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Post by katlady on Aug 12, 2024 0:05:43 GMT
I am pretty sure we've probably had this convo before, but what would you do if your kid forgot something for school (lunch, homework, gym clothes, etc.)? Would it matter if it was a constant problem, or just an occasional thing?
The reason I brought this up is because I was reading this one good commentary about how one parent sees it. She wrote that everyone forgets something, even us adults. But us adults have a way to "fix" the situation. If we forget our lunch, we can go out and get something. We have the car and money to do so. The kids at school don't. If we forget something really important at home, we can drive back home and get it. Or, we can even call our SO to see if they can help us out. The kids can't do that. This made me see forgetting something in a different light. Some even said they only bring a kid something they forgot once or twice in a year/semester. After that, no.
Now, for my boys, I usually couldn't help them. I took a carpool to work. Sometimes I drove, but my work was a 45 minute drive away. It was hard for my SO to help them too. They were pretty much out of luck. But thankfully, they didn't have any forgetting issues too often. Growing up, both my parents also worked. I don't remember ever needing them to bring me something because I forgot it. Plus, I grew up in a time without cellphones.
I tried to include a poll with the big categories, it doesn't include all the scenarios possible.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 12, 2024 0:12:25 GMT
Is child ADD? That might be the problem.
If child is not ADD, then teach child techniques to overcome forgetfulness. For going to school: put all things in backpack before bedtime. Put backpack in specific place each day...those sort of things.
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Post by Basket1lady on Aug 12, 2024 0:15:34 GMT
Our family rule was that they got a free pass once a semester. Everyone messes up now and then. I let them decide when it was important enough to use the pass. I was a SAHM, so it wasn’t a big deal for me to run something up to the school. But it quickly became a multiple times a week event.
After that, I decided if they actually needed the item. You forgot your scout vest and have a meeting after school? Oh well. You forgot your lunch that you packed? Guess it’s hot lunch for you today. But you forgot your instrument and you have a lesson? I’d schlep it up to the school.
BUT they owed me a half hour of their time. They either helped with dinner or did a chore. My time was valuable too. It seemed to work well and the kids have actually mentioned it a few times as adults.
I will say that DS’s teacher was GREAT about forgetting their instruments. I was helping in the classroom one day that was also lesson day. It was the 3rd week in a row that he’d “forgotten “ his instrument and she needed something done. It was a good 15-20 minutes to sign out, walk out to my car, drive home, get the instrument, drive back, pray there was an open parking spot, walk in, sign in again… She made him go to his lesson without his instrument. He was so bored and never forgot it again!
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Post by librarylady on Aug 12, 2024 0:16:02 GMT
I had a student who forgot her lunch every damn day...every day! I would have thought the parent would get in gear to handle it, but no...Mother was called mid morning by child to say, "I don't have my lunch." I was greatly annoyed and threatened to quit letting her call, but of course I didn't.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 12, 2024 0:17:23 GMT
I am a SAHM so it is easier for me. But yes, I have helped both dd and ds. Heck I have even helped dh.
And in turn, they have helped me.
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Post by melanell on Aug 12, 2024 0:20:56 GMT
We would bring them the forgotten item if they called and asked for it. If they did not call to ask for it, then we let it go, figuring that they decided they didn't need it, or they found a way to deal with the issue on their own. We had one kid that always called and we'd run whatever they needed to them. And then we also had the opposite, a kid who pretty much never called, either just dealing with it, or finding an alternate solution. Now, we did keep money on their lunch accounts at all times. So no kids was going to go all day without food or drink if they forgot their lunch or water bottle. But even with that basic rule, there were exceptions--one time one of them left behind a part of a project, and DH noticed it as he was getting ready to go to work, just moments after the school bus went by the house. His work and the school are less than 10 minutes from one another, so rather than wait for a call while at work, he left a few minutes early and the project component reached school before our kid did. We want our kids to feel they can call us when they make mistakes. If my kid forgets something and I refuse to help, or I give them a hard time about it; then how do I make them believe that another time, if they call from a party where things are going south, that I will come to help without giving them grief about that as well? We look at it as building trust with the little things, in hopes that it will encourage the kids to reach out for the big things.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 12, 2024 0:23:46 GMT
We want our kids to feel they can call us when they make mistakes. If my kid forgets something and I refuse to help, or I give them a hard time about it; then how do I make them believe that another time, if they call from a party where things are going south, that I will come to help without giving them grief about that as well? We look at it as building trust with the little things, in hopes that it will encourage the kids to reach out for the big things. Exactly this.
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Post by melanell on Aug 12, 2024 0:24:03 GMT
If child is not ADD, then teach child techniques to overcome forgetfulness. For going to school: put all things in backpack before bedtime. Put backpack in specific place each day...those sort of things. One of our kids used before and after school dry-erase check-lists for a few years, because they needed that kind of reminder. In both cases, they could not use any electronics or sit down to read or play until they showed us that the checklist was complete. In the morning that included moving everything they would need to the bench in the entryway where they would see it as they left. I may have been willing to bring forgotten things, but I was also going to try to reduce the need to do so--for my sake and theirs.
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Post by SabrinaP on Aug 12, 2024 0:24:10 GMT
I would make sure my kid has lunch money so if they forget their lunch, they can eat in the cafeteria.
I trained my kids from pretty young. We packed our bags and charged our computers beside our bags the night before. We always got up way earlier than we had to so there was no rushing around in the morning.
Each of my kids forgot their computer one or two times and I was able to go get it when they were in school with me. It never happened very often so I didn’t mind.
Once they got older they were in high school with DH and never had any Issues. My training from young helped them. DH isn’t the best at time management so it’s all them!
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Post by seaexplore on Aug 12, 2024 0:35:02 GMT
I don’t run my kids stuff because my school is 20 mi from one and 30 mi from the other.
Lunch is free for all so they can eat daily.
Water? They have fountains for a reason.
Instrument? Sorry- take the consequence.
HW or school books or computer? Sorry- take the consequence.
Have I ever rescued them? Nope.
Did their grade suffer? Not in the long run.
If I were a SAHM I might have rescued. My 8th grader has sent me a photo of something g needing to be signed and I just tell her to sit my name. So, maybe that’s a rescue? If she gets called on for it I will absolutely go to bat for her and tell them/show the texts that I told her to sign it.
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Post by librarylady on Aug 12, 2024 0:38:43 GMT
It was next to impossible for my parents to bring anything to me if it was forgotten, so I learned to get it together in the AM.
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Post by littlemama on Aug 12, 2024 0:41:22 GMT
Yep, I would want someone to help me, so why wouldnt I do the same for my child?
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Post by 950nancy on Aug 12, 2024 0:46:38 GMT
My kids came to school with me every day for k-6th grade. No way I could have gotten something for them. We really just practiced how to be prepared. Thankfully both of my boys are pretty responsible.
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Post by Linda on Aug 12, 2024 0:48:05 GMT
I don't drive so I can't rescue most of the time - I have 'given permission' for DD17 to attend a match via FB text before though - I'm FB friends with her coach and she had been absent when permission slips had been handed out. And I'll reach out to Dh on her behalf - rather than playing phone tag, she'll just text me and I'll pass along the message.
Dh has, on occasion, collected from school due to a period mishap, dropped off a project/assignment that got left behind, dropped off a lunch bag...but it's fairly rare. If it was something that was getting to be habitual, then a discussion would be had. Fortunately DH works less than a mile from home so he can fairly easily run over to the school on break or lunch. He'll also drive her to school if she misses the bus - that happens a bit more often due to anxiety (her bus has been in three accidents - in fairly quick succession).
We all forget stuff now and then. We all oversleep occasionally. So we try to give grace. BUT it's also easier for DH to help out now than it was when my oldest was in school - he went to high school in a different town than we lived (about 45 minutes away) and DH worked 45 minutes the other direction. Short of being too sick to stay in school - he just had to make do because it was a 3-hr round trip from work to school and back to work for DH.
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Post by melanell on Aug 12, 2024 0:48:11 GMT
It was next to impossible for my parents to bring anything to me if it was forgotten, so I learned to get it together in the AM. Good point. While we did opt to bring things to our kids, it was because either we were personally able to do so, because we were so close by, or, because we were lucky enough to have both sets of grandparents in the same town. And they were able and willing to help as well. If we worked further away, or couldn't leave work except for true emergencies or illness, then we would have had to explain that to our kids ahead of time, so they would know that there was unfortunately nothing we could do.
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Post by workingclassdog on Aug 12, 2024 0:59:05 GMT
I didn’t have this problem too much. If I was available I helped out. If I was at work then no. This was elementary school. Kids forget sometimes and I understand that. But if it was a chronic problem I would have let them suffer the consequences.
High school nope. I will occasionally bring lunch to my kiddo but not because they forgot it just because. Once I brought kid their headphones because I knew socially they needed them. That only happened once.
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Post by breetheflea on Aug 12, 2024 1:10:19 GMT
I have met kids in the carpool lane after getting a "I forgot my violin/ipad/running shoes/lunch/ project/thing due today can you meet me when I get off the bus?" text. I'm a SAHM at home, and the schools are less than 3 miles from my house so not a huge deal. When it was middle school and the i-pad and I had to go into the school to drop the item off, I'd leave a nice sticky note on the inside with a bill for chores owed
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Post by ntsf on Aug 12, 2024 1:20:06 GMT
I did it occasionally in elementary school. mostly never did in middle or high school. we checked a lot before we went out the door.
I do still remember in 1967.. I forgot to pack in the car my ski boots. we went skiing every single weekend..dad owned a ski school... and you were expected to pack your own gear and your own lunch. and we were out the door early on saturdays. I spent the whole day sitting in the lodge.. my dad was not renting boots for me.
and 57 yrs later.. I still remember that. never forgot anything again. my dad did have extra hats and gloves in his pack.. but those were mostly for the other kids.
we all forget stuff, so if I could help out I would. but with reluctance. I once sent my dh off with the kids for a camping weekend... and forgot to pack the tent poles. dh improvised.
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Post by malibou on Aug 12, 2024 1:22:38 GMT
My kid must have found a way to make do, as I can't remember ever having this come up. I promise you he was forgetting things, we see it in other things, just for sure not school.
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Post by smasonnc on Aug 12, 2024 1:51:22 GMT
BUT they owed me a half hour of their time. They either helped with dinner or did a chore. My time was valuable too. This. If a musical instrument or class project got forgotten I took it but they owed me the time back. It took almost an hour and a half to get to school and back so it was a considerable chunk of time. They didn't forget sports equipment for some reason. We got up a bit early and had a routine in the morning. Homework went into the backpack after I checked it the night before and the backpacks were by the back door on their way out. I made lunches in the morning and handed them to each kid before they went out for carpool. Sports bags were on hooks in the garage just outside the door. They would still forget stuff until they understood how long it took me to deliver things. We wanted our kids to be able to call us if they need us, but it's also our job to teach them to be organized and responsible. Taking back my time made my kids far less forgetful. They're adults now and all of them are organized and responsible but they call us for help if they need it.
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Post by styxgirl on Aug 12, 2024 2:02:32 GMT
I would help them if I was able. I know how chaotic and busy our lives were when they were in high school. Thankfully, I worked very close to their school and I am self employed so I had flexibility most of the time, which was nice. Thankfully, my girls weren't super forgetful and I taught them to do better than me and get their stuff ready the night before. (I am still trying to learn that! LOL)
If I would have thought they were taking advantage of my time and ability to help them, we would have for sure set some limits for some lessons.
Plus, the advantage now since they both live close by, if I forget something, the owe me a rescue or two! Hahahahha!
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Post by Merge on Aug 12, 2024 2:13:09 GMT
As a teacher mom, I really couldn't bail them out with the possible exception of giving them money for something they needed during the years they were at the same school.
They survived.
(Breakfast and lunch were free for all for several of the years they were in school, so that took care of forgotten meals even if they didn't love what they were being served. )
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Post by caangel on Aug 12, 2024 2:21:58 GMT
I'm a SAHM, but can be very busy. My kids are relatively responsible so I will bring them what they need because requests are only 1-2 a yr.
However, if I have done my job (reminding them excessively 🙄) and they don't do theirs (remembering or doing it when I told them to) then that's on them and I won't bail them out unless bailing them out ultimately makes less work for me.
Our schools provide free lunch and breakfast/snack so they won't go hungry.
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Post by BSnyder on Aug 12, 2024 2:49:33 GMT
I think kids deserve the same grace we allow adults. Particularly because their time and commitments are often not controlled by them. We rush them around, often on our agenda, and then wonder why they have forgotten something.
Getting out of the house with all of us trying to get to school or work, I know even with staging I would forget stuff sometimes. For example, leave without my lunch that I had sat my purse on, but only grabbed my purse on the way out the door. If my husband saw I left something, he was kind enough to drop it off. If rescue wasn’t available, then I suffered the consequences, as should be.
Imagine having someone that could help you but they decided, despite your best efforts and an occasional failure, they would allow you to suffer the consequences to prove a point. A family is a support system, if we could help, we did. If we couldn’t, we let them know and then they figured something out, but we also helped them with alternative solutions, when possible.
Now, if it were chronic, with no effort for improvement, that would a different conversation.
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Post by peano on Aug 12, 2024 3:43:07 GMT
It was important to me that DS learned to be responsible, BUT he has ADHD, and at the time, crappy executive functioning and was not a morning person like his mother. So I gave him one grace per semester and delivered the forgotten whatever to the table inside the HS front door which was always piled high with stuff for other kids. If he forgot outside those two times a year, he was SOL.
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Post by peasapie on Aug 12, 2024 8:44:57 GMT
Heck my husband still sometimes forgets something when he leaves the house.
My kids didn’t forget things all that often but yes, I have brought things to school and also brought them to school after the day was over to get something. It didn’t happen often, even with my ADD kid.
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Post by lesley on Aug 12, 2024 10:39:41 GMT
My DD is autistic and rarely forgot stuff because she was so anxious about getting in trouble. If she did forget something, there was no way I would have added to her anxiety by refusing to take it to her. Ditto DS who has ADD (although we didn’t know that at the time). We had a routine every morning when we got in the car: lunches - check, homework - check, PE stuff or instruments, house keys if they were walking home, etc. There were many times over the years that someone had to run back into the house!
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Post by melanell on Aug 12, 2024 11:31:17 GMT
I will say, that despite our willingness to bring forgotten items, we don't get asked to do so very often. Our oldest tended to be anxious, and they were the one who would absolutely call, but because they were anxious, they embraced the checklist "fix" we came up with, and after that they rarely forgot anything. The kid who absolutely forgets things the most is the one who never calls. They just don't really get worked up about it, probably because it's not always the same thing being forgotten, so the consequences stay rather mild. If you bring your homework to a particular class 178 times during the year, and forget it twice, it's not a massive deal. You just need to hope you don't accumulate all your instances of forgetfulness in the same class.
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Aug 12, 2024 13:16:15 GMT
My kid is 22 and works far away from where I work. If he called and asked me to bring him something, I would move heaven and earth to bring it to him or help him remotely to work out the issue.
When my kids were younger, I was a working single mom much of the time, and essentially a single mom much of the rest of the time.
IF I could help, I did. If I couldn’t, I’d try to help them work through a solution (suggesting how to ask their teacher for a late turn in etc…) but they had to deal with it. My kids very very rarely put themselves in avoidable situations. But we also tried to have a plan (check over stuff going with us in the morning) and I always kept money on their lunch accounts even though they preferred lunch from home.
Most teachers required permission slips etc well in advance, so that was never an emergency.
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Post by epeanymous on Aug 12, 2024 13:26:24 GMT
It’s an it depends. I am not going to purposely refuse to bring something if they ask and I can do it, but I can’t always do it and they know that.
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