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Post by aj2hall on Feb 21, 2024 3:39:58 GMT
Not a single conversation YOU are having here is being made in "good faith", if all you can post on a thread about BIDEN’S COGNITIVE DECLINE is rapid fire -but, but, but Republicans/Trump. You started this entire thread in bad faith with a biased, flawed poll. Some of my posts are important context that you conveniently left out of your posts. Some of my posts are about Biden or the Biden campaign. Sure, President Biden is old and his approval ratings are low but those arguments are weakened Trump who is also old with low approval ratings. Age and approval ratings are just about the only Republican line of attack on Biden. Immigration is a problem but the Republicans just sunk that line of attack when they refused to pass the bipartisan border deal because Trump told them to vote no. And the Hunter Biden scandal is about to blow up in Jordan and Comer's faces. Also, most Americans don't really care about Hunter and don't think Joe Biden had any connection to Hunter's business. And some posts are about Trump but they are relevant because you can't talk about one candidate without talking about the other. Inconveniently for you, Trump is becoming more unhinged every day and showing signs of stress and a possible mental decline. Worse than Biden, Trump is making mistakes and mis-steps, repeating falsehoods, taking rambling and bizarre tangents with incoherent sounds and slurred words almost daily. Unfortunately for you, your chosen candidate is a greedy narcissist, a fraud who only cares about himself and lining his own pockets and trying to avoid jail time. Trump first, Putin second and America last. He incited an insurrection, tried to overturn the results of an election, betrayed his oath to the Constitution, was indicted on felony charges and was found guilty of sexual assault. So it's easy to find articles and tweets showing his many faults and how unfit he is for office. My posts just don't fit your narrative that Biden is a clumsy, bumbling idiot.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 21, 2024 4:07:21 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 21, 2024 4:07:33 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 21, 2024 4:17:31 GMT
Not a single conversation YOU are having here is being made in "good faith", if all you can post on a thread about BIDEN’S COGNITIVE DECLINE is rapid fire -but, but, but Republicans/Trump. You started this entire thread in bad faith with a biased, flawed poll. No, I didn't. After being bombarded with a hostile group who use smear tactics to silence opposing opinion and facts on another thread, you just couldn't fathom that I only wanted to hear from people that had been silenced. You have seen me say that to you when you you posted a literal 9 second video -clipped in the middle of a single sentence, in order to claim a point that isn't what you claim when you hear the full statement. And now you think that you can apply that to a highlight of a full paragraph that has nothing in the rest of the statement that negates it. No one has a problem with talking about Biden on a Biden thread. That ship has sailed for you when you declare things as completely normalwhen Biden does them and the same exact things are "telling" when Trump does them. Horseshit. If you want to talk about your opinion that Biden doesn't have declining mental faculties, go right ahead. But the rapid fire of but, but, but Republicans/Trump is meant to bombard and bury opposing opinions and shows you can't/won't allow people to diverge from YOUR narrative.
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 21, 2024 4:27:47 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 21, 2024 4:28:31 GMT
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 21, 2024 4:34:12 GMT
Because of the droughts that have hit CA over the decades we’ve had low flow showers, dishwashers and toilets for years. They all work just fine.
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Post by Merge on Feb 21, 2024 11:48:29 GMT
The idea that Trumpers are being “silenced” when we hear from him and them all day, every day, in the media and on social media, is simply ludicrous.
No one is silencing you, Gia. You’re not a victim. You’re not giving some voice to the voiceless here. You’re just a person who continually comes to this board to try to stick it to the libs because … I don’t know, you get your jollies that way?
As you’ve pointed out, even the NYT has jumped on the “Biden is too old” bandwagon. You’re not raising some hidden point that no one is talking about. You’re not starting some important “conversation.”
There are any number of forums where you can post where people only support Trump and criticize Biden. The comments sections of any major newspaper, big sections of Twitter, Trump Social, Reddit, 4chan … why you feel the need to hammer the peas with your nonsense is beyond me.
You have the right to be here, of course. What you don’t have is the right to post in a vacuum or to limit who can post on threads you start. Complaining that there are too many liberal opinions on your posts when the vast majority of the peas who like to discuss politics are liberal is not rational. You seem to expect some kind of affirmative action here for Trump friendly views, but no one is obligated to provide that for you. We’re also not obligated to make way for views that many of us feel pose an existential threat to ourselves and our loved ones.
We’re all aware that there are people like you who disagree with us. Many of us live in red states and we tolerate hearing their opinions just fine every day. It seems you are the one who just can’t tolerate hearing our opinions. We outnumber you here and you just can’t stand that. I don’t know what to tell you except that there are any number of forums where you can be in the majority.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 21, 2024 20:33:31 GMT
Recent NBC poll 76% of voters say they have (I do believe it's up to 86% now in another) major (62%) or moderate (14%) concerns about Biden lacking the necessary mental and physical health to be president for a second term. Perhaps most worrisomely for the president, 81% of independents and 54% of Democrats say they have major or moderate concerns about Biden’s fitness for a second term. New Poll… linkJill Lawrence… ”Biden 49, Trump 45 in new @quinnipiacpoll. Top issue, democracy. 56% support Ukraine aid, and there's massive support for NATO.” And unlike you I actually include the poll so folks can actually look at it. The headline… ”2024 Election: Biden Holds On To Slight Lead Over Trump, Quinnipiac University National Poll Finds; Trump Gets Higher Marks On Age, Mental & Physical Fitness; Biden Does Better On Ethics, Empathy & Temperament The bolded part. Seriously???
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Post by Lurkingpea on Feb 21, 2024 21:23:29 GMT
The idea that Trumpers are being “silenced” when we hear from him and them all day, every day, in the media and on social media, is simply ludicrous. No one is silencing you, Gia. You’re not a victim. You’re not giving some voice to the voiceless here. You’re just a person who continually comes to this board to try to stick it to the libs because … I don’t know, you get your jollies that way? As you’ve pointed out, even the NYT has jumped on the “Biden is too old” bandwagon. You’re not raising some hidden point that no one is talking about. You’re not starting some important “conversation.” There are any number of forums where you can post where people only support Trump and criticize Biden. The comments sections of any major newspaper, big sections of Twitter, Trump Social, Reddit, 4chan … why you feel the need to hammer the peas with your nonsense is beyond me. You have the right to be here, of course. What you don’t have is the right to post in a vacuum or to limit who can post on threads you start. Complaining that there are too many liberal opinions on your posts when the vast majority of the peas who like to discuss politics are liberal is not rational. You seem to expect some kind of affirmative action here for Trump friendly views, but no one is obligated to provide that for you. We’re also not obligated to make way for views that many of us feel pose an existential threat to ourselves and our loved ones. We’re all aware that there are people like you who disagree with us. Many of us live in red states and we tolerate hearing their opinions just fine every day. It seems you are the one who just can’t tolerate hearing our opinions. We outnumber you here and you just can’t stand that. I don’t know what to tell you except that there are any number of forums where you can be in the majority. She is back in her cycle it appears. She is getting bored or something because she is now posting her non political posts asking a question. BTW I hate that ignoring doesn't work on the phone. She does this every single time she gets everyone riled up with a multipager, her last few posts are of the "I'm rubber you're glue" variety and she abruptly stops posting to them and then starts an inane non political thread. Hopefully this means she will just go away for awhile.
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Post by Merge on Feb 21, 2024 21:29:12 GMT
The idea that Trumpers are being “silenced” when we hear from him and them all day, every day, in the media and on social media, is simply ludicrous. No one is silencing you, Gia. You’re not a victim. You’re not giving some voice to the voiceless here. You’re just a person who continually comes to this board to try to stick it to the libs because … I don’t know, you get your jollies that way? As you’ve pointed out, even the NYT has jumped on the “Biden is too old” bandwagon. You’re not raising some hidden point that no one is talking about. You’re not starting some important “conversation.” There are any number of forums where you can post where people only support Trump and criticize Biden. The comments sections of any major newspaper, big sections of Twitter, Trump Social, Reddit, 4chan … why you feel the need to hammer the peas with your nonsense is beyond me. You have the right to be here, of course. What you don’t have is the right to post in a vacuum or to limit who can post on threads you start. Complaining that there are too many liberal opinions on your posts when the vast majority of the peas who like to discuss politics are liberal is not rational. You seem to expect some kind of affirmative action here for Trump friendly views, but no one is obligated to provide that for you. We’re also not obligated to make way for views that many of us feel pose an existential threat to ourselves and our loved ones. We’re all aware that there are people like you who disagree with us. Many of us live in red states and we tolerate hearing their opinions just fine every day. It seems you are the one who just can’t tolerate hearing our opinions. We outnumber you here and you just can’t stand that. I don’t know what to tell you except that there are any number of forums where you can be in the majority. She is back in her cycle it appears. She is getting bored or something because she is now posting her non political posts asking a question. BTW I hate that ignoring doesn't work on the phone. She does this every single time she gets everyone riled up with a multipager, her last few posts are of the "I'm rubber you're glue" variety and she abruptly stops posting to them and then starts an inane non political thread. Hopefully this means she will just go away for awhile. The combination of the Biden/Burisma witness falling through and one of our resident pea attorneys knocking down her 'arguments' one by one on the Trump Court Cases thread has to be hard to handle.
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Post by jayfab on Feb 21, 2024 21:50:14 GMT
The idea that Trumpers are being “silenced” when we hear from him and them all day, every day, in the media and on social media, is simply ludicrous. No one is silencing you, Gia. You’re not a victim. You’re not giving some voice to the voiceless here. You’re just a person who continually comes to this board to try to stick it to the libs because … I don’t know, you get your jollies that way? As you’ve pointed out, even the NYT has jumped on the “Biden is too old” bandwagon. You’re not raising some hidden point that no one is talking about. You’re not starting some important “conversation.” There are any number of forums where you can post where people only support Trump and criticize Biden. The comments sections of any major newspaper, big sections of Twitter, Trump Social, Reddit, 4chan … why you feel the need to hammer the peas with your nonsense is beyond me. You have the right to be here, of course. What you don’t have is the right to post in a vacuum or to limit who can post on threads you start. Complaining that there are too many liberal opinions on your posts when the vast majority of the peas who like to discuss politics are liberal is not rational. You seem to expect some kind of affirmative action here for Trump friendly views, but no one is obligated to provide that for you. We’re also not obligated to make way for views that many of us feel pose an existential threat to ourselves and our loved ones. We’re all aware that there are people like you who disagree with us. Many of us live in red states and we tolerate hearing their opinions just fine every day. It seems you are the one who just can’t tolerate hearing our opinions. We outnumber you here and you just can’t stand that. I don’t know what to tell you except that there are any number of forums where you can be in the majority. Winner winner chicken dinner!!!
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 22, 2024 1:11:38 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 22, 2024 1:31:14 GMT
More on the poll that onelastime posted. I don't have a lot of faith in polls in terms of elections, but they are interesting to look at in terms of issues. Trump's ethics, empathy, and temperament scores are abysmal. Support for NATO and Ukraine is high, which is also bad news for Trump. The part that I have trouble understanding is how people think Trump cares about ordinary Americans. His rallies are all about himself these days. www.meidastouch.com/news/biden-soars-ahead-in-quinnipiac-poll-as-trump-stumblespoll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3890Voters were asked whether Biden and Trump are ethical, care about average Americans, and have the kind of personality and temperament it takes to serve effectively as president.
Ethical: Biden: 49 percent say yes, 47 percent say no; Trump: 29 percent say yes, 68 percent say no.
Cares about average Americans: Biden: 51 percent say yes, 47 percent say no; Trump: 42 percent say yes, 57 percent say no.
Kind of personality and temperament it takes to serve effectively as president: Biden: 49 percent say yes, 50 percent say no; Trump: 37 percent say yes, 61 percent say no.
23. Would you say that Joe Biden is ethical, or not? 24. Would you say that Donald Trump is ethical, or not? 25. Would you say that Joe Biden cares about average Americans, or not? 26. Would you say that Donald Trump cares about average Americans, or not? 27. Do you think Joe Biden has the kind of personality and temperament it takes to serve effectively as president, or not? 28. Do you think Donald Trump has the kind of personality and temperament it takes to serve effectively as president, or not?
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 22, 2024 1:38:59 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 22, 2024 1:41:02 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 22, 2024 1:42:22 GMT
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 22, 2024 2:10:30 GMT
If Biden is unable to be prosecuted for a "serious felony", you have to say why.
So, he either has "diminished mental faculties" and can't be held accountable, or he's fully cognitive and he's going to court. 🤔
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Post by lucyg on Feb 22, 2024 5:05:28 GMT
Or he didn’t actually commit a serious felony, duhh.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 22, 2024 5:21:15 GMT
If Biden is unable to be prosecuted for a "serious felony", you have to say why. So, he either has "diminished mental faculties" and can't be held accountable, or he's fully cognitive and he's going to court. 🤔 Held accountable for what exactly?
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 22, 2024 6:43:09 GMT
Or he didn’t actually commit a serious felony, duhh. He did.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 22, 2024 6:44:47 GMT
If Biden is unable to be prosecuted for a "serious felony", you have to say why. So, he either has "diminished mental faculties" and can't be held accountable, or he's fully cognitive and he's going to court. 🤔 Held accountable for what exactly? He had classified documents from when he was a senator that he was not allowed to have. Also from when he was VP that he was not allowed to have. He had them, KNEW he had them in 2017, AND showed them to at least one person.
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Post by jayfab on Feb 22, 2024 17:47:56 GMT
If Biden is unable to be prosecuted for a "serious felony", you have to say why. So, he either has "diminished mental faculties" and can't be held accountable, or he's fully cognitive and he's going to court. 🤔 What do you mean "held accountable"? President Biden can't be held accountable since he President, remember per Donny, a President has absolute immunity, complete 100 percent immunity for whatever he does, in or out of office. President Biden could shoot someone on Pennsylvania Ave and be totally fine! President Biden could pay off a porn star with campaign/pac funds and not be held accountable. President Biden could beg/bribe a gov to change votes, all aokay. He could REFUSE to return state secrets, hide and lie about them and no problemo. And of course there are more examples. See how that works. Instead his decisions are putting our country on the right path. President Biden is either super addled or he's a some kind of genius and outsmarting trump cult with what he's been doing. I'm a bit dumbfounded.
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Post by Merge on Feb 22, 2024 18:20:01 GMT
Held accountable for what exactly? He had classified documents from when he was a senator that he was not allowed to have. Also from when he was VP that he was not allowed to have. He had them, KNEW he had them in 2017, AND showed them to at least one person. And yet they did a whole big investigation and found nothing to charge him for.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 22, 2024 18:22:51 GMT
Held accountable for what exactly? He had classified documents from when he was a senator that he was not allowed to have. Also from when he was VP that he was allowed to have. He had them, KNEW he had them in 2017, AND showed them to at least one person. So did Mike Pence. Should he be charged for something? President Biden cooperated with the investigators. Let them search all his residences. dumpster don did not. That is why he is being charged. If he had given the documents back when it was first discovered he had them this would not be an issue for him today.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 22, 2024 19:55:37 GMT
If Biden is unable to be prosecuted for a "serious felony", you have to say why. So, he either has "diminished mental faculties" and can't be held accountable, or he's fully cognitive and he's going to court. 🤔 What do you mean "held accountable"? President Biden can't be held accountable since he President, remember per Donny, a President has absolute immunity, complete 100 percent immunity for whatever he does, in or out of office. President Biden could shoot someone on Pennsylvania Ave and be totally fine! President Biden could pay off a porn star with campaign/pac funds and not be held accountable. President Biden could beg/bribe a gov to change votes, all aokay. He could REFUSE to return state secrets, hide and lie about them and no problemo. And of course there are more examples. See how that works. No, that's NOT how that works. As a senator he was NOT ALLOWED to take the documents. As VP he was NOT ALLOWED to take the documents. Biden DID hide and lie about them. Biden KNEW in 2017 that he had them and didn't say a word to the people that needed to know. The ONLY reason he cooperated now, was because it became public knowledge. Because for 6 years before that, when he thought no one was watching, he proved that he was just going to continue to hold onto them. Character is what you do when no one is watching.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 22, 2024 19:59:14 GMT
He had classified documents from when he was a senator that he was not allowed to have. Also from when he was VP that he was not allowed to have. He had them, KNEW he had them in 2017, AND showed them to at least one person. And yet they did a whole big investigation and found nothing to charge him for. That is absolutely not true. Report said: "Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and DISCLOSED classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen." Biden’s practices “present serious risks to national security”.
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Post by morecowbell on Feb 22, 2024 20:22:16 GMT
He had classified documents from when he was a senator that he was not allowed to have. Also from when he was VP that he was allowed to have. He had them, KNEW he had them in 2017, AND showed them to at least one person. So did Mike Pence. Should he be charged for something? I can not find evidence of that. Do you have a link to that?
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Post by Merge on Feb 22, 2024 20:27:37 GMT
And yet they did a whole big investigation and found nothing to charge him for. That is absolutely not true. Report said: "Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and DISCLOSED classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen." Biden’s practices “present serious risks to national security”. Then why didn’t the investigator recommend charges? You seem not to understand the difference between bad practice and a crime.
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Post by onelasttime on Feb 22, 2024 20:39:14 GMT
What do you mean "held accountable"? President Biden can't be held accountable since he President, remember per Donny, a President has absolute immunity, complete 100 percent immunity for whatever he does, in or out of office. President Biden could shoot someone on Pennsylvania Ave and be totally fine! President Biden could pay off a porn star with campaign/pac funds and not be held accountable. President Biden could beg/bribe a gov to change votes, all aokay. He could REFUSE to return state secrets, hide and lie about them and no problemo. And of course there are more examples. See how that works. No, that's NOT how that works. As a senator he was NOT ALLOWED to take the documents. As VP he was NOT ALLOWED to take the documents. Biden DID hide and lie about them. Biden KNEW in 2017 that he had them and didn't say a word to the people that needed to know. The ONLY reason he cooperated now, was because it became public knowledge. Because for 6 years before that, when he thought no one was watching, he proved that he was just going to continue to hold onto them. Character is what you do when no one is watching. Piece of advice. Being the devout trump supporter that you are you should never ever use the word “character” in a conversation about another person. By doing so you leave yourself wide open to hearing about dumpster don’s lack of character, which would specifically be his lack of compassion, integrity, & honesty. That is just the tip of the iceberg of the characteristics he lacks
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