wellway
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Post by wellway on Jun 12, 2024 13:54:44 GMT
Just thinking of this little pet in her princess dress and wellies just tugs at the heartstrings. Wishing mum the best recovery possible. BBC A five-year-old girl sat with her unconscious mother overnight before walking to school in her princess dress and wellies to get help. Poppy Davies waited all night as her mother, Leisha Davies, lay on the floor of their home in Pontllanfraith near Blackwood, Caerphilly county, suffering from septic shock. Poppy then walked to school and told her teachers “Mummy is on the floor and I can’t wake her up." www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4nn2lg3gego
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Post by JoP on Jun 12, 2024 14:06:25 GMT
wellway it certainly does. This isn't too far from where I live - she is a little superstar.
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Post by gar on Jun 12, 2024 14:11:46 GMT
A superstar 😊 I hope her mum makes a fast and full recovery.
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3boysnme
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Post by 3boysnme on Jun 12, 2024 14:39:07 GMT
Wow! What a brave, smart girl! I hope her mother makes a full recovery.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 12, 2024 14:41:15 GMT
Article was from January so assume mom has recovered or not - honestly I'm kind of surprised a school aged kid had no idea to maybe call dad or grandma or 911 (or equivalent in UK) She just sat with mom all night? Sorry but the fact she went to school the next day and said her mom was on the floor doesn't exactly make her a hero.
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Post by Zee on Jun 12, 2024 17:10:53 GMT
Poor little thing 😭
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Post by Linda on Jun 12, 2024 17:15:00 GMT
honestly I'm kind of surprised a school aged kid had no idea to maybe call dad or grandma or 911 (or equivalent in UK) I wonder if that will be more common with the decline of landlines. If there isn't a house phone - and many people don't have one anymore - I wouldn't expect a 5 y/o to have her own phone or necessarily be able to unlock mum's.
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Post by MichyM on Jun 12, 2024 17:32:08 GMT
Oh, poor baby. She must have been so scared. <3
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Post by busy on Jun 12, 2024 17:44:38 GMT
Article was from January so assume mom has recovered or not - honestly I'm kind of surprised a school aged kid had no idea to maybe call dad or grandma or 911 (or equivalent in UK) She just sat with mom all night? Sorry but the fact she went to school the next day and said her mom was on the floor doesn't exactly make her a hero. This was my thought too...
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Post by busy on Jun 12, 2024 17:45:48 GMT
honestly I'm kind of surprised a school aged kid had no idea to maybe call dad or grandma or 911 (or equivalent in UK) I wonder if that will be more common with the decline of landlines. If there isn't a house phone - and many people don't have one anymore - I wouldn't expect a 5 y/o to have her own phone or necessarily be able to unlock mum's. You can make an emergency call from a locked iPhone and I assume Androids too.
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Post by gar on Jun 12, 2024 17:55:18 GMT
I wonder if that will be more common with the decline of landlines. If there isn't a house phone - and many people don't have one anymore - I wouldn't expect a 5 y/o to have her own phone or necessarily be able to unlock mum's. You can make an emergency call from a locked iPhone and I assume Androids too. If she’s been shown how.
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Post by Zee on Jun 12, 2024 18:24:34 GMT
Jesus Christ, she's FIVE. Maybe she didn't know how to unlock the phone or that you can make an emergency call? Maybe she thought Mom was sleeping and would get up eventually, and when she didn't, went to get help? Maybe she's got a developmental delay? Maybe she doesn't know any other trusted adults? Maybe she was so scared she wasn't sure what to do? Maybe Mom passes out on the regular and this is the poor kid's norm? Hopefully she knows now.
The Internet is rough, man...
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Post by gar on Jun 12, 2024 18:25:57 GMT
Jesus Christ, she's FIVE. Maybe she didn't know how to unlock the phone or that you can make an emergency call? Maybe she thought Mom was sleeping and would get up eventually, and when she didn't, went to get help? Maybe she's got a developmental delay? Maybe she doesn't know any other trusted adults? Maybe she was so scared she wasn't sure what to do? Maybe Mom passes out on the regular and this is the poor kid's norm? Hopefully she knows now. The Internet is rough, man... No shit!
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Post by sueg on Jun 12, 2024 18:28:11 GMT
You can make an emergency call from a locked iPhone and I assume Androids too. If she’s been shown how. I agree. My 5YO granddaughter knows how to unlock a phone to take photos - hold the camera icon - but I don’t know that she’d know how to make an emergency call. They don’t have a landline in their house either, so - unlike her dad at that age - she wouldn’t have that option.
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Post by Zee on Jun 12, 2024 18:28:20 GMT
Jesus Christ, she's FIVE. Maybe she didn't know how to unlock the phone or that you can make an emergency call? Maybe she thought Mom was sleeping and would get up eventually, and when she didn't, went to get help? Maybe she's got a developmental delay? Maybe she doesn't know any other trusted adults? Maybe she was so scared she wasn't sure what to do? Maybe Mom passes out on the regular and this is the poor kid's norm? Hopefully she knows now. The Internet is rough, man... No shit! She's a loser 🤣🤣🤣 But for real, what a traumatic experience. I hope everyone is well and that she has been thoroughly versed on what to do if there is ever another emergency. And that it stays off the Internet.
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Post by Zee on Jun 12, 2024 18:30:26 GMT
I agree. My 5YO granddaughter knows how to unlock a phone to take photos - hold the camera icon - but I don’t know that she’d know how to make an emergency call. They don’t have a landline in their house either, so - unlike her dad at that age - she wouldn’t have that option. When my kids were little and I didn't have a land line, my phone was never locked and they had access to a phone, but I can see how now with smart phones people don't want their phones to be unlocked. This is a good reminder to be sure children always know who to get a hold of in an emergency, and how to do it safely.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jun 12, 2024 18:31:07 GMT
You can make an emergency call from a locked iPhone and I assume Androids too. If she’s been shown how. Exactly. I bet most 5 year olds haven't been shown how or have the ability to read enough to figure it out. It is a good reminder for people with young children in their life to show them these things.
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Post by busy on Jun 12, 2024 18:36:23 GMT
You can make an emergency call from a locked iPhone and I assume Androids too. If she’s been shown how. That's what I'm saying... I'm surprised she wouldn't have been taught that by her age. What she did was fantastic but it's too bad she wasn't equipped to have gotten her mom help sooner and minimize what certainly was a traumatic experience for her.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jun 12, 2024 18:37:52 GMT
Jesus Christ, she's FIVE. Maybe she didn't know how to unlock the phone or that you can make an emergency call? Maybe she thought Mom was sleeping and would get up eventually, and when she didn't, went to get help? Maybe she's got a developmental delay? Maybe she doesn't know any other trusted adults? Maybe she was so scared she wasn't sure what to do? Maybe Mom passes out on the regular and this is the poor kid's norm? Hopefully she knows now. The Internet is rough, man... Look at who the poster was. I agree hero wouldn't be the word I would choose but she was certainly brave. Some people haven't spent much time with 5 year olds and that is pretty apparent. 5 year olds are all over the place with reading ability, social maturity, emotional maturity, coping skills, problem solving skills, etc. I know some 5 year olds you could trust to read a recipe and cook a decent meal. I know 5 year olds who are delightful children who seemingly can't use a door knob. 3-6 year old kids are all over the place developmentally. Hence Kindergarten/Pre-k classrooms being like the wild West.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jun 12, 2024 18:39:31 GMT
That's what I'm saying... I'm surprised she wouldn't have been taught that by her age. What she did was fantastic but it's too bad she wasn't equipped to have gotten her mom help sooner and minimize what certainly was a traumatic experience for her. I bet most parents haven't even thought about it. I think it is one of those "until it happens to you" it doesn't occur to you that it needs to be taught situations.
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Post by busy on Jun 12, 2024 18:39:34 GMT
Jesus Christ, she's FIVE. Maybe she didn't know how to unlock the phone or that you can make an emergency call? Maybe she thought Mom was sleeping and would get up eventually, and when she didn't, went to get help? Maybe she's got a developmental delay? Maybe she doesn't know any other trusted adults? Maybe she was so scared she wasn't sure what to do? Maybe Mom passes out on the regular and this is the poor kid's norm? Hopefully she knows now. The Internet is rough, man... I'm not diminishing the kid in any way, for pete's sake. She did great. The norm in my area was to teach 911, including on a locked cell, as soon as the kid is old enough to know their numbers. I just assumed that was the norm everywhere and am surprised it's not.
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Post by busy on Jun 12, 2024 18:43:47 GMT
Look at who the poster was Yes, it's me, the notorious pot-stirring bitch who's been a part of Two Peas for over 20 years. Thanks so much.
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Post by gar on Jun 12, 2024 18:44:23 GMT
Look at who the poster was Yes, it's me, the notorious pot-stirring bitch who's been a part of Two Peas for over 20 years. Thanks so much. I don’t think she meant you.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Jun 12, 2024 19:03:25 GMT
Jesus Christ, she's FIVE. Maybe she didn't know how to unlock the phone or that you can make an emergency call? Maybe she thought Mom was sleeping and would get up eventually, and when she didn't, went to get help? Maybe she's got a developmental delay? Maybe she doesn't know any other trusted adults? Maybe she was so scared she wasn't sure what to do? Maybe Mom passes out on the regular and this is the poor kid's norm? Hopefully she knows now. The Internet is rough, man... Sure take the good with the bad. No one would have ever called her a her a hero - for walking to school and saying my mom has been on the floor all night - like why is this remotely postable? Honestly there's a dozen of things she could have done that might have helped her mom overnight - walking to school the next day is pretty low on the listt.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jun 12, 2024 19:47:53 GMT
Yes, it's me, the notorious pot-stirring bitch who's been a part of Two Peas for over 20 years. Thanks so much. I don’t think she meant you. I didn't.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jun 12, 2024 19:51:10 GMT
Look at who the poster was Yes, it's me, the notorious pot-stirring bitch who's been a part of Two Peas for over 20 years. Thanks so much. I didn't mean you. But as I have posted before you seem to take a lot of umbrage over what I post. Not sure why. I have been a pea for over 25 years. What does that have to do with anything?
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jun 12, 2024 19:55:26 GMT
Jesus Christ, she's FIVE. Maybe she didn't know how to unlock the phone or that you can make an emergency call? Maybe she thought Mom was sleeping and would get up eventually, and when she didn't, went to get help? Maybe she's got a developmental delay? Maybe she doesn't know any other trusted adults? Maybe she was so scared she wasn't sure what to do? Maybe Mom passes out on the regular and this is the poor kid's norm? Hopefully she knows now. The Internet is rough, man... I'm not diminishing the kid in any way, for pete's sake. She did great. The norm in my area was to teach 911, including on a locked cell, as soon as the kid is old enough to know their numbers. I just assumed that was the norm everywhere and am surprised it's not. Who is the teacher in this situation? The schools? Families? It is absolutely not the norm in my school district. I have zero idea what is normal among parents in my area though. It would be interesting to hear other schools teach it. Absolutely not part of our district's curriculum in this California district. If a teacher teaches it it isn't something I have personally had experience with and it would be something they did on their own.
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Post by gracieplusthree on Jun 12, 2024 21:48:01 GMT
This.. Can we not point fingers at the 5 year old who was probably scared as it was. Jesus Christ, she's FIVE. Maybe she didn't know how to unlock the phone or that you can make an emergency call? Maybe she thought Mom was sleeping and would get up eventually, and when she didn't, went to get help? Maybe she's got a developmental delay? Maybe she doesn't know any other trusted adults? Maybe she was so scared she wasn't sure what to do? Maybe Mom passes out on the regular and this is the poor kid's norm? Hopefully she knows now. The Internet is rough, man...
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Post by librarylady on Jun 12, 2024 22:19:47 GMT
If you read the article, it said the 5 year old opened the blinds and turned on the lights in hopes someone would look in and offer help.
That is not the logic an adult would use, but it was the logic of a 5 year old.
The next morning she went for help from the teachers at her school.
She is 5! Her logic and skills are not what ours is and never will be.
I am glad the mother lived.
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Post by RosieKat on Jun 12, 2024 22:56:47 GMT
I think librarylady sums it up best. It's not what you or I would do, but it made sense in 5-year-old world, and frankly, a certain amount of sense in grownup world, too. She may not have had a neighbor nearby, or had been taught not to leave the house at night and not to talk to strangers, etc. Also, have you ever observed ADULTS in a crisis situation? We don't always remember what to do, either. Even if she had been taught what to do, she might not have remembered anyway. She did what made as much sense as she could figure, and sat with Mum all night while she knew something was wrong, and told an adult in the morning. Thankfully, Mum is all right and the story ends well.
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