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Post by mags243 on Nov 1, 2024 17:12:27 GMT
Do you think if Harris wins there will be some kind of uprising? My husband watched something on YouTube, then started reading articles and is now really paranoid about potential civil war. So of course I googled and there are plenty of people who think it could happen. Are you concerned? If so, are you doing anything to prepare?
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 1, 2024 17:34:09 GMT
It's certainly a possibility maybe even likely. But, I did read a theory that gave me hope. Trump will not incite violence right before his sentencing in the fraud trial. Although, given what he said today or yesterday about Liz Cheney, that might not be the case.
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Post by gracieplusthree on Nov 1, 2024 17:35:21 GMT
Yep.
Wishing I'd had the forethought to take the day after the election off. Honestly nervous about that whole following week.
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Post by katlady on Nov 1, 2024 17:39:16 GMT
I think there is a good possibility of violence if Harris wins. But I also think that even if Trump wins, there are some segments of his base that will feel emboldened towards "justice" towards the "enemy", if you know what I mean. I think the next 3 months will be rocky no matter who wins.
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Post by hop2 on Nov 1, 2024 17:46:44 GMT
Day after? No not worried. If the election is even determined by 11/6 violence won’t immediately begin. They’ll start the lawsuit bullshit to go to their hand pick supreme court so they can pretend to be law abiding.
The shit will hit the fan later than 11/6.
Prepared? No, what am I supposed to do buy a gun to shoot my fellow Americans because they’ve fallen for a con man? I wouldn’t have the heart. I have no problem cutting MAGAts out of my life but I’m not going to take up arms.
The next 66 days are going to be wild.
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Post by amom23 on Nov 1, 2024 17:47:49 GMT
No I'm not worried. All this talk of a civil war - well just who are these people going to go to war with? Just march down the street? Biden will still be president and you can be sure as shit he isn't going to allow any attack on the capital. Nobody really knows for sure who voted for who so it's not like I'm worried about my neighbors "coming after" me.
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 1, 2024 17:55:48 GMT
I'm not worried about my own personal safety but I worry about poll workers, Democratic governors and secretaries of state. Think Gretchen Whitmer. I'm worried about whatever secret Mike Johnson and Trump have. I'm worried about Jan 6 and whatever plan they have. I'm worried Johnson will refuse or delay seating new Democratic representatives, like the one from NY who replaced George Santos.
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 1, 2024 18:08:32 GMT
Yes, and no I'm not doing anything to prepare, I have no idea what that would even entail.
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Post by scrappinmama on Nov 1, 2024 18:17:35 GMT
I'm so nervous. January 6th taught us just how unhinged those people are. I am planning to work from home Wednesday, Thursday and Friday next week.
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Post by flanz on Nov 1, 2024 18:21:14 GMT
Very concerned. For the first time today I considered moving back to Canada and began trying to find out most liberal regions... good info hard to find. Feel incredibly fortunate to have Canadian citizenship, as do our kids, so technically we could move back. DS already lives in Canada.
WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE. However, my feeling of dread is worsening day by day. I think political violence is highly likely.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 1, 2024 18:35:00 GMT
In 2020, Trump was in the WH and could draw people to him for Jan 6th. This time around is logistically different. I think there will be lots of talk, but not so much walking the walk of civil war. How many Jan 6 insurrectionist went to or are currently in jail? How many awaiting trial? How many still holding their breath that the knock doesn't come to their door? I'm hoping the knock comes on the doors of more than a few elected peeps because of the Jack Smith investigation once the election is over.
Honestly, I would not be the least bit surprised if Trump flees the country after the election.
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Post by mom on Nov 1, 2024 19:15:00 GMT
I am not worried about that, at all. It wont happen. Yes, there will be assholes (on both sides) who try and start shit, but the majority of people (again, on both sides) don't want a civil war and don't want the fighting to continue).
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Post by hopemax on Nov 1, 2024 19:17:27 GMT
I am more worried about political violence on a large scale if he wins, than if he doesn't. People would protest a 2nd Trump presidency for a variety of reasons and this time he does attempt to use the National Guard to deal with such protests. And that's when there is the potential for the gloves to come off. Do you plan to go quietly if Americans are "dealt with" for using their 1st amendment rights?
Even with January 6th, the appetite for MAGA to do more than run their mouths at every opportunity doesn't seem too strong. The loudest voices are grifters in it for the money and exposure, not because they want to actually take up arms. This doesn't mean single individuals with guns won't be motivated to do something. However, due to the nature of our country's relationship with guns and mass shootings it won't grow into anything meaningful.
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Post by sabrinae on Nov 1, 2024 19:20:04 GMT
Most here are more optimistic than I am. I think there is likely to be violence from the right regardless of who wins or loses. The extent of violence - I don’t know. I had a guy yelling at a woman outside my window at work the other day who was merely holding up a sign that protested gerrymandering. I don’t think it will be in the immediate day or two after but I do think there will be violence. I won’t be suprised at all of there are assasination attempts of politicians or poll workers.
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Post by leeny on Nov 1, 2024 19:23:09 GMT
I am also concerned that there will be loads of legal filings no matter who wins.
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Post by peamused on Nov 1, 2024 19:28:11 GMT
I don't think there will be a civil war. Will there be chaos and protests? Probably. But I won't let fear rule my life anymore. It's a good idea to have food and emergency type things stocked up for other reasons. But a civil war? I highly doubt that will happen. (The media and the magas want us to believe that. But again I refuse to subscribe to living in fear.)
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Post by mom on Nov 1, 2024 19:30:45 GMT
I am also concerned that there will be loads of legal filings no matter who wins. Now this? This I am concerned about.
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 1, 2024 22:51:09 GMT
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Post by lisae on Nov 1, 2024 22:51:59 GMT
I think we can handle whatever happens if Harris wins a lot more than we can handle 4 years of Trump. If she wins and it is as close as projected, it will be 2020 all over again. But this time Trump isn't in the White House so his powers are more limited.
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Post by Merge on Nov 1, 2024 22:55:18 GMT
I think we can handle whatever happens if Harris wins a lot more than we can handle 4 years of Trump. If she wins and it is as close as projected, it will be 2020 all over again. But this time Trump isn't in the White House so his powers are more limited. They are more limited, but the Republicans in congress can still do a lot of damage. Those who still fanatically support Trump are honestly as crazy and unhinged as he is, and many of them have extensive personal arsenals. While I think an actual civil war is unlikely, I wouldn't be surprised if there are pockets of violence if he loses.
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Post by aj2hall on Nov 2, 2024 1:01:56 GMT
This was a little encouraging ability to change the results is lessWashington Week with The Atlantic | PBS
Donald Trump "will, if he loses, complain. He will file lawsuits. The violence is obviously the one thing you cannot control, but his ability to change the results is far less than it was four years ago. A lot has happened since then," says @peterbakernyt.
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Post by andreasmom on Nov 2, 2024 16:44:41 GMT
Day after? No not worried. If the election is even determined by 11/6 violence won’t immediately begin. They’ll start the lawsuit bullshit to go to their hand pick supreme court so they can pretend to be law abiding. The shit will hit the fan later than 11/6. Prepared? No, what am I supposed to do buy a gun to shoot my fellow Americans because they’ve fallen for a con man? I wouldn’t have the heart. I have no problem cutting MAGAts out of my life but I’m not going to take up arms. The next 66 days are going to be wild. Well, i am not worried about rational people. I’m worried about cultist magas who will want to come to anyone who voted dem and shoot them. Those are the people who will want to take arms
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Post by disneypal on Nov 2, 2024 17:01:12 GMT
Do you think if Harris wins there will be some kind of uprising? Are you concerned? If so, are you doing anything to prepare? Yes! He’s already been planting the seed about an unfair election so when he loses, he will be shouting it along with his followers. They won’t easily accept the loss. I am concerned but I don’t expect a war or anything to that level.
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Post by librarylady on Nov 3, 2024 15:12:40 GMT
In 2020, Trump was in the WH and could draw people to him for Jan 6th. This time around is logistically different. I think there will be lots of talk, but not so much walking the walk of civil war. How many Jan 6 insurrectionist went to or are currently in jail? How many awaiting trial? How many still holding their breath that the knock doesn't come to their door? I'm hoping the knock comes on the doors of more than a few elected peeps because of the Jack Smith investigation once the election is over. Honestly, I would not be the least bit surprised if Trump flees the country after the election. I anticipate something like January 6 when the Electoral College votes are authenticated...
Trump has said if he loses "things will happen."
He once said he would leave the US if he lost. His problem is finding a country who will let him in as more than one foreign leader has said, "He is not welcome here." As a convicted felon, his choices are limited.
I don't anticipate any jail time over the charges in New York.
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Post by amom23 on Nov 3, 2024 15:24:36 GMT
In 2020, Trump was in the WH and could draw people to him for Jan 6th. This time around is logistically different. I think there will be lots of talk, but not so much walking the walk of civil war. How many Jan 6 insurrectionist went to or are currently in jail? How many awaiting trial? How many still holding their breath that the knock doesn't come to their door? I'm hoping the knock comes on the doors of more than a few elected peeps because of the Jack Smith investigation once the election is over. Honestly, I would not be the least bit surprised if Trump flees the country after the election. I anticipate something like January 6 when the Electoral College votes are authenticated...
Trump has said if he loses "things will happen."
He once said he would leave the US if he lost. His problem is finding a country who will let him in as more than one foreign leader has said, "He is not welcome here." As a convicted felon, his choices are limited.
I don't anticipate any jail time over the charges in New York.
Well Trump says a lot of things....... Since Biden is our sitting president there is not a chance in hell any riot is going to happen anywhere near the capitol.
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Post by melanell on Nov 3, 2024 15:28:02 GMT
I'm of two minds---one says that some of his supporters will likely feel justified in trying to get back his "rightful" place as the "real" president by any means.
On the flip side, I think that at least some of his supporters may have noticed that it wasn't trump who went to jail for Jan. 6th. Although others did. And they could be next if they try something similar. And that Jan. 6th did NOT in fact, put trump back on his throne. If any violence this time also fails to put him back in the White House then they can kiss goodbye any promises of freedom once he's in office.
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Post by bc2ca on Nov 3, 2024 18:06:59 GMT
He once said he would leave the US if he lost. His problem is finding a country who will let him in as more than one foreign leader has said, "He is not welcome here." As a convicted felon, his choices are limited. He will only go to a country with a friendly dictator, which definitely limits the options. He openly suggested Venezuela and Jr has said El Salvador. I doubt it will be Russia or Saudi Arabia or his bestie in North Korea (does North Korea have a McDonald's?). FWIW, I think the attempts to block the electoral college vote will happen at the state level.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Nov 3, 2024 19:13:34 GMT
And it starts... TFG is calling for assassins to target media!!!! Alex Jones telling them to get ready for civil war.. Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones encouraged his followers to "fight harder" and be ready for "civil war conditions" after former President Donald Trump gave a campaign rally speech over the weekend. During Trump's Sunday morning speech in Pennsylvania, he suggested that he should not have left office after losing the 2020 presidential election and called for assassins to target members of the news media.x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1853118076360810946www.rawstory.com/alex-jones-civil-war/
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Post by MichyM on Nov 3, 2024 19:39:23 GMT
I am also concerned that there will be loads of legal filings no matter who wins. BINGO. What a flippin' waste of taxpayer dollars.
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Post by AussieMeg on Nov 3, 2024 22:59:43 GMT
If trump loses, I am sure that he will go on and on about how the election was stolen again. Whatever, it's to be expected from him.
I am really concerned about the safety of Harris though, and what trump's MAGAts might do.
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