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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 24, 2024 11:12:18 GMT
So on Saturday night, we were celebrating a friend's birthday at a winery. Food and drinks during dinner were supplied. Pre-dinner drinks we had to buy ourselves. DSO and a friend decided to have a whisky old fashioned. They weren't sure what whisky to have, so the barman suggested one that he said was popular. After the drinks were poured, and they had to pay, the barman said "That will be $90."
Ninety dollars.
For two drinks.
DSO and I were talking about it tonight. I was annoyed that the barman didn't tell them the price upfront. DSO said that no, he and his mate should have asked. My thoughts are that because the barman is the one who suggested that particular brand, he should have told them the price before pouring them the drinks.
What are your thoughts? Would you be annoyed if you orders two drinks that came to $90?
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Post by leannec on Oct 24, 2024 11:21:10 GMT
What are your thoughts? Would you be annoyed if you orders two drinks that came to $90? I would be very annoyed! Especially if the establishment serves similar drinks at more reasonable prices ... if there is such a thing! You definitely pay more in some places (like Las Vegas) because they are tourist traps but most people go there knowing that ... This bartender was not properly trained and that sucks!
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Post by compeateropeator on Oct 24, 2024 11:21:30 GMT
Absolutely would not typically pay 45.00 (about $30.00 US) for just a typical drink. If I was looking to try an expensive Whiskey like a Whistle Pig or a Pappy Van Winkle Bourbon I would expect it (and probably more) but not just for a basic drink.
BUT…If asked which Whiskey and I was looking for something top shelf, I would know to ask the price, especially if I was leaving it up to the bartender to pick what to use.
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Post by littlemama on Oct 24, 2024 11:31:19 GMT
The bartender should have indicated that it was expensive and also suggested a mid range and an inexpensive option. As a customer, I would never expect the bartender to suggest something so costly without a warning.
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Post by melanell on Oct 24, 2024 12:03:58 GMT
I would likely be annoyed with myself for not realizing that if I leave it up to the bartender to suggest a drink, that there's a good chance they'll suggest something top shelf. And that I should have either asked or put a qualifier on my request in the first place.
Yes, it would have been nice for the bartender to have offered the price ahead of time, but I don't think I would expect it.
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Post by allison1954 on Oct 24, 2024 12:10:37 GMT
I don’t think $30 ( US?) for a top shelf drink is too much. Can I get a drink for a lot less, of course. But asking for a rec will get you something other than basic.
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Post by lainey on Oct 24, 2024 12:26:04 GMT
That works out to around 55 euros, so yes, I'd be very annoyed, as that's a week's shopping for us! I think bars should be upfront about prices, was there a drinks menu?
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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 24, 2024 12:43:43 GMT
Yes there was, and it was quite extensive. I had to flip through multiple pages just to find the four ( ) mocktails on offer for us non-drinkers.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 24, 2024 12:48:35 GMT
I’d definitely be annoyed. I’ve been in a similar spot before when my friend and I were going to dinner with someone we didn’t know well and my friend asked for a suggestion of where we could go. The person we were going out with was local to the area and she (well, her husband who was driving) suggested a place that turned out to be an all you can eat Brazilian restaurant which my friend and I hadn’t ever experienced before. We should have asked to look at a menu before we decided to eat there so that part was on us.
When the bill came it was upwards of $50 per person. 😳 The couple we were with ended up not even having enough money to pay for their own meals and they didn’t have a credit card, so we had to spot them the extra $$. 😳🤪🙄 I would never choose somewhere like that for myself because I never eat enough to even make a $20-25 PP all you can eat meal worth the cost to me, and I would never suggest a place like that unless I knew the others were prepared to pay that or I was planning to pay for everyone in the group. I don’t know what would have happened if we wouldn’t have had the extra money to help them cover their bill.
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Post by gar on Oct 24, 2024 12:49:06 GMT
I guess it’s the barman’s job to upsell/maximise sales but if something he suggests is massively more than others it seems sneaky not to have been upfront. I’m not sure I would have thought to have checked the price to be honest.
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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 24, 2024 12:49:26 GMT
And more fluff..... I had to look up how to spell whisky / whiskey because I can never remember. Google told me it is whisky with no E, but some of you have spelt it whiskey with the E. So of course I had to google that:
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Post by compeateropeator on Oct 24, 2024 12:53:25 GMT
And more fluff..... I had to look up how to spell whisky / whiskey because I can never remember. Google told me it is whisky with no E, but some of you have spelt it whiskey with the E. So of course I had to google that: I had it both ways in one post and wasn’t sure which way was ‘correct’. Glad to know I would have been right no matter which way I went with the spelling. 😄
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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 24, 2024 12:55:22 GMT
When the bill came it was upwards of $50 per person. 😳 .... I would never choose somewhere like that for myself because I never eat enough to even make a $20-25 PP all you can eat meal worth the cost to me See here's the thing..... I would think nothing of spending $50 per person on a meal (even when I convert that to $AUD). We regularly spend that plus more when we eat out. But as a non drinker, I find the cost of alcohol ridiculous. (I'm nothing if not inconsistent haha!)
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Post by Merge on Oct 24, 2024 13:17:53 GMT
When the bill came it was upwards of $50 per person. 😳 .... I would never choose somewhere like that for myself because I never eat enough to even make a $20-25 PP all you can eat meal worth the cost to me See here's the thing..... I would think nothing of spending $50 per person on a meal (even when I convert that to $AUD). We regularly spend that plus more when we eat out. But as a non drinker, I find the cost of alcohol ridiculous. (I'm nothing if not inconsistent haha!) Yeah I'm struggling to think where you can get a sit-down meal with drinks for much less than $50/pp these days, other than like Applebees or something. But I suppose every area is different. We don't eat out often these days in part because of the cost. With regard to the OP, I would have been annoyed, too. Chalk it up to a life lesson, I guess.
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Post by gar on Oct 24, 2024 13:26:07 GMT
When the bill came it was upwards of $50 per person. 😳 .... I would never choose somewhere like that for myself because I never eat enough to even make a $20-25 PP all you can eat meal worth the cost to me See here's the thing..... I would think nothing of spending $50 per person on a meal (even when I convert that to $AUD). We regularly spend that plus more when we eat out. But as a non drinker, I find the cost of alcohol ridiculous. (I'm nothing if not inconsistent haha!) $50/£39 for a meal doesn't strike me as high but paying that for a drink/cocktail is high for me.
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Post by peppermintpatty on Oct 24, 2024 13:28:39 GMT
That is completely insane! I would have questioned them on that price. At the most that drink should be $20. When we were in New Orleans a couple weeks ago, I never saw any cocktail more than $12. Alcohol is so cheap down there.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 24, 2024 13:29:52 GMT
When the bill came it was upwards of $50 per person. 😳 .... I would never choose somewhere like that for myself because I never eat enough to even make a $20-25 PP all you can eat meal worth the cost to me See here's the thing..... I would think nothing of spending $50 per person on a meal (even when I convert that to $AUD). We regularly spend that plus more when we eat out. But as a non drinker, I find the cost of alcohol ridiculous. (I'm nothing if not inconsistent haha!) We’ve spent that too on a special night out at a higher end place now, but then we go in knowing it’s going to cost that. This was probably about 20 years ago so a dollar went further back then. My friend and I were traveling and on a somewhat limited budget, we were meeting up with this woman that she only knew casually from a scrapbooking MLM group that was a couple levels down in her downline, and we just wanted to go somewhere a little nicer than McDonald’s. Her DH came along because this lady didn’t like driving downtown where the convention was being held, and he was leery of her going off alone to meet “strangers from the internet” LOL. When we asked them for suggestions we were thinking Applebees or Chili’s fare which was more like $15-20 PP max at the time (we don’t drink either), so $50 PP was way beyond what we were expecting to spend on a single meal. And then we had to cough up extra to cover part of their bill on top of that! I mean, we were eating granola bars and peanut butter sandwiches in our hotel room to keep our costs down, so…yeah. We really weren’t prepared for that.
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Post by anniebeth24 on Oct 24, 2024 13:30:06 GMT
DH has become a fan of old fashioneds. Recently, he requested a certain bourbon, and the bartender replied, "That one is $20 a pour." The heads up was certainly appreciated, but I wouldn't expect every bartender to say that.
A few months ago, we were traveling in Kentucky and overheard guys asking the price of Pappy's, and it was $100. Couldn't believe it when they both went ahead and ordered it. Crazy.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 24, 2024 13:40:00 GMT
See here's the thing..... I would think nothing of spending $50 per person on a meal (even when I convert that to $AUD). We regularly spend that plus more when we eat out. But as a non drinker, I find the cost of alcohol ridiculous. (I'm nothing if not inconsistent haha!) Yeah I'm struggling to think where you can get a sit-down meal with drinks for much less than $50/pp these days, other than like Applebees or something. But I suppose every area is different. We don't eat out often these days in part because of the cost. With regard to the OP, I would have been annoyed, too. Chalk it up to a life lesson, I guess. I should have added, this was probably 20 years ago when $50 bought more. But even these days we tend to spend $75 or less when DH, DD and I all go out to dinner. But DH and I don’t drink which does help to keep the cost down quite a bit. FWIW, we recently were treated to an expensive dinner out for a birthday. All of us ordered the special (prime rib) and DH noted, “For what two of these dinners cost, I could have bought a whole prime rib and cooked it myself, fed all six of us and had leftovers the next day.”
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Post by Merge on Oct 24, 2024 15:25:36 GMT
Yeah I'm struggling to think where you can get a sit-down meal with drinks for much less than $50/pp these days, other than like Applebees or something. But I suppose every area is different. We don't eat out often these days in part because of the cost. With regard to the OP, I would have been annoyed, too. Chalk it up to a life lesson, I guess. I should have added, this was probably 20 years ago when $50 bought more. But even these days we tend to spend $75 or less when DH, DD and I all go out to dinner. But DH and I don’t drink which does help to keep the cost down quite a bit. FWIW, we recently were treated to an expensive dinner out for a birthday. All of us ordered the special (prime rib) and DH noted, “For what two of these dinners cost, I could have bought a whole prime rib and cooked it myself, fed all six of us and had leftovers the next day.” Yeah, we find ourselves thinking that a lot these days. Part of reaching the “get off my lawn” stage of life, I guess. As such, we rarely go out for things we could make better and cheaper at home - steaks, salads, burgers, wings, most Italian food other than pizza, etc. If I’m going to spend what it costs to eat out these days, it had better be some artisanal or ethnic food that is way beyond my time and skill. Same with bevs most of the time, TBH. I loathe buying a bottle of wine in a restaurant for $80 and finding it online for $20. Special occasions with friends or family only. But I’m not surprised at the cost. I’ve just learned by now to expect it.
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Post by bbkeef on Oct 24, 2024 15:27:43 GMT
I don’t think $30 ( US?) for a top shelf drink is too much. Where do you live? The fancy place in my town charges $12 for a fancy smoked old fashioned under a cloche type drink. I am in a 3rd tier suburb of the Twin Cities. I suppose a fancy place in Minneapolis could be $30. I would just go buy myself an entire bottle of top shelf stuff and make many drinks at home. That bartender should have given them a heads up for sure!
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Post by padresfan619 on Oct 24, 2024 15:32:26 GMT
I once spent $50 on two glasses of wine at the movies and I was absolutely horrified, but I paid. It was Kim Crawford Sauvignon Blanc so not exactly top shelf wine. I would be mad at myself for not checking the price of the liquor and chalk it up to a lesson learned.
Do you tip bartenders in Australia?
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Post by stormsts on Oct 24, 2024 15:38:37 GMT
I go to Las Vegas a lot. I was there in September for a meeting. My business partner and I went to the pool bar when we arrived and each ordered a mojito. There were no prices on the drink menu. But as much as I go to Vegas I was expecting $30-$35 per drink. I watched the bartender make the drink. He did not use top shelf liquor. I was shocked when our bill was $95. This was not a place I have stayed at recently and won't be staying at again.
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Post by ~summer~ on Oct 24, 2024 15:53:53 GMT
I’m in SF and nice cocktails are normally $16-20. Yes, I would be annoyed at that price. I often get a cocktail that the bartender recommends, without asking the price.
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Post by mom on Oct 24, 2024 15:57:14 GMT
Hiding as I type this out --- but $90 for two drinks would not be that unheard of for my DH. If anything, it would be a touch above 'above average' for a goodish whiskey for DH so not the cheapest he'd drink but not the most expensive either but he has an extensive collection of whiskeys, scotch and vodkas so he knows what he wants when he is at the bar.
As to whether or not the bartender should have told him how much it was, that kinda depends on the restaurant. More upscale and pricey places normally do not tell how much it is unless you ask. But mid range to lower end places will offer the information up front.
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Post by gillyp on Oct 24, 2024 16:08:43 GMT
I would be annoyed at myself and possibly would have made a comment to the bartender.
I was at a works Christmas do in a nice but not too up market hotel. A colleague and I each had a liqueur, the cost of each was the price of a bottle of the stuff at my local supermarket. I learnt to ask the price after that.
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Post by allison1954 on Oct 24, 2024 17:10:57 GMT
I don’t think $30 ( US?) for a top shelf drink is too much. Where do you live? The fancy place in my town charges $12 for a fancy smoked old fashioned under a cloche type drink. I am in a 3rd tier suburb of the Twin Cities. I suppose a fancy place in Minneapolis could be $30. I would just go buy myself an entire bottle of top shelf stuff and make many drinks at home. That bartender should have given them a heads up for sure! South Florida from Chicago
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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 24, 2024 21:35:50 GMT
When we were in New Orleans a couple weeks ago, I never saw any cocktail more than $12. Alcohol is so cheap down there. That's probably similar to what we would pay for a cocktail here, when I convert $USD to $AUD. We went away with friends earlier this year, to a beach location, and we went for drinks at the local gin house. I was going to get a mocktail, but it was exactly the same price as the same cocktail! How the hell do they justify charging someone the same price as the alcoholic version, when there is no alcohol in the drink, just juice/soda?! When we asked them for suggestions we were thinking Applebees or Chili’s fare which was more like $15-20 PP max at the time (we don’t drink either), so $50 PP was way beyond what we were expecting to spend on a single meal. We really weren’t prepared for that. Yeah I get that. I would have been a shock if you were not expecting it. We went out to a fancy restaurant for a friend's 60th last year, and we knew it was going to be expensive. What we didn't know was that they were going to charge me $30 for water then add a $90 "weekend surcharge" onto the bill. It ended up costing us about $340 for the two of us. Do you tip bartenders in Australia? Definitely not! We don't have a tipping culture here, and it's not expected. The only time I "tip" (and it's in quotation marks because it's not really a tip) is if we round up the bill at a restaurant. And it would only be a couple of bucks eg. round up from $87 to $90.
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Post by getting started on Oct 24, 2024 22:02:44 GMT
I would be annoyed that the bartender suggested a premium priced drink without saying that it was that tier of alcohol. We learned that lesson when we went out for a fancy dinner for a friend's retirement. The waiter suggested a glass of a specific wine to us when we had our dinner menus out and were giving our food orders. The drink suggestion was sort of a pairing suggestion. However the rest of us had $15 drinks we had already selected but the one person who took the suggestion and ordered that wine was charged $50 for the glass of wine. Lesson learned that if you don't have the alcohol menu in front of you, you've gotta ask what it's going to cost. It's like being suggestive sold 'fries with the burger' but at a steep price!
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Post by justkat on Oct 24, 2024 22:38:50 GMT
No. I know whisky in general is higher priced. Also if price was a concern I would've asked before asking for the pour. I agree with your SO in this case.
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