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Post by swtpeasmom on Oct 26, 2024 1:31:48 GMT
"If you wouldn't hire somebody to babysit your kids, you shouldn't make that guy the President of the United States." ~Liz Cheney
So, seriously, why don't Trump supporters, especially women, think like this? And if you asked them, I guarantee they would say that it's irrelevant. The mind boggles.
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Post by katlady on Oct 26, 2024 2:18:20 GMT
I don’t know if I fully agree with this. Some people are not good with kids, doesn’t mean they are not good people. I need to think about it and see what others have to say.
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Post by pilcas on Oct 26, 2024 2:18:33 GMT
Cult-like adoration or sheer stupidity?
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 26, 2024 2:46:26 GMT
I also wouldn’t want him as my boss or creepy coworker.
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Post by hopemax on Oct 26, 2024 5:05:13 GMT
Honestly, this wouldn't register with my Dad. He believes that President should be someone who can do the hard stuff when the time calls for it. That's a different set of skills than childcare.
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Post by 3boysnme on Oct 26, 2024 10:00:33 GMT
I wouldn't want him as my neighbor, much less interact with a child...any child! Harris? Absolutely! Walz? Most definitely! Vance? EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
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Post by hop2 on Oct 26, 2024 13:55:26 GMT
My kids are adults and there’s several candidates I would not subject my adult kids to. Kamala is not one of them.
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Post by jemali on Oct 26, 2024 13:59:02 GMT
My mom said “Poor Melanie. I couldn’t imagine being married to him”
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Post by melanell on Oct 26, 2024 14:28:10 GMT
I don’t know if I fully agree with this. Some people are not good with kids, doesn’t mean they are not good people. I need to think about it and see what others have to say. I agree. Babysitting children, especially small children or infants requires a certain set of skills. Not everyone learns those skills outside of having their own children. Now that's a more complicated issue than just that. Some people have kids and still don't learn those skills. But for the sake of this conversation, I certainly wouldn't say that I wouldn't vote for a childless candidate, for instance. Nor do I think being childless or without skills in caring for children removes the ability to understand the needs of voters who do have children.
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Post by melanell on Oct 26, 2024 14:31:11 GMT
But to answer the OP's question, my kids no longer require a babysitter, but if they were 10 years younger, I'd happily allow my presidential candidate to babysit them.
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Post by ntsf on Oct 26, 2024 14:36:19 GMT
its not being a babysitter, where. the barriers are often low.. but trump couldn't pass background check required for many many jobs!!
kamala could babysit my kids. if they were small
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 26, 2024 15:08:51 GMT
its not being a babysitter, where. the barriers are often low.. but trump couldn't pass background check required for many many jobs!! kamala could babysit my kids. if they were small 100% this. With 34 felonies on his record, he wouldn’t be able to get the job I had at 18 as a bank teller. With 34 felonies on his record, he wouldn’t pass the background check to volunteer at my kid’s school.
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Post by compeateropeator on Oct 26, 2024 15:41:26 GMT
My take on this is kind of twofold.
First…yes there are some people who are not children people. I would not pick those people as a nanny, teacher, or some other job that requires constant interaction with children/young people. It certainly does not mean the person is bad or anything negative, just that they have other skills that dictate what type of job they would be good at.
However, on the other hand, I expect that I should be able to leave a child with most adults for a few hours and not fear it. Even if they are not children people, they should be able to watch and keep a child safe for a few hours. I would not leave a child with Trump unattended, even for an hour. I do feel if I could not do that how could I even feel somewhat comfortable giving him the opportunity to be the US President for 4 years.
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Post by epeanymous on Oct 26, 2024 15:53:24 GMT
My take on this is kind of twofold. First…yes there are some people who are not children people. I would not pick those people as a nanny, teacher, or some other job that requires constant interaction with children/young people. It certainly does not mean the person is bad or anything negative, just that they have other skills that dictate what type of job they would be good at. However, on the other hand, I expect that I should be able to leave a child with most adults for a few hours and not fear it. Even if they are not children people, they should be able to watch and keep a child safe for a few hours. I would not leave a child with Trump unattended, even for an hour. I do feel if I could not do that how could I even feel somewhat comfortable giving him the opportunity to be the US President for 4 years. I think what I would say is, if I knew my child had to share an elevator with the president alone, would that worry me? And with one of them, thing is, it absolutely would.
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Post by crazy4scraps on Oct 26, 2024 16:00:28 GMT
My take on this is kind of twofold. First…yes there are some people who are not children people. I would not pick those people as a nanny, teacher, or some other job that requires constant interaction with children/young people. It certainly does not mean the person is bad or anything negative, just that they have other skills that dictate what type of job they would be good at. However, on the other hand, I expect that I should be able to leave a child with most adults for a few hours and not fear it. Even if they are not children people, they should be able to watch and keep a child safe for a few hours. I would not leave a child with Trump unattended, even for an hour. I do feel if I could not do that how could I even feel somewhat comfortable giving him the opportunity to be the US President for 4 years. I think what I would say is, if I knew my child had to share an elevator with the president alone, would that worry me? And with one of them, thing is, it absolutely would. Exactly! One of them is a proven letch that would intentionally walk in on teenage girls in a changing room and who hung out and partied with a convicted pedophile. I wouldn’t leave my teenage DD alone with him for five minutes! 🤮
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Post by jill8909 on Oct 26, 2024 16:01:37 GMT
I guess you are asking "does character matter in a president?"
Yes it does and yes I would trust my candidate and I guess that means you know you I support.
That said, I am also aware that no one is perfect. All candidates have character flaws.
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Post by sarahruby on Oct 26, 2024 16:48:14 GMT
I don’t know if I fully agree with this. Some people are not good with kids, doesn’t mean they are not good people. I need to think about it and see what others have to say. I agree with this
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Post by pantsonfire on Oct 26, 2024 16:52:06 GMT
I voted or Harris and Walz. My answer is no.
I could care less if it was the Pope or the VP or a random teacher who won teacher of the year.
I never let my kids with a random person.
Not everyone is it to care of kids especially those with medical needs and Autism.
Her statement bothers me because it's no to anyone. Doesn't mean they won't make a great president.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Oct 26, 2024 16:57:30 GMT
I think Liz Cheney is awesome for standing for her convictions and campaigning for Harris. However, I don't love this. I agree with a previous poster that the better comment is - if you wouldn't want your daughter to ride in an elevator alone with them, they shouldn't be president. Caring for children is actually difficult, and in some ways I think it dismisses that difficulty. The fact is there are lots of people I may support for a job and would not have wanted to babysit my children.
I would rip out my own fingernails before letting my 22 year old daughter anywhere near Trump. And that's a better judge of his character or lack thereof than whether I'd let him babysit my kids.
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Post by melanell on Oct 26, 2024 18:21:05 GMT
I voted or Harris and Walz. My answer is no. I could care less if it was the Pope or the VP or a random teacher who won teacher of the year. I never let my kids with a random person. Not everyone is it to care of kids especially those with medical needs and Autism. Her statement bothers me because it's no to anyone. Doesn't mean they won't make a great president. That thought did cross my mind as well (less your very important point about medical needs) then I thought about every coach, speech therapist, librarian, teacher of small classes outside of school, parents of a classmate, etc. who I have left my kids with over the years for an hour or two, and I know more about Kamala Harris than I knew about several of those people. In retrospect, I can practically guarantee that the parents of some of my one child's former classmates as a kid are probably now trump supporters. And my kid played at their homes without me, went to parties, movies, etc. with them. So yeah, I'd trust Kamala Harris just as much or more than some of these other folks, to properly care for my kids for a few hours.
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Post by lucyg on Oct 27, 2024 23:43:29 GMT
I think the question is sort of metaphorical (probably not even the right word). It’s not about whether the candidate has the skills to care for children, and if that has any bearing on whether he or she has the skills to serve as president.
It’s about whether, at a most basic level, the candidate is a trustworthy, decent person.
And I think most of us understand that one of the candidates absolutely is NOT.
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Post by kluski on Oct 28, 2024 0:02:45 GMT
The president is not my friend. I don’t pretend they are in my friend circle. I don’t care what they post or who they associate with. Their job is vastly more important than any role in my life. Nevermind, I trust very few people with my child.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Oct 28, 2024 0:05:42 GMT
I think people are taking the question too literally. It’s about the general character of the candidates. I would never let Trump be around my kids because he is racist, sexist, liar, criminal and on and on. I also doubt he would be hired by many companies even as a low level employee. And he certainly wouldn’t be hired by a daycare center due to his record.
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Post by ellen on Oct 28, 2024 0:48:55 GMT
I think people are taking the question too literally. It’s about the general character of the candidates. I would never let Trump be around my kids because he is racist, sexist, liar, criminal and on and on. I also doubt he would be hired by many companies even as a low level employee. And he certainly wouldn’t be hired by a daycare center due to his record. That is how I take it too. I just wouldn’t want him around my kids at all.
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Post by aprilfay21 on Oct 28, 2024 14:27:08 GMT
I wouldn't trust my presidential candidate to babysit my kids. Just like I wouldn't trust any of you. I don't know them on a personal level, know if they are "kid people", etc. But that doesn't make them unfit to run the country.
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Post by Gennifer on Oct 28, 2024 16:39:14 GMT
People are taking it too literally.
Change it to anything else: Would you want them to date your sibling? Would you go into business with them? Would you trust them to hold your purse?
The true question is about character. One has it, one does not.
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Post by Laurie on Oct 28, 2024 16:44:55 GMT
Honestly I think virtuous and politician are oxymoron's so there is not a candidate that I would trust...with anyone or anything.
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Post by pantsonfire on Oct 28, 2024 17:19:42 GMT
People are taking it too literally. Change it to anything else: Would you want them to date your sibling? Would you go into business with them? Would you trust them to hold your purse? The true question is about character. One has it, one does not. Still a solid no for Harris and Walz. I don't trust majority of politicians.
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Post by Lurkingpea on Oct 28, 2024 18:40:41 GMT
People are taking it too literally. Change it to anything else: Would you want them to date your sibling? Would you go into business with them? Would you trust them to hold your purse? The true question is about character. One has it, one does not. Still a solid no for Harris and Walz. I don't trust majority of politicians. You wouldn't trust Harris or Walz to hold your purse? Really? Or date your sibling? Going into business is too much, but the others? You are one suspicious cookie.
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Post by pantsonfire on Oct 28, 2024 19:26:20 GMT
Still a solid no for Harris and Walz. I don't trust majority of politicians. You wouldn't trust Harris or Walz to hold your purse? Really? Or date your sibling? Going into business is too much, but the others? You are one suspicious cookie. LOL okay. I wouldn't ask any person I personally don't know to hold my purse. Jesus some you are reaching a bit much. This is why I'm not here much. The political hoity toity we're better crap gets old. I don't know them. Just because they are the better running pair doesn't mean I would trust them with anything and everything. Would you ask a complete stranger to hold your purse?
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