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Post by mollycoddle on Dec 10, 2023 13:04:34 GMT
I disagree. Most government jobs are relatively low paid compared to similar jobs in the private sector. The security of a pension in retirement is an important factor in attracting people to do those jobs for less than they could make elsewhere. Or they’re in jobs like teaching are for the good of our society but also are low paid. My pension was really the only monetary perk of the teaching career. Not healthcare? I was fortunate to have cheap, excellent insurance over the course of my career. But this must differ substantially by state.
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Post by mommaho on Dec 10, 2023 13:50:11 GMT
I plan on going on March 1, 2025, the day after I turn 67. Retiring on the 1st I can keep my healthcare for the month of March with my employer, waiting to make sure I have our health insurance in line. DH retired in June of 21 and I have carried him in my health insurance for the last 15 years because my plan was more cost effective and covered more of his medical needs. We both have a good 401K and other savings that should keep us comfortable, and I have a Health Retirement Account that will also help pay for co-pays for supplementals for at least 3-5 years. I am ready now - my tolerance for 'stupid' people is getting shorter and shorter!
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Post by seaexplore on Dec 10, 2023 16:41:04 GMT
My unpopular opinion is that no taxpayer-funded career should come with a pension since no one in private industry receives one any longer. I can't afford to pay for my retirement and theirs. Hold up there. I'm a teacher who worked for 10 years becoming a teacher and paid into social security. I pay a percentage of every single one of my checks into a state teachers retirement account. Teachers in CA do not pay into social security. In fact, due to the windfall elimination provision, I will not get much social security (in which I am vested) at all. It's crap. Want to talk about paying for others retirement? Let's talk about how teachers get screwed out of THEIR money paid in to social security because they had prior careers to pay for others retirements.
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Post by seaexplore on Dec 10, 2023 16:47:28 GMT
My pension was really the only monetary perk of the teaching career. Not healthcare? I was fortunate to have cheap, excellent insurance over the course of my career. But this must differ substantially by state. In CA, my health care is $24,000/yr ON TOP of my district contribution of $13,000. It's NOT cheap at all!
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Post by Merge on Dec 10, 2023 17:06:31 GMT
I hope to retire from school teaching at the end of this year. I’ll be 51. But I’ll continue to give private music lessons. I wonder if you could make the extra money you need via private tutoring rather than substitute teaching. It’s likely more lucrative and and less stressful. My nephew is a teacher who makes some nice $$ on the side teaching guitar and bass. Teaching private lessons pays MUCH better than teaching in a school. When I was teaching full time, I was too trashed at the end of the day to contemplate giving lessons. But now that I'm down to two days a week at school, the other days are great for lessons and I make in few hours what it takes me all day to make at school. I've made a niche for myself working with younger students and those who are neuro-diverse - all my years of public school teaching have equipped me for those kids while many musicians throw up their hands and don't want to deal with them.
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Post by disneypal on Dec 10, 2023 18:52:38 GMT
I could have retired with full retirement benefits at age 55, but I didn’t feel ready…so I worked 4 more years and recently retired at age 59 (August 1, 2023)
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Post by seaexplore on Dec 10, 2023 21:04:37 GMT
This year will be year 25 in the classroom, I'm turning 50.
I have a 2nd grader and a 7th grader, we owe for 10 more years on the house. I figured that at 60 I can retire. House paid off, youngest graduates HS.
My DH has been "retired" since 2008 mostly. He's a general contractor and real estate broker with a BA in Business Marketing so when the market tanked, his work pretty much disappeared for a few years. He went to culinary school and decided he didn't want to own a restaurant anymore after that. He's built a few houses her and there for people but has been a SAHD since 2011 when we had our first kid.
I carry the insurance and when I retire we will have to live off of my teachers retirement which will not be equal to what I make in my last year(s) of teaching. Teachers NEVER get 100% of their pay in retirement. It's crap.
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Post by 950nancy on Dec 10, 2023 22:34:58 GMT
My pension was really the only monetary perk of the teaching career. Not healthcare? I was fortunate to have cheap, excellent insurance over the course of my career. But this must differ substantially by state. No, healthcare was not cheap at all and my spouse was in the same district as I was and we both paid quite a bit.
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Post by mollycoddle on Dec 11, 2023 11:03:13 GMT
Not healthcare? I was fortunate to have cheap, excellent insurance over the course of my career. But this must differ substantially by state. No, healthcare was not cheap at all and my spouse was in the same district as I was and we both paid quite a bit. It is striking how much teacher’s healthcare differs by state.
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Post by tealpaperowl on Dec 11, 2023 20:46:19 GMT
I'd love to - today. Haha but I'm only 42. I will retire with a pension so that helps, but then again my insurance is amazing too and would be hard to give up. Hopefully around 60 at the latest unless something changes drastically and we become rich LOL! DH likely until 65 or so, he enjoys his work so it may be hard to get him to retire.
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Post by 950nancy on Dec 11, 2023 20:50:15 GMT
No, healthcare was not cheap at all and my spouse was in the same district as I was and we both paid quite a bit. It is striking how much teacher’s healthcare differs by state. Right? My son works for the city and we pay into the same retirement program, but he can get two people insured for half of what I paid for myself 20 years ago. How is that even possible? My employer also paid in half at the time.
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Post by rockymtnpea on Dec 11, 2023 23:25:12 GMT
Nancy950…. Do you mean he pays less for his health insurance now as an active city employee? Is his health insurance provider the same as what the school district has?
If it is the same provider my guess is the city negotiated a better deal for health insurance then the school district did?
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Post by shamrockpea on Dec 12, 2023 5:23:21 GMT
I am 66 and can not retire until my husband who is 5 years younger hits 65. I am a teacher but got into it as a 2nd career. My retirement will be 1% of my pay for every year I have worked. I have worked 17 years and 17% is not much even combined with Social Security.
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Post by hopechest on Dec 12, 2023 16:05:53 GMT
I'm 52 and DH is 54. We plan on working another 12-15 years as we have a 7 year old and would like to be working through college.
However, we have both set ourselves up to be self employed and hopefully that will come with the flexibility to be "semi" retired after about 60.
We plan on delaying social security as long as possible.
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Post by femalebusiness on Dec 12, 2023 17:19:11 GMT
I was around 40 when I retired. I went back to school with my daughter when she started college. My husband retired when he was 65. I am five years younger than him.
He received Medicare when he retired. I went without medical insurance for five years until mine kicked in. It was a calculated gamble but I knew that I had lucked out in the genetics department and we had plenty of savings if I had needed it. Medical problems in my family are extremely rare.
Neither of us had pensions but we paid off our house about 7 years after we bought it and we hadn't had a house payment in decades. Other than utilities we have never had any payments/bills of any type. We have never put anything on payments other than our two homes and those we paid off quickly. We have always lived well within our means and have a large savings that we have never touched, even to this day. Not for any reason except we just haven't needed it. We still save around a thousand a month out of our SS checks. We have always been able to afford anything that we want, but our wants are small.
I got a call from my husband's secretary one day asking if we had deposited his last paycheck because it hadn’t shown up on her books. I started looking around and it was buried under a pile of papers on his desk here at home. I would have found it eventually but we just didn’t need it so I didn't notice. We have remodeled and done a lot of other work on our house over the years but we do all of the work. My husband can do anything and he taught me. I even roofed my house while he was still working. He helped me on the weekends as it took about three weeks to finish it. He does all of the work on our cars. We both love working on our house and cars.
Luckily we both have always been on the same page financially. One of our goals when we first married was to have enough money that we never had to stay in a job that we hated and that we could afford anything that we wanted. Neither of us wanted be forced to stay in a job we hated just for the paycheck. We saved like crazy the first few years we were married and then everything was easy after that.
Our main goal has always been to spend as much time as possible together. Being retired is the best thing ever as we are now together 24/7. We love retirement.
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Post by anniefb on Dec 12, 2023 18:07:39 GMT
I plan to retire at 63, 3 years from now. I won't collect government superannuation until 65 but have savings/investments. I'm a lawyer and my work seems to get busier and more stressful every year. I now have RA so would like to make some changes to reduce that. Have considered trying to work part time and continue for a bit longer but that's really hard to do in my area of the law - inevitably I'd work more than part time and not be paid for it. and I would love to have more time to do the things I enjoy instead of constantly working.
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Post by katlady on Dec 12, 2023 18:15:35 GMT
I have all these plans for when I retire and I just hope I don't end up sitting around thinking ... what to do today?
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