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Post by Merge on Feb 1, 2024 19:15:48 GMT
Some even claim that women can’t get pregnant from a rape. Students for Life president Kristan Hawkins, for example—who has been celebrated as the future of the anti-abortion movement—says that “sexual assault actually helps prevent a lot of pregnancies itself because of your body’s natural response.” That’s not how a female body works biologically. If it was we wouldn’t need birth control. Tell me you know nothing about female biology without telling me you know nothing. AND the worst part is they keep the knowledge of how female biology works from their female children keeping them in the dark about how pregnancy actually occurs. Setting them up for failure. That allows them to claim that no one gets pregnant from rape so no one needs an abortion for that reason. The right meets any claim of rape or SA with extreme skepticism - women are assumed to be lying or to have been “asking for it.” If they get pregnant due to rape, well then it wasn’t really rape and she’s lying. 🙄😡
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Post by RosieKat on Feb 5, 2024 20:12:41 GMT
And an educated woman with a Masters degree told me some women use abortion in place of birth control. Well, having known two women who did use it as such and stated as much in so many words directly to me, I can't completely disagree and say that's wrong. But no, that's the tiny, probably statistically insignificant minority. I kind of have to laugh - all of this outlawing of abortion has probably done more to make me support abortion rights than had they just left it all alone.
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Post by dawnnikol on Feb 8, 2024 11:42:00 GMT
In case you can't see the Bird App:
"Republicans in Missouri have drafted an amendment to ban women for life from accessing Medicaid if that woman has ever had an abortion."
Pro-Birth Party at work.
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Post by Merge on Feb 8, 2024 12:42:51 GMT
In case you can't see the Bird App: "Republicans in Missouri have drafted an amendment to ban women for life from accessing Medicaid if that woman has ever had an abortion." Pro-Birth Party at work. Wow. Saying out loud that this is primarily a war on poor women.
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Post by smasonnc on Feb 8, 2024 15:07:05 GMT
I had a man on Twitter tell me it was easy to avoid pregnancy - women just need to "keep their legs closed during the two days per month they can get pregnant." This is the kind of catchphrase that comes in through the ears and goes out through the keyboard, completely bypassing the brain. I have no more interest in trying to educate a dumb@$$ like that on social media than I have in hitting myself on the head with a hammer. Who am I to think that I can accomplish what his 9 years of school didn't?
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Post by smasonnc on Feb 8, 2024 15:13:53 GMT
And an educated woman with a Masters degree told me some women use abortion in place of birth control. Abortions are expensive and painful, I literally cannot wrap my head around this argument. One "educated woman with a masters degree" is not data. There are women who use abortion as birth control, but where are the numbers? If a small subset of women are idiots does it necessarily follow that NO woman should have the right to bodily autonomy?
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Post by MissBianca on Feb 8, 2024 16:20:23 GMT
Pro-birthers are some of my least favorite people. I would like to know if fewer young women are moving to states with draconian abortion restrictions. My daughter waved off on her top college choice because of their abortion laws in that state.
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Post by Merge on Feb 8, 2024 21:07:05 GMT
I had a man on Twitter tell me it was easy to avoid pregnancy - women just need to "keep their legs closed during the two days per month they can get pregnant." This is the kind of catchphrase that comes in through the ears and goes out through the keyboard, completely bypassing the brain. I have no more interest in trying to educate a dumb@$$ like that on social media than I have in hitting myself on the head with a hammer. Who am I to think that I can accomplish what his 9 years of school didn't? I guess I hope to wake up someone who didn't have the benefit of any sex or reproductive education in school - as happens in many red states these days.
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Post by Merge on Feb 8, 2024 21:10:29 GMT
Abortions are expensive and painful, I literally cannot wrap my head around this argument. One "educated woman with a masters degree" is not data. There are women who use abortion as birth control, but where are the numbers? If a small subset of women are idiots does it necessarily follow that NO woman should have the right to bodily autonomy? The forced birth movement insists that any woman who wasn't raped or whose life wasn't imminently threatened by the pregnancy was "using the abortion as birth control" because they don't want to be "inconvenienced" by the pregnancy. So it's hard to get real numbers. It would probably be accurate to say that many women choose to have an abortion when their primary method of birth control fails. But that's not at all the same thing as what is implied - that millions of women are just too lazy and careless to use birth control and have abortions instead.
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Post by smasonnc on Feb 9, 2024 1:10:23 GMT
The forced birth movement insists that any woman who wasn't raped or whose life wasn't imminently threatened by the pregnancy was "using the abortion as birth control" because they don't want to be "inconvenienced" by the pregnancy. So it's hard to get real numbers. My point was people who use this argument have no hard data to support a complete ban. It's just a red herring.
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Post by melanell on Feb 9, 2024 16:49:50 GMT
Pro-birthers are some of my least favorite people. I would like to know if fewer young women are moving to states with draconian abortion restrictions. My daughter waved off on her top college choice because of their abortion laws in that state. Did she let the college know that, by chance? Because in my mind, the more businesses & institutions who see an increase in this kind of decision being made the better.
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Post by MissBianca on Feb 10, 2024 3:22:50 GMT
My daughter waved off on her top college choice because of their abortion laws in that state. Did she let the college know that, by chance? Because in my mind, the more businesses & institutions who see an increase in this kind of decision being made the better. She did. She actually called the college and the senators and told them she opted for a more woman friendly state. The college she ended up choosing is a Roman Catholic college but when she interviewed with them she asked their stance on women’s rights and the lgbtq community and balancing that with the schools beliefs. The director of admissions said the school was making great strides in changing their viewpoint because they can’t just exist in the same space, they need to live and be a part of the world today and in order to do that, they have to make changes which started with a change in leadership. Between that and the focus on diversity and mental health services etc, this school went from being number 5 on the list to number 1.
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Post by pilcas on Feb 10, 2024 3:56:39 GMT
Abortions are expensive and painful, I literally cannot wrap my head around this argument. One "educated woman with a masters degree" is not data. There are women who use abortion as birth control, but where are the numbers? If a small subset of women are idiots does it necessarily follow that NO woman should have the right to bodily autonomy? My comment was not meant to be data. It is what this particular colleague of mine said to me. I mentioned her Masters to point out that she has a certain level of education and I did not expect that particular comment from her.
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Post by dawnnikol on Feb 11, 2024 12:14:14 GMT
I mean, is it about "protecting the innocent, unborn babies" or...
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Post by casii on Feb 11, 2024 16:24:54 GMT
I mean, is it about "protecting the innocent, unborn babies" or... The way they're ready to throw women and medical providers in jail, chase them out of state and demonize them when they seek needed abortion care, meanwhile this jackhole, notably a white male, gets a slap on the wrist. As a reminder to women voters, it's about controlling us, punishing us, keeping their boot on our neck. If it were about the babies, universal healthcare would be a reality, universal preschool, free breakfast and lunches in schools, a standard wage, parental leave, etc. In other words, social safety nets.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 12, 2024 23:40:58 GMT
I don't even know what to say about the stupidity of this comment
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 12, 2024 23:53:47 GMT
Really scary just how extreme some of these Republicans are www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/missouri-senate-votes-against-allowing-abortion-in-cases-of-rape-and-incestMissouri Senate votes against allowing abortion in cases of rape and incest
GOP Sen. Rick Brattin said abortion is as much of an atrocity as the institution of slavery and argued that giving birth could help women recover from rape or incest.
“If you want to go after the rapist, let’s give him the death penalty. Absolutely, let’s do it,” Brattin said. “But not the innocent person caught in-between that, by God’s grace, may even be the greatest healing agent you need in which to recover from such an atrocity.”
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Post by dawnnikol on Feb 15, 2024 12:46:48 GMT
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Post by sueg on Feb 15, 2024 13:02:01 GMT
I don't even know what to say about the stupidity of this comment Of course, one COULD ask why one year olds are being raped, and what he’s doing to stop that
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Post by sueg on Feb 15, 2024 13:03:01 GMT
And when the woman dies, in many cases so does the Fetus. So they are not saving the baby anyway
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Post by dawnnikol on Feb 15, 2024 13:28:24 GMT
And when the woman dies, in many cases so does the Fetus. So they are not saving the baby anyway I think we all knew they didn't care about either one in the first place..
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