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It’s been may understanding that most prosecutors will bring the most serious charges on which they feel they have a good chance of getting a conviction. So splitting hairs about “no one was charged with insurrection” is pointless. Enrique Tarrio and others were charged with and convicted of seditious conspiracy, which is a related charge and likely easier to prove.

Here’s some information I found for anyone who is interested.

www.thefederalcriminalattorneys.com/rebellion-or-insurrection#:~:text=18%20U.S.%20Code%20%C2%A7%202383%20%2D%20Rebellion%20or%20Insurrection,serious%20jail%20time%20and%20fines.

Splitting hairs about what someone thinks constitutes an “armed insurrection” is also pointless. It’s an undeniable fact that a bunch of Trump supporters showed up and, with weapons they either brought or repurposed, set about to commit violence in order to gain entry to the capitol building. We all saw it happen on live TV. They also stated their intention to commit similar violence against members of congress and the vice president. And they did so because they believed Trump when he repeatedly lied about the election being stolen. Trying to in any way minimize or defend any of that is insane.

Too bad you don't have the same compassion and sympathy primarily for all the young Black unarmed males who are killed for just being out in public while Black!!!

Ashley Babbitt was no innocent bystander by any stretch of the imagination.

Even some Fox hosts and analysts are calling out Republicans for not acting on the border when they had an opportunity.



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He's confused about when he was president. Again.



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Well glad to know that we agree and that I was not lying.  However, even though you did not “say otherwise”  I have to question what the intent of the UNARMED protester comment then was…she may have been unarmed and may have been protesting, but that was not why she ended up dying.  She ended up dying because she was trying to BREAK into a LOCK and BARRICADED room.  So maybe that you are not LYING you should have said that the only blood spilled was from someone trying to break and enter into a locked room.  

Thank you for your efforts.  While we're being accurate, let's not forget the 2 Trump supporters that died that day of heart attacks.  Or the 5 police officers whose deaths are considered line of duty.  One died of a stroke and 4 died by suicide.  By almost all accounts, Jan 6 was a deadly insurrection.  Let's not diminish the lives lost that day by downplaying the seriousness and violence.  

In addition, her statement that the only blood spilled was Ashley Babbitt is also inaccurate because 140 Capitol police officers were injured that day.  Some serious injuries like cracked ribs, crushed vertebrae and broken bones.  The insurrection was, in fact, bloody as hell.

And we've also pointed out the number of guns and other weapons that the insurrectionists carried.  As well as the weapons charges.  

The answer to your question above was addressed in the post.  Don’t you read the entire post before you respond?

Plenty of law enforcement blood was spilled that day, but I guess we only care about that when it’s poor people/minorities/immigrants/drag queens causing it.

ETA I cannot believe I have to add this, but: one officer died from injuries sustained during the attack.

And plenty of law enforcement officers are still suffering physical and emotional damage from that day. Some had to retire from their injuries. Several took their own lives.

But go ahead and assure us that the only blood spilled was a violent protestor’s.

Actually, no.  Bolding the words and making them bigger does not make them true.  I'm repeating some of this because you're repeating the same falsehoods.

2 Trump supporters died on Jan 6 of heart attacks.  In addition, 5 police officers later died. Their deaths are considered line of duty. One died of a stroke and 4 died by suicide. By almost all accounts, Jan 6 was a deadly insurrection. Let's not diminish the lives lost by downplaying the seriousness and violence.

The only blood spilled was from Ashley Babbitt is also inaccurate from the standpoint that140 Capitol police officers were injured that day. Some serious injuries like cracked ribs, crushed vertebrae and broken bones. The insurrection was, in fact, bloody as hell.

And we've also pointed out the number of guns and other weapons that the insurrectionists carried. As well as the appropriately 140 individuals with weapons charges. So, yes, it was an armed insurrection.

Your requirements that the majority of the people participating have to be carrying guns and there have to be charges of an insurrection are arbitrary.

The legal definition and the dictionary definition of armed does not require guns, let alone a majority of people involved to carry them.  The dictionary states "furnished with weapons."  Therefore, based on well established facts, January 6 was armed.

The dictionary definition of insurrection 

www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insurrection

an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government


The purpose of the Trump supporters that day was to disrupt the counting of the electoral votes. They also wanted to hang Mike Pence for certifying the vote. Trump and his supporters referred to the event as "Stop the Steal".  So, yes it was a revolt against the government.  An armed revolt, an armed insurrection.  Nothing you or Republicans say changes the facts of what actually happened. Many of us saw it on TV live as it was happening that day or later.  There is plenty of video, we all witnessed the violence.   Your attempts at gaslighting do not change anything.

May I suggest that you watch this documentary or listen to some of the testimony to the Jan 6 committee? Or, read their report? It seems like your recollection or memory might not be accurate.  Or perhaps tainted by conservative media.

www.hbo.com/movies/four-hours-at-the-capitol

january6th-benniethompson.house.gov