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Post by lisacharlotte on Jan 18, 2024 4:57:00 GMT
Hmm, my first thought was tummy tuck. I don't know what tummy they would tuck. She very thin and wears close fitting clothes and there is nothing to remove. I'm guessing whatever the issue is it's turned out to be much more complicated than originally thought. I'm with mom and think it's probably something related to intestines/bowel and it's open surgery not laparoscopic. I also think the 10-14 days is probably the conservative estimate, but probably won't be that long. Also, that type of surgery is slow to recover from which would fit the out until Easter timeline.
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 18, 2024 6:17:21 GMT
Hmm, my first thought was tummy tuck. What? She’s skinny AF with zero tummy. I hate all the speculation on the nature of her surgery while she’s begging for privacy. And tummy tucks have 10-14 day hospital stays since when? Geez if she wanted a tummy tuck it would have happened when Louis was born and she was already on maternity leave and out of the public eye. Like they’d just schedule a cosmetic procedure while the King is also having surgery. Speculating like this is just awful.
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Post by used2scrap on Jan 18, 2024 6:30:04 GMT
I wonder if she just would like to take some time to heal and spend as much time with the kids as possible. Wishing her well. Yeah cuz she couldn’t have round the clock care at home and rest. I don’t understand everyone trying to denigrate and minimize what’s clearly a serious medical event from a woman begging for her privacy. Where’s the same speculation that the King’s Prostate surgery is really a butt lift? Geez
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Post by Bridget in MD on Jan 18, 2024 12:49:38 GMT
Where’s the same speculation that the King’s Prostate surgery is really a butt lift? Geez LOL when I heard about the King going in, my first thought was that scene in Coming to America, when the dude pops up and says "The Royal Penis is clean"
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Post by lisae on Jan 18, 2024 12:59:47 GMT
I think the best wishes we could give the Princess is to stop speculating at what may be wrong with her, why she needed so many days in the hospital, if she just wanted a break from her kids, etc. She is choosing not to share her personal medical information with the world which is her right. Maybe some day she will disclose what her surgery was about though if I had to bet, someone will leak it for her. And she might become the face for whatever malady or elective procedure she has chosen. Or she might not.
It is her body, her choice. Respect her and all women enough to leave her alone.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jan 18, 2024 14:43:54 GMT
I wonder if she just would like to take some time to heal and spend as much time with the kids as possible. Wishing her well. Yeah cuz she couldn’t have round the clock care at home and rest. I don’t understand everyone trying to denigrate and minimize what’s clearly a serious medical event from a woman begging for her privacy. Where’s the same speculation that the King’s Prostate surgery is really a butt lift? Geez It was one pea who said that and was called out for it. Most peas seem genuinely concerned and wish her the best. It is human nature to speculate when vague information is posted. I think the tummy tuck speculation is ridiculous and gross as well, but I don't see "everyone trying to denigrate and minimize " here. I see one pea doing that.
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Post by maryannscraps on Jan 18, 2024 14:59:15 GMT
I hope she recovers quickly. The abdomen contains a lot of organs and muscles, so I think speculating is pretty useless if she isn’t making it public. As far as the long recovery, my daughter’s friend was in the hospital for 10 days when she had a major repair for a hernia and problem with her abdominal muscles after childbirth. It was pretty extensive and took her a long time to recover. She didn’t even have any complications.
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Post by Merge on Jan 18, 2024 15:12:20 GMT
Hmm, my first thought was tummy tuck. What? She’s skinny AF with zero tummy. I hate all the speculation on the nature of her surgery while she’s begging for privacy. And tummy tucks have 10-14 day hospital stays since when? Geez if she wanted a tummy tuck it would have happened when Louis was born and she was already on maternity leave and out of the public eye. Like they’d just schedule a cosmetic procedure while the King is also having surgery. Speculating like this is just awful. LOL OK. I've known skinny women who get surgery to fix the loose skin or abdominal muscle separation from their pregnancies. I'm not judging her if that's the case. She can do as she likes. I have no idea how long the recovery time is for such things. I'm not sure why speculating about a gallbladder or bowel issue is fine, but guessing tummy tuck is beyond the pale? Y'all carry on.
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Post by sideways on Jan 18, 2024 17:48:22 GMT
What? She’s skinny AF with zero tummy. I hate all the speculation on the nature of her surgery while she’s begging for privacy. And tummy tucks have 10-14 day hospital stays since when? Geez if she wanted a tummy tuck it would have happened when Louis was born and she was already on maternity leave and out of the public eye. Like they’d just schedule a cosmetic procedure while the King is also having surgery. Speculating like this is just awful. LOL OK. I've known skinny women who get surgery to fix the loose skin or abdominal muscle separation from their pregnancies. I'm not judging her if that's the case. She can do as she likes. I have no idea how long the recovery time is for such things. I'm not sure why speculating about a gallbladder or bowel issue is fine, but guessing tummy tuck is beyond the pale? Y'all carry on. I don’t get it either. Why is getting a tummy tuck seen as a negative? I’m also LOL-ing at a certain pot calling the kettle black in terms of saying someone else is rude. 🤣 I hope Catherine has a smooth, uneventful, quick recovery.
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Post by papersilly on Jan 18, 2024 18:00:16 GMT
it's the length of stay in the hospital that has me curious. you would think she would be able to get the best in-home medical support possible. i just wonder because they guard their privacy so much that this much time out in "public" makes me think it's more serious than they let on. whatever the reason, i hope she gets all the rest and time to recover as possible. she doesn't need to rush back to royal duties. that's what the others are there for. her health is more important.
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Post by myshelly on Jan 18, 2024 18:13:59 GMT
Hmm, my first thought was tummy tuck. This is gross and rude with a side of low key misogynistic. Why do we need to be like this to other women?
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 18, 2024 19:21:39 GMT
I wonder if she just would like to take some time to heal and spend as much time with the kids as possible. Wishing her well. Yeah cuz she couldn’t have round the clock care at home and rest. I don’t understand everyone trying to denigrate and minimize what’s clearly a serious medical event from a woman begging for her privacy. Where’s the same speculation that the King’s Prostate surgery is really a butt lift? Geez I was talking about why she'd take off two months after whatever surgery it is. It could be anything. We're human and we speculate. I mean it is a message board filled with lots of speculation about thousands of topics. I just wish her well.
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Post by pilcas on Jan 18, 2024 19:42:37 GMT
I had an emergency gall bladder removal in the 90s. I spent 4-5 days in the hospital. But I was given a no work for 6 weeks order and I’m no princess. I don’t know when Easter is this year but it must be around 12 weeks. So it doesn’t seem like such a long time. Her royal engagements usually require standing and high heels and possibly travel so why not take off as long as she wants.
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Post by sueg on Jan 18, 2024 19:50:21 GMT
I had an emergency gall bladder removal in the 90s. I spent 4-5 days in the hospital. But I was given a no work for 6 weeks order and I’m no princess. I don’t know when Easter is this year but it must be around 12 weeks. So it doesn’t seem like such a long time. Her royal engagements usually require standing and high heels and possibly travel so why not take off as long as she wants. Easter is early this year - last weekend of March - so not much more than 2 months away, maybe 10 weeks.
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Post by Basket1lady on Jan 18, 2024 19:52:23 GMT
I had an emergency gall bladder removal in the 90s. I spent 4-5 days in the hospital. But I was given a no work for 6 weeks order and I’m no princess. I don’t know when Easter is this year but it must be around 12 weeks. So it doesn’t seem like such a long time. Her royal engagements usually require standing and high heels and possibly travel so why not take off as long as she wants. It’s about 10 1/2 weeks from now—March 31st. And the kids will be on school holiday. UK schools generally get a 2 week break. I’d guess that those plans fall at the end of her recovery and she wanted to spend that time with her family. I also wonder if they felt that it was better to have her go back ready to go full time vs piecing her events together, picking and choosing what she does or does not attend and offending those who weren’t chosen.
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Post by Merge on Jan 18, 2024 21:08:01 GMT
Hmm, my first thought was tummy tuck. This is gross and rude with a side of low key misogynistic. Why do we need to be like this to other women? Why? Many women get surgery for loose skin or separated abdominal muscles when they are done having kids. There’s no shame in it. Why is this more rude than speculating about her inner organs? Makes no sense. To me it’s misogynistic to believe there’s something shameful in a woman having a tummy tuck. Women can do as they like with their own bodies. FWIW, if I had her money I’d have a tummy tuck and breast reduction/lift and wouldn’t hesitate to tell anyone who wanted to know. I have seen celebrity plastic surgery discussed on this board numerous times, often disparagingly, with no one saying boo about it. What makes this different? Because she’s a royal? She’s a public figure, not someone’s underage child.
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Post by myshelly on Jan 18, 2024 21:37:07 GMT
This is gross and rude with a side of low key misogynistic. Why do we need to be like this to other women? Why? Many women get surgery for loose skin or separated abdominal muscles when they are done having kids. There’s no shame in it. Why is this more rude than speculating about her inner organs? Makes no sense. To me it’s misogynistic to believe there’s something shameful in a woman having a tummy tuck. Women can do as they like with their own bodies. FWIW, if I had her money I’d have a tummy tuck and breast reduction/lift and wouldn’t hesitate to tell anyone who wanted to know. I have seen celebrity plastic surgery discussed on this board numerous times, often disparagingly, with no one saying boo about it. What makes this different? Because she’s a royal? She’s a public figure, not someone’s underage child. It’s misogynistic because you wouldn’t say it about a man. If the press release said Prince William was out for 6 weeks because of a surgery your comment wouldn’t be “my first thought was tummy tuck.” Your first reaction about her having a health issue was to criticize her body.
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Post by Merge on Jan 18, 2024 21:39:38 GMT
Why? Many women get surgery for loose skin or separated abdominal muscles when they are done having kids. There’s no shame in it. Why is this more rude than speculating about her inner organs? Makes no sense. To me it’s misogynistic to believe there’s something shameful in a woman having a tummy tuck. Women can do as they like with their own bodies. FWIW, if I had her money I’d have a tummy tuck and breast reduction/lift and wouldn’t hesitate to tell anyone who wanted to know. I have seen celebrity plastic surgery discussed on this board numerous times, often disparagingly, with no one saying boo about it. What makes this different? Because she’s a royal? She’s a public figure, not someone’s underage child. It’s misogynistic because you wouldn’t say it about a man. If the press release said Prince William was out for 6 weeks because of a surgery your comment wouldn’t be “my first thought was tummy tuck.” Your first reaction about her having a health issue was to criticize her body. You took it as criticism. Noting that a woman who is frequently in the public eye might want to mitigate the normal physical effects of pregnancy and keep her decision from the public and press is not a criticism to me. It is accurate that men feel much less pressure to look perfect and have plastic surgery for that reason much more rarely. That's why most wouldn't speculate that about a man. We all know the effect the criticism of the British press had on Diana. Do you imagine that the press there has changed, or that Kate is immune to wanting to appear as she has always appeared to avoid their nasty remarks? ETA: I find all this quite amusing from a member who has frequently talked down about women who don't dress to meet her expectations in public, commented that no woman looks good in jeans, etc. Misogyny indeed.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 18, 2024 22:22:16 GMT
I think the best wishes we could give the Princess is to stop speculating at what may be wrong with her, why she needed so many days in the hospital, if she just wanted a break from her kids, etc. She is choosing not to share her personal medical information with the world which is her right. Maybe some day she will disclose what her surgery was about though if I had to bet, someone will leak it for her. And she might become the face for whatever malady or elective procedure she has chosen. Or she might not. It is her body, her choice. Respect her and all women enough to leave her alone. OH FFS...no wonder this board is dying a slow, painful death. Every 2nd topic that isn't a list of stuff, what's for dinner or a stupid game with no discussion wanted or required, has one of the handslappers out trying to shame people. If it's a non popular celeb then there's accusations of being obsessed or a hater...or racist. If it's a well liked celeb, then you're invading their privacy and have no respect for them. Suddenly all famous people are god like creatures that us plebs are no longer permitted to discuss. It makes me wonder if you people have any actual conversation with people around you in your real lives? Do you talk about world issues, people in the media, famous people doing good and/or bad things? Good grief, talk about overly dramatic... No-one said she isn't entitled to privacy, and I am 100% sure neither she or anyone in her family has ever heard of 2Peas. She doesn't GAF if anyone here sends their best wishes or not No-one here is reading her medical records or going through her garbage. Even with people speculating...her privacy remains completely intact. She is one of the most well known women in the world, they made a public announcement that she had abdominal surgery, so speculating about what is might be is 100% normal and not disrespectful in the least...and even posters who say stuff that not everyone agrees with can still participate, they are free to say what they think and others are free to tell them why we don't agree. It's called a conversation. Charles isn't getting the same speculation not because of misogyny, but because they already told us which specific body part he is getting treated. IF they just said he's had "surgery" - he'd be getting the exact same speculation. In fact I was a little surprised that they said it was prostate issues...but good for him, maybe him being public about having prostate issues might encourage some men to get examined too.
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Post by sideways on Jan 18, 2024 22:29:20 GMT
Why? Many women get surgery for loose skin or separated abdominal muscles when they are done having kids. There’s no shame in it. Why is this more rude than speculating about her inner organs? Makes no sense. To me it’s misogynistic to believe there’s something shameful in a woman having a tummy tuck. Women can do as they like with their own bodies. FWIW, if I had her money I’d have a tummy tuck and breast reduction/lift and wouldn’t hesitate to tell anyone who wanted to know. I have seen celebrity plastic surgery discussed on this board numerous times, often disparagingly, with no one saying boo about it. What makes this different? Because she’s a royal? She’s a public figure, not someone’s underage child. It’s misogynistic because you wouldn’t say it about a man. If the press release said Prince William was out for 6 weeks because of a surgery your comment wouldn’t be “my first thought was tummy tuck.” Your first reaction about her having a health issue was to criticize her body. Where is the criticism?
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Post by gar on Jan 18, 2024 22:53:38 GMT
I think the best wishes we could give the Princess is to stop speculating at what may be wrong with her, why she needed so many days in the hospital, if she just wanted a break from her kids, etc. She is choosing not to share her personal medical information with the world which is her right. Maybe some day she will disclose what her surgery was about though if I had to bet, someone will leak it for her. And she might become the face for whatever malady or elective procedure she has chosen. Or she might not. It is her body, her choice. Respect her and all women enough to leave her alone. OH FFS...no wonder this board is dying a slow, painful death. Every 2nd topic that isn't a list of stuff, what's for dinner or a stupid game with no discussion wanted or required, has one of the handslappers out trying to shame people. If it's a non popular celeb then there's accusations of being obsessed or a hater...or racist. If it's a well liked celeb, then you're invading their privacy and have no respect for them. Suddenly all famous people are god like creatures that us plebs are no longer permitted to discuss. It makes me wonder if you people have any actual conversation with people around you in your real lives? Do you talk about world issues, people in the media, famous people doing good and/or bad things? Good grief, talk about overly dramatic... No-one said she isn't entitled to privacy, and I am 100% sure neither she or anyone in her family has ever heard of 2Peas. She doesn't GAF if anyone here sends their best wishes or not No-one here is reading her medical records or going through her garbage. Even with people speculating...her privacy remains completely intact. She is one of the most well known women in the world, they made a public announcement that she had abdominal surgery, so speculating about what is might be is 100% normal and not disrespectful in the least...and even posters who say stuff that not everyone agrees with can still participate, they are free to say what they think and others are free to tell them why we don't agree. It's called a conversation. Charles isn't getting the same speculation not because of misogyny, but because they already told us which specific body part he is getting treated. IF they just said he's had "surgery" - he'd be getting the exact same speculation. In fact I was a little surprised that they said it was prostate issues...but good for him, maybe him being public about having prostate issues might encourage some men to get examined too. The reason he specifically disclosed his treatment was for exactly that reason. Hits on the NHS website for prostate information was up markedly today apparently.
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Post by sawwhet on Jan 19, 2024 1:50:40 GMT
When my appendix burst during a trip to Scotland, I was hospitalized for 6 days. If it had been the US, I would have been gone within a day or two so maybe the stays in the UK are automatically longer than what we are used to in the States. I had to beg them to let me leave, promising that I would just get room service and stay in my hotel room. I had surgery at 7 am and went home at noon!! It was laparoscopic so no major incision. To be honest, I was quite happy with this arrangement. Sleeping in my own bed with my family bringing me drinks.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jan 19, 2024 7:13:14 GMT
Since the beginning of the original pea board to currently.....there has been and always will be one or two or ten members.....that want to dictate and control what can or cannot be said or talked about. Self appointed pea police, hand slappers, shamers, etc.... As well as those who label threads and those who un-label threads. It's happened on many threads throughout the years. Just my personal opinion......I think, unless the Admin says something is off-limits......then each and every member should be able to discuss, offer an opinion, contribute, say whatever they want on whatever the subject matter. I ignore the ones who try to dictate what can or cannot be discussed or talked about. I've been hand-slapped a couple times in recent months and in the past. Whatever!
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Post by RosieKat on Jan 19, 2024 17:49:58 GMT
Her royal engagements usually require standing and high heels . I figure that's part of why she's taking significant time off. She'd be criticized beyond measure if she showed up in flats and needed to sit more, so she needs to be 100% able to carry that workload before she ventures back out. And so much abdominal surgery requires a certain amount of resting of the core muscles afterward so that you don't damage or re-damage the area that it could well be that she isn't allowed to wear heels or stand for too long for a while. And frankly, she may also wish to get toned back up after resting, again to stave off public critique.
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Post by pjaye on Jan 20, 2024 7:59:11 GMT
OK...I have a wild new theory. We were talking about it at work and trying to work out what would necessitate such a long time in hospital, with a bit of brainstorming from several nurses (including one who works with babies) someone suggested she might be on bedrest for an at risk pregnancy. Now that makes quite a bit of sense to me, a small procedure for a pregnancy...maybe a cervical suture? and strict bed rest & continual monitoring...and with her history of severe morning sickness, that would be dealt with as well. Then not seeing her until after Easter would give them the time to see if the pregnancy was viable, then it would be safe to announce it when she is 5-ish months along...or they could release another statement that she isn't ready to retune to public engagements yet. If the pregnancy is not viable, it would protect her from having to deal with this in the public eye, unless they decide to share that information at some point in the future.
So that's where my 'educated guess' is at now, a 'surprise' pregnancy with some complications. If all goes well 🤞, we'll know in about 6-7 months.
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Post by gillyp on Jan 20, 2024 9:28:01 GMT
That IS a bit wild pjaye but you’ve been correct about other things so who knows?! There was talk a while ago of them having a fourth child and, given her age and previous complications, an extended hospital stay would seem to fit that speculation. Good luck to her no matter what her situation is.
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Post by Linda on Jan 20, 2024 15:33:36 GMT
Her royal engagements usually require standing and high heels . I figure that's part of why she's taking significant time off. She'd be criticized beyond measure if she showed up in flats and needed to sit more, so she needs to be 100% able to carry that workload before she ventures back out. And so much abdominal surgery requires a certain amount of resting of the core muscles afterward so that you don't damage or re-damage the area that it could well be that she isn't allowed to wear heels or stand for too long for a while. And frankly, she may also wish to get toned back up after resting, again to stave off public critique. She also does quite a few engagements with small children - where she's squatting down at their eye level (in heels no less) -and active ones - where she's once again in heels and playing sports. I suspect it's a bit harder to ease back into that sort of work after major surgery than if she had a desk job and could sit all day.
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Post by peasapie on Jan 20, 2024 18:07:19 GMT
I was in the hospital for five days for a hysterectomy but I could have used another week there with the pain and possibility of infection. Whatever her surgery was for, my best wishes are with her. Happy to read her husband is staying home with the kids.
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Post by manomo on Jan 21, 2024 0:41:08 GMT
I was wondering about surgery for Crohn's disease until I read the theory from pjaye. In my mind, it's the one speculation that explains the desire for such privacy especially since Charles has been transparent about his own procedure.
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Post by Tearisci on Jan 21, 2024 2:37:40 GMT
When my appendix burst during a trip to Scotland, I was hospitalized for 6 days. If it had been the US, I would have been gone within a day or two so maybe the stays in the UK are automatically longer than what we are used to in the States. I had to beg them to let me leave, promising that I would just get room service and stay in my hotel room. I had surgery at 7 am and went home at noon!! It was laparoscopic so no major incision. To be honest, I was quite happy with this arrangement. Sleeping in my own bed with my family bringing me drinks. Same here! It was laparoscopic just cleaning out the bits that had burst. I couldn't believe they kept me so long! I was ready to go!
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