pilcas
Pearl Clutcher
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Post by pilcas on Oct 27, 2024 3:32:51 GMT
If you all truly believe Harris would be better, then you have your heads in the sand. She is a do nothing and has no real experience. She is only on the ballot because they booted Biden out and no one else would have been allowed to use the campaign funds that had already been raised. She is a big joke. Have you listened to TFG lately? Your comment is a joke or the result a a very deluded person. |
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Post by jackietex on Oct 27, 2024 4:14:32 GMT
I cancelled my subscription, too.
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Post by katlady on Oct 27, 2024 7:10:52 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 27, 2024 12:14:50 GMT
www.nytimes.com/2024/10/27/opinion/washington-post-la-times-endorsements.html
I can think of some compelling reasons that leading independent newspapers should not be in the business of endorsing candidates for president.
Unfortunately, the acts of self-sabotage by The Washington Post and The Los Angeles Times do not reflect any of them. And so one more bulwark against autocracy erodes.
The owners of both papers took as long as possible to reveal what they had already concluded: For the first time in years — since 2004 for The Los Angeles Times and 1988 for The Post — each would refrain from endorsing a presidential candidate. This inspired Donald Trump’s campaign to whoop that even Vice President Kamala Harris’s “fellow Californians know she’s not up for the job.” The Times’s editorial editor, Mariel Garza, resigned and said the decision made the organization look “craven and hypocritical.” Others followed.
I’m not worried that Post and Los Angeles Times readers will have trouble deciding how to vote. I’m worried they’ll have trouble deciding whom to trust.
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 27, 2024 12:34:38 GMT
Another really good point. If billionaires don’t have the courage to stand up to Trump, what about the rest of us? www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/26/washington-post-endorsement-trump-press-freedom/I understand there is a lot of reporting about how The Post came not to endorse. But from the outside, it looks to me as though The Post caved in the face of Mr. Trump’s threats. That’s frightening, and it raises a question for ordinary people like me. If Jeff Bezos, one of the richest people on the planet, and the newspaper he owns and has done so much to support don’t have the courage to call Mr. Trump out, or even to say that his opponent is a superior candidate, what are the rest of us supposed to do? |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 28, 2024 0:13:54 GMT
The is why the cowardice and failure of the Washington Post and LA Times to endorse matters. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/27/washington-post-presidential-endorsements/
It’s not too late for The Post to express its editorial view of the priorities, relative values and principles at stake in this highly consequential election. Will it do so? An “independent” news organization, which Lewis extolled, does not mean silent. As misinformation, confusion, dissonance, anxiety and anger spread through America, The Washington Post must be a beacon. The way democracy dies in darkness is if journalism is left to die in cowardice. |
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Post by hopemax on Oct 28, 2024 21:06:08 GMT
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Post by MichyM on Oct 28, 2024 21:25:50 GMT
It was inevitable. I do wonder how this will affect the WaPo workforce, and feel badly for the negative outcome as a result. I was not a big Amazon shopper in the first place (other than when they would give me a free week or month of prime), but I wrote them off completely on Friday. Done, done, and done. |
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Post by katlady on Oct 28, 2024 23:36:53 GMT
How much is a WaPo subscription? Bezo’s Blue Orion company has 2-3 multi-billion dollar contracts with the government. I hate to say it, but 200,000 subscribers might be small change compared to those contracts. I feel bad if employees are the ones who will be hurt the most by this. And they say Trump is not a fascist?!
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Post by gorgeouskid on Oct 29, 2024 2:18:22 GMT
My friend cancelled her WaPo subscription with this note: “I canceled my WaPo subscription because of Jeff Bezos's decision to stop endorsing presidential candidates. Thank you, Mr. Bezos, for contributing to the darkness in which Democracy dies. You are a coward at a time when the nation needs people -- including journalists and news agency owners -- of courage.”
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Post by librarylady on Oct 29, 2024 3:41:55 GMT
200 thousand cancelled their subscription. That has to be a big financial blow.
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Post by katlady on Oct 29, 2024 4:01:25 GMT
200 thousand cancelled their subscription. That has to be a big financial blow. Bezos doesn't care. The WaPo lost about $70 million last year. Their readership has been declining since 2020. I think, just my opinion, he owns WaPo just to say he owns a newspaper, and it helps offset his gains from his other companies. ETA - What will probably hurt the Post more is if ad revenues start to fall off. And if readership falls off, advertisers will be more reluctant to place ads in the Post. |
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Post by aj2hall on Oct 29, 2024 22:10:39 GMT
Bezos' letter. I might be inclined to believe him if he made this decision a year ago. Or, if the Post had not already endorsed House and Senate candidates. The editors even wrote a draft endorsement. The only positive thing about this is the fact that a lot of attention has been focused on his decision, more attention than an endorsement would have received. 23,000 comments I don't think there's a paywall, but if you can't see it, jlmk. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/10/28/jeff-bezos-washington-post-trust/ 23,000 comments - Some of my favorites Or you could say "I'm sorry. The timing of this was unacceptable and a mistake."
But sure, keep doubling down. That should work.
Many of us trusted the Washington Post because we believed it operated independent of your personal editorial interference. Stop lecturing us for a problem you created.
Jeff, can I call you Jeff? I'll be blunt because you're a busy man:
I no longer trust the media, because of actions like people like you. An independent media is essential. The second I see meddling from a billionaire, be it you, or others (Waves hands) I completely lose faith in the source.
You did this.
Jeff, it’s YOU we don’t trust, not the people who work for you. (With the exception of Will Lewis)
You will have to earn it back the hard way.
"It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it".
Warren Buffet
Mr. Bezos,
I recommend you sell the Washington Post. You've demonstrated you don't have the principles, conviction, or stones to own a newspaper in turbulent times.
Turn it over to a non-profit.
(He LOVES tax deductions.)
Better yet, please gift The Post to MacKenzie Scott. [his ex-wife who donated a significant portion of her divorce settlement] ] She’s both a writer and a true humanitarian. And she’s trustworthy. She’d be a perfect owner and leader for The Post.
In the face of fascism and tyranny, silence is consent.
Mr. Bezos, as long as we're dealing in hard truths, I'll offer this one for free on my way out: He's not going to love you. He's not going to be loyal to you. It doesn't matter how profoundly you debase yourself. He won't care about you.
You want to regain some trust, run what they were planning to run. The rest rings hollow. Glad I unsubscribed. Hope more
do the same.
But I did trust the Washington Post. And now I don’t. Under the banner of ‘Democracy Dies in Darkness’, days after Trump’s former Homeland Security Secretary and Chief of staff—a retired 4 star Marine general at that—said on the record and in recordings that Trump is a fascist, this news organization decided to sit this election out. That this happened at all, much less 11 days before the election, shows profoundly bad judgement. And, to me, it is unforgivable in this moment in time. If you are truly worried about trust in media, maybe this time called for saying something against the candidate who has caused so much of that distrust. Instead you insulted your readers. |
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Oct 29, 2024 22:51:50 GMT
TFG now knows he can push Bezos to do whatever TFG wants done... Easily at that!!
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Post by Bridget in MD on Oct 30, 2024 13:13:37 GMT
200 thousand cancelled their subscription. That has to be a big financial blow. Bezos doesn't care. The WaPo lost about $70 million last year. Their readership has been declining since 2020. I think, just my opinion, he owns WaPo just to say he owns a newspaper, and it helps offset his gains from his other companies. ETA - What will probably hurt the Post more is if ad revenues start to fall off. And if readership falls off, advertisers will be more reluctant to place ads in the Post. I don't think he cares just like Elon doesn't care that he destroyed twitter. The point is, these mega rich assholes are controlling the media. |
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