RedSquirrelUK
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Aug 2, 2014 13:03:45 GMT
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Post by RedSquirrelUK on Nov 4, 2023 22:38:22 GMT
I had only ever seen the word tousled written down, and when I first read it as a child my brain decided it was pronounced tussled, and I never heard it until MIL said it when I was in my 40s. I don't know whether I ever used it out loud and embarrassed myself, but nobody ever told me! Um, I am 56 years old and only found out today with your post that it's not, in fact, pronounced tussled! Which is weird, because if you read it phonetically, it's nothing like 'tussled' !! I know!! Thank you for validating me. Isn't that strange that both our brains came up with the same incorrect pronunciation?
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Post by pjaye on Nov 4, 2023 22:42:20 GMT
I'd definitely point out that the correct way of pronouncing it is "toi-let"
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lesley
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Jul 6, 2014 21:50:44 GMT
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Post by lesley on Nov 5, 2023 0:38:46 GMT
I'd definitely point out that the correct way of pronouncing it is "toi-let" That made me giggle! 😄 I hate it when adults use the word potty, unless they’re talking to toddlers. I hate it especially for dogs - I’ve never in my life seen a dog use a potty. 🧐
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caangel
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Jun 26, 2014 16:42:12 GMT
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Post by caangel on Nov 5, 2023 2:06:15 GMT
she continually mispronounced Hamas (she pronounced it with a long A for both syllables). The way you describe your friend pronouncing it is how I pronounce it and hear it on the news. Unless I am not understanding your explanation. It is pronounced (here, anyway) with a long 'a' sound, but more like huh-muss. I will try to find a video with the way I hear it pronounced. ETA: Here is a video which gives the pronunciation the way I say it and hear it on the news, which is how it is said in Arabic: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si8DoXwVRSsI also found a video where it is pronounced more like ha-mass (as in church mass), which was an American video. The video has short a sounds. The Long A sound is the name of the letter. This video has long A sounds youtu.be/_7byj6wgUE4?feature=shared
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 5, 2023 2:13:02 GMT
The video has short a sounds. The Long A sound is the name of the letter. So the person in MichyM 's example was pronouncing it like "hay-mace" ? Yikes, I would have to correct that for sure!
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Post by candleangie on Nov 5, 2023 2:45:58 GMT
I'd definitely point out that the correct way of pronouncing it is "toi-let" 🤣🤣 That’s fair. Lol
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Post by Tearisci on Nov 5, 2023 14:05:59 GMT
I have always been a big reader and saw words that I had never heard out loud so I would mispronounce them. Yes, I'm looking at you hyperbole.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 5, 2023 17:09:50 GMT
she continually mispronounced Hamas (she pronounced it with a long A for both syllables). The way you describe your friend pronouncing it is how I pronounce it and hear it on the news. Unless I am not understanding your explanation. It is pronounced (here, anyway) with a long 'a' sound, but more like huh-muss. I will try to find a video with the way I hear it pronounced. ETA: Here is a video which gives the pronunciation the way I say it and hear it on the news, which is how it is said in Arabic: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Si8DoXwVRSsI also found a video where it is pronounced more like ha-mass (as in church mass), which was an American video. The video is the correct pronunciation. My friend says Ham ass. With a long A for both syllables.
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Post by freecharlie on Nov 5, 2023 21:35:36 GMT
If it is a mistake and not a regional issue or a speech issue then say something privately.
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Post by 950nancy on Nov 5, 2023 21:40:29 GMT
Absolutely. I look up words I hear all of the time. Love to learn new things about words.
In fact... did you know the beginning letters wr mean bent or twisted? Just a little fun fact for your Sunday afternoon. (I am sure there could be exceptions, but have had fun trying to find them.)
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scrappinmama
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Jun 26, 2014 12:54:09 GMT
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Post by scrappinmama on Nov 5, 2023 22:46:26 GMT
The way you correct matters. Do it privately and with some grace.
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Post by auntkelly on Nov 6, 2023 14:06:31 GMT
I’m not big on adults correcting other adults when it comes to etiquette, grammar, pronunciation etc.
I think it’s best to let adults pronounce words the way they want to, unless they have asked for your help or there is some compelling reason, such as they are making a business presentation and are mispronouncing the name of a product.
I know there have been times when I thought I was very sure of the pronunciation of a word, but later I found out there was an alternate pronunciation which was more acceptable than my pronunciation.
I have one friend who can be a little pompous and every time I pronounced “Capris” in the Americanized manner, she would correct me by stating the Italian pronunciation. Finally, I turned to her and said “Look, when you are in the United States, you don’t say ‘Roma’ when referring to Rome, so why do you expect me to use the proper Italian when referring to Capris?”
I didn’t add that I thought it made her sound pretentious when she pronounced Capris in the Italian manner when we were having a conversation in a Starbucks in Oklahoma City, but each to his own.
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Post by smasonnc on Nov 6, 2023 14:14:29 GMT
Nah, my husband will take care of it. If it's someone's name, I will tell them privately. A lot of people mispronounce words that they read or learn in "word-a-day" scenarios. I don't correct them. However, I'm not above correcting the misspellings of someone who is bloviating on the internet. The glee that it brings me is a personal failing.
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Nov 6, 2023 14:25:32 GMT
Our payroll person at work pronounces fiscal as physical and it drives me batty. I haven't corrected her, and won't, but I have made it a point to say the word to her several times and she must not hear it because she still says physical year.
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huskergal
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Jun 25, 2014 20:22:13 GMT
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Post by huskergal on Nov 6, 2023 14:44:48 GMT
Yes. My parents were immigrants. They mispronounced words. I grew up mispronouncing words. I was happy when I learned the correct pronunciation or someone corrected me unless they did it in a manner that was making fun of me. I still have words I mispronounce.
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Post by hopechest on Nov 6, 2023 21:45:05 GMT
Yes, but privately please.
My XH used to say "irregardless". I kindly mentioned it to him 100000 times and he STRONGLY disagreed with me that it wasn't a word. He insisted it was. (this was pre-google)
During our "navigating a divorce" marriage counseling, our therapist also told him it wasn't a word as he was being a general ass and loudly exclaiming that irregardless of his behavior I should pay him alimony because he didn't want to work and I earned tons of money. The look on his face was worth every dime.
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Post by kristi521 on Nov 6, 2023 21:47:36 GMT
If you were consistently using a word wrong or mispronouncing something, would you want someone to tell you? Things that you probably just misheard and they stuck with you? This is purely a curiosity question. Example: “I need to replace the inners of my potty” (innards) Yes, I would definitely want to know. However, I find that most people don't. My husband is an example of one of those people. He has a few words he consistently mispronounces and it drives me batty, but he doesn't care and doesn't want to be corrected.
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artbabe
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Jun 26, 2014 1:59:10 GMT
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Post by artbabe on Nov 7, 2023 14:30:23 GMT
I always thought the word "row" (as in fight) was pronounced "row" (as in rowboat). I don't think the fight use of row is very common in America so I'd only read it in books. Then I started watching British tv. Oops. I don't think I've every used it in a sentence, so I never embarrassed myself, but I definitely always pronounced it wrong in my head.
Yes, correct me privately. I'm picky about language and I don't want to be wrong.
My mom always thought I said "either" wrong. I always pronounced it with an eye-ther and my mome pronounced it ee-ther. Both are correct but she would always try to correct me. Coyote is always a weird one in my family. I pronounce it with 3 syllables, my dad pronounces it with two. The internet seems divided on this one.
I love language discussions. I love it when we have a discussion here and the different areas of the United States, Britain, and Australia pronounce things differently and everyone argues. Like if Dawn and Don rhyme or not. Good times.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 7, 2023 15:15:28 GMT
I always thought the word "row" (as in fight) was pronounced "row" (as in rowboat). I don't think the fight use of row is very common in America so I'd only read it in books. Then I started watching British tv. Oops. I don't think I've every used it in a sentence, so I never embarrassed myself, but I definitely always pronounced it wrong in my head. Yes, correct me privately. I'm picky about language and I don't want to be wrong. My mom always thought I said "either" wrong. I always pronounced it with an eye-ther and my mome pronounced it ee-ther. Both are correct but she would always try to correct me. Coyote is always a weird one in my family. I pronounce it with 3 syllables, my dad pronounces it with two. The internet seems divided on this one. I love language discussions. I love it when we have a discussion here and the different areas of the United States, Britain, and Australia pronounce things differently and everyone argues. Like if Dawn and Don rhyme or not. Good times. I think this might be a British vs American pronunciation difference - I think in American English row even as fight is pronounced the same as row a boat. But I agree it's a rarely used word. One of my very best friends is English, so I've picked up a few British pronunciations to words which makes my brain even more confused!
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Post by librarylady on Nov 7, 2023 17:12:28 GMT
I always said "row" (a fight) differently than "row" in a boat.
It is not often used verbally but often in reading.
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Post by rymeswithpurple on Nov 7, 2023 17:25:55 GMT
I'd want to be told privately, but definitely let me know.
A few come to mind while reading this thread. My husband pronounces Owen Nolan (NHL player)'s first name as "Ollen." (Sort of the like Olan-Mills, if you're familiar).
Another instance of mispronunciation came during my grad school internship. My supervisor was both the school counselor as well as a learning support teacher, so I helped with both groups of students. There was a student who pronounced Parmesan as "par-mee-zee-un," and it drove my supervisor absolutely batty.
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 7, 2023 20:33:56 GMT
Sure. I have no problem with it. FWIW, I do not correct anyone except possibly family, because I suspect that some people get offended.
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 7, 2023 20:37:47 GMT
Yes, I would. But I agree with the above - pull someone aside, don't do it in front of others. I had lunch with co-workers the other day and was laughing and talking. It wasn't until I walked out of the room and ran into someone else that she told me I had lettuce in my teeth - I really wished the others had said something earlier. See, I DO tell people that sort of stuff. If you have a booger poking out of your nose, or something in your teeth, I’m gonna quietly let you know about it. I don’t understand not letting the person know.
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