Will abortion be banned nationwide?

Yes, probably not at first but by the end of 2027 I expect it.

Well for one it would require Congress to get rid of the filibuster first + Congress members aren't going to risk their seat by supporting a ban. I just dont see it happening.

I hope you are right.

trump loves abortions. he supported them until he decided he needed the religious right. he'll let kennedy or someone do what they want.

he wants $$.

If anyone ever hears of anyone needing OBGYN healthcare please let me help you or your daughter or niece or your foster child I don’t care. I will do what I can do from here and I plan to find out if I can get RU486 or any other procedure if need be. I plan to call Sexual Health tomorrow to see if they will see out of country people.

yes.. he has no viewpoint.. just what his rich friends and his extreme friends want.. esp those right wing "christians"

How would a national abortion ban affect states that have protected abortion rights in their constitutions?

This is how they will get around it. God help any woman in this country who miscarries and finds herself in need of a D&C.

ETA: It might also affect some of the kinds of birth control currently available. One of DD’s 14 YO classmates is considering getting an IUD now even though she isn’t sexually active and has never even been on a date.

No

As with him and his whole administration it might come down to which prevails, intentions or incompetence. Let's hope they suck so bad they can't get sh!t done. With a little help from resistance on the other side.

Not to piss in your cereal, but I live in Kansas.  We voted on our healthcare rights 2 years ago and have had nothing but problems from our GOP politicians.  May the odds be ever in your favor.

I’m aware but I still don’t think he will do any of those things. Trump wants it to the states - and he has that.

I do believe there will be a nationwide abortion ban.

Yes, SCOTUS said it is up to the states, but that is because they were overturning a SCOTUS ruling that gave certain rights to individuals regardless of the state in which they lived. They did NOT rule that Congress has no power to enact a ban.

If Congress wants to couch a ban in terms of "protecting the civil rights of the unborn," it could be argued that it has just as valid a basis as any other federal civil rights law. The other way they could ban it is an outright ban on the medical abortions by either outlawing the drugs or the transportation of them across state lines. There are a lot of ways they can restrict the procedure so much that it becomes a virtual ban.

I also don't believe for one minute that they will continue with the current filibuster rules. They are mad with power and they can't pass Project 2025 initiatives with the filibuster in place.

One thing I fear the most is the makeup of SCOTUS. Of course, Thomas and Alito will step aside sometime next year so their replacements can be confirmed before they have to defend the Senate in 2026, assuring that two more young justices are appointed to keep the court conservative for the next 30-40 years. That is the obvious move.

The less obvious move they could make if they get rid of the filibuster is to add more seats, just as many Democrats had been pushing for if they had regained control this year. The court has been expanded before, and the argument to be made for expanding again is to add 4 justices so we have 13 justices representing the 13 circuits. Many liberal strategists had suggested this as a way to "rebalance" the court under Biden, but it was not an option because he did not have the votes to beat the filibuster. He also didn't have the votes to end the filibuster. It only takes 51 votes to end it, but Manchin and Sinema would not agree.


I would not be surprised to see Republicans lift the filibuster to push through an expanded SCOTUS, giving trump a total of 6 more supreme court justices this term (including replacements for Alito and Thomas). This would give them a 10-3 advantage for the next 30-40 years, but most importantly, it would block Democrats from making this move in a later administration. At some point you cannot keep expanding the court, and whoever makes the first move wins. Thirteen justices makes sense and is somewhat defensible, but a Democrat adding another 8 seats in the future to get an 11-10 advantage would be pretty ridiculous.

I also don't believe for one minute that anyone in a red state is "afraid" of losing their seat if they vote to end the filibuster. The money on the Republican side, coupled with the Musk propaganda machine, would protect them. 

Speculating about what Trump will do ... well, I think it's unlikely that Trump will survive this term. He is unhealthy to begin with and, in his campaign's own words, exhausted. His cognitive decline will become more and more obvious. The people surrounding Trump are very much in favor of a national ban, and the weaker he gets mentally, the more likely he lets one of them talk him into signing such a ban.

But also, be worried about what President Vance will do. JD Vance has stated in the past that he'd like abortion to be illegal nationally, and also has mused about "a federal response" to make sure women in red states can't travel to other states to seek abortions. He'd like to make it illegal for abortion rights supporters to donate to organizations that help women seek abortions in other states.

"Let the states decide" begins to look a lot like "turn a blind eye while religious white men in red states imprison women in those states, denying them their constitutional right to travel." He couches it as "making sure blue-state billionaires respect the wishes of red-state Republican men." The rights of women in those states is not of any concern.

And still the price of bread won't have fallen.