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Post by crazy4scraps on Dec 12, 2024 18:22:46 GMT
So what's the difference between them and Trump's casinos??? Its the exact same thing...a bankruptcy is a bankruptcy. Business bankruptcies are so common that it almost borders on normal. Unless of course it was because of a medical catastrophe.That makes no difference whatsoever in the eyes of a lender. The companies made bad decisions and needed be bailed out. Trump made bad decisions and needed to be bailed out. That isn't success. Success is not making bad decisions and remaining profitable. Also paying your bills. If individuals declare bankruptcy because of outrageous medical bills due to an illness that was beyond their control, filing bankruptcy makes sense. Not to mention, most people don’t go bankrupt FOUR TIMES. And if they do, you would have to be an idiot yourself to keep giving them more money or credit.
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Post by huskergal on Dec 12, 2024 18:24:14 GMT
The companies made bad decisions and needed be bailed out. Trump made bad decisions and needed to be bailed out. That isn't success. Success is not making bad decisions and remaining profitable. Also paying your bills. If individuals declare bankruptcy because of outrageous medical bills due to an illness that was beyond their control, filing bankruptcy makes sense. Not to mention, most people don’t go bankrupt FOUR TIMES. And if they do, you would have to be an idiot yourself to keep giving them more money or credit. I'm guessing if said poster had to bail out a family member from debt 4 times, she probably wouldn't think they were successful. She would probably think they were making bad decisions.
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Post by onelasttime on Dec 12, 2024 18:31:11 GMT
They say a sucker is born every minute. These days their initials are. M A G A Aaron Rupar…. ”Trump in October: “This will rapidly drive prices down [...] It'll also bring your grocery bill way down.” Trump now: "It's hard to bring things down once they're up. You know, it's very hard." x.com/atrupar/status/1867237682943774972?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw
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Post by scrappinmama on Dec 12, 2024 18:33:42 GMT
I can't decide if MAGAs are just trolls or if they are really ignorant enough to believe what they say?
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Post by cindosha on Dec 12, 2024 18:51:42 GMT
Who gives a shit what she spent on/during her campaign?maybe the donors who donated thousands and millions of dollars to her campaign only for her to lose and be $20mil in debt afterward. 1. Doesn’t pay his bills.
2. Doesn’t give a shit about those who come to his rallies and the find themselves stranded.
3. Uses donar money to pay his legal bills.
all not true...but nice try. and its donEr Serious question. Are you really this ignorant or are you messing with us to get some giggles ? Please tell me you’re just messing with us. What is it about my answer that's tripping you up?
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Post by cindosha on Dec 12, 2024 18:55:03 GMT
Not to mention, most people don’t go bankrupt FOUR TIMES. And if they do, you would have to be an idiot yourself to keep giving them more money or credit. I'm guessing if said poster had to bail out a family member from debt 4 times, she probably wouldn't think they were successful. She would probably think they were making bad decisions. Businesses do all of the time. Some go bankrupt and reorganize under different names.
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Post by Zee on Dec 12, 2024 18:55:39 GMT
Serious question. Are you really this ignorant or are you messing with us to get some giggles ? Please tell me you’re just messing with us. What is it about my answer that's tripping you up? It's donOr
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Post by missmiss on Dec 12, 2024 19:07:57 GMT
Serious question. Are you really this ignorant or are you messing with us to get some giggles ? Please tell me you’re just messing with us. What is it about my answer that's tripping you up? Who gives a shit what she spent on/during her campaign? maybe the donors who donated thousands and millions of dollars to her campaign only for her to lose and be $20mil in debt afterward. - Many of the donors knew she could win or lose. That is the name of the game. Are some upset sure. I think it is crazy to spend that much honestly. 1. Doesn’t pay his bills. Quick and easy find Well this seems to be true: Who gives a shit what she spent on/during her campaign? maybe the donors who donated thousands and millions of dollars to her campaign only for her to lose and be $20mil in debt afterward. Thursday was Trump's first visit to Albuquerque in five years, after officials say he left an unpaid bill of $211,176 in public safety costs from his 2019 rally at the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, which is a part of the Albuquerque metropolitan area. Fast forward five years, the bill has now snowballed into $444,986 including interest over the years, according to the city of Albuquerque. abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-campaign-leaving-cities-hundreds-thousands-unpaid-bills/story?id=1154154552. Doesn’t give a shit about those who come to his rallies and the find themselves stranded. Another quick and easy searchc. “The management was so poorly done. It was so dangerous,” Dohaa the Explorer posted on his YouTube channel, adding that some attendees walked six miles to reach their cars rather than wait for the few buses that were still running. ktla.com/news/california/attendees-describe-absolute-chaos-after-trumps-southern-california-rally/3. Uses donor money to pay his legal bills. Another easy search Trump has spent campaign money to cover legal costs in seemingly all of the some two dozen proceedings he’s faced since leaving office. Some of these matters directly relate to his campaigns and actions as president, including the lawsuits, investigations, and state and federal prosecutions focused on efforts to overturn the 2020 election and his retention of classified documents after leaving office. However, other legal spending has gone toward purely personal matters that have nothing to do with Trump’s candidacy or time in office, such as the civil and criminal fraud probes into his business in New York. www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/trumps-use-campaign-funds-pay-legal-billsPlease tell me which one is not true. #1, or #2, or #3?  ??
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Post by cindosha on Dec 12, 2024 19:14:29 GMT
What is it about my answer that's tripping you up? It's donOr 
Just keeping you on your toes!!!
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Post by Zee on Dec 12, 2024 19:15:58 GMT

Just keeping you on your toes!!! Girl what you talking about I don't even HAVE heels that's how on my toes I am 🤣
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What is it about my answer that's tripping you up? Who gives a shit what she spent on/during her campaign? maybe the donors who donated thousands and millions of dollars to her campaign only for her to lose and be $20mil in debt afterward. - Many of the donors knew she could win or lose. That is the name of the game. Are some upset sure. I think it is crazy to spend that much honestly. 1. Doesn’t pay his bills. Quick and easy find Well this seems to be true: Who gives a shit what she spent on/during her campaign? maybe the donors who donated thousands and millions of dollars to her campaign only for her to lose and be $20mil in debt afterward. Thursday was Trump's first visit to Albuquerque in five years, after officials say he left an unpaid bill of $211,176 in public safety costs from his 2019 rally at the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, which is a part of the Albuquerque metropolitan area. Fast forward five years, the bill has now snowballed into $444,986 including interest over the years, according to the city of Albuquerque. abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-campaign-leaving-cities-hundreds-thousands-unpaid-bills/story?id=1154154552. Doesn’t give a shit about those who come to his rallies and the find themselves stranded. Another quick and easy searchc. “The management was so poorly done. It was so dangerous,” Dohaa the Explorer posted on his YouTube channel, adding that some attendees walked six miles to reach their cars rather than wait for the few buses that were still running. ktla.com/news/california/attendees-describe-absolute-chaos-after-trumps-southern-california-rally/3. Uses donor money to pay his legal bills. Another easy search Trump has spent campaign money to cover legal costs in seemingly all of the some two dozen proceedings he’s faced since leaving office. Some of these matters directly relate to his campaigns and actions as president, including the lawsuits, investigations, and state and federal prosecutions focused on efforts to overturn the 2020 election and his retention of classified documents after leaving office. However, other legal spending has gone toward purely personal matters that have nothing to do with Trump’s candidacy or time in office, such as the civil and criminal fraud probes into his business in New York. www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/trumps-use-campaign-funds-pay-legal-billsPlease tell me which one is not true. #1, or #2, or #3?  ?? 1. www.koat.com/article/albuquerque-donald-trump-security-bill/62778446A city official sent an email to Target 7 saying, “The city does not typically bill dignitaries who are visiting in an official capacity. Historically, we have billed for extreme use of resources and services, such as Trump's 2019 visit that shut down City Hall and required additional barricading downtown. We will continue to bill campaigns that demand excess time or equipment.” A broader trend shows that cities nationwide are increasingly billing campaigns for security expenses, though not all bills are settled. According to a 2019 report from the Center for Public Integrity, nine cities, including El Paso, Texas; and Billings, Montana, have issued invoices to Trump for a collective $800,000. Other campaigns, such as those of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, have also been billed, though records show payment is often inconsistent. Sen. Bernie Sanders at one point had 23 unpaid bills, the study showed.2. ktla.com/news/california/attendees-describe-absolute-chaos-after-trumps-southern-california-rally/ sounds like the bus company took it upon themselves to leave the event. That was completely unfortunate.
3. www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/03/27/us/politics/trump-cases-legal-fund.htmlThe more than $100 million in legal spending since leaving office does not include spending from Mr. Trump's 2024 campaign, which has not paid for his personal legal bills. The use of donations to pay for his personal lawyers has been allowed under federal rules.
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Post by onelasttime on Dec 12, 2024 19:42:04 GMT
Well she does have a point…. Art Candee…. ”Donald Trump on cargo ships and containers: "You know, for 17 years, I saw containers and, you know, they'd come off and they'd be taken away—big areas, you know, you know, in that area, you know, where they have the big, the big ships coming in—big, the port. And I'd see this for years as I was out there inspecting property and things, because they own a lot in California. And I look down and I see containers that are, that are 12, 13, 14 containers. You wouldn't believe they can hold each other. It's like crazy." Senile fool. 🤦♀️” x.com/artcandee/status/1867262585747190048?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nw
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Post by huskergal on Dec 12, 2024 20:49:15 GMT
I'm guessing if said poster had to bail out a family member from debt 4 times, she probably wouldn't think they were successful. She would probably think they were making bad decisions. Businesses do all of the time. Some go bankrupt and reorganize under different names. Deflection #3
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Dec 12, 2024 20:56:16 GMT
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Post by cindosha on Dec 12, 2024 21:02:40 GMT
Businesses do all of the time. Some go bankrupt and reorganize under different names. Deflection #3 It’s not deflecting. Nothing I said about it is wrong. It’s just two different things. It’s incredible to me that you can’t accept another point of view. That’s all it is. A different viewpoint.
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Post by missmiss on Dec 12, 2024 21:05:54 GMT
Who gives a shit what she spent on/during her campaign? maybe the donors who donated thousands and millions of dollars to her campaign only for her to lose and be $20mil in debt afterward. - Many of the donors knew she could win or lose. That is the name of the game. Are some upset sure. I think it is crazy to spend that much honestly. 1. Doesn’t pay his bills. Quick and easy find Well this seems to be true: Who gives a shit what she spent on/during her campaign? maybe the donors who donated thousands and millions of dollars to her campaign only for her to lose and be $20mil in debt afterward. Thursday was Trump's first visit to Albuquerque in five years, after officials say he left an unpaid bill of $211,176 in public safety costs from his 2019 rally at the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, which is a part of the Albuquerque metropolitan area. Fast forward five years, the bill has now snowballed into $444,986 including interest over the years, according to the city of Albuquerque. abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-campaign-leaving-cities-hundreds-thousands-unpaid-bills/story?id=1154154552. Doesn’t give a shit about those who come to his rallies and the find themselves stranded. Another quick and easy searchc. “The management was so poorly done. It was so dangerous,” Dohaa the Explorer posted on his YouTube channel, adding that some attendees walked six miles to reach their cars rather than wait for the few buses that were still running. ktla.com/news/california/attendees-describe-absolute-chaos-after-trumps-southern-california-rally/3. Uses donor money to pay his legal bills. Another easy search Trump has spent campaign money to cover legal costs in seemingly all of the some two dozen proceedings he’s faced since leaving office. Some of these matters directly relate to his campaigns and actions as president, including the lawsuits, investigations, and state and federal prosecutions focused on efforts to overturn the 2020 election and his retention of classified documents after leaving office. However, other legal spending has gone toward purely personal matters that have nothing to do with Trump’s candidacy or time in office, such as the civil and criminal fraud probes into his business in New York. www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/trumps-use-campaign-funds-pay-legal-billsPlease tell me which one is not true. #1, or #2, or #3?  ?? 1. www.koat.com/article/albuquerque-donald-trump-security-bill/62778446A city official sent an email to Target 7 saying, “The city does not typically bill dignitaries who are visiting in an official capacity. Historically, we have billed for extreme use of resources and services, such as Trump's 2019 visit that shut down City Hall and required additional barricading downtown. We will continue to bill campaigns that demand excess time or equipment.” A broader trend shows that cities nationwide are increasingly billing campaigns for security expenses, though not all bills are settled. According to a 2019 report from the Center for Public Integrity, nine cities, including El Paso, Texas; and Billings, Montana, have issued invoices to Trump for a collective $800,000. Other campaigns, such as those of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, have also been billed, though records show payment is often inconsistent. Sen. Bernie Sanders at one point had 23 unpaid bills, the study showed.2. ktla.com/news/california/attendees-describe-absolute-chaos-after-trumps-southern-california-rally/ sounds like the bus company took it upon themselves to leave the event. That was completely unfortunate.
3. www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/03/27/us/politics/trump-cases-legal-fund.htmlThe more than $100 million in legal spending since leaving office does not include spending from Mr. Trump's 2024 campaign, which has not paid for his personal legal bills. The use of donations to pay for his personal lawyers has been allowed under federal rules.#1 Thank you for pointing that out. They all suck for that! Now from what I know though Trump is the only one out of the group that does hate to pay his bills though. theweek.com/articles/783976/brief-history-trumps-smalltime-swindles#2. So that was in CA darn bus company. What about all the other places? For Example: www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/hundreds-trump-supporters-stuck-freezing-cold-omaha-airfield-after-rally-n1245065 For some reason if it went bad in one place wouldn't you want to make sure it went smoothly the next time? This does fall on the Trump Campaign as they hired the company. And in CA I would stop bussing people too if they became violent. #3 Does it even matter? Just because it is "legal" doesn't make it right. But hey I understand you look past all of this because you know......... You love the Orange Turd.
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Post by huskergal on Dec 12, 2024 21:15:44 GMT
It’s not deflecting. Nothing I said about it is wrong. It’s just two different things. It’s incredible to me that you can’t accept another point of view. That’s all it is. A different viewpoint. So you think Trump is a successful businessman who makes good decisions even though he has declared bankruptcy 4 times? You think a person who can't pay their credit card bills and declare bankruptcy are successful and make good decisions?
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Dec 12, 2024 21:24:47 GMT
3. Uses donor money to pay his legal bills. Another easy search Trump has spent campaign money to cover legal costs in seemingly all of the some two dozen proceedings he’s faced since leaving office. Some of these matters directly relate to his campaigns and actions as president, including the lawsuits, investigations, and state and federal prosecutions focused on efforts to overturn the 2020 election and his retention of classified documents after leaving office. However, other legal spending has gone toward purely personal matters that have nothing to do with Trump’s candidacy or time in office, such as the civil and criminal fraud probes into his business in New York. www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/trumps-use-campaign-funds-pay-legal-billsI think that the RNC was paying many of his legal bills from funds they collected from donors .. They just redirected it.
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Post by scrappinmama on Dec 12, 2024 21:55:46 GMT
They say a sucker is born every minute. These days their initials are. M A G A Aaron Rupar…. ”Trump in October: “This will rapidly drive prices down [...] It'll also bring your grocery bill way down.” Trump now: "It's hard to bring things down once they're up. You know, it's very hard." x.com/atrupar/status/1867237682943774972?s=61&t=j45uMgNk1i8O0YllKF58nwI mean we all knew this. Well, except for Trumpers. They believe anything the man says, even though he is the biggest liar and fraud around.
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Post by cindosha on Dec 12, 2024 22:20:08 GMT
It’s not deflecting. Nothing I said about it is wrong. It’s just two different things. It’s incredible to me that you can’t accept another point of view. That’s all it is. A different viewpoint. So you think Trump is a successful businessman who makes good decisions even though he has declared bankruptcy 4 times? You think a person who can't pay their credit card bills and declare bankruptcy are successful and make good decisions? Yes, I think that anyone that is worth billions because of his business dealings is a successful businessman. Is every mega million empire without its problems? Absolutely not. Are bad decisions made in businesses? Absolutely. Do I think that Trump pays for business dealings with a credit card? No I don’t. But he is still successful, and has been for decades, as much as you don’t want him to be. I also think that regular people who file for bankruptcy do so for a variety of reasons. Do some people spend recklessly and stupidly and end up having to file? Yes. Do I think that that person made good decisions? Probably not, but who am I to judge them for that. Do some people work hard all of their lives, live within their means and through no fault of their own have to file bankruptcy? Also yes. If someone has had to put medical debt on a credit card for example, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they didn’t make good decisions and it doesn’t mean that they can’t be successful after their bankruptcy.
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Post by mollycoddle on Dec 12, 2024 22:49:54 GMT
So you think Trump is a successful businessman who makes good decisions even though he has declared bankruptcy 4 times? You think a person who can't pay their credit card bills and declare bankruptcy are successful and make good decisions? Yes, I think that anyone that is worth billions because of his business dealings is a successful businessman. Is every mega million empire without its problems? Absolutely not. Are bad decisions made in businesses? Absolutely. Do I think that Trump pays for business dealings with a credit card? No I don’t. But he is still successful, and has been for decades, as much as you don’t want him to be. I also think that regular people who file for bankruptcy do so for a variety of reasons. Do some people spend recklessly and stupidly and end up having to file? Yes. Do I think that that person made good decisions? Probably not, but who am I to judge them for that. Do some people work hard all of their lives, live within their means and through no fault of their own have to file bankruptcy? Also yes. If someone has had to put medical debt on a credit card for example, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they didn’t make good decisions and it doesn’t mean that they can’t be successful after their bankruptcy. But filing multiple times? How do you square that? If I were hiring a financial advisor, but heard that he had filed-what, 4 times-for bankruptcy, I would not hire that person. The president has a position of great responsibility. It is inconceivable to me that our next President is a serial debtor.
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Post by Merge on Dec 12, 2024 23:58:24 GMT
Yes, I think that anyone that is worth billions because of his business dealings is a successful businessman. Is every mega million empire without its problems? Absolutely not. Are bad decisions made in businesses? Absolutely. Do I think that Trump pays for business dealings with a credit card? No I don’t. But he is still successful, and has been for decades, as much as you don’t want him to be. I also think that regular people who file for bankruptcy do so for a variety of reasons. Do some people spend recklessly and stupidly and end up having to file? Yes. Do I think that that person made good decisions? Probably not, but who am I to judge them for that. Do some people work hard all of their lives, live within their means and through no fault of their own have to file bankruptcy? Also yes. If someone has had to put medical debt on a credit card for example, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they didn’t make good decisions and it doesn’t mean that they can’t be successful after their bankruptcy. But filing multiple times? How do you square that? If I were hiring a financial advisor, but heard that he had filed-what, 4 times-for bankruptcy, I would not hire that person. The president has a position of great responsibility. It is inconceivable to me that our next President is a serial debtor. My husband is part owner of a mid-sized business. I can guarantee you that if they had to file bankruptcy, none of us would consider that success. Sometimes it can be the least bad choice out of several bad choices. That doesn’t make it success.
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Post by cindosha on Dec 13, 2024 0:03:04 GMT
Yes, I think that anyone that is worth billions because of his business dealings is a successful businessman. Is every mega million empire without its problems? Absolutely not. Are bad decisions made in businesses? Absolutely. Do I think that Trump pays for business dealings with a credit card? No I don’t. But he is still successful, and has been for decades, as much as you don’t want him to be. I also think that regular people who file for bankruptcy do so for a variety of reasons. Do some people spend recklessly and stupidly and end up having to file? Yes. Do I think that that person made good decisions? Probably not, but who am I to judge them for that. Do some people work hard all of their lives, live within their means and through no fault of their own have to file bankruptcy? Also yes. If someone has had to put medical debt on a credit card for example, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they didn’t make good decisions and it doesn’t mean that they can’t be successful after their bankruptcy. But filing multiple times? How do you square that? If I were hiring a financial advisor, but heard that he had filed-what, 4 times-for bankruptcy, I would not hire that person. The president has a position of great responsibility. It is inconceivable to me that our next President is a serial debtor. I don’t square that. It’s not mine to square and it’s not yours to square. It’s no different than harris burning through $1.5 billion in three months and coming out $20 million in the red. The president has a position of great responsibility. Including fiscal. Thank God she wasn’t elected because that would’ve been the norm with her administration. And I know that because her/bidens administration already has us trillions in debt.
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But filing multiple times? How do you square that? If I were hiring a financial advisor, but heard that he had filed-what, 4 times-for bankruptcy, I would not hire that person. The president has a position of great responsibility. It is inconceivable to me that our next President is a serial debtor. My husband is part owner of a mid-sized business. I can guarantee you that if they had to file bankruptcy, none of us would consider that success. Sometimes it can be the least bad choice out of several bad choices. That doesn’t make it success. Those bankruptcies were between 15 and 35 years ago. Why do you have such a boner today about them?? Perhaps you should read this article from September. That should explain things for you from a business standpoint. Donald Trump, the current frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, has come under fire from both the media and the other candidates for his business record. Although Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy, he has reportedly filed for business bankruptcy at least four times. Trump responded to the criticism by arguing that businesses often have to file for bankruptcy and that filing for bankruptcy was a financially sound move each time he did it. In fact, during the September 16 Republican debate, Trump observed that “hundreds of companies” have done the same thing. PolitiFact, the Tampa Bay Times’ award-winning fact-checking blog, recently analyzed the claims, from both sides, about Donald Trump’s business bankruptcies in an article straightforwardly titled “Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump’s four bankruptcies.” The website found that there is validity to many of Trump’s points about business bankruptcy being in the best interests of companies. Trump has filed for business bankruptcy four times: the Trump Taj Mahal in 1991, Trump Plaza Hotel in 1992, Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts in 2004 and Trump Entertainment Resorts in 2009. Each time, the bankruptcy was a Chapter 11 filing. While Chapter 7 and Chapter 13 bankruptcy deal with personal bankruptcies, Chapter 11 is most often used by businesses filing for bankruptcy. Chapter 11 bankruptcy allows a financially struggling business to reorganize in order to keep going. A Chapter 11 filing can potentially enable a business owner to avoid liquidating the company. In fact, it can often be said that a Chapter 11 bankruptcy is in the best interests of the business and in no way a reflection of a poorly run company. PolitiFact took a look at all four of Trump’s Chapter 11 bankruptcies and determined that they were a result of business struggles largely beyond the billionaire-turned-presidential-candidate’s control.
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Post by Merge on Dec 13, 2024 0:15:09 GMT
 In this century, the national debt has risen less under Democratic presidents than under Republican ones over the same amount of time.
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My husband is part owner of a mid-sized business. I can guarantee you that if they had to file bankruptcy, none of us would consider that success. Sometimes it can be the least bad choice out of several bad choices. That doesn’t make it success. Those bankruptcies were between 15 and 35 years ago. Why do you have such a boner today about them?? Perhaps you should read this article from September. That should explain things for you from a business standpoint. Donald Trump, the current frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, has come under fire from both the media and the other candidates for his business record. Although Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy, he has reportedly filed for business bankruptcy at least four times. Trump responded to the criticism by arguing that businesses often have to file for bankruptcy and that filing for bankruptcy was a financially sound move each time he did it. In fact, during the September 16 Republican debate, Trump observed that “hundreds of companies” have done the same thing. PolitiFact, the Tampa Bay Times’ award-winning fact-checking blog, recently analyzed the claims, from both sides, about Donald Trump’s business bankruptcies in an article straightforwardly titled “Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump’s four bankruptcies.” The website found that there is validity to many of Trump’s points about business bankruptcy being in the best interests of companies. Trump has filed for business bankruptcy four times: the Trump Taj Mahal in 1991, Trump Plaza Hotel in 1992, Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts in 2004 and Trump Entertainment Resorts in 2009. Each time, the bankruptcy was a Chapter 11 filing. While Chapter 7 and Chapter 13 bankruptcy deal with personal bankruptcies, Chapter 11 is most often used by businesses filing for bankruptcy. Chapter 11 bankruptcy allows a financially struggling business to reorganize in order to keep going. A Chapter 11 filing can potentially enable a business owner to avoid liquidating the company. In fact, it can often be said that a Chapter 11 bankruptcy is in the best interests of the business and in no way a reflection of a poorly run company. PolitiFact took a look at all four of Trump’s Chapter 11 bankruptcies and determined that they were a result of business struggles largely beyond the billionaire-turned-presidential-candidate’s control. What’s the source of the article? As I said, bankruptcy can be the least bad of several bad options. That doesn’t make it a marker of a successful business. You might want to read this one: www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election-2016-486091.htmlAnd ask yourself why, if he’s totally telling the truth, he’s never released his tax returns.
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Post by cindosha on Dec 13, 2024 0:22:50 GMT
Those bankruptcies were between 15 and 35 years ago. Why do you have such a boner today about them?? Perhaps you should read this article from September. That should explain things for you from a business standpoint. Donald Trump, the current frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, has come under fire from both the media and the other candidates for his business record. Although Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy, he has reportedly filed for business bankruptcy at least four times. Trump responded to the criticism by arguing that businesses often have to file for bankruptcy and that filing for bankruptcy was a financially sound move each time he did it. In fact, during the September 16 Republican debate, Trump observed that “hundreds of companies” have done the same thing. PolitiFact, the Tampa Bay Times’ award-winning fact-checking blog, recently analyzed the claims, from both sides, about Donald Trump’s business bankruptcies in an article straightforwardly titled “Fact-checking claims about Donald Trump’s four bankruptcies.” The website found that there is validity to many of Trump’s points about business bankruptcy being in the best interests of companies. Trump has filed for business bankruptcy four times: the Trump Taj Mahal in 1991, Trump Plaza Hotel in 1992, Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts in 2004 and Trump Entertainment Resorts in 2009. Each time, the bankruptcy was a Chapter 11 filing. While Chapter 7 and Chapter 13 bankruptcy deal with personal bankruptcies, Chapter 11 is most often used by businesses filing for bankruptcy. Chapter 11 bankruptcy allows a financially struggling business to reorganize in order to keep going. A Chapter 11 filing can potentially enable a business owner to avoid liquidating the company. In fact, it can often be said that a Chapter 11 bankruptcy is in the best interests of the business and in no way a reflection of a poorly run company. PolitiFact took a look at all four of Trump’s Chapter 11 bankruptcies and determined that they were a result of business struggles largely beyond the billionaire-turned-presidential-candidate’s control. What’s the source of the article? As I said, bankruptcy can be the least bad of several bad options. That doesn’t make it a marker of a successful business. www.abi.org/feed-item/examining-donald-trump’s-chapter-11-bankruptcies
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Post by Merge on Dec 13, 2024 0:24:10 GMT
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Post by cindosha on Dec 13, 2024 0:27:52 GMT
It works when I click on it in the post.
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