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Even more mysterious that even a bloodhound found nothing. If they left on foot you would think the dog would have picked up something.

This sounds quite suspicious. I wonder just how much of a concern this couple could be to the other side of the lawsuit. They sound like they are a pretty mild-mannered elderly couple and of no tremendous threat to anyone. I hope they are found soon.

This sounds so much like the case of the missing McStay family in Fallbrook. The family were later found murdered. Their home was left as if they had just stepped out, with food left on the counters. I think even the mom's glasses were still on the counter. Their car was found abandoned at the border. There were no indications of a struggle or altercation at their home.

I hope nothing bad has happened to them and they are found.

I am wondering (which other skilled in missing persons people would know)...If they were nude, would there be less scent for the dogs?
I see shows/reports and it always shows the dog being given clothing to sniff to find the humans. In this case, whatever clothing they wore would not have much scent (it seems to me) because the the clothes were not worn often, or for very long.
Perhaps I am off in my knowledge, but if they were nudist, then they would only wear clothing when going on errands (grocery shopping for example) so the clothing might not have much scent.

With her mobility problems, it sounds like a search by humans (who walk almost beside one another) and cover a circle of a mile or two from the home might turn up their bodies (I am presuming death since a week has gone by).

So many questions. Anyone know what they were sueing the Ranch for? My best guess is the lawsuit has something to do with them being missing. The fact they were already being harassed about it makes me think someone doesn't want the lawsuit moving forward.

 This is horrifying.


Good question. The only time I've been close to a search using scent dogs LEO wanted dirty socks as the best scent source but the person had done their laundry the night before so they took a pillow case.

I also think they need to be doing an on foot, super close together search especially for her. Dementia walkers can easily go miles in a few hours as we discovered with my mom, but this woman couldn't.

From the little I could find, it looks like a large number (maybe even all?) community members were suing the management group. The weird thing is it looks like plaintiffs were numbered anonymously and not named in the court filing. 

It looks like there was a history of trouble at that ranch. I found an older lawsuit, 2017, regarding the two brothers, Robert and Ronald, sons of the original owners of the nudist ranch. When the parents passed, they left the ranch equally to the two sons in a trust and that profits from the facility were to be shared equally between the two of them. Then I guess one brother, Robert, had the other brother, Ronald kicked out and he and his wife were running the place, but not doing a good job of it. They claimed there was no profit to share so no money was owed to the brother. Ronald sued to have Robert removed because he wasn’t operating the ranch as a business and was failing to generate any profits.

There is a restaurant on the property that was supposedly not making a profit, although some of the proceeds of the restaurant were being used to pay child support payments. And the wife of the brother living there was keeping the books for the place, although she had no bookkeeping experience and never even graduated high school. In that lawsuit, the judge said Robert, the brother running the place, had a fiduciary responsibility to run the place as a business, generating a profit because he was not the only brother in the trust. He was required to try to make a profit that would be shared with the other brother. The judge ordered that Robert, the brother living there was to be removed as trustee and replaced with a professional because he was not running the facility in the correct manner, as a business. Robert appealed, but lost the appeal.

www.metnews.com/articles/2017/kilborn101117.htm

I haven’t found the lawsuit from people living there yet but will keep looking. I am thinking that when the replacement trustee came in, he tried to generate a profit, as was required by law, and that he might have increased fees, angering the residents. That is just a guess as to why the residents were in a lawsuit with management. It all sounds like an awful mess, but I still don’t see why the missing couple would have been singled out and harmed. Off to search more.

*I found another lawsuit filed by Robert and his wife Becki, against the new management group operating the ranch after Robert was removed for not running the place as a business.  The couple are suing the new managing group for breach of contract.  This was filed in May, 2024.

Still looking for a lawsuit by residents.

Ok, this is a different home.  Breaking into the window to gain a visual makes sense now.  Especially if there is someone home who is refusing to answer their door.  I wonder how the police learned about the occupant of this house and whether or not they are related to the disappearance of the couple and their little dog.