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Post by morecowbell on Apr 4, 2024 5:08:03 GMT
None of that changes what I stated. "I asked the question because I wanted to hear from people who think he has significant mental decline. I did not want to hear from people who do NOT think so, because WE HAD ALREADY HEARD FROM THEM." I'm still sorry that is so hard for you to comprehend. But, of course you do. So? Post them. As long as you don’t change your OP again and deny what you said before, there’s no need. I changed it by adding the word IF. I said I was changing it and why. I was completely open and upfront about changing it. I also never denied anything, and yet you still felt the need to mention that you have screenshots. I'm not hiding anything, so... I fail to see why you felt the need for such a meaningless dig.
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Post by onelasttime on Apr 4, 2024 5:13:06 GMT
Well actually it hasn’t. You neglected to specifically address the contents of the post. You know the part about how trump lied about talking to members of the murdered girl’s family. Either you think the family member is lying and trump did talk to members of the family or he did lie and you’re ok with it or you think what he did was disgusting. So what do you think? Yes, it has. Merge posted it and my response to it (that you responded to by posting what merge had already posted) my response was showing the clip of biden once again making a tragedy about himself by lying that he used to ride the train over the collapsed bridge. A bridge that doesn't, and never did have, train tracks. Since there was outrage over Trump lying, it only made sense that there would obviously also be outrage over biden lying. That was my thought about it. You just refuse to criticize trump. Any rational decent individual would find trump lying that he talked to family members of a murdered woman outrageous and say so. But not you. Your childish response was “he lies to”. How disgusting.
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Post by morecowbell on Apr 4, 2024 5:26:39 GMT
Yes, it has. Merge posted it and my response to it (that you responded to by posting what merge had already posted) my response was showing the clip of biden once again making a tragedy about himself by lying that he used to ride the train over the collapsed bridge. A bridge that doesn't, and never did have, train tracks. Since there was outrage over Trump lying, it only made sense that there would obviously also be outrage over biden lying. That was my thought about it. You just refuse to criticize trump. Any rational decent individual would find trump lying that he talked to family members of a murdered woman outrageous and say so. But not you. Your childish response was “he lies to”. How disgusting. By your own standard, you just refuse to criticize biden. Any rational decent individual would find that biden making every tragedy about himself and lying that he rode a train over a bridge that trains do. Not. Go. Over, outrageous and say so. But not you. You often let childish responses from your own side like “he lies too" stand and then complain when it comes back at you in return. How disgusting.
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 4, 2024 5:30:35 GMT
Plenty of law enforcement blood was spilled that day, but I guess we only care about that when it’s poor people/minorities/immigrants/drag queens causing it. ETA I cannot believe I have to add this, but: one officer died from injuries sustained during the attack. And plenty of law enforcement officers are still suffering physical and emotional damage from that day. Some had to retire from their injuries. Several took their own lives. But go ahead and assure us that the only blood spilled was a violent protestor’s. My point was: as opposed to shootouts happening all over by mass amounts of armed people IF it was an actual armed insurrection, it would have been bloody as hell, lots of people would have died and people would have been CHARGED with insurrection. Again, people did die and there were a significant number of injuries. There were more than 1,000 assaults on the police. 140 Capitol and Metropolitan police officers were injured, some seriously with broken bones, crushed vertebrae and cracked ribs. 5 months after the attack, 17 officers remained out of work due to injuries sustained during the insurrection. It was bloody as hell. At least 123 people were charged with weapons charges. People were convicted of seditious conspiracy. Enrique Carrion, the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers and others came perilously close to their goal of interrupting official proceedings. We almost had a constitutional crisis with uncertainty about the next president or how it would be decided. It was an armed insurrection. Those that participated are not patriots, hostages or political prisoners. Those convicted should not be pardoned for their crimes, especially not by the very person that lied about the election, invited them there and encouraged them.
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Post by morecowbell on Apr 4, 2024 5:36:22 GMT
My point was: as opposed to shootouts happening all over by mass amounts of armed people IF it was an actual armed insurrection, it would have been bloody as hell, lots of people would have died and people would have been CHARGED with insurrection. Again, people did die and there were a significant number of injuries. There were more than 1,000 assaults on the police. 140 Capitol and Metropolitan police officers were injured, some seriously with broken bones, crushed vertebrae and cracked ribs. 5 months after the attack, 17 officers remained out of work due to injuries sustained during the insurrection. It was bloody as hell. At least 123 people were charged with weapons charges. People were convicted of seditious conspiracy. Enrique Carrion, the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers and others came perilously close to their goal of interrupting official proceedings. We almost had a constitutional crisis with uncertainty about the next president or how it would be decided. It was an armed insurrection. Those that participated are not patriots, hostages or political prisoners. Those convicted should not be pardoned for their crimes, especially not by the very person that lied about the election, invited them there and encouraged them. I understand. It was terrible and should not have happened. And yet no one was charged with insurrection.
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 4, 2024 5:47:16 GMT
There has been plenty of criticism of Biden. But, you dismiss it because the criticism does not meet your specific standards. We've criticized him for the war in Gaza, the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, the failure to pass voting rights. We've criticized him for mistakes that he made or factual inaccuracies like the bridge in Baltimore. We've criticized him for being too old and not stepping aside.
In comparison, what have you criticized Trump for? We're not even picky. We don't have a specific list that you need to criticize him for. And there's a long list to choose from.
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 4, 2024 6:00:22 GMT
Again, people did die and there were a significant number of injuries. There were more than 1,000 assaults on the police. 140 Capitol and Metropolitan police officers were injured, some seriously with broken bones, crushed vertebrae and cracked ribs. 5 months after the attack, 17 officers remained out of work due to injuries sustained during the insurrection. It was bloody as hell. At least 123 people were charged with weapons charges. People were convicted of seditious conspiracy. Enrique Carrion, the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers and others came perilously close to their goal of interrupting official proceedings. We almost had a constitutional crisis with uncertainty about the next president or how it would be decided. It was an armed insurrection. Those that participated are not patriots, hostages or political prisoners. Those convicted should not be pardoned for their crimes, especially not by the very person that lied about the election, invited them there and encouraged them. I understand. It was terrible and should not have happened. And yet no one was charged with insurrection. Again, charges of insurrection are your arbitrary requirement, but they are not necessary in order for it to be considered an insurrection. The intent of those present was to disrupt the government, to stop the certification of the electoral vote, to "stop the steal". There were seditious conspiracy convictions. By almost all accounts, it was an armed insurrection. www.brookings.edu/events/january-6-insurrection-one-year-later/Nearly one year ago, a violent mob broke into the United States Capitol in an effort to halt the certification of the electoral vote and overturn the 2020 election in favor of Donald Trump. The insurrection was, thankfully, unsuccessful.
www.npr.org/2024/01/04/1198909529/1a-draft-01-04-2024It's been three years since a group of insurrectionists, emboldened by former President Donald Trump, attacked the U.S. Capitol in an attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
www.nytimes.com/2022/12/19/us/politics/jan-6-trump-criminal-justice-dept.htmlJan. 6 Panel Accuses Trump of Insurrection and Refers Him to Justice Dept.
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/jan-6-insurrection-capitol/President Donald Trump’s assault on American democracy began in the spring of 2020, when he issued a flurry of preemptive attacks on the integrity of the country’s voting systems. The doubts he cultivated ultimately led to a rampage inside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, when a pro-Trump mob came within seconds of encountering Vice President Mike Pence, trapped lawmakers and vandalized the home of Congress in the worst desecration of the complex since British forces burned it in 1814. Five people died in the Jan. 6 attack or in the immediate aftermath, and 140 police officers were assaulted.
The consequences of that day are still coming into focus, but what is already clear is that the insurrection was not a spontaneous act nor an isolated event. It was a battle in a broader war over the truth and over the future of American democracy.
www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/13/yes-it-was-an-insurrection/There are many ways in which former president Donald Trump and his allies have used the passage of time and fading memories to call into question the true narrative of Jan. 6. They have suggested it wasn’t really Trump supporters storming the Capitol. They’ve said it looked more or less like a “normal tourist visit.” They’ve surmised based upon faulty logic that maybe the FBI was actually responsible for it. And most recently, they’ve begun pitching Ashli Babbitt as a martyr (despite few saying that when the video of her being shot circulated almost instantly).
But perhaps the most persistent revisionism involves that word most often used to describe the events of that day: “insurrection.” The idea that this word doesn’t actually apply epitomizes and neatly sums up the argument that the media and Democrats have oversold this whole thing to make Trump look bad.
The problem with that argument, of course, is that the word most definitely does apply.
In fact, both the GOP leaders of the House and the Senate, Rep. Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) and Sen. Mitch McConnell (Ky.), used the term early this year. Trump impeachment attorney Michael van der Veen also conceded at Trump’s trial, “The question before us is not whether there was a violent insurrection of the Capitol. On that point, everyone agrees.”
What unites all of these definitions is in what the actions are directed against: the government. The reference works cite actions taken “against civil authority or an established government,” “to defeat their government and take control of their country,” and “against their government.” That’s what made this not just a riot, but also an insurrection. There was an effort to change control of the government by force — the government two weeks hence, yes, but all the same.
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Post by morecowbell on Apr 4, 2024 6:13:12 GMT
There has been plenty of criticism of Biden. But, you dismiss it because the criticism does not meet your specific standards. We've criticized him for the war in Gaza, the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, the failure to pass voting rights. We've criticized him for mistakes that he made or factual inaccuracies like the bridge in Baltimore. We've criticized him for being too old and not stepping aside. In comparison, what have you criticized Trump for? We're not even picky. We don't have a specific list that you need to criticize him for. And there's a long list to choose from. That's EXACTLY what YOU do. You're projecting again. 😆 You repeatedly accused me of never criticizing Trump and when I point it out where I do, "you dismiss it because the criticism does not meet your specific standards."
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 4, 2024 6:16:17 GMT
There has been plenty of criticism of Biden. But, you dismiss it because the criticism does not meet your specific standards. We've criticized him for the war in Gaza, the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, the failure to pass voting rights. We've criticized him for mistakes that he made or factual inaccuracies like the bridge in Baltimore. We've criticized him for being too old and not stepping aside. In comparison, what have you criticized Trump for? We're not even picky. We don't have a specific list that you need to criticize him for. And there's a long list to choose from. That's EXACTLY what YOU do. You're projecting again. 😆 You repeatedly accused me of never criticizing Trump and when I point it out where I do, "you dismiss it because the criticism does not meet your specific standards." Asking again because maybe this hasn't been clear. What specifically have you criticized Trump for? And what criticism have we dismissed?
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Post by morecowbell on Apr 4, 2024 6:49:37 GMT
That's EXACTLY what YOU do. You're projecting again. 😆 You repeatedly accused me of never criticizing Trump and when I point it out where I do, "you dismiss it because the criticism does not meet your specific standards." Asking again because maybe this hasn't been clear. What specifically have you criticized Trump for? And what criticism have we dismissed? Again, because maybe this hasn't been clear, I'm NOT playing this game with you anymore. Again, because maybe this hasn't been clear, pay attention to the responses you get, remember them, quit lying about my responses or all of the above.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Apr 4, 2024 11:53:37 GMT
Plenty of law enforcement blood was spilled that day, but I guess we only care about that when it’s poor people/minorities/immigrants/drag queens causing it. ETA I cannot believe I have to add this, but: one officer died from injuries sustained during the attack. And plenty of law enforcement officers are still suffering physical and emotional damage from that day. Some had to retire from their injuries. Several took their own lives. But go ahead and assure us that the only blood spilled was a violent protestor’s. My point was: as opposed to shootouts happening all over by mass amounts of armed people IF it was an actual armed insurrection, it would have been bloody as hell, lots of people would have died and people would have been CHARGED with insurrection. Are you arguing that people shouldn’t call this an insurrection? Have you looked up the definition of insurrection? It fits.
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Post by compeateropeator on Apr 4, 2024 12:21:51 GMT
Again, people did die and there were a significant number of injuries. There were more than 1,000 assaults on the police. 140 Capitol and Metropolitan police officers were injured, some seriously with broken bones, crushed vertebrae and cracked ribs. 5 months after the attack, 17 officers remained out of work due to injuries sustained during the insurrection. It was bloody as hell. At least 123 people were charged with weapons charges. People were convicted of seditious conspiracy. Enrique Carrion, the Proud Boys, the Oath Keepers and others came perilously close to their goal of interrupting official proceedings. We almost had a constitutional crisis with uncertainty about the next president or how it would be decided. It was an armed insurrection. Those that participated are not patriots, hostages or political prisoners. Those convicted should not be pardoned for their crimes, especially not by the very person that lied about the election, invited them there and encouraged them. I understand. It was terrible and should not have happened. And yet no one was charged with insurrection.So if someone kills someone (technically a murder), but instead is charged with manslaughter to make sure that some accountability is gotten because of a very complicated court process and our propensity (rightly so) to make sure that innocent people are not falsely convicted, then is it still a murder by true definition? The murderer wasn’t charged with murder. To take it one step further - say it was your family member that was killed, would you be telling people well there was no murder because technically no one was charged with murder? IF that is the case that is really interesting take on it.
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 4, 2024 12:38:16 GMT
Asking again because maybe this hasn't been clear. What specifically have you criticized Trump for? And what criticism have we dismissed? Again, because maybe this hasn't been clear, I'm NOT playing this game with you anymore. Again, because maybe this hasn't been clear, pay attention to the responses you get, remember them, quit lying about my responses or all of the above. Thought so. Just like questions that you refuse to answer and falsehoods that you refuse to correct. All of them would be easy to answer, you are just deflecting and choosing not to. Speaking of lying, you falsely accused me of saying that the police officer in NYC was nothing special. I pointed out that this was wrong, but you still have not changed that either. Similar to extremist Republican politicians when you can’t argue something based on merits, you choose to deflect and attack others. I’m guessing one of your next posts will be more deflection, insulting others or playing the victim card. And this conversation has gone way past the point where it’s productive.
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 4, 2024 12:43:40 GMT
This is long, but it ties together a lot of extremist policies including abortion, judge shopping, attempted impeachments, Texas’ immigration laws, book bans and removing voters from rolls. Through all of it, Republicans refuse to moderate their opinions and instead, are lying and suppressing votes. heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/april-3-2024Revisiting the 2000 election reminds us that manipulating the vote through voter suppression or the mechanics of an election in even small ways can undermine the will of the people. A poll out today from the Associated Press/NORC showed that the vast majority of Americans agree about the importance of the fundamental principles of our democracy. Ninety-eight percent of Americans think the right to vote is extremely important, very important, or somewhat important. Only 2% think it is “not too important.” The split was similar with regard to “the right of everyone to equal protection under the law”: 98% of those polled thought it was extremely, very, or somewhat important, while only 2% thought it was not too important. Recent election results suggest that voters don’t support the extremism of the current Republican Party. In local elections in the St. Louis, Missouri, area on Tuesday, voters rejected all 13 right-wing candidates for school boards, and in Enid, Oklahoma, voters recalled a city council member who participated in the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, and had ties to white supremacist groups. Seemingly aware of the growing backlash to their policies, MAGA Republicans are backing away from them, at least in public. Earlier this year, Florida governor Ron DeSantis called for making it harder to ban books after a few activists systematically challenged dozens of books in districts where they had no children in the schools—although he blamed teachers, administrators, and “the news media” for creating a “hoax.” Today, lawyers for the state of Texas told a federal appeals court that state legislators might have gone “too far” with their immigration law that made it a state crime to enter Texas illegally and allowed state judges to order immigrants to be deported. (Mexico had flatly refused to accept deported immigrants from other countries under this new law.) Nonetheless, Arizona legislators have passed a similar bill—that Democratic governor Katie Hobbs refuses to sign into law—and are considering another measure that would allow landowners to threaten or shoot people who cross their property to get into the U.S. Indeed, the extremists who have taken over the Republican Party seem less inclined to moderate their stances than either to pollute popular opinion or to prevent their opponents from voting. While Trump is hedging about his stance on abortion—after bragging repeatedly that he was the person responsible for overturning Roe v. Wade—MAGA Republicans have made their unpopular abortion stance even stronger. Emily Cochrane of the New York Times reported today that the hospital at the center of the decision by the Alabama state supreme court that embryos used for in vitro fertilization have the same rights and protections as children has ended its IVF services. And on Monday, Florida’s supreme court, which Florida governor Ron DeSantis packed with extremists, upheld a ban on abortion after 15 weeks and allowed a new six-week abortion ban—before most women know they’re pregnant—to go into effect in 30 days. In the past, people seeking abortions had gravitated to Florida because its constitution upheld the right to privacy, which protected abortion. But now the Florida Supreme Court has decided the constitution does not protect the right to abortion. Caroline Kitchener explained in the Washington Post that in the past, more than 80,000 women a year accessed abortion services in Florida. This ban will make it nearly impossible to get an abortion in the American South. Anya Cook, who in 2022 nearly died after she was denied an abortion under Florida’s 15-week ban, gave Kitchener a message for Florida women experiencing pregnancy complications: “Run,” she said. “Run, because you have no help here.” Extremist Republicans have managed to put their policies into place not by winning a majority and passing laws through Congress, but by creating cases that they then take to sympathetic judges. This system, known as “judge shopping,” has so perverted lawmaking that on March 12 the Judicial Conference, the body that makes policy for federal courts, announced a new rule that any lawsuit seeking to overturn statewide or national policies would be randomly assigned among a larger pool of judges. On March 29, the chief judge of the Northern District of Texas, where many such cases are filed, told Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) that he would not adhere to the new rules. Rather than moderating their stances, extremist Republicans are doubling down on their attempt to create dirt on the president. With their impeachment effort against President Joe Biden in embarrassing ruins, House Republicans are casting around for another issue to hurt the Democrats before the 2024 election. Jennifer Haberkorn of Politico reported today that in the last month, House Republican Committee chairs have sent almost 50 oversight requests to a variety of departments and agencies. Haberkorn noted that there is “significant political pressure on the party to produce results after months of promising it would uncover evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors involving Biden.” But it is Trump, not Biden, who is in the news for questionable behavior. In The Guardian today, Hugo Lowell reported that Trump’s social media company was kept afloat in 2022 “by emergency loans provided in part by a Russian-American businessman under scrutiny in a federal insider-trading and money-laundering investigation.” There is more trouble for the social media company in the news today, as two of its investors pleaded guilty to being part of an insider-trading scheme involving the company’s stock. They admitted they had secret, inside information about the merger between Trump Media and Digital World Acquisition Corporation and had used that insider information to make profitable trades. Meanwhile, Trump is suing Truth Social’s founders to force them out of leadership and make them give up their shares in the company. His is a countersuit to their lawsuit accusing him of trying to dilute the company’s stock. Of more immediate concern for Trump, Judge Juan Merchan denied yet another attempt by Trump—his eighth, according to prosecutors—to delay his election interference trial. The trial is scheduled to begin April 15. Finally, in an illustration of extremists aiming not to moderate their stances but to impose the will of the minority on the majority, Republicans are putting in place rules to make it easier for individuals to challenge voters, removing them from the voter rolls before the 2024 election. Marc Elias of Democracy Docket noted today that states and local governments have regular programs to keep voter registration accurate, while right-wing activists are operating on a different agenda. In one 70,000-person town in Michigan, a single activist challenged more than a thousand voters, Elias reported, and in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, right-wing activists have already challenged 16,000 voters and intend to challenge another 10,000. One group boasted that their system “can and will change elections in America forever.” Rather like the election of 2000.
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Post by Merge on Apr 4, 2024 13:16:57 GMT
I understand. It was terrible and should not have happened. And yet no one was charged with insurrection.So if someone kills someone (technically a murder), but instead is charged with manslaughter to make sure that some accountability is gotten because of a very complicated court process and our propensity (rightly so) to make sure that innocent people are not falsely convicted, then is it still a murder by true definition? The murderer wasn’t charged with murder. To take it one step further - say it was your family member that was killed, would you be telling people well there was no murder because technically no one was charged with murder? IF that is the case that is really interesting take on it. Funny you should bring that up. Gia was mad when I mentioned my parents’ deaths in another context, but I’ll bring them up again here just to piss her off. The drunk boater who killed my parents was not charged with homicide though, in my opinion, he murdered my parents with his negligence as surely as if he had stood on one side of the lake with a gun and sprayed bullets at the other side. The DA explained to me that they bring the charges they are most sure they can prove, which in that case was vehicular manslaughter. I still don’t feel justice was done as he served only seven years, but justice would have been even less served if they had charged him with homicide and he was acquitted and walked free. I suspect the prosecutors in the insurrection cases have operated under similar intentions. Bring the charge you know you can convict on rather than seeing a guilty person walk free.
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Post by Merge on Apr 4, 2024 13:21:47 GMT
Again, because maybe this hasn't been clear, I'm NOT playing this game with you anymore. Again, because maybe this hasn't been clear, pay attention to the responses you get, remember them, quit lying about my responses or all of the above. Thought so. Just like questions that you refuse to answer and falsehoods that you refuse to correct. All of them would be easy to answer, you are just deflecting and choosing not to. Speaking of lying, you falsely accused me of saying that the police officer in NYC was nothing special. I pointed out that this was wrong, but you still have not changed that either. Similar to extremist Republican politicians when you can’t argue something based on merits, you choose to deflect and attack others. I’m guessing one of your next posts will be more deflection, insulting others or playing the victim card. And this conversation has gone way past the point where it’s productive. I also haven’t seen anything acknowledging that crime statistics are not based on convictions, so her wild statements about crime not actually being down in blue cities are false. Nor have I seen an acknowledgement of the foolhardiness of painting any one group of people as criminals because of the actions of a very tiny minority.
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Post by compeateropeator on Apr 4, 2024 13:47:42 GMT
I am so so sorry. And I am also so sorry for all that you went through and live with today because of this. I thought it was a valid point that you had before with the sad and unfortunate insight of personal experience.
ETA - I am also sorry if my post brought you any pain or discomfort.
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Post by Merge on Apr 4, 2024 14:01:10 GMT
I am so so sorry. And I am also so sorry for all that you went through and live with today because of this. I thought it was a valid point that you had before with the sad and unfortunate insight of personal experience. ETA - I am also sorry if my post brought you any pain or discomfort. Oh no, please don’t apologize. I just felt like my experience was relevant in both the cases where I brought it up. One never gets over that kind of thing, but after 17 years, it’s not difficult to talk about.
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Post by Merge on Apr 4, 2024 14:01:57 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 4, 2024 14:18:53 GMT
I’m really dreading what could happen. Trump and his supporters will learn from mistakes made last time. Also, Trump is desperate to stay out of jail, he has nothing to lose by trying to overturn the election. Republicans are already trying to purge voting rolls. From the article Trump’s plan to potentially steal a free and fair election should itself be a central issue of the 2024 campaign. It’s far more consequential than polls, fundraising tallies, or the electoral salience of student loan payments or a TikTok ban.
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Post by aj2hall on Apr 4, 2024 14:26:17 GMT
He and the others convicted in the Jan 6 armed insurrection are not heroes, patriots, hostages or political prisoners. And yet, Trump has promised to pardon him and the other insurrectionists. www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/washington-state-man-sentenced-over-seven-years-prison-actions-during-jan-6-capitol According to court documents, prior to the events of Jan. 6, 2021, Johnatakis posted numerous messages to social media revealing his intent to obstruct the election certification. In one instance, on Jan. 5, 2021, Johnatakis posted: “…and that’s why I am going to DC, to CHANGE the course of HISTORY #stopthesteal.” That same day, he posted: “ urn the city down. What the British did to DC will be nothing…”
www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/washington-state-man-found-guilty-assaulting-law-enforcement-and-other-charges-actions
Taylor James Johnatakis, 39, of Kingston, Washington, was convicted of seven charges, including three felonies, by a federal jury in Washington, D.C. Johnatakis was convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding, civil disorder, and assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers, all felony offenses. In addition to the felonies, Johnatakis was convicted of four misdemeanor charges, including entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds; disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds; engaging in physical violence in a restricted building or grounds; and engaging in an act of physical violence in the grounds of any of the Capitol building.
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