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Post by snugglebutter on May 6, 2024 20:11:26 GMT
How did he think he would get spousal support? Spousal support is given to the low wage spouse by the one earning more. Since he was the one earning money, that was just a way to harass her.
Yup. The same way abusers will often file a counter restraining order.
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Post by mom on May 6, 2024 20:13:24 GMT
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gottapeanow
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Post by gottapeanow on May 6, 2024 20:25:55 GMT
I have been closely following this case too. I totally think he did it. mom, I can't believe the ME is saying su!c!d3. Was the ME paid off? Lisa
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Post by mom on May 6, 2024 21:39:05 GMT
I have been closely following this case too. I totally think he did it. mom , I can't believe the ME is saying su!c!d3. Was the ME paid off? Lisa I dont know. I hope LE keeps investigating.
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Post by Zee on May 6, 2024 21:49:08 GMT
I don't know anything about this case other than what I read here but did see the post below by an 11 Alive (Atlanta) journalist I follow on FB, which is interesting and may explain why the husband is still a free man: tinypic.host/images/2024/05/06/1000006492.jpeg
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Post by mom on May 6, 2024 21:52:03 GMT
I don't know anything about this case other than what I read here but did see the post below by an 11 Alive (Atlanta) journalist I follow on FB, which is interesting and may explain why the husband is still a free man: tinypic.host/images/2024/05/06/1000006492.jpegOh I hadn't seen this!
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Post by Zee on May 6, 2024 21:54:42 GMT
I don't know anything about this case other than what I read here but did see the post below by an 11 Alive (Atlanta) journalist I follow on FB, which is interesting and may explain why the husband is still a free man: tinypic.host/images/2024/05/06/1000006492.jpegOh I hadn't seen this! I don't have Twitter but when googling to post this, there is a thread about it I'm sure you can easily find if you do have Twitter. ETA you can also follow him on FB and read there. It's a bit much too wade through but he basically came back and said he won't reveal anymore until LE addresses it because he guaranteed his sources anonymity. So, take it all with a grain of salt, but he is a known news personality and not just some random dude.
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Post by gottapeanow on May 6, 2024 23:42:00 GMT
@zee, this is interesting. Waiting to see what LE says tomorrow.
Lisa
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Post by ellemkay on May 7, 2024 0:31:41 GMT
This is local-ish to me (I'm about 60 miles inland from Myrtle Beach) and no one around here believes the husband isn't involved somehow. For divorce in SC, you have to be separated for 12 months unless there is adultery involved. There may be other exceptions, but that's the one I know about from friends experiences. The local news FB comments were flooded last week when this story first broke and even then people were saying there was more to it than her unaliving herself. It's wild to see all of the info that is coming out from people that have attended the church in the past, the women he's tried to solicit in the last few months, how similar Mica looks to his first wife, etc. I don't normally get invested in news like this but I can't seem to stop reading about this case.
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Post by tryingtobewise on May 7, 2024 2:58:04 GMT
I definitely believe he was involved.
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Post by casii on May 7, 2024 15:45:55 GMT
This has taken over my social media with true crime friends. He's definitely involved if not directly guilty of pulling the trigger. I hope justice is served.
I've seen clips of some of his sermons and they are full on misogynistic rants. He's why women choose the bear.
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Post by littlemama on May 7, 2024 15:48:44 GMT
The coroner ruled it suicide as well, according to an article I read this morning.
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Post by myshelly on May 7, 2024 15:55:30 GMT
This has taken over my social media with true crime friends. He's definitely involved if not directly guilty of pulling the trigger. I hope justice is served. I've seen clips of some of his sermons and they are full on misogynistic rants. He's why women choose the bear. Did you see the e video of him preaching at his mistress’s husband’s funeral (which first of all eeeeeeewwwwwww)? He makes a joke about how there’s no Democrats in Heaven. Every video I see of him is cult leader vibes.
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Post by casii on May 7, 2024 16:47:08 GMT
This has taken over my social media with true crime friends. He's definitely involved if not directly guilty of pulling the trigger. I hope justice is served. I've seen clips of some of his sermons and they are full on misogynistic rants. He's why women choose the bear. Did you see the e video of him preaching at his mistress’s husband’s funeral (which first of all eeeeeeewwwwwww)? He makes a joke about how there’s no Democrats in Heaven. Every video I see of him is cult leader vibes. Where he says it's the first funeral he didn't have to lie? Yes and he manages to come off as completely slimy in almost every video I've seen. Former congregants are now sharing their experiences. It's not good.
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Post by papersilly on May 7, 2024 17:12:12 GMT
Did you see the e video of him preaching at his mistress’s husband’s funeral (which first of all eeeeeeewwwwwww)? and when he said something like "this (the funeral) is the first time i will be telling the truth (about the descedent)". how tacky and insulting for the families whose funerals he's spoken at before.
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Post by wordyphotogbabe on May 7, 2024 18:34:32 GMT
This is exactly why I would choose the bear.
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Post by gottapeanow on May 7, 2024 18:59:19 GMT
The husband had numerous arrests for dv in his first marriage.
He reportedly made Mica get a b00b job. And there are reports of weird s3x stuff too.
Yes, the husband's dad was also accused of all kinds of stuff, but the grandson (the husband's son, Mica's stepson) was charged at least once with DV too.
The hole just goes deeper and deeper.
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Post by workingclassdog on May 7, 2024 20:02:35 GMT
Since when do you preach about your personal life in a sermon? He definitely has something to do with this.
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Post by littlemama on May 7, 2024 21:39:22 GMT
The husband had numerous arrests for dv in his first marriage. He reportedly made Mica get a b00b job. And there are reports of weird s3x stuff too. Yes, the husband's dad was also accused of all kinds of stuff, but the grandson (the husband's son, Mica's stepson) was charged at least once with DV too. The hole just goes deeper and deeper. There is no such thing as "weird sex stuff" as long as both parties are consenting and it is a safe activity. This guy is skeevy as hell so who knows if what happened was either of those things
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Post by myshelly on May 7, 2024 21:54:59 GMT
The husband had numerous arrests for dv in his first marriage. He reportedly made Mica get a b00b job. And there are reports of weird s3x stuff too. Yes, the husband's dad was also accused of all kinds of stuff, but the grandson (the husband's son, Mica's stepson) was charged at least once with DV too. The hole just goes deeper and deeper. There is no such thing as "weird sex stuff" as long as both parties are consenting and it is a safe activity. This guy is skeevy as hell so who knows if what happened was either of those things That’s not the case here, though. You can’t classify *any* of this as consensual. When they met she was 14 and he was an adult in a position of power over her. He groomed her, abused her, and then cheated on her. Both parties were not consenting. Both parties weren't even capable of consenting when it started. You cannot argue wHo kNOwS when one of the parties is a 14 yr old child.
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Post by littlemama on May 7, 2024 22:24:11 GMT
There is no such thing as "weird sex stuff" as long as both parties are consenting and it is a safe activity. This guy is skeevy as hell so who knows if what happened was either of those things That’s not the case here, though. You can’t classify *any* of this as consensual. When they met she was 14 and he was an adult in a position of power over her. He groomed her, abused her, and then cheated on her. Both parties were not consenting. Both parties weren't even capable of consenting when it started. You cannot argue wHo kNOwS when one of the parties is a 14 yr old child. I was not classifying anything. I simply stated that "weird sex stuff" is shaming people who like different things. There were no details as to what constituted "weird sex stuff", so you cannot make assumptions about what the poster was referring to.
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Post by gottapeanow on May 7, 2024 22:37:08 GMT
The husband had numerous arrests for dv in his first marriage. He reportedly made Mica get a b00b job. And there are reports of weird s3x stuff too. Yes, the husband's dad was also accused of all kinds of stuff, but the grandson (the husband's son, Mica's stepson) was charged at least once with DV too. The hole just goes deeper and deeper. There is no such thing as "weird sex stuff" as long as both parties are consenting and it is a safe activity. This guy is skeevy as hell so who knows if what happened was either of those things To clarify. weird nonconsensual s3x stuff.
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Post by myshelly on May 7, 2024 22:38:30 GMT
That’s not the case here, though. You can’t classify *any* of this as consensual. When they met she was 14 and he was an adult in a position of power over her. He groomed her, abused her, and then cheated on her. Both parties were not consenting. Both parties weren't even capable of consenting when it started. You cannot argue wHo kNOwS when one of the parties is a 14 yr old child. I was not classifying anything. I simply stated that "weird sex stuff" is shaming people who like different things. There were no details as to what constituted "weird sex stuff", so you cannot make assumptions about what the poster was referring to. NO ONE is having a random conversation about weird sex stuff in a random general way. The person you quoted was talking about *this* man and *this* woman in *this* case. The facts of *that* relationship are she was 14 and he was twice her age and in a position of power. Trying to justify that is gross and your comment can’t be taken any other way. Save your edgy preaching about kink shaming for when we aren’t talking about a practical pedophile.
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Post by gottapeanow on May 7, 2024 22:39:22 GMT
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Post by Lexica on May 8, 2024 1:10:31 GMT
Just my personal opinion, if it is true that her husband did not actually pull the trigger and kill her, I firmly believe he drove her to it.
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Post by Lurkingpea on May 8, 2024 1:53:58 GMT
Just my personal opinion, if it is true that her husband did not actually pull the trigger and kill her, I firmly believe he drove her to it. I agree.
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Post by Zee on May 8, 2024 2:43:12 GMT
That’s not the case here, though. You can’t classify *any* of this as consensual. When they met she was 14 and he was an adult in a position of power over her. He groomed her, abused her, and then cheated on her. Both parties were not consenting. Both parties weren't even capable of consenting when it started. You cannot argue wHo kNOwS when one of the parties is a 14 yr old child. I was not classifying anything. I simply stated that "weird sex stuff" is shaming people who like different things. There were no details as to what constituted "weird sex stuff", so you cannot make assumptions about what the poster was referring to. Oh I think there can be "weird sex stuff". If it involves animals, choking until someone passes out or nearly passes out so that the choker can get off, requiring someone to dress as an adolescent to be able to get off, or anything like that, that's weird. Not gonna change my mind. Serial killer shit right there. I also am incredibly grossed out by people that shit and piss on each other or wear diapers or get off on medical procedures like enemas and catheters, or who dress in those blind latex suits with the ball gags that Aliexpress is convinced I need, but I can mind my own business about those things.
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Post by mamallama on May 8, 2024 4:02:39 GMT
I just listened to the 911 call and read through the report. He was out of state and she was clearly alone, bought the gun alone. It’s heartbreaking to me that she felt driven to this. How an entire church could think him being with her after being her youth leader at 14 is insane to me. And to have dv charges on top of that? Nobody questioned it? This makes me mad on a level I can’t explain. I saw an article that said they had relieved him of his duty as pastor but further in the article it states “for a healing period”. If that church has him back I will be so mad.
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Post by littlemama on May 8, 2024 10:16:24 GMT
I was not classifying anything. I simply stated that "weird sex stuff" is shaming people who like different things. There were no details as to what constituted "weird sex stuff", so you cannot make assumptions about what the poster was referring to. Oh I think there can be "weird sex stuff". If it involves animals, choking until someone passes out or nearly passes out so that the choker can get off, requiring someone to dress as an adolescent to be able to get off, or anything like that, that's weird. Not gonna change my mind. Serial killer shit right there. I also am incredibly grossed out by people that shit and piss on each other or wear diapers or get off on medical procedures like enemas and catheters, or who dress in those blind latex suits with the ball gags that Aliexpress is convinced I need, but I can mind my own business about those things. Agreed. My original comment included "safe". And probably should have included "sane" as well as consensual. Choking isnt safe and animals cant consent.
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