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Post by Merge on Jul 21, 2024 19:47:13 GMT
One thing is true: a Harris/Trump debate will be đ„
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MorningPerson
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Post by MorningPerson on Jul 21, 2024 19:48:32 GMT
Fuck me Seriously. What a stupid fucking thing for the democrats to do. I'd say at least 90% were going to vote for hin simply because Trump sucks ass. Now what??? 90% of us will vote for Harris or whoever the nominee is because Trump sucks ass.
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ellen
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Post by ellen on Jul 21, 2024 19:50:40 GMT
Having Kamala could draw in more young voters who are against old white men. and maybe lose votes because old people won't vote for a woman I attended a caucus meeting back in 2008. When people were talking about why they supported Hillary Clinton one older woman from my community said, âI have waited my entire life to vote for a woman for president.â You have older women who are disgusted that their granddaughters have less rights than they do. You are never going to find the candidate that appeals to every single voter. The thought of Donald Trump losing to a biracial woman makes me want to work to make that happen.
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Post by samantha25 on Jul 21, 2024 19:51:12 GMT
Party could nominate her at convention, then she could save the country....wishful thinking.
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Post by sunshine on Jul 21, 2024 19:51:24 GMT
has barack picked her running mate yet?
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 21, 2024 19:52:35 GMT
has barack picked her running mate yet? Go away.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 21, 2024 19:54:14 GMT
Regrettably, we're going to hear a lot about Harris being a DEI candidate. This writer makes an excellent point that Vance most likely benefitted from his identity, but no one is calling him a DEI candidate. www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opinion/jd-vance-kamala-harris.htmlEver since speculation began that Vice President Kamala Harris might replace President Biden at the top of the Democratic ticket, there has been a steady, ugly chorus on the right. The New York Post published a column that declared that Harris would be a âD.E.I. president,â and quickly the phrase ricocheted across the conservative media ecosystem.
The invocation of diversity, equity and inclusion programs meant to bring people from underrepresented backgrounds into institutions of power and influence clearly implied that a Black woman got power because of racial preferences. Black achievement, in this narrative, is always unearned and conferred without regard to merit.
Race is not the only kind of diversity that gets noticed and embraced. Elite institutions love up-by-your-bootstraps Americans, and that archetype is all over Vanceâs life story. A promising white candidate from a county that sends few students to an elite college like Yale would get a strong look, even if that personâs grades and test scores were less impressive than other applicantsâ. (To be clear, I have no idea what kind of grades or scores Vance had.) Regardless of race, applicants from working-class backgrounds, especially if they were the first in their family to attend college, are deemed to add class diversity.
I wonder: Why do people look at Vanceâs life story and achievements and see a vice president, and they look at Vice President Harrisâs life story and achievements and see a âD.E.I. candidateâ?
Kamala Harris and JD Vance, despite their political differences, have a few things in common. They were raised by tough, charismatic matriarchs. They both pursued legal careers. They both sought and won high elected office. They both come from backgrounds that are underrepresented in the halls of power. And now they are both engaged in the core work of politics â translating their stories into power. We would do well to ask why only one of these two remarkable Americans stands accused of getting where she is based on D.E.I. The answer, I fear, is written on their faces.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 21, 2024 19:55:00 GMT
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 21, 2024 19:55:04 GMT
Kamala is more than capable of being President. And so was Hilary. To say that they weren't shows your bias against women. You can say that you don't agree with their politics. You can say that they were too moderate, not conservative enough for you or whatever. But they are/were more than capable of running the country.
I don't know why Republicans are asking for Biden to step aside now. He isn't saying he isn't capable of doing his job now. He is simply saying he no longer wants to run for a job that requires 4 more years. But Republicans are going to do what they do, the immoral, soulless party that they are.
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Post by lisae on Jul 21, 2024 19:55:24 GMT
But with that said, I have to be realistic about a Woman of Colorâs chances below the Mason-Dixon Line. The only state below the Mason-Dixon line that Biden was winning was Virginia and that was even coming into question. It's doubtful that Harris will carry other states in the South either but she can at least try in Georgia and NC.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Jul 21, 2024 19:56:02 GMT
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Post by ellen on Jul 21, 2024 19:57:49 GMT
I am afraid. I think Kamala has what it takes to run this country. She is smart, she has experience, she is a moderate. I hope that her running mate will increase her chances of winning. But with that said, I have to be realistic about a Woman of Colorâs chances below the Mason-Dixon Line. I have seen and heard revolting comments about her here in AR, and I can imagine the storm of Bot-generated filth that is headed her way between now and the election. Look what they did to Hillary, IMO, itâs much worse now. I will do everything I can to help her become the first woman President, but I am afraid she has her work cut out for her. I am afraid. Then see what you can do to help in Wisconsin, Arizona, Pennsylvania, or Nevada. We arenât going to win AR no matter who we run, so donât worry about changing your state.
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Post by Gennifer on Jul 21, 2024 19:58:22 GMT
Regrettably, we're going to hear a lot about Harris being a DEI candidate. I mean⊠wasnât she? He said pretty early on that he was going to choose a woman as his running mate. I just donât see that as a downside, even though the GOP does. It doesnât mean she is unqualified, but he clearly was looking for more representation from women in his cabinet, and started with his VP.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 21, 2024 19:59:52 GMT
and maybe lose votes because old people won't vote for a woman I attended a caucus meeting back in 2008. When people were talking about why they supported Hillary Clinton one older woman from my community said, âI have waited my entire life to vote for a woman for president.â You have older women who are disgusted that their granddaughters have less rights than they do. You are never going to find the candidate that appeals to every single voter. The thought of Donald Trump losing to a biracial woman makes me want to work to make that happen. The idea of Trump losing to a woman, especially a biracial one, is really appealing. It wouldn't begin to make up for the hell he put this country through, but I would love to see him lose to Harris. And it could be a positive step in the right direction towards fixing a lot of the problems he created.
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Post by Gem Girl on Jul 21, 2024 20:00:10 GMT
Where the fuck is George Clooney and his ilk now? And who gave all that type of idiot the idea that having stood before a camera makes them a political expert? I'd sooner listen to a guy who's run a corner grocery.
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Post by peabay on Jul 21, 2024 20:00:56 GMT
I personally would love to see a Harris/ Michelle Obama ticket. I have so much respect for her and President Obama. But, I think she's made it clear that she's not interested in politics? very clear. And 2 women? Who are both POC? Just not how the tickets work. Unless you're Trump and Vance I guess
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Post by heckofagal on Jul 21, 2024 20:01:46 GMT
I personally would love to see a Harris/ Michelle Obama ticket. I have so much respect for her and President Obama. But, I think she's made it clear that she's not interested in politics? You think we could talk her into running for President with Pete as her VP with the clause she could step down shortly after election? đ€
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 21, 2024 20:05:24 GMT
^^We are past the time for disrespect!^^
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 21, 2024 20:05:55 GMT
Kamala is more than capable of being President. And so was Hilary. To say that they weren't shows your bias against women. You can say that you don't agree with their politics. You can say that they were too moderate, not conservative enough for you or whatever. But they are/were more than capable of running the country. I don't know why Republicans are asking for Biden to step aside now. He isn't saying he isn't capable of doing his job now. He is simply saying he no longer wants to run for a job that requires 4 more years. But Republicans are going to do what they do, the immoral, soulless party that they are. this isn't aimed at you, it was just the last post I saw that did this. In many instances women are referred to by their first names while males are by their last. Is it because there are so few women who have ran for president? Or is it something else? Hillary makes since since there are two Clintons.
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Post by Restless Spirit on Jul 21, 2024 20:07:27 GMT
And now the democrats should be slamming Trump as the oldest presidential candidate in US histâŠâŠ..never mind. Spineless Dems will never do that. Gotta play nice, doncha know.
Honestly, I came to the conclusion Dems really donât want to win.
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Post by peabay on Jul 21, 2024 20:08:51 GMT
And now the democrats should be slamming Trump as the oldest presidential candidate in US histâŠâŠ..never mind. Spineless Dems will never do that. Gotta play nice, doncha know. Honestly, I came to the conclusion Dems really donât want to win. Pressure on Joe to step down wasn't really playing nice - but it had to happen.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 21, 2024 20:09:12 GMT
And now the democrats should be slamming Trump as the oldest presidential candidate in US histâŠâŠ..never mind. Spineless Dems will never do that. Gotta play nice, doncha know. Honestly, I came to the conclusion Dems really donât want to win. Not only is TFG old he has cognitive issues. When will the media address them and his lies?
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 21, 2024 20:12:15 GMT
Regrettably, we're going to hear a lot about Harris being a DEI candidate. I mean⊠wasnât she? He said pretty early on that he was going to choose a woman as his running mate. I just donât see that as a downside, even though the GOP does. It doesnât mean she is unqualified, but he clearly was looking for more representation from women in his cabinet, and started with his VP. Not in the way Republicans use the words DEI candidate. Republicans are not just implying, they are overtly stating that she is not qualified or she slept her way to the top. Republican politicians really are reprehensible, they just double down and just continue to sink lower. thehill.com/homenews/house/4761576-jasmine-crockett-rips-chip-roy-for-kamala-harris-comments/âI donât think they [Democrats] can. Theyâre in a box,â Roy said. âThey are in a box where theyâve got to choose between a mentally incompetent president and a DEI vice president. And they know that theyâre gonna be facing a problem either way.â
âNobody looks at Kamala Harris and says, âOh man, thatâs the best we can do.â Who in the hell says that? Like literally, like I mean, this is someone who was given the title âborder czar,â and what has she done? Nothing. Destroyed our country,â he added.
nypost.com/2024/07/06/business/america-may-soon-be-subjected-to-the-countrys-first-dei-president-kamala-harris/America may soon be subjected to the countryâs first DEI president: Kamala Harris
Harris checked all the boxes: Her father, an academic with a Ph.D., is from Jamaica; her late mother, a biologist, was Indian. www.ctpublic.org/news/2024-07-18/harris-president-dei-republican-politics-biden-connecticut-protoThe head of the Connecticut Republican Party says that Kamala Harris isnât qualified to be president â or vice president â of the United States.
âKamala Harris was chosen for a reason and it had absolutely nothing to do with her ability to be the next president of the United States, to be the vice president of the United States,â said Ben Proto, the state GOP chair, on Connecticut Publicâs âThe Wheelhouse.â
âIt was clearly gender and racial politics that were put in play by the Democrats, and as a result they have a person sitting a heartbeat away from the presidency who really is not capable of serving in that role,â he said.
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Post by sunshine on Jul 21, 2024 20:14:00 GMT
has barack picked her running mate yet? Go away. đ€Ł Not a chance.
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Post by Laurie on Jul 21, 2024 20:14:39 GMT
Kamala is more than capable of being President. And so was Hilary. To say that they weren't shows your bias against women. You can say that you don't agree with their politics. You can say that they were too moderate, not conservative enough for you or whatever. But they are/were more than capable of running the country. I don't know why Republicans are asking for Biden to step aside now. He isn't saying he isn't capable of doing his job now. He is simply saying he no longer wants to run for a job that requires 4 more years. But Republicans are going to do what they do, the immoral, soulless party that they are. this isn't aimed at you, it was just the last post I saw that did this. In many instances women are referred to by their first names while males are by their last. Is it because there are so few women who have ran for president? Or is it something else? Hillary makes since since there are two Clintons. Not just in presidential campaigns does this occur. My sister-in-law is a doctor and at work she is often referred to by her first name or Dr. first name. The male counterparts are referred to as Dr. last name. She says it is like that all the time and whether she is in the clinic or the hospital.
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Post by edie3 on Jul 21, 2024 20:15:49 GMT
The idea of Trump losing to a woman, especially a biracial one, is really appealing. Isn't it? I read somewhere that the governor of NC should be considered. Roy Cooper is someone I love, his views are very much in line with mine. He doesn't have the name recognition others have.
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Post by ellen on Jul 21, 2024 20:16:31 GMT
Josh Hawley is an asshole and will always act like one when given the opportunity.
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Post by aj2hall on Jul 21, 2024 20:17:43 GMT
And now the democrats should be slamming Trump as the oldest presidential candidate in US histâŠâŠ..never mind. Spineless Dems will never do that. Gotta play nice, doncha know. Honestly, I came to the conclusion Dems really donât want to win. No, I think the problem is that Democrats still have ethics and integrity. Republicans abandoned theirs in an effort to stay in power and don't hesitate to play dirty. I'm not necessarily saying that Democrats need to sink to their level, but Democrats do need to be more forceful and aggressive in pushing back and not letting Republicans, big donors or the media control the narrative.
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Post by ~summer~ on Jul 21, 2024 20:24:04 GMT
Iâm glad. Huge respect to President Biden.
Now letâs just pick a strong governor and Trump will get destroyed.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 21, 2024 20:25:32 GMT
Donors are giving big time.. "What I am learning now is that I'm getting text messages from sources who say donors, big-dollar donors, are now abruptly, suddenly reaching out again to advisers to say they want to donate," Alvarez told CNN host Kaitlan Collins. "We had seen in recent weeks that some big-dollar donors were starting to hold back their checks over concerns and questions about President Joe Biden's candidacy." "Now that this decision has been made by President Joe Biden not to seek reelection, I am hearing from sources who say that these big-dollar donors are coming back in droves now wanting to give money," she continued. "Multiple donors had also reached out to the vice president's team leading up to this decision, saying essentially that they were willing to support her if she were at the top of the ticket." www.rawstory.com/democratic-donors/
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