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Post by scrapmaven on Nov 12, 2023 17:07:35 GMT
I was at a hobby store last year while on a getaway. I bought two jigsaw puzzles and there was a tip jar at the register. I am tipping. I'm paying RETAIL. It's way out of hand and I'm saying this as a generous tipper when I do tip.
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sweetpeasmom
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Post by sweetpeasmom on Nov 12, 2023 17:23:51 GMT
DD works at a nail salon as a concierge. She worked during HS and when she’s home on break. The owner will sometimes do nail appointments. When she does, she will split her tips with the concierges on shift. The girls appreciate it so much.
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Post by mellyw on Nov 12, 2023 18:01:58 GMT
I would have been PISSED! I made it a habit to over tip during covid to try and compensate those who didn't have the luxury of staying home - but that is my CHOICE. Someone tipping for me would have resulted in them cancelling the transaction and calling their manager over and I don't give a damn who's behind me. That is utterly ridiculous. All this. I would have had no problem asking for the manager. I’d consider it helping those customers waiting in line because that cashier obviously felt they could get away with that behavior
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Post by Darcy Collins on Nov 12, 2023 20:44:30 GMT
This, all this. This summer for DHs 50th birthday 9 of us went out for dinner. The bill was just under $600. There was no way I was going to tip 25%, $150, that's 10 hours of the waitresses wages! I don't care if we were a group. It's just as ridiculous as getting 3 bills for $200 each and paying a $50 tip each. A grocery clerk doesn't get a tip because you have a heaping cart full or lots of heavy items, or when the line up is very long. They just do their job. And is it more trouble for a server to bring you a $50 filet mignon instead of a $15 chicken breast? So at 20% that would be a $10 tip vs a $3 tip.
You do realize the server is automatically paying 10% of their sales (your bill) in taxes? So your $600 check cost them $60; and $5 vs $1.50 for the filet or chicken.
Some of you have never waited tables, or had kids who have been servers, and it shows.
Servers do not pay 10% of sales in taxes - that is completely false. They are taxed on tips and will pay their tax rate on that income. There is an assumption that servers will receive at least 10% (I actually believe 8% is what the IRS uses) of sales in tips and if a restaurant reports significantly less than that the IRS may investigate further - but the idea that servers are sending $60 in taxes to the IRS on a $600 check is wholly false. They're taxed on the additional reported income at their tax rate.
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Post by Rhondito on Nov 12, 2023 23:14:36 GMT
You do realize the server is automatically paying 10% of their sales (your bill) in taxes? So your $600 check cost them $60; and $5 vs $1.50 for the filet or chicken.
Some of you have never waited tables, or had kids who have been servers, and it shows.
Servers do not pay 10% of sales in taxes - that is completely false. They are taxed on tips and will pay their tax rate on that income. There is an assumption that servers will receive at least 10% (I actually believe 8% is what the IRS uses) of sales in tips and if a restaurant reports significantly less than that the IRS may investigate further - but the idea that servers are sending $60 in taxes to the IRS on a $600 check is wholly false. They're taxed on the additional reported income at their tax rate. Thank you for the correction. I should have said they pay taxes on 10% of their sales but I did a very poor job of trying to do that. 
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dantemia
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Post by dantemia on Nov 12, 2023 23:27:25 GMT
Last night at dinner. We were charged 18% service fee for costs associated with the business and it made it clear it is NOT the tip.
We rarely go there but it makes you think twice.
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Post by katiekaty on Nov 13, 2023 5:10:35 GMT
What's really odd is that all this tipping nonsense is spilling over into my business, where I don't ask for tips. And its benefitting my employees!! I run a drop in craft studio. People come in and paint things, like wooden shapes for the kids and door hangers for the adults. Some of my staff are really exceptional at customer service and in just the last 2 years I've seen an huge increase in people who ask me to add a tip to their bill for one of my staff. We also do a ton of birthday parties. Over 900 in the last 8 years. I'd say in the first 6 years we received maybe 2 tips a year. In the last 2 years, the rate up tipping has increased dramatically, to the point where I'd say we are now at 50% of party parents tipping us. We NEVER ask for tips. I don't have a tipping option on my Square stand. Partly because I don't want to piss people off and partly because of the hassle of running tips through payroll and figuring out who earned which tip. We just give the tips directly to the party host and they share with whichever staff helps them clean up. At this point, I'm probably not processing tips the proper way, as the kids aren't getting taxed on it. They are all high school and college students so they don't make much money. I may have to figure things out pretty soon if this tipping craze keeps going. The other day 3 of us helped a lady with her child's party. She gave each of us $25. This was for a $180 party. Crazy! I believe I would just hold onto the tips and once a month pay the staff, including everyone, an equal share of the tips. In a business like your, it’s not just the staff the serve the party guests, but it’s all the behind the scenes prep people.
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Post by chaosisapony on Nov 13, 2023 5:18:01 GMT
Wow that cashier had some nerve.
I happily click "no tip" whenever the occasion arises now. I used to feel guilty about it but I got over it when I realized that these are employees that would never have been tipped prior to the touch screen card readers asking. So now I have no guilt. Besides, I'm in California where they all make minimum wage not a super low wage that is supposed to be made up for with tips.
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