-union etc
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