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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 15, 2024 1:50:49 GMT
^^^^ She wasn't thinking with her brain!! ^^^^
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 15, 2024 2:11:24 GMT
This gives me no joy to say, but the GA RICO case is in serious jeopardy. I hope the hearing tomorrow is on YT because I want to watch the whole thing. If Willis is disqualified that means the whole Fulton County DA’s Office is disqualified. As to whether another county will take up the case is a big question mark. If no other county steps up, that case will be dismissed in its entirety. I was worried about Trump's case but hadn't even considered what would happen to the other cases. It started so strong, the evidence seemed really solid. I was optimistic because it was a state case without the potential for a presidential pardon. Thank you for your post, I always appreciate your perspective, especially in regard to legal matters. |
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 15, 2024 2:35:32 GMT
This gives me no joy to say, but the GA RICO case is in serious jeopardy. I hope the hearing tomorrow is on YT because I want to watch the whole thing. If Willis is disqualified that means the whole Fulton County DA’s Office is disqualified. As to whether another county will take up the case is a big question mark. If no other county steps up, that case will be dismissed in its entirety. I was worried about Trump's case but hadn't even considered what would happen to the other cases. It started so strong, the evidence seemed really solid. I was optimistic because it was a state case without the potential for a presidential pardon. Thank you for your post, I always appreciate your perspective, especially in regard to legal matters. I was optimistic, too! I considered this the fallback in case we bomb in DC. It’s serious stuff, AJ. If proven, this is corruption (self-dealing/kickbacks). I wasn’t too worried about this last month because I didn’t see any evidence. (Although I thought hiring Wade was a very bad idea from the get-go.) But I read the recent filings this week and there they are. Invoice after invoice after invoice. And I watched today's hearing in GA--Roman's atty said they have bank statements. Gawd. I don’t know. I’m out of words. In a very high-profile case like this, you just don’t do anything that could cause even a whiff of impropriety. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 15, 2024 3:30:04 GMT
I was worried about Trump's case but hadn't even considered what would happen to the other cases. It started so strong, the evidence seemed really solid. I was optimistic because it was a state case without the potential for a presidential pardon. Thank you for your post, I always appreciate your perspective, especially in regard to legal matters. I was optimistic, too! I considered this the fallback in case we bomb in DC. It’s serious stuff, AJ. If proven, this is corruption (self-dealing/kickbacks). I wasn’t too worried about this last month because I didn’t see any evidence. (Although I thought hiring Wade was a very bad idea from the get-go.) But I read the recent filings this week and there they are. Invoice after invoice after invoice. And I watched today's hearing in GA--Roman's atty said they have bank statements. Gawd. I don’t know. I’m out of words. In a very high-profile case like this, you just don’t do anything that could cause even a whiff of impropriety. This on top of the story, true or note, of her possible relationship with a gang member. Was that a warning? Where was it available to watch today? |
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 15, 2024 4:04:56 GMT
I was optimistic, too! I considered this the fallback in case we bomb in DC. It’s serious stuff, AJ. If proven, this is corruption (self-dealing/kickbacks). I wasn’t too worried about this last month because I didn’t see any evidence. (Although I thought hiring Wade was a very bad idea from the get-go.) But I read the recent filings this week and there they are. Invoice after invoice after invoice. And I watched today's hearing in GA--Roman's atty said they have bank statements. Gawd. I don’t know. I’m out of words. In a very high-profile case like this, you just don’t do anything that could cause even a whiff of impropriety. This on top of the story, true or note, of her possible relationship with a gang member. Was that a warning? Where was it available to watch today? On YouTube. The Hill. link |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 15, 2024 5:01:04 GMT
Thank you!
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 15, 2024 15:01:08 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 15, 2024 15:42:16 GMT
Live on CNN... Fulton County hearing..
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 15, 2024 16:15:07 GMT
Habba, Habba, Habba .... About the NY fraud case, with Judge Engoron possible ruling due tomorrow.
Says .."I don't have high hopes!"
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 15, 2024 16:30:33 GMT
Habba, Habba, Habba .... About the NY fraud case, with Judge Engoron possible ruling due tomorrow. Says .."I don't have high hopes!" Tomorrow? Wow. That’s quick. I thought we wouldn’t hear anything until next month. Possible $370M, no? If he appeals it's a 120% bond in NY. Ain’t a joke for this joker. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 15, 2024 16:41:19 GMT
Habba, Habba, Habba .... About the NY fraud case, with Judge Engoron possible ruling due tomorrow. Says .."I don't have high hopes!" Tomorrow? Wow. That’s quick. I thought we wouldn’t hear anything until next month. Possible $370M, no? If he appeals it's a 120% bond in NY. Ain’t a joke for this joker. Seems so... Engoron is expected to rule on it Friday. James is seeking $370 million in fines and a ban on the Trump Organization doing business in the state of New York. www.rawstory.com/alina-habba-2667289299/ |
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 15, 2024 17:32:49 GMT
Live on CNN... Fulton County hearing.. I wish they cc’d this for the hearing impaired. There are times when people are speaking without a mic. I don’t know why there’s so much emphasis on when exactly Willis and Wade began their relationship. This is not about the relationship per se. Whether it was earlier or later, the issue is was there self-dealing? Was there misconduct? The decision to hire Wade was not wise, but the relationship itself is not a basis for disqualification. Okay, Wade said Willis reimbursed him in cash for half the costs. No problem, then. All Willis has to do is show her receipts—Venmo, ATM, withdrawals, wires, whatever. What do you think? |
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Post by samantha25 on Feb 15, 2024 17:47:52 GMT
It would be good for Fani to show cash withdrawals that correlate to trips. Can you get cash without some type of trail? I thought Wade was believable and was not expecting his testimony to be believed. Can't wait for the cross.
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 15, 2024 17:58:39 GMT
It would be good for Fani to show cash withdrawals that correlate to trips. Can you get cash without some type of trail? I thought Wade was believable and was not expecting his testimony to be believed. Can't wait for the cross. The costs were in thousands because there were several trips/vacations. Unless you’re someone who squirrels away large amounts at home, you’d have something to show a withdrawal or transfer, right? If you don’t keep receipts, they’d still be on your bank statements. (And what the heck does Wade’s divorce have to do with this?! Who cares?) |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 15, 2024 18:02:11 GMT
I could show some withdrawals from my bank account, credit card or PayPal, but, nothing else. Back to 2021 would be an major effort dealing with the bank....
But I also have some cash on hand...
Love blinds people... She just did it because there was trust. Not sure she has the info saved.
Betrayal happens too!!
Years ago I was buying food ect, even car insurance for a friend, or I thought he was a friend, who needed assistance. But am still owed over $2000, because I did not have receipts for groceries, and other misc stuff, and he and his brother demanded receipts. Fortunately I got most of the money back.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 15, 2024 18:04:38 GMT
lizacreatesHis divorced has his financial info in sworn affidavits(?) on income particularly if there would be child support and/or alimony, division of assets?
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 15, 2024 18:14:17 GMT
lizacreates His divorced has his financial info in sworn affidavits(?) on income particularly if there would be child support and/or alimony, division of assets? Okay, but what does that have to do as to whether Willis was “enriched” by Wade’s hiring or not? |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 15, 2024 18:16:11 GMT
lizacreates His divorced has his financial info in sworn affidavits(?) on income particularly if there would be child support and/or alimony, division of assets? Okay, but what does that have to do as to whether Willis was “enriched” by Wade’s hiring or not? I have no clue. Now they are talking sex.... Oh wait the lawyer is calling it entertaining.... |
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 15, 2024 18:21:52 GMT
Okay, but what does that have to do as to whether Willis was “enriched” by Wade’s hiring or not? I have no clue. Now they are talking sex.... Oh wait the lawyer is calling it entertaining.... This is shit. This is just salacious shit. Sex, no sex, cohabitated, not cohabitated, whatever. None of that crap has anything to do with the alleged misconduct. |
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 15, 2024 18:54:43 GMT
Will this be streamed, do you know? (IMO, all of them should be streamed, including federal. It’s in the public interest for people to see these trials. I hate when I have to depend on news reports. I want to watch and hear for myself.) Anyway, I’ll follow this closely because to be frank, I still can’t wrap my head around this case. They’re misdemeanors. In order for them to be felonies (first-degree falsifying of business records with intent to defraud), there has to be an underlying crime. A predicate, in other words. In this specific case, Trump was covering up a crime by falsifying business records. The falsifying is easy to understand. It’s well-known Trump and Cohen went through this convoluted scheme of booking the payments to Stormy as payments to Cohen for legal services. However, what is the predicate crime? That’s my main difficulty in understanding this. Bragg has never specified. He had hinted that it has something to do with a campaign violation. But IF the predicate is a campaign finance violation pertaining to a campaign for federal office, that’s a federal case, not state because of the preemption clause in the federal statute. He also hinted something about “tax fraud.” But, where exactly does tax fraud come in? Needless to say, the trial will answer my questions, but at this specific moment, I don’t understand this case. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 15, 2024 19:23:56 GMT
I have no clue. Now they are talking sex.... Oh wait the lawyer is calling it entertaining.... This is shit. This is just salacious shit. Sex, no sex, cohabitated, not cohabitated, whatever. None of that crap has anything to do with the alleged misconduct. It is a good thing I am not testifying. I would be a raging loon... |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 15, 2024 20:07:55 GMT
Fani Willis is on the stand right now!
I sure she keeps her cool!!!
ETA: She is not doing herself any favors. Talking too much. Combative.
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Post by samantha25 on Feb 15, 2024 20:32:50 GMT
Oh yeah... Fani does have a stash of cash at her house.
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Post by lizacreates on Feb 15, 2024 20:51:50 GMT
It’s getting ugly. They all need to calm down. Okay. I’m glad judge reminded everybody they’re all lawyers there and they need to be professional and maintain decorum. I know Willis is upset, but she needs to just breathe first.
(I don't know why it shows I liked my own post. My finger must have slipped.)
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Post by papersilly on Feb 15, 2024 21:20:35 GMT
i've been listening to the proceedings all day. very very interesting. Fani is sounding very feisty yet still professional. she must be pissed but she's still very concise and succinct in her answers. i think she's doing better on the stand than Mr. Wade did.
ETA: i don't think she should have every hired Mr. Wade knowing they had any semblance of a personal relationship. i also don't think the root of bringing up this matter was truly the original defendant (i don't remember his name). i think trump's investigators did a deep dive on the whole prosecution team and they found out about the relationship. they probably passed the info onto that defendant and then jumped onto the band wagon when it became a serious issue. as innocent as she thinks their relationship was, she shouldn't have hired Mr. Wade because stuff like this has a tendency to come out and get scrutinized.
if they decide to remove her and Mr. Wade, i still think the interference case should proceed. those facts and evidence stand regardless of who is heading the prosecution.
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Post by papersilly on Feb 15, 2024 21:29:10 GMT
Oh yeah... Fani does have a stash of cash at her house. what woman doesn't?  |
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Post by samantha25 on Feb 15, 2024 21:39:22 GMT
Woah! Only thing a woman can do is make a sandwich, or something like that!
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Post by samantha25 on Feb 15, 2024 21:45:54 GMT
Woah, did she imply that Wade had prostate or another cancer that she doesn't want to emasculate a Black man?
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 15, 2024 21:49:02 GMT
Will this be streamed, do you know? (IMO, all of them should be streamed, including federal. It’s in the public interest for people to see these trials. I hate when I have to depend on news reports. I want to watch and hear for myself.) Anyway, I’ll follow this closely because to be frank, I still can’t wrap my head around this case. They’re misdemeanors. In order for them to be felonies (first-degree falsifying of business records with intent to defraud), there has to be an underlying crime. A predicate, in other words. In this specific case, Trump was covering up a crime by falsifying business records. The falsifying is easy to understand. It’s well-known Trump and Cohen went through this convoluted scheme of booking the payments to Stormy as payments to Cohen for legal services. However, what is the predicate crime? That’s my main difficulty in understanding this. Bragg has never specified. He had hinted that it has something to do with a campaign violation. But IF the predicate is a campaign finance violation pertaining to a campaign for federal office, that’s a federal case, not state because of the preemption clause in the federal statute. He also hinted something about “tax fraud.” But, where exactly does tax fraud come in? Needless to say, the trial will answer my questions, but at this specific moment, I don’t understand this case. Unfortunately, no the trial won't be televised. Here's what I found www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68309680Will the trial be televised?
New York is one of only three jurisdictions in the country that bans nearly all audio visual coverage in trials, although it made a brief exception for audio during the pandemic.
Judges have discretion over letting cameras into their courtrooms, and we did catch brief glimpses of Mr Trump's civil fraud trial on most days.
But Justice Merchan has not allowed cameras in his courtroom during preliminary hearings and he appears unlikely to reverse course when the trial begins.
That means - despite the intense public interest - only a few members of the public and the press inside the Manhattan courthouse will be able to watch the prosecution of Mr Trump.
The rest of us will have to rely on media reports, sketch art and, in all likelihood, Mr Trump's online posts to colour in the scene each day.
And a little more about the upcoming trial date and maybe a hint about the crime? www.nytimes.com/2024/02/15/nyregion/trump-manhattan-criminal-case.htmlJustice Merchan’s ruling also represented a forceful rejection of Mr. Trump’s most battle-tested legal strategy: running out the clock. Facing a lengthy legal docket in courtrooms up and down the East Coast, Mr. Trump has sought to turn the calendar to his advantage, pushing for appeals and delays until November, on the assumption that the cases will halt if he is elected.
His lawyers objected fiercely to the judge’s decision that jury selection should begin on March 25, noting that the six-week trial would conflict with Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign and with other court cases.
One of the former president’s lawyers, Todd Blanche, called the schedule “unfathomable,” arguing that “we are in the middle of primary season,” and claiming that the trial would overlap with dozens of Republican primaries and caucuses.
But Justice Merchan was impatient with such arguments. From the beginning of the hearing, the judge bristled at Mr. Blanche’s opposition to the date, at one point instructing him to “stop interrupting me, please.” He allowed Mr. Blanche little leeway to filibuster on behalf of his client, as Mr. Trump’s lawyers often do.
Mr. Trump’s lawyers had argued that Justice Merchan should throw out the case, calling Mr. Cohen a liar and disputing whether the charges should even be felonies. For falsifying business records to be a felony, Mr. Bragg’s prosecutors must show that Mr. Trump intended to commit or conceal another crime.
The prosecutors have invoked potential violations of federal election law — under the theory that the payout served as an illegal donation to Mr. Trump’s campaign — as well as a state election law that bars any conspiracy to promote “the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.” Justice Merchan endorsed that theory of the case. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Feb 16, 2024 1:07:10 GMT
Oh yeah... Fani does have a stash of cash at her house. I do. In fact, more then I should. |
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