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Post by onelasttime on May 14, 2024 20:08:37 GMT
This comment from Mike Johnson pissed me off. This is obstruction by members of Congress pure and simple in something they have absolutely no business messing in. So I’m asking the question in a poll. My answer will be no. Acyn…. ”Speaker Johnson: I’m working with Jim Jordan and James Comer on measures to rein in the abuses of Jack Smith” x.com/acyn/status/1790392518758334802?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw |
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Post by onelasttime on May 14, 2024 20:15:14 GMT
I posted the entire thread from Mueller, She Wrote in the Misc thread. But 3 &4 belong here….
“This is from Volume II - the Obstruction of Justice Volume. The treatment of Cohen was part of a larger pattern of obstructive behavior by Donald Trump. Eventually, Bill Bar would write a memo declining to charge Trump for Obstruction even if he weren't the president. 3/”
“That memo was Trump's ticket out of facing charges for obstructing the Mueller probe. Had Garland charged Trump with obstruction, a judge would dismiss the charges 100 times out of 100 based on that memo. 4/”
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 14, 2024 20:16:32 GMT
No, and they don't care!
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Post by onelasttime on May 14, 2024 21:02:30 GMT
The Rule of Law “Rule of law is a principle under which all persons, institutions, and entities are accountable to laws that are: Publicly promulgated Equally enforced Independently adjudicated And consistent with international human rights principles. The courts play an integral role in maintaining the rule of law, particularly when they hear the grievances voiced by minority groups or by those who may hold minority opinions. Equality before the law is such an essential part of the American system of government that, when a majority, whether acting intentionally or unintentionally, infringes upon the rights of a minority, the Court may see fit to hear both sides of the controversy in court.” This comment from Mike Johnson pissed me off. This is obstruction by members of Congress pure and simple in something they have absolutely no business messing in. So I’m asking the question in a poll. My answer will be no. Acyn…. ”Speaker Johnson: I’m working with Jim Jordan and James Comer on measures to rein in the abuses of Jack Smith” x.com/acyn/status/1790392518758334802?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw |
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Post by 950nancy on May 14, 2024 21:06:33 GMT
I feel like they believe "win at any cost." It doesn't matter to many Republicans what Trump did. It is what he offered them that matters.
Thankfully I do know people who voted for him in 16 and 20 that will never vote for him again.
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Post by onelasttime on May 14, 2024 23:21:30 GMT
This…. ”Gov. Burgum calls hush money trial a "sham trial" and a "scam trial."” Promoted this response…. ”President Biden’s son Hunter will soon go on trial for federal gun charges. Democratic Senator Robert Menendez is on trial for federal corruption charges. Democratic Rep Henry Cuellar faces federal bribery charges. As with election denialism, the GOP position seems to be: charges against our guy are a sham, charges against the other party are just fine. And you see no similar Dem attack on the above federal cases.”x.com/jimsciutto/status/1790450112583418290?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw |
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Post by onelasttime on May 14, 2024 23:49:16 GMT
The “photo-op” Party make it so darn easy to ask the question of this thread. More from Mike Johnson…. From dumpster don’s truth social…. ”Speaker Mike Johnson: “Just apply common sense. Everyone can see. It is painfully obvious. We are now 6 MONTHS out from Election Day. That's the reason they brought these charges here and across the country...The American people are not going to let this stand. Election day cannot get here soon enough, and we will continue to shine a light on all of this in Congress because we have that constitutional responsibility.” Once again all 4 indictments followed protocols by using Grand Juries. The evidence was presented and the juries felt there was enough evidence that warranted indictments to be issued. So the indictments should be ignored because this guy decided to run for President? Personally I think any candidate that has 4 indictments and 93 separate charges pending should be disqualified from running for the office of President. x.com/trumpdailyposts/status/1790526529384095925?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nwMore from dumpster don… Latin-American, African, and Asian dictators are delighted that the U.S. has lost the moral authority to lecture them on the need for a disinterested and independent judiciary and the rule of law. Our democratic allies in Europe and Asia are increasingly disturbed that the instability and unlawfulness apparent in the current lawfare put into question the reliability of the United States and its adherence to a rules-based order—whether at home or aboard. Any president who would sic the justice system on his opponent might be equally vindictive and lawless to his allies abroad.” |
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Post by onelasttime on May 16, 2024 0:19:37 GMT
I’ll admit when Ford pardoned Nixon I was glad because I was so tired of hearing about Nixon. But that was a mistake. Nixon believed he could do anything and get away with it. In a way he did because of the pardon. But pardoning Nixon gave us trump who feels as president he wasn’t and isn’t accountable for anything. So no President Biden should absolutely not pardon trump. No one should be above the law and that includes Presidents and ex-presidents. No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen…. ”New: Mitt Romney just attacked President Biden for not pardoning Donald Trump. He said Biden made an “enormous error” by not pardoning Trump or pressuring local prosecutors to drop their charges.” x.com/noliewithbtc/status/1790893174275076270?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw |
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Post by breetheflea on May 16, 2024 0:50:14 GMT
Thankfully I do know people who voted for him in 16 and 20 that will never vote for him again. That's good to hear because CNN keeps posting articles about how Dumpy is ahead, Dumpy is gaining on this demographic etc and it's depressing! |
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Post by coaliesquirrel on May 16, 2024 0:51:15 GMT
Absolutely not, They believe might makes right.
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Post by 950nancy on May 16, 2024 3:24:05 GMT
Thankfully I do know people who voted for him in 16 and 20 that will never vote for him again. That's good to hear because CNN keeps posting articles about how Dumpy is ahead, Dumpy is gaining on this demographic etc and it's depressing! I am just not going there in my head. Polls aren't always right and hopefully people start paying more attention. I really hope that the bragging of Roe v Wade will bury him. |
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Post by onelasttime on May 16, 2024 4:37:30 GMT
Rachel Maddow basically is saying, and I agree with this, that the Republican Party, not just trump, but THE Republican Party is giving The Rule of Law the finger. This is where we are. One of the two major political parties of this country is disparaging the Rule of Law. www.instagram.com/reel/C7AToDHxAhN/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== |
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Post by onelasttime on May 16, 2024 4:49:15 GMT
Of all the stupidest reasons for President Biden to pardon dumpster don this one takes the cake. Seriously! A quote from a CNN story…. ”Had I been President Biden, when the Justice Department brought on indictments, I would have immediately pardoned him,” Romney told MSNBC’s “The 11th Hour with Stephanie Ruhle” in an interview set to air Wednesday. “ I’d have pardoned President Trump. Why? Well, because it makes me, President Biden, the big guy and the person I pardoned a little guy.”
Screw the Rule of Law, I just want to be seen as The Big Guy! link |
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Post by hop2 on May 16, 2024 11:12:37 GMT
IOKIYAR
Rings truer & truer every year…
Do as I say not as I do
Which isn’t law it’s oppression
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 16, 2024 13:09:16 GMT
That's good to hear because CNN keeps posting articles about how Dumpy is ahead, Dumpy is gaining on this demographic etc and it's depressing! I am just not going there in my head. Polls aren't always right and hopefully people start paying more attention. I really hope that the bragging of Roe v Wade will bury him. I think in the world of today, those polls can’t be anywhere close to an accurate reflection of the general population because just look at who they are getting to respond to them. How many people do you know today who even answer their phone when it’s an unknown number? Many people don’t, especially younger people who might skew more Democratic. I’d be willing to bet that the people who do respond to those telephone polls tend to skew older, whiter and more Republican which is why they come out the way they do. I’m in my late 50’s and unless I’m expecting a call from a doctor’s office or something similar I never answer calls from numbers I don’t recognize. Like EVER. I don’t respond to text polls either, and I’ve been getting bombarded by them lately. I bet I get close to a dozen texts *per day* with requests for political donations, polls, etc. and I just hit delete on all of them because I really don’t want to get added to any MORE of those lists! I hope that the Democratic Party can get their act together fast and start messaging HARD and everywhere with what they have been doing and will continue to do for everyday people, especially women. I’ve seen a few video clips recently where random average people are being interviewed RE: the election and Trump vs. Biden and folks are just not connecting the dots.  How can any reasonably intelligent person not immediately see the vast differences there? How can people not understand that voting 3rd party, write in or not voting at all is only going to help elect the guy you really DON’T want?  I’m amazed by how many people of both genders don’t seem to get it that these oppressive laws being passed that restrict women’s reproductive health are going to come around to bite men in the ass eventually too, since they will hopefully be on the hook financially for all these unwanted babies they are unintentionally fathering. That’s one aspect of this whole mess that I never ever see being addressed. |
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Post by 3boysnme on May 16, 2024 13:19:07 GMT
They don't. They just don't.
But can you even imagine what they would say if anyone in the Democratic party would try any of the shit the repugs are pulling? Their hypocrisy makes me want to pull all the hair out of my head! Uggghhh!
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 16, 2024 13:34:37 GMT
crazy4scrapsHow many times will we hear, that's not my kid! All the court cost to prove differently. Men who run. So much for encouraging family units Men who attack or even kill the women. I just read somewhere that the acts of DV and killings of pregnant women has gone up since the Dobbs overturn!
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Post by crazy4scraps on May 16, 2024 13:56:36 GMT
crazy4scraps How many times will we hear, that's not my kid! All the court cost to prove differently. Men who run. So much for encouraging family units Men who attack or even kill the women. I just read somewhere that the acts of DV and killings of pregnant women has gone up since the Dobbs overturn! Here’s an article referencing the increase in homicide and DV for pregnant people since the Dobbs decision for anyone who’s interested. I didn’t know that homicide is a leading cause of death for pregnant people, but quite honestly I’m not surprised by that. slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/03/abortion-bans-domestic-violence-pregnancy-homicide-dobbs-roe-v-wade.html |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 16, 2024 15:17:30 GMT
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Post by peppermintpatty on May 16, 2024 15:24:28 GMT
Thankfully I do know people who voted for him in 16 and 20 that will never vote for him again. That's good to hear because CNN keeps posting articles about how Dumpy is ahead, Dumpy is gaining on this demographic etc and it's depressing! Those stupid polls are so misleading. The only people who respond to them are Republicans. Dems don't really care about the optics of those things and have better things to do with their time. There have been several widespread polls that actually have Biden ahead. Statistically, they are equal. The only good thing about these stupid polls are they are actually riling up the left to go out and vote. If Biden were way ahead, we would have another 2016 on our hands. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 16, 2024 15:48:36 GMT
From the above posted Slate article!!
Like I said, homicide is a leading cause of death for pregnant people in this country. So when you add an inability to control your reproductive life and to end a pregnancy that might be unplanned or unwanted by the abuser also, this is probably only going to get worse.
Would you call what’s happening with abortion and domestic violence an unintended consequence of the Dobbs decision or something else?
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Post by Gem Girl on May 16, 2024 19:38:26 GMT
I think in the world of today, those polls can’t be anywhere close to an accurate reflection of the general population because just look at who they are getting to respond to them. I agree. I also believe that, depending on the polling company, you can get a poll (or a statistic) to demonstrate any preference you have. |
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Post by Merge on May 16, 2024 20:38:05 GMT
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Post by flanz on May 17, 2024 0:28:49 GMT
Of all the stupidest reasons for President Biden to pardon dumpster don this one takes the cake. Seriously! A quote from a CNN story…. ”Had I been President Biden, when the Justice Department brought on indictments, I would have immediately pardoned him,” Romney told MSNBC’s “The 11th Hour with Stephanie Ruhle” in an interview set to air Wednesday. “ I’d have pardoned President Trump. Why? Well, because it makes me, President Biden, the big guy and the person I pardoned a little guy.”
Screw the Rule of Law, I just want to be seen as The Big Guy! linkWTAF??? I thought he might have a few brain cells left. SMDH! |
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Post by flanz on May 17, 2024 0:31:47 GMT
Not surprised but I am enraged by this BS!!! Abysmal! DEPLORABLE!! |
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Post by mollycoddle on May 17, 2024 1:06:35 GMT
Sure, if it’s a law that they like. If it’s a law that they don’t like(or a law being applied to someone that they DO like), not so much. Many Republicans have scoffed at Trump’s felony charges, and more than once I have heard “If they can do it to him, they can do it to you.” (I live in a red state, so this is the kind of stuff that you hear.)
There are Republicans who do not think that Trump should have been charged with stealing top secret documents. Although he was fortunate that the judge in that case, a longtime member of the Federalist Society, has conveniently delayed that trial for him. So helpful. 🥴
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Post by mollycoddle on May 17, 2024 1:11:43 GMT
I think in the world of today, those polls can’t be anywhere close to an accurate reflection of the general population because just look at who they are getting to respond to them. I agree. I also believe that, depending on the polling company, you can get a poll (or a statistic) to demonstrate any preference you have. I agree too. Although I never say never any more. But I don’t think that most people are paying attention yet. If they start paying attention and if they hear Trump speak, it is impossible not to notice his constant word salad. It’s not like normal aging, where you forget a word (which I do) or say one word occasionally when you mean another. If you listen to his speech at Gettysburg, or at Wildwood-yikes. He is having trouble speaking coherent thoughts. It is very noticeable. |
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Post by jill8909 on May 17, 2024 1:16:07 GMT
It's all nonsense. They believe what will make Trump happy. Period.
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Post by Merge on May 17, 2024 13:26:24 GMT
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Post by revirdsuba99 on May 17, 2024 15:37:54 GMT
TFG plan for DOJ & FBI. They are coming for all of us.. Reuters has released a lengthy report documenting a plan being hatched by President Donald Trump's allies to transform the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation into an "attack dog for conservative causes." The plan would essentially gut the wall of separation that has existed between the DOJ and the White House that was erected in the wake of former President Richard Nixon weaponizing law enforcement agencies against his political opponents. Essentially, the plan in question contains two parts, sources tell Reuters: "First: flood the Justice Department with stalwart conservatives unlikely to say "no" to controversial orders from the White House" and then "restructure the department so key decisions are concentrated in the hands of administration loyalists rather than career bureaucrats." More specific initiatives will include eliminating the FBI's general counsel, which enraged Trump during his presidency by approving an inquiry into his 2016 campaign's contacts with Russian government officials. Trump ally and convicted criminal Steve Bannon argued to Reuters that simply purging the DOJ of career officials wouldn't be enough, as the department needed to be restructured to answer directly to the president. "It's not just personnel: you do need to purge the DOJ, but you also need to reform it," he said. www.rawstory.com/trump-fbi-2668295682/ |
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How can any reasonably intelligent person not immediately see the vast differences there? How can people not understand that voting 3rd party, write in or not voting at all is only going to help elect the guy you really DON’T want? 
