Biden’s fitness for a second term

You are a monster, Gia. Your cult has made you a monster. I will never forgive you and your people for what you are doing to this country, and I hope that history deals with you the way most of us have dealt with Nazis and fascists of all stripes. All of us, that is, except for the party you worship. They love the Nazis and fascists! They're very fine people and very special, and Trump loves them very much, especially when they're committing violence on his behalf.

All that stuff you mentioned about cities up there is a dog whistle for "urban" people that we often hear from white nationalist groups. I live in one of the large cities you mention - a big, blue sanctuary city not far from the border. Those people you're talking about are my neighbors. Your party wants to further defund and then destroy our public schools, the ones most of us depend on to help lift people out of poverty. Your policies cause greater poverty and you’re “surprised” when people turn to crime. The bullshit your people make up about what is going on in our cities is based on nothing but fantasies, just like the bullshit you make up about what's going on at the border. You all sit in your non-border states and your suburbs/rural areas and make city people out to be monsters, when you are in fact the monsters.

It's just stupid that you think that Trump's own people have been "manipulated" against him when they're speaking from their own personal experience working with him. Seriously, how dumb do you have to be to think that? Absolute willful stupidity. You say you don't like Trump, either, but you also don't believe any negative thing anyone says about him. Hypocrite.

Eat shit, Gia. You're a huge failure as a human being. It should physically hurt to be as stupid and cruel as you are. You and Marge and Bobo - quite a trio of the stupidest people ever to open their mouths. 

You can't refute anything I said above. All you can do is try to turn it around with your ignorance and shout, I know you are, but what am I? like an eight year old on the playground. So incredibly stupid.

Policy disagreement? That’s some new bull. She’s on another thread defending Trump’s massive fraud! I mean, who in their right mind thinks fraud is defensible? And the cherry on this ludicrous sundae is claiming that we are the ones who are "dishonest" right after that!

The banks and real estate industry don't get a say in whether or not is was fraud. That's not how it works, it's up to the courts to decide.


apnews.com/article/donald-trump-letitia-james-fraud-lawsuit-1569245a9284427117b8d3ba5da74249

“In defendants’ world: rent regulated apartments are worth the same as unregulated apartments; restricted land is worth the same as unrestricted land; restrictions can evaporate into thin air; a disclaimer by one party casting responsibility on another party exonerates the other party’s lies,” Engoron wrote in his 35-page ruling. “That is a fantasy world, not the real world.”

Trump’s lawyers, in their own summary judgment bid, had asked the judge to throw out the case, arguing that there wasn’t any evidence the public was harmed by Trump’s actions. They also argued that many of the allegations in the lawsuit were barred by the statute of limitations.

Engoron, noting that he had rejected those arguments earlier in the case, equated them to the plot of the film “Groundhog Day.” He fined five defense lawyers $7,500 each as punishment for “engaging in repetitive, frivolous” arguments, but denied James’ request to sanction Trump and other defendants.

Engoron found that Trump consistently overvalued Mar-a-Lago, inflating its value on one financial statement by as much as 2,300%. The judge also rebuked Trump for lying about the size of his Manhattan apartment. Trump claimed his three-story Trump Tower penthouse was nearly three times its actual size, valuing it at $327 million.

“A discrepancy of this order of magnitude, by a real estate developer sizing up his own living space of decades, can only be considered fraud,” Engoron wrote.

Of course it does. A court of law says it was fraud. That makes it, ya know, FRAUD. Sorry the world doesn’t work the way you want to claim it does.

And I don’t think executives at Deutshe Bank actually testified that it wasn’t fraud.

The bank involved was all up in Trump’s business and making money off his activities. They may or may not be reliable informants. I have no personal knowledge of what they may or may not have claimed, but I’ll take your word for it.

Please provide evidence that “the real estate industry,” not some random dude who works in the real estate industry and may or may not be making money in some way off Trump’s activities, claims Trump didn’t commit fraud.

And then you will still have the issue that a court of law decided Trump committed fraud. That is how we establish fact in this country. Not by finding someone who says what you want to hear, and then clinging to it for dear life no matter what the actual facts say.