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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 25, 2024 0:12:05 GMT
DSO cleaned out the pantry the other day and there are seven packs of cake mix, pudding mix, brownie mix, and cinnamon scroll mix, all with Best Before dates ranging from April 2022 to August 2023. (And by 'pudding' I mean the AU/UK/NZ version of pudding, which is like a cake with chocolate/caramel/toffee sauce, eaten hot.) They are all dry mixes, the main ingredients are flour and sugar, with emulsifiers, milk powder, flavours etc.
I have used packet mixes past their best before date previously. But some of these are 2.5 years past. There's nothing in there that would prevent the cakes/brownies/puddings from baking properly, is there. Maybe the rising agent?
I'm going to try the oldest pudding mix tonight, and if that comes out okay, I will use the others.
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Post by katiekaty on Oct 25, 2024 0:22:28 GMT
Definitely give it a go! We just made two boxes of brownies that expired 07/2023 and they were really good-as usual. My son that cooks swears that he checked the date after I asked about it and said it should be ok since it was 07/2024. I told him to get glasses, but hid some brownies to cheat with later!
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Post by Zee on Oct 25, 2024 1:20:55 GMT
Try it and report back. I think I mentioned here that since I started cooking and baking again, I've been making my way through a pantry full of dry and canned goods that were all outdated 🤭
We are still alive and everything has turned out just fine, no baking issues.
I thought I might have gone too far with the Best Buy 4/2021 Bisquick I used 2 days ago but it was fine 🤣🤣 maybe it helps that it was in the freezer, to keep it from getting pantry moths.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 25, 2024 1:28:26 GMT
Yes, the issue is the leavening agent. When I use an “expired” cake mix, I add a little baking powder to the mix. Usually it’s not really needed, and the cake comes out all extra-light and billowy. They’re still nice that way, just different. Anyway, that’s what I would recommend for a cake mix that’s more than a year expired.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 25, 2024 1:30:12 GMT
If we don't hear from you we'll know the answer and I will toss the brownie mix sitting in my pantry that expired Nov 21.
I have no idea HOW we missed it and haven't been able to bring myself to toss it or buy a new box from Costco. Or feed it to my unsuspecting family.
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Post by Zee on Oct 25, 2024 1:39:01 GMT
If we don't hear from you we'll know the answer and I will toss the brownie mix sitting in my pantry that expired Nov 21. I have no idea HOW we missed it and haven't been able to bring myself to toss it or buy a new box from Costco. Or feed it to my unsuspecting family. I'm a little sad that pretty much all my expired items are used up. DH and I were having fun playing "guess the best by". Hints allowed, such as "this came from HyVee" or "probably moved with us twice". Spices in particular have been across the country. 🤭
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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 25, 2024 2:15:39 GMT
Thanks for the tip about adding baking powder lucyg . I will definitely do that. The reason I am worried about them not turning out great, is that all of the mixes require eggs to be added. Eggs have been in very short supply here lately, due to avian flu, and all of the grocery stores are often sold out. I managed to buy a 12 pack the other day, and I don't want to waste eggs on a dud cake! My dad had chooks until recently, so I had a good supply of fresh eggs, but a bloody fox got them all.
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Post by don on Oct 25, 2024 2:25:59 GMT
I'm a bit past my best buy date, I am getting a little snarky though.
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Post by FurryP on Oct 25, 2024 4:57:40 GMT
We made brownies the other day that were about 4 months past the expiration date. They tasted yucky to me, but my sister said they were ok. Nobody expired.
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Post by FrozenPea on Oct 25, 2024 6:01:03 GMT
I say go for it. As for the egg you can substitute with apples sauce or banana or buttermilk. I haven't tried only googled.
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Post by gar on Oct 25, 2024 7:34:03 GMT
I was thinking what lucyg said...that they might not rise well. Other than that - let us know!
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Post by gillyp on Oct 25, 2024 8:31:10 GMT
I say go for it. As for the egg you can substitute with apples sauce or banana or buttermilk. I haven't tried only googled. I’ve used apple sauce and it works ok.
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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 25, 2024 9:41:17 GMT
So I made the Sticky Date Pudding for dessert tonight, and it turned out fine. I put a teaspoon of baking powder in with the dry mix, just to be safe.
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Post by anaterra on Oct 25, 2024 9:42:18 GMT
I made a cake for a grandkids weekend that was about a yr expired... i didn't know to add more baking powder....
It wasnt unedible but it wasnt great.... super crumbly and kinda chalky.... it was not moist anf fluffy...
Cake mixes here are pretty cheap... id buy new ones instead of wasting valuable eggs on them... but i dont know the prices in Australia
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Post by GiantsFan on Oct 25, 2024 14:31:23 GMT
You can also use ground flaxseed in substitute of eggs. I haven't tried it in a cake, but it worked in cookies.
Google "flaxseed substitute for eggs in baking".
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 26, 2024 1:48:39 GMT
I agree with lucyg that the leavening is the biggest issue at play. I would for sure bake up the ones that are a year past, I’ve done that before without issue even without adding extra baking powder but I think it’s a great idea to add a little just because why not. The other ones that are older I’d base that on how much I really want that thing vs. how much work it would be to buy a new mix. I go through streaks where I’ll buy some cake mixes thinking I’m going to make them because I want cake. But in reality, I’m the only one who really likes cake here so I don’t make it. And then it sits until it’s 2-3 years out of date and I end up tossing them in the trash. Note to self: when you want some cake, just buy a pack of storebought cupcakes or one of those big single pieces of frosted cake from the store and it it yourself, since you’re the only one who really wants cake. (And LOL, I have five big Costco vanilla cupcakes individually wrapped in my freezer right now. I really need to thaw one out and eat it!)
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Post by littlemama on Oct 26, 2024 2:28:45 GMT
There is a specific smell/taste to cake and brownie mixes when they have gone bad. If it smells normal, try it!
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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 26, 2024 3:03:05 GMT
Cake mixes here are pretty cheap... id buy new ones instead of wasting valuable eggs on them... but i dont know the prices in Australia They are about $3.80 each, so seven of them comes to just over $26. It's certainly not going to break the bank if I toss them. I would for sure bake up the ones that are a year past, I’ve done that before without issue even without adding extra baking powder but I think it’s a great idea to add a little just because why not. Yeah, I think I'll toss the ones from 2022, and keep the ones from 2023.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 26, 2024 3:59:24 GMT
If we don't hear from you we'll know the answer and I will toss the brownie mix sitting in my pantry that expired Nov 21. I have no idea HOW we missed it and haven't been able to bring myself to toss it or buy a new box from Costco. Or feed it to my unsuspecting family. OK, even I would toss out that brownie mix, and I’ll eat almost anything. There’s probably a three-years-expired box of Costco brownie mix somewhere in my house, too, but who knows where?
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 26, 2024 5:31:22 GMT
Cake mixes here are pretty cheap... id buy new ones instead of wasting valuable eggs on them... but i dont know the prices in Australia They are about $3.80 each, so seven of them comes to just over $26. It's certainly not going to break the bank if I toss them. I would for sure bake up the ones that are a year past, I’ve done that before without issue even without adding extra baking powder but I think it’s a great idea to add a little just because why not. Yeah, I think I'll toss the ones from 2022, and keep the ones from 2023. On a related note, I just looked on Target’s website (where I buy most of my non-Costco food items) and a standard cake mix costs about $1.89-$1.99 not on sale, and sometimes they go on sale for $1.29-$1.59 or so which is usually when I buy them. I think if they cost what yours do, I’d be less likely to toss them, or even buy them in the first place unless I was specifically going to use it immediately. Also, out of curiosity, have your cake mixes been the victim of shrinkflation where you are AussieMeg? Years ago ours were routinely about 18.25 ounces. Then they shrunk to 15.25 ounces several years ago, then to 13.25 which is what most of the ones are that I see in stores now. And yet, they still claim to yield a two layer 8”-9” cake or 24 cupcakes, which is a joke. A couple months ago I happened to be in a different grocery store that I don’t frequent too often and I saw some of the Dolly Parton cake mixes on the shelf there. I was surprised that those ones are back to the bigger 15.25 ounce size. They were also considerably more expensive than the now smaller regular mixes. They’re closer to $3-$4 each depending on the store.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 26, 2024 16:38:28 GMT
OK, even I would toss out that brownie mix, and I’ll eat almost anything. Fine, the mix is in the trash and box in the recycling. Now I'm waiting for one of my peeps to see the box and ask where the brownies are. Gone are the days when a Costco box of Ghiardelli brownies would be made up in a couple months.
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Post by Zee on Oct 26, 2024 17:36:31 GMT
OK, even I would toss out that brownie mix, and I’ll eat almost anything. Fine, the mix is in the trash and box in the recycling. Now I'm waiting for one of my peeps to see the box and ask where the brownies are. Gone are the days when a Costco box of Ghiardelli brownies would be made up in a couple months. I DEFINITELY would have made those brownies, for science.
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Post by gina on Oct 26, 2024 20:05:17 GMT
I just made chili for dinner and baked some gf cornbread from TJs with an 8/2023 expiration. As long as I take the plastic bag out and there's nothing crawling in it, its fine. Eating a muffin now... they taste perfect.
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Post by AussieMeg on Oct 26, 2024 21:48:09 GMT
Also, out of curiosity, have your cake mixes been the victim of shrinkflation where you are AussieMeg ? Years ago ours were routinely about 18.25 ounces. Then they shrunk to 15.25 ounces several years ago, then to 13.25 which is what most of the ones are that I see in stores now. And yet, they still claim to yield a two layer 8”-9” cake or 24 cupcakes, which is a joke. . I have noticed shrinkflation with lots of things, but I haven't actually noticed it with cake mixes. Not to say it hasn't happened, I just haven't noticed it. I agree with you, how ridiculous to claim that a 5oz difference in the size of the mix will yield a cake the same size. (I have no idea how much 5oz is haha, but it's nearly a 30% reduction.)
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Post by mamallama on Oct 27, 2024 1:23:44 GMT
I used to run a food pantry in the US and we worked with the state run food bank. For nonperishable food they said we could accept donations up to 5 years old as long as the cans weren’t bulging.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 27, 2024 1:45:07 GMT
Also, out of curiosity, have your cake mixes been the victim of shrinkflation where you are AussieMeg ? Years ago ours were routinely about 18.25 ounces. Then they shrunk to 15.25 ounces several years ago, then to 13.25 which is what most of the ones are that I see in stores now. And yet, they still claim to yield a two layer 8”-9” cake or 24 cupcakes, which is a joke. . I have noticed shrinkflation with lots of things, but I haven't actually noticed it with cake mixes. Not to say it hasn't happened, I just haven't noticed it. I agree with you, how ridiculous to claim that a 5oz difference in the size of the mix will yield a cake the same size. (I have no idea how much 5oz is haha, but it's nearly a 30% reduction.) FTR, five ounces equals roughly 142 grams, if that helps! It is so crazy. I wanted to make a layer cake for someone a couple years back and thought maybe in 8” pans it would be okay. Mixed it up, weighed out the batter in the two pans so they would be even and baked them up. Yeah, NO. Those layers were so thin and sad. I had hoped they would be thick enough to torte so I could put filling in between, but they were literally only about an inch or inch and a half at most thick. I think I ended up going back to the store to buy TWO cake mixes, mixed them both up together and made the cake three decent layers tall and just baked up the rest of the excess batter into cupcakes. What a hassle though. I also like tall cupcakes (liners filled 3/4 full) so one of the current mixes will only yield 14-15 or so at most.
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Post by bc2ca on Oct 27, 2024 17:22:00 GMT
I DEFINITELY would have made those brownies, for science. I guess, but someone would have had to taste it. And what if they died? You know it would come back to me! And then they'd search my computer and find out that it was a reckless, premeditated act!!! Just not a risk I was willing to take. This time. In my search for expired products, I also found chocolate chips that expired a year ago and did use those to make a chocolate chip peanut butter pumpkin bread yesterday. It was awful. So awful that less than a quarter slice has been eaten so far. Tomorrow is garbage day and I have a feeling this brick is going out. But the chocolate chips were fine and had nothing to do with the thick, heavy texture of the bread.
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Post by Zee on Oct 28, 2024 0:02:27 GMT
I DEFINITELY would have made those brownies, for science. I guess, but someone would have had to taste it. And what if they died? You know it would come back to me! And then they'd search my computer and find out that it was a reckless, premeditated act!!! Just not a risk I was willing to take. This time. In my search for expired products, I also found chocolate chips that expired a year ago and did use those to make a chocolate chip peanut butter pumpkin bread yesterday. It was awful. So awful that less than a quarter slice has been eaten so far. Tomorrow is garbage day and I have a feeling this brick is going out. But the chocolate chips were fine and had nothing to do with the thick, heavy texture of the bread. 🤣🤣
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Post by anniebeth24 on Oct 28, 2024 1:11:29 GMT
I learned tonight that opened baking mixes definitely have an expiration. Made a chicken "pot pie" with Bisquick on top, and it tasted horrible and metallic. Checked the date, and it expired about 6 months ago. I'm not sure when I had opened it. Lesson learned!
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Post by Zee on Oct 28, 2024 1:46:17 GMT
I learned tonight that opened baking mixes definitely have an expiration. Made a chicken "pot pie" with Bisquick on top, and it tasted horrible and metallic. Checked the date, and it expired about 6 months ago. I'm not sure when I had opened it. Lesson learned! That's what I made with the 2021 Bisquick, last week! I guess it stays good if it's in the bottom of the freezer. 😁 Well, mine was still sealed, too. It was a plastic pouch with only enough mix for 6 biscuits.
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