samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Nov 7, 2024 17:17:57 GMT
shocked, sad, scared - yes all of that but also -I loved the Vice-president's concession speech about peaceful transfer of power but that the fight wasn't over. I loved the Lincoln Project's message about democracy requiring the willingness to be the loser in the process but that they will continue to fight for democracy. I've never been affliated with a party. I've always voted a mix of D, R, and 3rd party on any given partisan ballot. I've only ever voted for the winner of a Presidential election once (2020). BUT this is the first time I've seen the election results and not thought - well, I don't like this person and I don't agree with their policies but it'll be ok. I've always thought that BOTH candidates were running with the good of the country in mind even if we disagreed on what that meant. Even in 2016 - I didn't like the results but I didn't/couldn't anticipate how bad it would be. Now - I know...I have no confidence that our President-Elect has the good of anyone but himself in mind. But I feel like I have a choice - I can complain about the results, postulate about election fraud/interference/conspiracies or I can work towards change so things will be different in 2026 and 2028; work towards helping the under privileged and disenfranchised, work towards finding some common ground with people I don't agree with (because you can't change minds if you can't find a commonality), work towards saving our democracy for our children and those still to come. what did dump say he would do to enhance the lives of Americans?
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Post by sunnyd on Nov 7, 2024 17:30:15 GMT
I guess I'm going through the phases of grief. I'm angry with Biden and the party in general that he waited so late to withdraw. I feel like Kamala didn't have a fair chance to sell herself or get her message out.
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samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Nov 7, 2024 17:35:40 GMT
I guess I'm going through the phases of grief. I'm angry with Biden and the party in general that he waited so late to withdraw. I feel like Kamala didn't have a fair chance to sell herself or get her message out. Why would there need to be a year of message? It's simple.
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Post by Linda on Nov 7, 2024 17:37:51 GMT
shocked, sad, scared - yes all of that but also -I loved the Vice-president's concession speech about peaceful transfer of power but that the fight wasn't over. I loved the Lincoln Project's message about democracy requiring the willingness to be the loser in the process but that they will continue to fight for democracy. I've never been affliated with a party. I've always voted a mix of D, R, and 3rd party on any given partisan ballot. I've only ever voted for the winner of a Presidential election once (2020). BUT this is the first time I've seen the election results and not thought - well, I don't like this person and I don't agree with their policies but it'll be ok. I've always thought that BOTH candidates were running with the good of the country in mind even if we disagreed on what that meant. Even in 2016 - I didn't like the results but I didn't/couldn't anticipate how bad it would be. Now - I know...I have no confidence that our President-Elect has the good of anyone but himself in mind. But I feel like I have a choice - I can complain about the results, postulate about election fraud/interference/conspiracies or I can work towards change so things will be different in 2026 and 2028; work towards helping the under privileged and disenfranchised, work towards finding some common ground with people I don't agree with (because you can't change minds if you can't find a commonality), work towards saving our democracy for our children and those still to come. what did dump say he would do to enhance the lives of Americans? Please re-read what I actually wrote - in 2016 - I didn't know what was coming but this time, I know and I don't believe that he'll do anything that doesn't directly benefit himself. He showed that during his first term and in the time since. IN ALL PREVIOUS elections - I felt that even if I didn't agree with the President, I could trust that they had the country's best interests in mind even if I disagreed with what those were.
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samantha25
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Post by samantha25 on Nov 7, 2024 17:47:07 GMT
what did dump say he would do to enhance the lives of Americans? Please re-read what I actually wrote - in 2016 - I didn't know what was coming but this time, I know and I don't believe that he'll do anything that doesn't directly benefit himself. He showed that during his first term and in the time since. IN ALL PREVIOUS elections - I felt that even if I didn't agree with the President, I could trust that they had the country's best interests in mind even if I disagreed with what those were. exactly ..what will dump do for us now
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Post by Linda on Nov 7, 2024 17:50:25 GMT
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Post by wordyphotogbabe on Nov 7, 2024 17:54:40 GMT
Ready to devour my enemies.
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when bears hibernate no one calls them cowardly nature understands there are some environments too harsh to withstand and hiding can be surviving sometimes
no one tells a bear she can’t take the winter but everyone tells a woman she’s being too dramatic
hysteria is just grief institutionalized by the patriarchy
they hate women so much and this is nothing new but old wounds can still kill and dead women make them so happy we are asked not to give up and yeah sure we won’t
if we gave up every time the world said we were worthless mankind would have gone extinct ages ago but bears are allowed to hibernate and i’m not saying sit out the whole winter but maybe grab some berries and snuggle up before leaving the cave to devour your enemies
"if you need to rest your bloody paws for a moment, take my cave" by Kaitlin Shetler
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Post by nine on Nov 7, 2024 18:06:47 GMT
I am on day 2 of no news. I just can’t bear to watch anything about that fat fucking monster. I feel pretty good. I’m leaning heavily into my hobbies and I think that’s going to help me feel better.
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Post by Rhondito on Nov 7, 2024 18:36:27 GMT
I've been completely broken with worry. I canceled my Directv streaming service yesterday - I can't keep watching the news outlets.
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Post by gryroagain on Nov 7, 2024 18:42:41 GMT
I spent yesterday wallowing. Cancelled my volunteer gig (not cool but I just couldn’t face the kids). Drank way too much.
It was a dreadful idea so maybe don’t do that . But I was just fucking tired of always having to keep on keeping on.
Feel dreadful today, but I need to get it together. Eat well, exercise, get good sleep. Trap some more cats and teach English to orphans and thank God I don’t live in the US.
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Post by micheley on Nov 7, 2024 18:53:04 GMT
I've been completely broken with worry. I canceled my Directv streaming service yesterday - I can't keep watching the news outlets. I’ve canceled all political newsletters & substacks. Canceled Apple+ news. Unfollowed political & news subreddits. Made a list of things I think his administration will do and what I think the outcomes will be. Now I’m going to try to figure out how to minimize the fallout for my family. Going to start cutting back on unnecessary expenditures, start a little food stockpile, and make sure we’re caught up on vaccines. Encouraged youngest to consider birth control implant. I’ve spent 8 years in “we’ll be fine but I worry about the vulnerable” mode. Now I’m worried about us. I think the next few years are going to be dark. CNN — Donald Trump’s allies and some in the private sector have been quietly preparing to detain and deport migrants residing in the United States on a large scale, according to four sources familiar with the discussions. And with the former president becoming the president-elect, those preparations are now expected to ramp up.
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Post by hop2 on Nov 7, 2024 19:21:17 GMT
I spent yesterday wallowing. Cancelled my volunteer gig (not cool but I just couldn’t face the kids). Drank way too much. It was a dreadful idea so maybe don’t do that . But I was just fucking tired of always having to keep on keeping on. Feel dreadful today, but I need to get it together. Eat well, exercise, get good sleep. Trap some more cats and teach English to orphans and thank God I don’t live in the US. I did not succumb to drinking. DS & I toyed with having a glass of whatever at dinner but we didn’t. I did succumb to 1/4 pint of icecream though. My bad.
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Post by hop2 on Nov 7, 2024 19:22:40 GMT
I am on day 2 of no news. I just can’t bear to watch anything about that fat fucking monster. I feel pretty good. I’m leaning heavily into my hobbies and I think that’s going to help me feel better. It’ll be a long time before I watch news. I’m in processing mode right now. ETA: Most especially because I don’t think I can handle what is coming if his threats/promises were true.
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Post by mollycoddle on Nov 7, 2024 19:33:39 GMT
I did not watch the news last night. Today I am looking forward like I always do. I have to believe that in the end the republic will continue on through the next 4 years. I just know I won't be listening to the President speak. This. I think that if I avoid his orange face by doing more reading than TV, I will be ok. I do not want to listen to him or look at him, above all.
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Nov 7, 2024 19:33:40 GMT
as much as I love Seth Meyers, Stephen Colbert, and the Daily Show, I can't even bring myself to watch any of that right now, let alone actual straight news coverage.
Right now I'm trying to figure out how to respond in a (mostly) non-snarky way to my R-voting DH the next time he complains about the high price of ANYthing. And what we'll talk about when we go out to dinner together tomorrow night. (I've had lots of ranting one-sided conversations in my head over the course of the last couple days, but... I gotta figure out how to process and figure out some way to get through this for the next 4 years.)
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Post by peppermintpatty on Nov 7, 2024 19:35:25 GMT
I deleted my FB account, I blocked all news feeds on my homepage, I'm not watching any news. The world could blow up and I won't know and won't care.
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Post by hop2 on Nov 7, 2024 19:39:48 GMT
as much as I love Seth Meyers, Stephen Colbert, and the Daily Show, I can't even bring myself to watch any of that right now, let alone actual straight news coverage. Right now I'm trying to figure out how to respond in a (mostly) non-snarky way to my R-voting DH the next time he complains about the high price of ANYthing. And what we'll talk about when we go out to dinner together tomorrow night. (I've had lots of ranting one-sided conversations in my head over the course of the last couple days, but... I gotta figure out how to process and figure out some way to get through this for the next 4 years.) I would not be able to stop from saying “it’s exactly what you voted for so stop complaining’ I do have 2 people in my life who I will undoubtedly say that to but I don’t live with them at least. I’m also actively avoiding them.
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Post by Tearisci on Nov 7, 2024 19:40:29 GMT
I deleted my FB account, I blocked all news feeds on my homepage, I'm not watching any news. The world could blow up and I won't know and won't care. I feel ya. Luckily, nothing has been posted on FB by the people I know voted for Trump. One slight post but it wasn't anything major. I normally watch the first 20 minutes of the Today show to find out what's going on but I can't do that. I won't be watching any news either.
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Post by breetheflea on Nov 7, 2024 19:40:33 GMT
I did not watch the news last night. Today I am looking forward like I always do. I have to believe that in the end the republic will continue on through the next 4 years. I just know I won't be listening to the President speak. This. I think that if I avoid his orange face by doing more reading than TV, I will be ok. I do not want to listen to him or look at him, above all. Good luck. I picked up a fiction book the night before the election so I could avoid the TV and politics, and the second line of the book the main character mentioned Trump. Otherwise, I am also distracting myself. I made a list of things to do besides doomscrolling and checking the news. I might be doing a lot of knitting (as well as reading, baking, cross stitch, drawing, learning to play an instrument, gardening, puzzles, and genealogy) in the next four years.
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Post by hopemax on Nov 7, 2024 19:48:51 GMT
When Bezos refused to allow the Washington Post to make an endorsement, the existential dread I felt during his first term returned. I let myself get swayed by the Seltzer Iowa poll, and that was a mistake. In the case of a Trump victory, there was never a "not bad" outcome in my mind and I've been thinking about what we could do to prepare for it, since it was clear he would be the nominee. Which isn't much, unfortunately. Zero debt (including the house) and what could we do in terms of household repairs and, larger items because I expect them to be more expensive in the future, and debating moving back to the PNW. Colorado is one of the only places that didn't see huge slippage, but we are still a blue state in a sea of red, and that might not be safe for the rest of my lifetime. Plus, climate change effects. The vaccine thing, I did not think of. I haven't had a doctor for years, for reasons and anxiety and the thought of having to go to make sure my childhood vaccines are still good is causing me more anxiety.
My anger today is more directed to those who are holding onto the belief that there was something Democrats could do to have changed the outcome, when as I've posted elsewhere, I believe what happened here is what is happening globally and has historical precedent. This is how an alternative to authoritarianism choices will continue to lose. People wanting to believe unicorns exist instead of believing people actively chose the Devil. Given what Trump and his surrogates have said about targeting political enemies, I expect there will be an election in 2028, and 2032 and beyond. But autocrats will still win, because they will have identified and knee-capped potential adversaries *before* they can rise to the national prominence and respect that it will take to win. They will have lade down all the potentials with baggage, that when it came time to vote people of both parties, will have a shopping list of reasons to chose from that made them "not a good candidate."
Otherwise, I'm saving my angst for later. Today, Joe Biden is still president and Mitch McConnell isn't Senate Majority Leader. There will be plenty of opportunity for despair later. We went to Tokyo Disneyland in mid-October, so I've been working on my Trip Report for my Disney Pin Collecting forum. Distraction for me, and distraction for others who may need one right now.
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Post by ntsf on Nov 7, 2024 19:49:41 GMT
I actually watched colbert last night and it was very very good. he had john dickerson on .. and it was a very thoughtful discussion.
so for me, from my place of privilege, I don't want to shut off all news at this point, but be a thoughtful consumer.
but that's me in my blue bubble. never saw a trump sign in this town.
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Post by chefsuzyq on Nov 7, 2024 20:08:26 GMT
I was hoping that Kamala would win and I wouldn’t have to listen to Trump’s voice anymore. His voice irritates the crap out of me. I wanted him to lose the election and afterwards I wanted to see him on TV going to prison.
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Post by fiddlesticks on Nov 7, 2024 20:22:20 GMT
I feel like crap. I was already fighting off a cold over the weekend and it has settled in my chest so physically, I feel like crap.
Mentally, I also feel like crap. I am not putting myself in a position to have to hear the cheetos voice. I've started the slow process of thinking "ok...what does this mean for me?" since that is all I can control. My sister (Harris supporter) and my dad (Trumper) had huge fight on Monday which resulted in my dad hanging up on her. She was going to fly out and road trip with him to my house for Thanksgiving but she said last night she's not sure she can do it.
I mostly just still want to crawl into bed.
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Post by lisae on Nov 7, 2024 20:31:19 GMT
I'm still not sleeping well. It's not just the election as we are wrapping up a project at home. I should be waking up with excitement about finishing a remodel that I started planning 18 months ago. Instead at night, I can't keep thinking about what is to come. Then I think of something or read something new or a reminder of something I'd forgotten. Like this morning an article about how Trump usually wants to pressure the Fed to lower interest rates (whether they should be or not). The White House usually leaves policy to the Fed, but he wants to put his thumb on everything - things he truly doesn't understand.
So I alternate thinking about things I have to do and things that might happen. I also miss the news. I still check NYTimes site but I can't stay there long. I was too obsessed with political news before the election but now I know it is just going to frustrate me further so I'm avoiding news sites I used to enjoy.
And I've avoided the gym this week. I've been busy but mostly I don't want to encounter anyone who will be the least bit happy with the outcome. In a county where 79% of the voters (and we had about an 80% turnout) voted for him, there will bound to be talk I can't escape. Next week I'll go back.
I need to find a way to accept what I can not change and get on with life. I can not let that man take anything more from me than what he may do with his economic and social policies.
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Post by MichyM on Nov 7, 2024 20:39:16 GMT
I spent yesterday wallowing. Cancelled my volunteer gig (not cool but I just couldn’t face the kids). Drank way too much. It was a dreadful idea so maybe don’t do that . But I was just fucking tired of always having to keep on keeping on. Feel dreadful today, but I need to get it together. Eat well, exercise, get good sleep. Trap some more cats and teach English to orphans and thank God I don’t live in the US. I did not succumb to drinking. DS & I toyed with having a glass of whatever at dinner but we didn’t. I did succumb to 1/4 pint of icecream though. My bad. That you stopped at a 1/4 pint is astounding. I would have eaten the whole thing had it been in my house. I went with wine.
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Post by hopemax on Nov 7, 2024 20:40:53 GMT
I have emotional support liege waffles from Costco (plus strawberries and whipped cream), and I had DH stop at Safeway on the way home on Tuesday for emotional support cake slices. Normally, I eat mine in 2 days, but I still have some left for tonight on Night 3. I'm so proud of myself, lol.
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Post by jayfab on Nov 7, 2024 21:04:18 GMT
Almost as horrible as yesterday. Yesterday when I logged into fb the first thing that pulls up is a neighborhood page stating something about God did this or some nonsense justifying his win. And of course the first comment was about the "libtards" going nuts. That was enough, I deactivated my account. I am so tired of the name calling. And today I decided to try and get out of my funk, went to pick up new glasses and stop at Kroger. Well there went my mood. The two trumpers working at the cash register were bitching about those immigrants. I let them know it's not a good idea to be discussing politics while customers are there. Thanks for screwing up my outing.
I have no non cult friends or relatives. I feel so so so alone. I honestly have no idea how I will get thru these next 4 years, glad I'm old and could die.
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Post by micheley on Nov 7, 2024 21:07:44 GMT
I have no non cult friends or relatives. I feel so so so alone. I honestly have no idea how I will get thru these next 4 years, glad I'm old and could die. Awwww jayfab. That makes me want to cry. (((hugs)))
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Nov 7, 2024 21:56:34 GMT
There is a youTube channel called 1420 with Daniil Orin that is based in Russia. The host interviews people on the street and asks political questions. I started watching when the war in Ukraine started but just realized his videos haven't been popping up for me on YT. I hope he is ok. Anyway, many of the people say they aren't political or have no opinion. I think part of that is that they don't want to get in trouble for answering, but I think part of it is that they are just checked out of the goings on of their government because they feel they can't do anything about it. While my first instinct is to check out and not pay any attention at all to what is happening, deep down I know that isn't good or realistic. I want this to be a one term Republican presidency with as little damage as possible. We need to be vigilant and remind people of what has changed over the next four years. However, finding a balance is important.
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Post by pinklady on Nov 7, 2024 22:21:05 GMT
These are not my words but sum up exactly how I feel except I've already said before, this great experiment has already failed.
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