huskergal
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Post by huskergal on Sept 30, 2024 18:43:10 GMT
I rarely eat fast food. I rarely eat meat and eat vegan options so I am guessing those are very processed. I mostly eat seafood for protein so that is not ultra processed. I do try to avoid processed snack foods.
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Post by ~summer~ on Sept 30, 2024 18:45:25 GMT
I think of ultra processed as food that our great grandparents would not have eaten.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 30, 2024 18:52:12 GMT
while I do see the benefits of eating that way it simply isn’t practical for me at this stage in my life not least because the people I live with and shop/cook for would rebel I live with a rebel too. He just shops for and serves himself if he doesn't like what I'm offering. LOL!
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Post by cadoodlebug on Sept 30, 2024 18:57:53 GMT
No I was thinking of packet ‘plastic’ ham 😊 Gotcha!
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Post by Merge on Sept 30, 2024 19:04:24 GMT
We rarely eat ultra-processed food at home, definitely not for meals and only as a treat for snacks. Processed in terms of ready made pasta or bread? Yes, but not in large amounts. I buy or bake sweets only once in a while.
Doctors and health advocates tend to assume that heavy people spend their lives scarfing down McDonald's and Little Debbie snack cakes. In my experience, that is not at all the case. I first started learning about eating whole, unprocessed foods (rather than the highly processed "non-fat" versions that were still in fashion at the time) when I was dx with PCOS back in 1998 - we were way ahead of the curve on that.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Sept 30, 2024 19:10:22 GMT
Doctors and health advocates tend to assume that heavy people spend their lives scarfing down McDonald's and Little Debbie snack cakes. It seems to be there's also a segment of the self-righteous public that truly believes these things too. I first started learning about eating whole, unprocessed foods (rather than the highly processed "non-fat" versions that were still in fashion at the time) when I was dx with PCOS back in 1998 - we were way ahead of the curve on that. I was diagnosed with PCOS in 2010 and I began on this journey too. I am most likely never going to be "thin" and that has never been my focus. But eating well and controlling my medical conditions definitely is.
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pantsonfire
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Post by pantsonfire on Sept 30, 2024 19:11:36 GMT
2 times a month.
Dd and ds get In and Out (ds can have 2 fries) and dh and I get Chipotle and Domino's Pizza.
Little more on the healthier side of fast food.
UPF? Never.
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Post by Lexica on Sept 30, 2024 21:44:14 GMT
Actually not very often. My parents were big on healthy home grown vegetables and Dad loved to cook. Then when I got married, I tried to be the perfect little wife by baking bread and cooking nightly. My ex used to brag about it and I realized years later that it was one of the few compliments that he gave.
When my son was born, I continued to cook for him. And he loved helping me in the kitchen. Then when he was diagnosed with cancer, I went into hyperdrive with making sure everything that he ate was good for him. He would be best.would come home from his Dad’s house with stomach aches and I would ask what he ate that day. Let’s just say it wasn’t good.
I went off the rails when I was engaged to my fiancé. He loved eating out every night. And I got into the bad habit of drinking Diet Coke at restaurants. I would go out with coworkers for lunch and that wasn’t always he best of places. I turned to cokes because the water in California tastes horrible and I didn’t think it would be good to bring in my own water. At home, I used a Brita so it tasted better, but it was still not great. I had a water service for a while and that was nice.
Now, I eat fairly well, no sodas, fries, energy drinks, donuts, pastries, cookies, etc. But I do love my chocolate, although I try to eat it responsibly. I make a lot of homemade soups, chicken breasts with vegetables, and homemade egg sandwiches for breakfast. I do think the Canadian bacon in them is not a good choice. Better than regular bacon, but neither would be the best choice.
I looked up some lists of what an ultra processed food actually is and chicken nuggets, like those little things I bought at Costco need to fall out of my diet. I knew the type that they sell for kids at the fast food places were bad, but it didn’t transfer over to realizing the Costco little bitty chunks were bad too. And I guess I am surprised that my fake burger meat is not good for me. I thought it was a better choice than beef, which I haven’t eaten in years, but it was right there on the list. No more Impossible burgers. Or at least very few.
Some things are obvious but some are surprising. But, when you know better, you do better!
Oh, and the only fast food I ever eat is Chipotle and I thought I might have to stop getting it too, but Chipotle says they don’t use any ultra processed foods in their restaurants. Yea!
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Post by nicolep on Sept 30, 2024 21:54:31 GMT
More often than I should.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Sept 30, 2024 22:15:27 GMT
I think most people wouldn’t think a lot of the things they eat are processed/ ultra processed when in fact they are, even things some might consider to be healthy options. It’s not just the total junk (pizza, chips, ice cream, candy, snacks, anything out of a box or a can) which is obvious.
We (meaning as a family, I can’t speak for DH who spends his days on the road) probably eat drive through food maybe once a week or less. DD eats lunch at school every day so no doubt some of every one of those meals is probably UPF. We do have storebought bread, cereals and crackers in the house most of the time, plus things like salad dressings, mayonnaise, noodles, frozen or occasionally canned beans or vegetables, storebought yogurt, ice cream, chips, popcorn or other snacks. Even the stuff I bake myself is made from processed wheat flour, processed sugars, storebought butter, etc.
I really think that unless you are making the item yourself from the whole food, raw ingredients without any other additives, then sorry but that’s also processed. My tin of homemade chocolate chip cookies probably has just as many additives from the commercial ingredients as a pan of Hamburger Helper does. That’s just reality.
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Post by melanell on Sept 30, 2024 23:51:29 GMT
I don't eat what I consider to be "fast food" at all. But my own definition of that is very narrow. I fully admit that. Normally, we eat out/order in pretty infrequently. So there are few instances in whichwe don't have a clear idea of what ingredients we are choosing to eat. That does not, however, mean we always choose to eat healthy things. We do eat processed things, and even some ultra-processed things. There have been times when we have worked harder than others on avoiding ultra processed foods. I fully admit that right now, we're doing a crappy job in comparison to how we've done in the past. I fully anticipate that as the mild weather winds down here, and we're no longer so busy with exterior property projects, (Which nicely coincides with harvest time.) we'll begin to do better again. We've been buying pizza a lot, for instance. So much so that even my teen asked the other night if we're going to start making our own again. So, yeah, we're at a low point with our food consumption in regards to healthy choices right now.
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Post by wordyphotogbabe on Oct 1, 2024 0:03:05 GMT
My husband eats very clean: very little meat, no caffeinated drinks, no fast food, no processed snacks. He mainly subsists on water/tea/cider, nuts & different nut mixes, dried fruits, protein bars & shakes, and some carbs or the sides for the main family meal. He has digestive issues that make a lot of foods painful for him to eat. Don't worry; I make up for what he doesn't eat. I usually eat fast food once a week for lunch (I work from home) when I'm out running errands or going to an appointment. Many of our dinners are from scratch but not all. We don't eat fast food as a family unless it's a last-minute emergency situation but we have UPF in our home for snacks. I already drink Diet Coke every day so I'm past the point of saving, anyways.
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Post by seaexplore on Oct 1, 2024 1:19:30 GMT
Pretty sure I eat a LOT of UPF.
Today Belvita for breakfast String cheese and strawberry nutri-grain for snack Cut up apple and Kirkland salted mixed nuts for lunch Cape cod potato chips for snack Dinner will be costco chicken tenders, mozzarella cheese, pesto (that I made) in a flour tortilla with carrots on the side.
Some days I have dannon yogurt for lunch and a sweet and salty bar.
We purchase bread. Lots of peanut butter and Nutella and jelly and cereal and milk are eaten here too.
It’s hard to eat totally clean when you’ve got 2 kids in sports and get home at 8pm 4 nights a week. I try to limit fast food to A&W burgers one time a month and little Cesar’s one time a month. It’s so expensive and I’m cheap.
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Post by epeanymous on Oct 1, 2024 1:38:06 GMT
I just don’t really like ultra-processed or fast food. That said, I end up eating it occasionally because I have kids and they want Chipotle.
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Post by padresfan619 on Oct 1, 2024 1:43:56 GMT
Every day. A can of cherry Coke Zero is my afternoon vice.
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Post by workingclassdog on Oct 1, 2024 2:14:17 GMT
All the time.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 1, 2024 2:20:02 GMT
Even though we eat pretty clean, processed foods make their way into our diet a couple times a month for DH & I and more (I'm sure) for our YAs.
I'll make my own peanut sauce but buy oyster sauce, shrimp paste, etc. Tomato sauces for pasta and salad dressings are in the house. Ketchup is about the most processed thing in the fridge (I think), but we also buy tortillas, tortilla chips and salsas.
Fast food is pretty rare and usually something like InO a couple times a year.
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Post by Texas Scrap on Oct 1, 2024 3:32:12 GMT
I put other…
No traditional fast food, but I do eat quick serve like chipotle, cava, piada (no tortillas/chips) and Jersey Mike’s but I don’t consider those in same category. Nothing is fried and I eat veggie options 90% of the time.
I will buy brown rice cakes, matzos, locally baked crackers. Most of my salad dressing is simple and clean but there are probably a few vinaigrettes that would qualify as processed. I make my own bread and meals are from scratch typically. If we eat dessert, I make it from scratch. That said, we do eat cheese and Skyr yogurt that is maybe not ultra processed, but definitely processed. I’m on vacation right now and working to cut out both of those, well dairy cheese, as an experiment.
I 100% think the processed food is a real issue for our health and if I could go back in time, I would have eaten very differently in my childhood and teenage years.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 1, 2024 9:47:35 GMT
I really think that unless you are making the item yourself from the whole food, raw ingredients without any other additives, then sorry but that’s also processed. My tin of homemade chocolate chip cookies probably has just as many additives from the commercial ingredients as a pan of Hamburger Helper does. That’s just reality. In the book Ultra-processed people, he talks about the 4 different categories of food. Category 1 is completely unprocessed. Like an orange. Processed foods come in two different categories, but even just steaming some broccoli is a category 2 level of processing. Category 3 is things like seed oil whereby there is a machine chemical process to making it but still it involves mostly single ingredient food product. Sugar and flour can be put into this category. Ultra-processed food, on the other hand, contains ingredients not generally found in a home kitchen. It's possible the chocolate chips you were using could be UPF, but likely the rest of the stuff in your cookie is not UPF unless you made cookies from a Betty Crocker bag of mix or the like. I hope this helps explain the difference that I got out of the book.
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Post by gar on Oct 1, 2024 10:28:02 GMT
I really think that unless you are making the item yourself from the whole food, raw ingredients without any other additives, then sorry but that’s also processed. My tin of homemade chocolate chip cookies probably has just as many additives from the commercial ingredients as a pan of Hamburger Helper does. That’s just reality. In the book Ultra-processed people, he talks about the 4 different categories of food. Category 1 is completely unprocessed. Like an orange. Processed foods come in two different categories, but even just steaming some broccoli is a category 2 level of processing. Category 3 is things like seed oil whereby there is a machine chemical process to making it but still it involves mostly single ingredient food product. Sugar and flour can be put into this category. Ultra-processed food, on the other hand, contains ingredients not generally found in a home kitchen. It's possible the chocolate chips you were using could be UPF, but likely the rest of the stuff in your cookie is not UPF unless you made cookies from a Betty Crocker bag of mix or the like. I hope this helps explain the difference that I got out of the book. Exactly. It is very hard to avoid any processing but there’s a world of difference between using sugar, flour etc and a cookie/potato snack that contains emulsifiers, whey powder, reconstituted potato extract, cheese powder, xanthan gum, malic acid, annatto bixin, ascorbic acid, nitrates and the like.
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Post by mikklynn on Oct 1, 2024 12:47:44 GMT
I eat fast food once per week or less. My treat is a Whopper jr, no cheese, plus a frozen Coke. I earned that damn Coke, because I go after caring for my parents, LOL.
I try to cook our meals at home for my grandson and myself. I do use some processed foods, like bread, buns, yogurt, sauces, and condiments.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 1, 2024 13:50:52 GMT
I really think that unless you are making the item yourself from the whole food, raw ingredients without any other additives, then sorry but that’s also processed. My tin of homemade chocolate chip cookies probably has just as many additives from the commercial ingredients as a pan of Hamburger Helper does. That’s just reality. In the book Ultra-processed people, he talks about the 4 different categories of food. Category 1 is completely unprocessed. Like an orange. Processed foods come in two different categories, but even just steaming some broccoli is a category 2 level of processing. Category 3 is things like seed oil whereby there is a machine chemical process to making it but still it involves mostly single ingredient food product. Sugar and flour can be put into this category. Ultra-processed food, on the other hand, contains ingredients not generally found in a home kitchen. It's possible the chocolate chips you were using could be UPF, but likely the rest of the stuff in your cookie is not UPF unless you made cookies from a Betty Crocker bag of mix or the like. I hope this helps explain the difference that I got out of the book. That does help explain the differences. I have a very part time cottage foods business and part of that entails making ingredient labels for the things I make. While my state doesn’t necessarily require listing all the sub ingredients on the labels, I generally include them so if that law ever changes I won’t have to redo everything. So instead of listing it like this: “flour, butter, sugar, brown sugar, eggs, semi sweet and milk chocolate chips, vanilla, salt, baking powder” which all sounds quite wholesome and pure, right? With the sub ingredients listed out it ends up looking more like this: “wheat flour (niacin, reduced iron, thiamin, mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), butter (milk, salt), sugar, brown sugar (sugar, molasses), semi sweet chocolate chips (sugar, chocolate, cocoa butter, milkfat, soy lethicin, natural flavors), milk chocolate chips (cane sugar, unsweetened chocolate, whole milk powder, cocoa butter, soy lethicin, vanilla extract), salt, baking powder (corn starch, sodium bicarbonate, anhydrous sodium aluminum sulfate, mono calcium sulfate), vanilla extract (vanilla bean extractives in water, alcohol)” which looks a whole lot like the ingredient label on a processed store bought cookie. Now just for fun I compared the above to what I found online as the ingredients in Betty Crocker Chocolate Chip Cookie Mix: Not really all that different, TBH, and that’s just for a basic chocolate chip cookie. Some of my recipes have a whole laundry list of ingredients and it’s super fun trying to fit all of that on a 2” square label! 🤪 I guess my point is that until a person really dives into what is actually in each and every ingredient (even for things that are homemade), most people don’t really even think about what is in their food. I know for myself I never gave it a second thought until I had to start creating all of these labels.
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Post by Susie_Homemaker on Oct 1, 2024 13:51:52 GMT
I take my definition of "processed food" from a book I read and he said a food is a "whole food" if it has one ingredient. I'll then work my way from there to kind of scale how processed a food is. For example, I'm going to eat a steak with a baked potato with butter and sour cream. I don't rate those as ultra processed foods since the butter and sour cream are made of mainly one ingredient. I'm combining whole foods together mainly, like a salad, or the potato with the butter and sour cream.
I do eat UPF but I try to not eat them often. 85-90% of my diet consists of whole foods. I can see how if (general) you're not conscious of what is UPF and paying attention to what things are made of how you could think you're eating less UPF than you actually are. I was like that, but have made a conscious decision to be much more mindful and to eat a much healthier diet. I do still love some good french fries and a burger, I'm just eating it way less often.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Oct 1, 2024 13:54:19 GMT
crazy4scraps I can see where it would be confusing. I mean, it's muddy for sure. Things are not really clear cut. We have to make our best judgments on some things. I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate you bringing up with is in the Betty Crocker cookie mix too. Because I called it out, yet, I have never used it or looked at its ingredients list. It really is not much different than homemade in this case.
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Post by MichyM on Oct 1, 2024 16:05:23 GMT
I an "other" girl.
I cannot recall the last time I ate at a fast food place. It's been a couple of years at least. I try really hard not to have ultra processed foods in the house, because they usually take the form of sweets which I (seemingly) have no control over. That said I do have things like cocktail sauce, BBQ sauce in the fridge if those count as ultra processed.
ETA: I do allow myself one diet Coke daily, so there's that!
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Post by FuzzyMutt on Oct 1, 2024 16:54:04 GMT
I am a very plain eater. Don't get me wrong, I love good food... but I'm the kind of person that loves brussels sprouts any way they can be made.. but especially steamed or in a salad raw. Same with almost every vegetable. Prefer raw, steamed, and not drowned in sauce or butter.
I like meat with minimal quality seasoning, and no sauces etc....
I don't get into chips or most other snacks (but can't have fruit roll ups, leather, gummies etc in the house because I will eat them all.) I love good breads, with good butter, I love bagels and I absolutely love a stack of french toast. But, all these things I would say aren't all that processed.
My downfall is that I absolutely love baked goods. Homemade, bakery, dessert at a restaurant.. LOVE!
As far as processed foods and fast foods... I don't really eat that stuff very often, although I tend to not get enough protein in my regular, not thinking about it diet, so I do use protein powder shakes every now and then, and I choke down a Barebells or RX bar every now and then. (I HATE protein bars!)
I eat fast food to be social every now and then, maybe 3-10x a year? I'm counting Buffalo Wild Wings wings in there too.
My guy and I are doing 75 Hard (day 54!) right now. We are following a whole 30 type of diet with very limited carbs (solidarity with him...) It hasn't bothered me a bit to give up all processed foods. But I do hate having to pay attention to how many radishes I eat lol
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 1, 2024 20:51:13 GMT
Eh - honestly I think this is just adding another layer of confusion. Based on most definitions I can find online, I eat ultra-processed every day. I usually have some kind of bread with breakfast (and rarely homemade). And more often than not if I'm not having leftovers for lunch, I have yogurt with granola and nuts. If we're not traveling, we usually eat out once a week. But we frequent a handful of local restaurants, and they're actually probably more likely to be healthier than what I make. I rarely make home-made pasta, but my local Italian restaurant does so apparently, I should be eating out more.
I don't do chips (unless we're having Mexican and I make guacamole) or premade sweets and generally don't snack. We try and eat a ton of veggies and not fry too often. My numbers looks fine, so I guess it's working for me, despite my ultra-processed lifestyle.
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Post by moodyblue on Oct 1, 2024 23:25:58 GMT
I just read an article today that listed all kinds of UPF - many of which people think of as “healthy” choices. The list included protein powders, yogurt with fruit in it, salad dressings, many oils, most beverages, most peanut butters, etc.
I think the definition is kind of murky and while I confess I eat too many things that would definitely be considered UPF, I also think it’s easy to go overboard with the idea that you have to avoid anything that’s already been processed more than a bit. For example, you can bread your own chicken nuggets, but chances are the breading ingredients could be considered UP. Is it a problem if you have chicken nuggets twice a day every day? Yeah, most likely. Once a month? Probably not.
I’m not going to set some kind of impossible standard of eating no UPF - because I know I couldn’t stick to it. I like chocolate. I like pizza, and I’m not making my own pizza dough and other ingredients.
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Post by gar on Oct 2, 2024 9:24:17 GMT
I just read an article today that listed all kinds of UPF - many of which people think of as “healthy” choices. The list included protein powders, yogurt with fruit in it, salad dressings, many oils, most beverages, most peanut butters, etc. I think the definition is kind of murky and while I confess I eat too many things that would definitely be considered UPF, I also think it’s easy to go overboard with the idea that you have to avoid anything that’s already been processed more than a bit. For example, you can bread your own chicken nuggets, but chances are the breading ingredients could be considered UP. Is it a problem if you have chicken nuggets twice a day every day? Yeah, most likely. Once a month? Probably not. I’m not going to set some kind of impossible standard of eating no UPF - because I know I couldn’t stick to it. I like chocolate. I like pizza, and I’m not making my own pizza dough and other ingredients. I agree. I do think it's invaluable to be aware, or to become more aware and maybe therefore make some better choices, but it's unrealistic for many of us to be completely UPF or even PF free. But knowing about it, understanding the implications and knowing how some simple swaps/alternatives could reduce your intake of all those chemicals and things that "are not food. They're industrially produced edible substance." as Dr Chris VT says, can't be a bad thing.
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