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Post by epeanymous on Oct 17, 2024 11:56:41 GMT
We've been instructed as faculty not to use the AI detectors (or, at least, not to accuse students based on the AI detectors, you can obviously do what you want) because they generate a lot of false positives. We're asked instead to design assignments that either make sensible use of the possibility people will use AI or are constructed in ways where AI won't help or can't be accessed. That really doesn't work with creative writing. No, that is absolutely true, it depends on your field. My students are going into a profession where frankly you are irresponsible if you *don’t* engage in plagiarism. It’s also a field where AI can be a reasonable starting (but not ending) point for research—I’ve played around with it and have had my students do the same. I actually am kind of mad because it’s clear to me that my faculty — the youngest members of which are forty — really would benefit from pedagogical training on how we can ourselves train students to use AI productively. For artistic writing, that obviously doesn’t make sense. |
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Post by epeanymous on Oct 17, 2024 11:59:16 GMT
We've been instructed as faculty not to use the AI detectors (or, at least, not to accuse students based on the AI detectors, you can obviously do what you want) because they generate a lot of false positives. We're asked instead to design assignments that either make sensible use of the possibility people will use AI or are constructed in ways where AI won't help or can't be accessed. So once again, teachers are being asked to solve a societal problem created by someone else. Nice. TBH it has cut my workload. We had a lot of student pressure to convert to more papers and take-home exams, which made for more time-consuming grading. Now I give my students ungraded formative assessments during the semester (posting model answers so they can self-evaluate) and am back to giving a closed-book secure exam at the end. It’s kind of win-win. |
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Post by melanell on Oct 17, 2024 12:07:01 GMT
So I was talking to my youngest about this yesterday and they told me that one of their teachers was talking about this at the beginning of the year and told them a story of someone he caught using AI to write a paper. How did he know? Well, we're in the US, and this kid somehow managed to hand in a paper written in British English without realizing it. (Or should I say "realising"?  ) Oops! |
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Post by huskergal on Oct 17, 2024 12:36:45 GMT
All the technology and we will go back to paper. I think it is better to write by hand. Studies show that students take notes by hand remember more than those that take them on a computer. You are also less distracted because you are only doing one thing. It might help students with their handwriting if they actually write instead of using a computer.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 17, 2024 16:47:55 GMT
All the technology and we will go back to paper. I think it is better to write by hand. Studies show that students take notes by hand remember more than those that take them on a computer. You are also less distracted because you are only doing one thing. It might help students with their handwriting if they actually write instead of using a computer. OMG, my college notes were horrendous and I have decent handwriting normally. I’d be furiously scribbling to keep up with the lectures and would have all kinds of stuff scribbled in the margins because I ran out of room on the pages. It was seriously bad. I would have to go back through and rewrite everything just so I’d be able to read it myself later and make sense of the mess. My DD is the same way. Her handwritten notes are awful which always surprises me because she’s an amazing artist. You would never guess by looking at her artwork that her handwriting is so abysmal. |
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Post by huskergal on Oct 17, 2024 17:06:25 GMT
All the technology and we will go back to paper. I think it is better to write by hand. Studies show that students take notes by hand remember more than those that take them on a computer. You are also less distracted because you are only doing one thing. It might help students with their handwriting if they actually write instead of using a computer. OMG, my college notes were horrendous and I have decent handwriting normally. I’d be furiously scribbling to keep up with the lectures and would have all kinds of stuff scribbled in the margins because I ran out of room on the pages. It was seriously bad. I would have to go back through and rewrite everything just so I’d be able to read it myself later and make sense of the mess. My DD is the same way. Her handwritten notes are awful which always surprises me because she’s an amazing artist. You would never guess by looking at her artwork that her handwriting is so abysmal. I used lots of shortcuts, etc. I did not have the best handwriting either. |
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Post by melanell on Oct 17, 2024 17:09:59 GMT
All the technology and we will go back to paper. I think it is better to write by hand. Studies show that students take notes by hand remember more than those that take them on a computer. You are also less distracted because you are only doing one thing. It might help students with their handwriting if they actually write instead of using a computer. OMG, my college notes were horrendous and I have decent handwriting normally. I’d be furiously scribbling to keep up with the lectures and would have all kinds of stuff scribbled in the margins because I ran out of room on the pages. It was seriously bad. I would have to go back through and rewrite everything just so I’d be able to read it myself later and make sense of the mess. My DD is the same way. Her handwritten notes are awful which always surprises me because she’s an amazing artist. You would never guess by looking at her artwork that her handwriting is so abysmal. I used to do that bolded part as well, but I always found that the act of re-writing everything actually helped me to retain the information. (Provided I could work out what I had originally written, of course! ) |
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 17, 2024 18:48:15 GMT
OMG, my college notes were horrendous and I have decent handwriting normally. I’d be furiously scribbling to keep up with the lectures and would have all kinds of stuff scribbled in the margins because I ran out of room on the pages. It was seriously bad. I would have to go back through and rewrite everything just so I’d be able to read it myself later and make sense of the mess. My DD is the same way. Her handwritten notes are awful which always surprises me because she’s an amazing artist. You would never guess by looking at her artwork that her handwriting is so abysmal. I used to do that bolded part as well, but I always found that the act of re-writing everything actually helped me to retain the information. (Provided I could work out what I had originally written, of course!  ) Yup, and then I would end up writing it all out a third time on index cards to make flash cards for study sessions.  But I did get straight A’s in art history all year which was quite the feat! |
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Post by melanell on Oct 17, 2024 21:36:53 GMT
I used to do that bolded part as well, but I always found that the act of re-writing everything actually helped me to retain the information. (Provided I could work out what I had originally written, of course! ) Yup, and then I would end up writing it all out a third time on index cards to make flash cards for study sessions.  But I did get straight A’s in art history all year which was quite the feat! To this day, if there's something complicated I'm trying to sort out, I break out index cards.  Congrats on killing it in art history that year, too! |
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But I did get straight A’s in art history all year which was quite the feat!
But I did get straight A’s in art history all year which was quite the feat!