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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 16, 2024 14:32:28 GMT
Did anyone else know about this? abc7.com/post/california-auto-insurance-set-rise-by-54-percent-new-report-says/15190456/LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- By the end of the year, the typical auto insurance policy in California will reportedly be 54% more expensive than last year. According to a new report published by insurance tracker Insurify, the cost of full coverage across the U.S. increased by 28% between June 2023 and June 2024 - but some states, including California, are seeing year-over-year rate hikes of more than 50%. Here are some key details: Avg. annual cost of full coverage (June 2023): $1,666 Avg. annual cost of full coverage (June 2024): $2,417 Year-over-year increase: 45% Projected annual cost of full coverage (end of 2024): $2,681 The jump is due to increasing claims, storm damages, and costly repairs.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 16, 2024 14:34:29 GMT
Our new AAA policy starts in September. I looked at my account and it increased by 16%.
Not sure if there will be a bigger jump the following Sept or not.
We also got a decrease of almost $200 for being members of 20 years, constant payments, and no files.
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Post by katlady on Aug 16, 2024 14:41:36 GMT
All of our insurances have gone up this year.
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Post by GiantsFan on Aug 16, 2024 14:48:48 GMT
Ours went up 20%. I'm dreading the HO renewal increase coming up.
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Post by Lexica on Aug 16, 2024 14:51:17 GMT
Ouch, a 54% increase is going to hurt many people! I wonder what mine will be here in Oregon now. I noticed many many lower prices when I moved to Oregon, which was part of my decision to do so. I think the one that had the most impact on me personally, well other than the cost of housing, is my electric bill. I was getting electric bills between $500 to $700 per month! Now I know a big portion of that was because of the pool motor. Another contributing factor was that the house had vaulted ceilings in the living room and master bedroom, both on the front of the house where the hot afternoon sun made the rooms uninhabitable in the summer. And there was no insulation between the roof tiles and the ceiling itself. The air conditioner just could not compensate for that level of heat coming in, even after having the ductwork replaced and larger grates to allow for more air in those two rooms. Here in Oregon, my electric has not been over $100 once. I will be curious to learn what the new auto insurance rates will be. I have an older Subaru that I still love and I just don’t really drive much anymore, so my rate will hopefully reflect that.
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Post by fotos4u2 on Aug 16, 2024 16:34:43 GMT
Ours has already gone up a bunch. Those yearly quotes are about what I'm paying quarterly not yearly and that's for 3 older cars (one is a 2001 with little value that I'll be donating to one of my youngest's friends in September when youngest heads to Spain for the year), minimal annual mileage and good driving records for all of us. I'm praying the cost goes down once I drop youngest from the coverage to put some more money back in my pocket!
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Post by needmysanity on Aug 16, 2024 17:00:09 GMT
Insurance carriers are also leaving California - GEICO, Allstate and Liberty Mutual are not selling new policies.
A dangerous side effect to raising insurance rates is that drivers are dropping their limits down to these minimum required limits to help reduce their premiums. Instead of purchasing adequate limits for their car, this leaves a potentially devastating gap between the insurance proceeds available to pay a claim. If you were to get into an accident with someone that has the minimum limits and they are at fault, be prepared to absorb some of the costs.
I worked in the collision industry (in CA) for years - I saw it happen way more than it should.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 16, 2024 17:14:20 GMT
Insurance carriers are also leaving California - GEICO, Allstate and Liberty Mutual are not selling new policies. A dangerous side effect to raising insurance rates is that drivers are dropping their limits down to these minimum required limits to help reduce their premiums. Instead of purchasing adequate limits for their car, this leaves a potentially devastating gap between the insurance proceeds available to pay a claim. If you were to get into an accident with someone that has the minimum limits and they are at fault, be prepared to absorb some of the costs. I worked in the collision industry (in CA) for years - I saw it happen way more than it should. I thought it was just home owners insurance policies? BIL works with AS and they still offer new policies for auto but have dropped some residents who live in fire zones.
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Post by kkrenn on Aug 16, 2024 20:06:49 GMT
I just got a quote from Geico yesterday for our Auto policy. Esurance is leaving CA and so I have until 9/18 to find a new carrier.
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 16, 2024 20:13:46 GMT
I just got a quote from Geico yesterday for our Auto policy. Esurance is leaving CA and so I have until 9/18 to find a new carrier. Whoa. I know our states insurance commissioner was trying to stop that from happening and was looking into the legality of it all. Haven't read anything about it since.
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Post by chaosisapony on Aug 17, 2024 1:07:47 GMT
Something needs to be done about the insurance crisis. How many more gigantic increases can people expect to bear? How long until people simply can't afford it and just go uninsured? My coworker has 4 cars and 3 teenage drivers and is paying $8500/year. I cannot even imagine.
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Post by garcia5050 on Aug 17, 2024 2:05:01 GMT
Something needs to be done about the insurance crisis. How many more gigantic increases can people expect to bear? How long until people simply can't afford it and just go uninsured? My coworker has 4 cars and 3 teenage drivers and is paying $8500/year. I cannot even imagine. We’re in the same boat. We have 4 cars and 2 young drivers. We pay $8,200 a year. I can’t imagine paying double. We don’t renew until May of next year.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 17, 2024 2:15:13 GMT
It was a shock snd I hope ours includes the increase as ours renewed last week. My husband had an accident a year ago and we added a newer vehicle in June. I was more than a little shocked when I saw our bill. We have autoclub. There are three drivers on our insurance but we don’t drive much.
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Post by Zee on Aug 17, 2024 3:19:55 GMT
Eventually, before it drops into the ocean tsunamis in a hail of wildfire ashes, mudslides, and earthquake rubble, California will be nothing but billionaires and hordes of homeless people. There will be no more working middle class because who can afford that? Who would want to? Just for nice weather when there's not a drought?
Makes the Midwest sound like a pretty decent compromise and the south, even moreso because it's warmer.
Then, when there is no one left to support the billionaires' lifestyles, they'll move out, the economy will crash, and you'll have the new Appalachians of the West. The cycle can start anew.
But it might be too late because by then humans will have been extinguished by AI robots who can reproduce by simply building new pieces or bodies for themselves. Human intelligence killed itself off.
They might keep some of us around as as pets in zoos.
And we won't need insurance ever again, problem solved!
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 17, 2024 3:29:06 GMT
As long as we have Hollywood, produce about 3/4th of the national fruits and nuts, provide over 1/3rd of the nations vegetables, I believe it is 30% of US milk, meat (beef and chicken), and have a out 22 (I think or is it 20?) produce items only grown in our state as well as provide 16% towards the GDP (highest if any state), I think we will be okay.
Oh and I am here for way more than the weather.
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Post by Zee on Aug 17, 2024 3:36:12 GMT
As long as we have Hollywood, produce about 3/4th of the national fruits and nuts, provide over 1/3rd of the nations vegetables, I believe it is 30% of US milk, meat (beef and chicken), and have a out 22 (I think or is it 20?) produce items only grown in our state as well as provide 16% towards the GDP (highest if any state), I think we will be okay. Oh and I am here for way more than the weather. But you won't be forever of something doesn't change. Also, I just heard on the radio today that Atlanta is now the largest TV and movie production area in the United States. Not to mention that I wouldn't be bragging about the amounts of fruits and nuts you grow without the water to do so, when those things can come from other states or Mexico or Guatemala or any of the other places they come from already. Who's going to continue to fund that great healthcare you enjoy if no one can afford to live there anymore? The cows and chickens?
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Post by seaexplore on Aug 17, 2024 4:19:42 GMT
Well, we are almost at the breaking point here in CA.... DH takes care of the bills, I bring in the money, so I can only go off what he's told me. We live off my teacher salary.
Water/sewer is now $500 for 2 months and going up to $700/2 months next year and the year after it will be $900/2mo. There are more increases on the horizon. Homeowners went up to I don't know what but I do know it increased Car insurance went up by I don't know how much (it was a 49.5% increase over the year before)- we have a 2005 Sequoia and a 2012 charger and a 1995 T-100 pick up My medical insurance (for bottom of the barrel Kaiser) is now over $2000/mo and it's going up 9% in October Food is ridiculously expensive even shopping sales/coupons/costco Natural gas bill is $125/mo (gas dryer, grill, oven, on demand water heater) Gas is $4.89/gallon where I live at the "cheap" station and I use more than 20 gallons a week for work and kids sports. That doesn't even account for the gas DH uses running kids for school. Registration on vehicles and our boat (which will be getting sold soon) has all increased. My kids sports are raising their tuition and costs so those are needing to be re-evaluated too. It's the LAST thing we will cut because sports are important to us in addition to education to make a well rounded kid.
Thankfully we have solar and aren't getting $900/mo bills like many I know- that would probably break us.
And in my district the union is fighting for a 1% COLA (which in no way will cover ALL the "living" increases we're facing). That's bullshit. Our "deputy superintendent" (NOT superintendent- it's another position) got a 4% pay raise, they're giving signing bonuses of $7500 for special ed teachers and $5000 for regular ed, they've increased daily sub pay to $200 and $250 (over 20 days subbed) and the district can't manage to support those teachers they already have.
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Post by ntsf on Aug 17, 2024 4:21:09 GMT
this is why many young adults in san francisco don't drive and don't own cars. it is too expensive between insurance and parking tickets.
so the young adults take uber and the bus. we all make choices. I'm a fan of more public transportation.
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Post by snyder on Aug 17, 2024 5:13:31 GMT
Its a vicious circle. Auto makers compete with each other to make the most desirable car. Americans are greedy and need the lastest and greatest. Insurance companies are part of the corporate greed. For years and years and years they collected premiums with minimal payouts. Then, we started experiencing huge disaster such as floods, huricanes, 3=4" hail storms, fires, ect. Insurance companies began paying out on huge claim on those very, very expensive cars. But, they were semi broke when this started as the big wigs put our premiums in their pockets to pay for their luxury lifestyle. So the insurance companies start raising our premiums and we have more disasters and they have to payout more and more on those very, very expensive cars. So they raise our premiums again. So, we as American' are some of the issue having to have the best of everything. Automakers are some of the issue because they have to be the best and keep making more expensive vehicles. The insurace companies are a huge part of the issue as they spent the nest egg leaving them short to pay for these huge payouts. It is so sad it has come to this.
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Post by caangel on Aug 17, 2024 5:50:29 GMT
Natural gas bill is $125/mo (gas dryer, grill, oven, on demand water heater) Wow, I'm in So Cal/OC My natural gas bill was $14 this month, doubles in the winter when we turn on the heat. We have your same appliances except no grill and oven is electric.
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Post by seaexplore on Aug 17, 2024 6:07:15 GMT
Natural gas bill is $125/mo (gas dryer, grill, oven, on demand water heater) Wow, I'm in So Cal/OC My natural gas bill was $14 this month, doubles in the winter when we turn on the heat. We have your same appliances except no grill and oven is electric. We hardly use the grill and don’t use the oven much in the summer because it’s so hot. I do 2-4 loads of wash a week. We live in Calaveras county.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 17, 2024 15:17:26 GMT
Well, we are almost at the breaking point here in CA.... DH takes care of the bills, I bring in the money, so I can only go off what he's told me. We live off my teacher salary. Water/sewer is now $500 for 2 months and going up to $700/2 months next year and the year after it will be $900/2mo. There are more increases on the horizon. Homeowners went up to I don't know what but I do know it increased Car insurance went up by I don't know how much (it was a 49.5% increase over the year before)- we have a 2005 Sequoia and a 2012 charger and a 1995 T-100 pick up My medical insurance (for bottom of the barrel Kaiser) is now over $2000/mo and it's going up 9% in October Food is ridiculously expensive even shopping sales/coupons/costco Natural gas bill is $125/mo (gas dryer, grill, oven, on demand water heater) Gas is $4.89/gallon where I live at the "cheap" station and I use more than 20 gallons a week for work and kids sports. That doesn't even account for the gas DH uses running kids for school. Registration on vehicles and our boat (which will be getting sold soon) has all increased. My kids sports are raising their tuition and costs so those are needing to be re-evaluated too. It's the LAST thing we will cut because sports are important to us in addition to education to make a well rounded kid. Thankfully we have solar and aren't getting $900/mo bills like many I know- that would probably break us. I don't know where you live but this is not even close to true for me. My last water/trash/sewer bill was $127.92 for 2 months. My last So Cal Gas bill was $24.90 (gas dryer, oven & water heater) My last Edison bill was $206.97 and that was running the AC every day, no solar. I filled up my gas tank at $3.93 per gallon last Wednesday. The registration on my car is $296 and my car insurance was $600 annually. It's not due to renew until later this year. Yes, my homeowners insurance increased 45% to $1,100 but honestly, I was more worried that they were going to cancel my policy so I guess I'm happy?
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Post by snyder on Aug 17, 2024 15:29:26 GMT
Well, we are almost at the breaking point here in CA.... DH takes care of the bills, I bring in the money, so I can only go off what he's told me. We live off my teacher salary. Water/sewer is now $500 for 2 months and going up to $700/2 months next year and the year after it will be $900/2mo. There are more increases on the horizon. Homeowners went up to I don't know what but I do know it increased Car insurance went up by I don't know how much (it was a 49.5% increase over the year before)- we have a 2005 Sequoia and a 2012 charger and a 1995 T-100 pick up My medical insurance (for bottom of the barrel Kaiser) is now over $2000/mo and it's going up 9% in October Food is ridiculously expensive even shopping sales/coupons/costco Natural gas bill is $125/mo (gas dryer, grill, oven, on demand water heater) Gas is $4.89/gallon where I live at the "cheap" station and I use more than 20 gallons a week for work and kids sports. That doesn't even account for the gas DH uses running kids for school. Registration on vehicles and our boat (which will be getting sold soon) has all increased. My kids sports are raising their tuition and costs so those are needing to be re-evaluated too. It's the LAST thing we will cut because sports are important to us in addition to education to make a well rounded kid. Thankfully we have solar and aren't getting $900/mo bills like many I know- that would probably break us. I don't know where you live but this is not even close to true for me. My last water/trash/sewer bill was $127.92 for 2 months. My last So Cal Gas bill was $24.90 (gas dryer, oven & water heater) My last Edison bill was $206.97 and that was running the AC every day, no solar. I filled up my gas tank at $3.93 per gallon last Wednesday. The registration on my car is $296 and my car insurance was $600 annually. It's not due to renew until later this year. Yes, my homeowners insurance increased 45% to $1,100 but honestly, I was more worried that they were going to cancel my policy so I guess I'm happy? Oh wow pinklady I don't live in CA, but my insurnce is about 3 times what yours are. My car is full coverage though. They say that full coverage doesn't add to your bill that much as the liability portion is what makes your bill up there in price.
If you don't mind, will you share who your insurances are through? It might help others to shop around. One use to have an insurance company for years on end, but now they say those days are over and you do need to shop around.
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Post by GiantsFan on Aug 17, 2024 15:31:48 GMT
Eventually, before it drops into the ocean tsunamis in a hail of wildfire ashes, mudslides, and earthquake rubble, California will be nothing but billionaires and hordes of homeless people. There will be no more working middle class because who can afford that? Who would want to? Just for nice weather when there's not a drought? Makes the Midwest sound like a pretty decent compromise and the south, even moreso because it's warmer. Then, when there is no one left to support the billionaires' lifestyles, they'll move out, the economy will crash, and you'll have the new Appalachians of the West. The cycle can start anew. But it might be too late because by then humans will have been extinguished by AI robots who can reproduce by simply building new pieces or bodies for themselves. Human intelligence killed itself off. They might keep some of us around as as pets in zoos. And we won't need insurance ever again, problem solved! Wow! Tell us you hate California without telling us you hate California.
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Post by pinklady on Aug 17, 2024 15:36:37 GMT
Oh wow pinklady I don't live in CA, but my insurnce is about 3 times what yours are. My car is full coverage though. They say that full coverage doesn't add to your bill that much as the liability portion is what makes your bill up there in price. If you don't mind, will you share who your insurances are through? It might help others to shop around. One use to have an insurance company for years on end, but now they say those days are over and you do need to shop around.
My car insurance is thru Mercury and my homeowners is thru Farmers. When I bought my house in 2008 Mercury would not write a new homeowners insurance policy. I'm guessing because of the housing market crash at the time. So I've never had my car and auto insurance combined.
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Post by snyder on Aug 17, 2024 15:40:50 GMT
Oh wow pinklady I don't live in CA, but my insurnce is about 3 times what yours are. My car is full coverage though. They say that full coverage doesn't add to your bill that much as the liability portion is what makes your bill up there in price. If you don't mind, will you share who your insurances are through? It might help others to shop around. One use to have an insurance company for years on end, but now they say those days are over and you do need to shop around.
My car insurance is thru Mercury and my homeowners is thru Farmers. When I bought my house in 2008 Mercury would not write a new homeowners insurance policy. I'm guessing because of the housing market crash at the time. So I've never had my car and auto insurance combined. Thank you. Farmers here seems to be on the highside here in Colorado. I had them before. When we had the fires, they were one company we heard the most complaints about. But, I totally understand, when you have close to 600 homes burn on two different occasions, you do have to look out for your company and go strickly by the book as to what you pay out and many were underinsured.
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Post by pantsonfire on Aug 17, 2024 15:43:36 GMT
In late spring through mid fall sometimes late fall out gas bill is $30-45. We have gas stove and gas dryer.
In cold months it runs $80-110.
SCE for electricity is $50-60 in cool and cold months. $350-789 in hot months. Depends on how many cooler days we have where we can have the house opened and fans running. We keep it at 75° due to medical needs. January is usually just over 100 due to Christmas lights.
Auto Insurance is $2200 for a year spread over 9 months. We have premium insurance with low deductible and high payouts.
Renewal for one vehicle was $216 (newer) and 10 yr old vehicle was $146.
Gas here is $3.85. $3.99 for premium.
Health care is 100% covered by dh's district. $15/30 co pays (higher for out of network PPO). Dental gives us $2500 coverage, then we pay out of pocket. Vision gives us up to $500 for glasses with a $35 co pay.
Full coverage, low deductible renters insurance with earthquake and fire is $230 paid once for year coverage.
Homes here have dropped in price. $550-650,000. It was up to $800,000. This is new builds.
Our trash, water, sewer for 1 month is $110.
Typical weekly grocery run is $200-250. Every so often, like this last shopping trip, it is $120-$140.
We have reduced our unhoused residents by 41% during a year through programs and turning old motels into units with services.
Ds accesses services provided by Regional Center and they have been a huge help. We got free legal aid for SSI, MediCal, conservatorship, and will get it for IHSS. We are now with the recs program and get reimbursed for outings. We will have access to adult programs when da turns 22. They will cover a lot of a private group home then SSI will cover the rest. We will have zero to little out of pocket expenses.
Great food waste program for composting.
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Post by seaexplore on Aug 17, 2024 15:57:20 GMT
Well, we are almost at the breaking point here in CA.... DH takes care of the bills, I bring in the money, so I can only go off what he's told me. We live off my teacher salary. Water/sewer is now $500 for 2 months and going up to $700/2 months next year and the year after it will be $900/2mo. There are more increases on the horizon. Homeowners went up to I don't know what but I do know it increased Car insurance went up by I don't know how much (it was a 49.5% increase over the year before)- we have a 2005 Sequoia and a 2012 charger and a 1995 T-100 pick up My medical insurance (for bottom of the barrel Kaiser) is now over $2000/mo and it's going up 9% in October Food is ridiculously expensive even shopping sales/coupons/costco Natural gas bill is $125/mo (gas dryer, grill, oven, on demand water heater) Gas is $4.89/gallon where I live at the "cheap" station and I use more than 20 gallons a week for work and kids sports. That doesn't even account for the gas DH uses running kids for school. Registration on vehicles and our boat (which will be getting sold soon) has all increased. My kids sports are raising their tuition and costs so those are needing to be re-evaluated too. It's the LAST thing we will cut because sports are important to us in addition to education to make a well rounded kid. Thankfully we have solar and aren't getting $900/mo bills like many I know- that would probably break us. I don't know where you live but this is not even close to true for me. My last water/trash/sewer bill was $127.92 for 2 months. My last So Cal Gas bill was $24.90 (gas dryer, oven & water heater) My last Edison bill was $206.97 and that was running the AC every day, no solar. I filled up my gas tank at $3.93 per gallon last Wednesday. The registration on my car is $296 and my car insurance was $600 annually. It's not due to renew until later this year. Yes, my homeowners insurance increased 45% to $1,100 but honestly, I was more worried that they were going to cancel my policy so I guess I'm happy? Calaveras County. We are a hot mess.
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Post by Zee on Aug 17, 2024 16:08:57 GMT
Eventually, before it drops into the ocean tsunamis in a hail of wildfire ashes, mudslides, and earthquake rubble, California will be nothing but billionaires and hordes of homeless people. There will be no more working middle class because who can afford that? Who would want to? Just for nice weather when there's not a drought? Makes the Midwest sound like a pretty decent compromise and the south, even moreso because it's warmer. Then, when there is no one left to support the billionaires' lifestyles, they'll move out, the economy will crash, and you'll have the new Appalachians of the West. The cycle can start anew. But it might be too late because by then humans will have been extinguished by AI robots who can reproduce by simply building new pieces or bodies for themselves. Human intelligence killed itself off. They might keep some of us around as as pets in zoos. And we won't need insurance ever again, problem solved! Wow! Tell us you hate California without telling us you hate California. I don't hate California at all, it's beautiful! I got married there. It's humans who ruin it. It should be turned into a giant national Park.
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Post by Scrapper100 on Aug 17, 2024 16:45:16 GMT
Natural gas bill is $125/mo (gas dryer, grill, oven, on demand water heater) Wow, I'm in So Cal/OC My natural gas bill was $14 this month, doubles in the winter when we turn on the heat. We have your same appliances except no grill and oven is electric. Same here. It was $21 for stove, dryer and water heater. Now in the winter it might go to $200 I think a year ago it got really high but thank goodness this last winter the prices weren’t as bad.
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