artbabe
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Post by artbabe on Jan 5, 2025 15:21:10 GMT
Do you think he oversaturated the market? I think it was hard to keep up with all of the new products/colors that kept coming out.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jan 5, 2025 15:55:04 GMT
I think he found a path and stayed on it, never venturing off that path....meaning same kind of merchandise, over and over and over.
He has a huge fan base and groupies, which made his success last for the long term.
That is one thing about the scrapbooking industry.....followers and groupies are plentiful.
Many companies, many designers, etc... do that >> once the have a popular item or defined style..... they do not stray far from it, they don't change it. It become very repetitive....which leads to oversaturation.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 5, 2025 17:28:58 GMT
I'm just over here laughing at all the kiss butt replies to his IG post. My gosh people, get off of him already.
I'm not a TH fan and only have 2 of his products - Halloween dies that I feel work without being distressed to death.
I hope his fans are truly okay because my gosh they are a little scary to me lol
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 5, 2025 17:30:00 GMT
It would be cool if through playing and doing if TH found a new passion and a new idea. He really did oversaturate the market and I am sure got totally bored of it all.
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Post by mom on Jan 5, 2025 17:45:12 GMT
So I think this is a combo of several things. I dont know that he is has over run the market, but I do think there are a bunch of products out right now that people have zero clue how to use unless they have time to watch tons of you tube videos to see how others work with it. I also think he truly *is* burned out on the never ending 'create products cycle' and he's choosing to regain his time (Ali could learn something from this, IMHO). But I also think he's reading the room re: the economy -- people can't spend $$$$ like they used to. But if he teaches people how to use what they already have (and what they can easily get their hands on in store), then there's a better chance of people wanting to use his products more and in turn, they will repurchase products they loved using. There is also the issue of getting products from China with tariffs, etc. IMHO his products are already a luxury item and any increase is just going to reduce those who can/will afford them.
FWIW, I do not think this is *actually* the end. I think it's the end for right now but I can absolutely see where he will come back in a few years and do a limited release of something when he's more refreshed creatively, the market is better, etc.
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Post by pantsonfire on Jan 5, 2025 18:41:37 GMT
So I think this is a combo of several things. I dont know that he is has over run the market, but I do think there are a bunch of products out right now that people have zero clue how to use unless they have time to watch tons of you tube videos to see how others work with it. I also think he truly *is* burned out on the never ending 'create products cycle' and he's choosing to regain his time (Ali could learn something from this, IMHO). But I also think he's reading the room re: the economy -- people can't spend $$$$ like they used to. But if he teaches people how to use what they already have (and what they can easily get their hands on in store), then there's a better chance of people wanting to use his products more and in turn, they will repurchase products they loved using. There is also the issue of getting products from China with tariffs, etc. IMHO his products are already a luxury item and any increase is just going to reduce those who can/will afford them. FWIW, I do not think this is *actually* the end. I think it's the end for right now but I can absolutely see where he will come back in a few years and do a limited release of something when he's more refreshed creatively, the market is better, etc. Yes, very good points and I also was thinking he may be prepping himself and his loyal followers for what could possibly come in the next 4 years. By staying relevant and still put himself out there, he will still keep his followers and they will still engage. With lack of new products, IF he decided to manufacture again, they will be ready and willing. |
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Post by marg on Jan 5, 2025 18:43:48 GMT
I still have to watch the video - but no new products for all the companies he works with?
I do hope he continues his demos, I love watching his lives on Saturdays while I work on my paper crafts.
At least this break (if it is a break and not permanent) will give me a chance to finally finish all of the projects I have half-completed, and the dozen or so I have on my Wishlist to make. His design team was really, really inspirational to me.
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Post by Texas Scrap on Jan 5, 2025 19:44:32 GMT
So I think this is a combo of several things. I dont know that he is has over run the market, but I do think there are a bunch of products out right now that people have zero clue how to use unless they have time to watch tons of you tube videos to see how others work with it. I also think he truly *is* burned out on the never ending 'create products cycle' and he's choosing to regain his time (Ali could learn something from this, IMHO). But I also think he's reading the room re: the economy -- people can't spend $$$$ like they used to. But if he teaches people how to use what they already have (and what they can easily get their hands on in store), then there's a better chance of people wanting to use his products more and in turn, they will repurchase products they loved using. There is also the issue of getting products from China with tariffs, etc. IMHO his products are already a luxury item and any increase is just going to reduce those who can/will afford them. FWIW, I do not think this is *actually* the end. I think it's the end for right now but I can absolutely see where he will come back in a few years and do a limited release of something when he's more refreshed creatively, the market is better, etc. Yes, very good points and I also was thinking he may be prepping himself and his loyal followers for what could possibly come in the next 4 years. By staying relevant and still put himself out there, he will still keep his followers and they will still engage. With lack of new products, IF he decided to manufacture again, they will be ready and willing. I agree and if they keep making the current products and people get inspired on how to use them, I think he can continue to have a pretty nice income stream! I know I just discovered his Blueprint stamps last year and bought some more this year, but only bc I saw someone on Insta using them. I would never have used the distress inks if Heidi Swapp had not been using them constantly with her stamps. And then the DIY stamp pads you can create - again would not have known about those until HS showed people how to use them. I really think that his product lines have so much ongoing potential if he himself and gets other creators to use them in new and interesting ways. I think people will want to use "what they have" but if they like the products, they will also replenish. |
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Post by katlady on Jan 5, 2025 20:35:09 GMT
Maybe this is his step towards “retirement”. He’s been doing this for over 20 years. I would say he is in his 50’s. He did have a career in the restaurant industry before designing. And then he did have open heart surgery a few years ago. Maybe he felt like slowing down. He has designed so many great products. Now he can concentrate on the creative side by doing demos.
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Post by coloradocropper on Jan 6, 2025 1:03:16 GMT
I'm actually a little relieved for my pocketbook! I don't have every product of his with the exception of the distress and oxide inks. I definitely pick and choose what fits my style. I will say that I met him in Texas once and he was very nice. I like nice people so I'm a fan.
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Post by Embri on Jan 6, 2025 1:18:59 GMT
Good! I'm so tired of the non-stop-buy-and-purge mentality being pushed at every corner.
More use what you have, less "here's the latest product from X, oh my gosh isn't it fabulous and exactly like the last dozen sets but we can't mention that because they're paying me in product to make this video". Sorry if I'm sounding salty today, but I was in a rare crafty video mood yesterday and I could not find a SINGLE one that wasn't pushing product, clickbait or making the same thing I've already seen 9,000x times before. I'm starting to think what I want to watch simply doesn't exist out there.  |
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Post by marg on Jan 6, 2025 1:49:03 GMT
I'm actually a little relieved for my pocketbook! I don't have every product of his with the exception of the distress and oxide inks. I definitely pick and choose what fits my style. I will say that I met him in Texas once and he was very nice. I like nice people so I'm a fan. That's very cool, I like nice people, too. I'm always happy to read about good experiences with the people who make the products we buy. I don't have even a small percentage of his products, except for the inks, as well, but I enjoy what he does and the different products and style he offers the industry. It will be nice to watch more videos on how to use his stuff, I can't imagine how hard it is to come up with new stuff several times a year, year after year. It would be so hard to go through a slump, as we've seen many creators do. |
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Post by pocketaddict on Jan 6, 2025 3:00:48 GMT
oh no, I was really really hoping he would come out with a long-reach tiny attacher. (how has no one already done this.. come on we R).
and yes I know I can take apart the small one to do it into a self-healing mat and then fold back the tines but I don't want to --- I want him to come out with a long reach tiny attacher!! 😭
(and also a rerun of his "holiday small talk" stickers -- the best one and most versatile.)
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Post by joblackford on Jan 6, 2025 4:03:31 GMT
Yes, very good points and I also was thinking he may be prepping himself and his loyal followers for what could possibly come in the next 4 years. By staying relevant and still put himself out there, he will still keep his followers and they will still engage. With lack of new products, IF he decided to manufacture again, they will be ready and willing. I agree and if they keep making the current products and people get inspired on how to use them, I think he can continue to have a pretty nice income stream! I know I just discovered his Blueprint stamps last year and bought some more this year, but only bc I saw someone on Insta using them. I would never have used the distress inks if Heidi Swapp had not been using them constantly with her stamps. And then the DIY stamp pads you can create - again would not have known about those until HS showed people how to use them. I really think that his product lines have so much ongoing potential if he himself and gets other creators to use them in new and interesting ways. I think people will want to use "what they have" but if they like the products, they will also replenish. I haven’t watched the video but I do remember him saying that Stampers Anonymous had committed to keeping all of his stamp products in stock and in production in the USA (iirc) so yes, he could maintain a nice income stream just by showing people how to use older products. Many of his other products are readily available online and in stores, if not exactly the same items (like ephemera) certainly close enough to inspire people to shop. And I’m constantly amazed at how many people watch his live streams but don’t know that Distress is intended for distress-y techniques, not perfect detailed stamping. |
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Post by honeypea on Jan 6, 2025 16:51:35 GMT
oh no, I was really really hoping he would come out with a long-reach tiny attacher. (how has no one already done this.. come on we R). and yes I know I can take apart the small one to do it into a self-healing mat and then fold back the tines but I don't want to --- I want him to come out with a long reach tiny attacher!! 😭 (and also a rerun of his "holiday small talk" stickers -- the best one and most versatile.) I got turned off him eons ago when watching a video of him responding to his fawning fans in a really condescending snide way (they didn’t seem to notice), and it soured me on him ever since. I can count the TH product I own on one hand. BUT I WOULD OPEN MY WALLET SO FAST FOR A LONG REACH TINY ATTACHER!!!! I never even knew I wanted this so bad until you just described it. Thanks a lot. 😂 |
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craftgranny
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Post by craftgranny on Jan 6, 2025 17:41:57 GMT
I feel Tim's decision to step back from making new product is actually brilliant. I'm happy that he will be demoing, doing Saturday lives using the products that are out there. He stated that the manufacturers will continue to make product until it stops selling like any normal manufacturer or retailer does. Think about all the products that Tim has i.e. Inks, Pastes, glues, alcohol inks, crayons, Dies, Fabric, jewelry, ideaology which has papers, charms, ephemera and more, plus 500 sets of stamps. New stuff will come out this year as it was designed a year in advance. Who knows, he could come back in a year with limited edition products. I like Tim Holtz products because they appeal to my type of design. I'm happy for Tim and wish him nothing but success in his new chapter of life.
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paget
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Post by paget on Jan 6, 2025 20:34:12 GMT
oh no, I was really really hoping he would come out with a long-reach tiny attacher. (how has no one already done this.. come on we R). and yes I know I can take apart the small one to do it into a self-healing mat and then fold back the tines but I don't want to --- I want him to come out with a long reach tiny attacher!! 😭 (and also a rerun of his "holiday small talk" stickers -- the best one and most versatile.) I was just thinking about a long reach tiny attacher this weekend and wondering why no one was making one! |
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Post by papersilly on Jan 6, 2025 22:14:18 GMT
i think the manufacturers are stepping back from the new products and not so much him. the past few years they have been mixing new with old. i have been buying less because i already have lots of the old and the new wasn't drastically different. with all of his products that i have hoarded with every new release, i know i'm good for many many years to come. i hope he continues to do demonstrations though because he's very good at it. no one can stir up a buying frenzy like him.
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Post by papersilly on Jan 6, 2025 22:17:38 GMT
oh no, I was really really hoping he would come out with a long-reach tiny attacher. (how has no one already done this.. come on we R). speaking of that attacher, i have to admit it's one of my favorite tools. i've had many kinds of tiny staples and most of them have jammed over time. not his attacher. that thing is actually reliable. that reminds me, i need more staples... |
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Post by 950nancy on Jan 7, 2025 2:35:58 GMT
Maybe he just needed a break. He's a real person. Not a god, a star, a miracle worker. He's a person. Maybe he's tired. Sometimes coming up with new stuff means taking a break from it all and listening to yourself just think.
I have a few of his things. I do love his animal dies. May he just have time to enjoy the process and do what the rest of us do with his stuff.
Some people in scrapbooking world (the fans) really need to take a step back. They put too much pressure on their favorites to create and produce. I feel like this when I see Shimelle, Janet from RTS, and Tim Holtz. The comments on the videos can just become ridiculous.
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Post by hoopsfn on Jan 7, 2025 17:04:01 GMT
He seems like a nice person and he is excellent at demonstrating his (and others') products. I hope he does stay involved in the industry and will still enjoy his work.
And I agree with lots of you: this will be so nice for my small budget.
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Post by bc2ca on Jan 7, 2025 20:03:09 GMT
I missed this, but follow Paula Cheney (who designs for him) and saw her IG announcement that she is stepping away. She is the reason for the majority of my stash of Tim Holtz products. As long as they keep demoing and creating with what is still being produced, I'll be happy. |
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Post by refugeepea on Jan 7, 2025 22:07:14 GMT
It makes sense. It seems like he's done a lot of inks. I haven't paid much attention to his other products.
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Post by joblackford on Jan 8, 2025 1:04:11 GMT
I still have to watch the video - but no new products for all the companies he works with? I do hope he continues his demos, I love watching his lives on Saturdays while I work on my paper crafts. At least this break (if it is a break and not permanent) will give me a catch to finally finish all of the projects I have half-completed, and the dozen or so I have on my Wishlist to make. His design team was really, really inspirational to me. I’m just watching the video now to get all the details. The only releases will be the products and ideas that are already in the pipeline (they design up to a year out, so there will be some new things in 2025), rereleases of older things, or maybe a rare idea that he’d had but was not technically possible until Ranger figured it out. Things that are popular and selling well will continue to be available, but that’s never been up to him. The brands decide that. He will still be doing demos and lives but they’ll be based on what he wants to do, not what the new release schedule dictates. So they may be more timely - like Halloween in fall, not August - and a mixture of products including old stuff that might be retired. That sounds great to me! He’s getting out before he completely burns out, which I think is really smart. The Tim Holtz brand, blog, YT, etc etc will still exist, and he gets to play with the stuff he enjoys, being creative, and educating. |
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Post by katieanna on Jan 8, 2025 17:43:50 GMT
The only releases will be the products and ideas that are already in the pipeline (they design up to a year out, so there will be some new things in 2025), rereleases of older things, or maybe a rare idea that he’d had but was not technically possible until Ranger figured it out. Things that are popular and selling well will continue to be available, but that’s never been up to him. The brands decide that. He will still be doing demos and lives but they’ll be based on what he wants to do, not what the new release schedule dictates. So they may be more timely - like Halloween in fall, not August - and a mixture of products including old stuff that might be retired. That sounds great to me! He’s getting out before he completely burns out, which I think is really smart. The Tim Holtz brand, blog, YT, etc etc will still exist, and he gets to play with the stuff he enjoys, being creative, and educating. Sounds good. Thanks for checking and posting the update. |
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Post by songbird on Jan 11, 2025 5:14:49 GMT
My husband was pretty excited (jokingly) when he heard the announcement. I will miss the Christmas releases the most because I love vintage Christmas, and he definitely has that dialed in for my personal preference…except any of the lost relatives or paper dolls. Those creep me out because that’s someone’s actual ancestor(s).
I do not blame him for stepping back. I’m amazed that he’s been able to keep at it as long as he has with all of the different companies and products.
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Post by mrssch on Jan 12, 2025 14:53:19 GMT
I’m not mad that he stepped away. Everyone has to do what’s best for them.
I admit that I got caught up in the frenzy of purchasing all of the Tim Holtz products - even though I cannot stand the chaos of mixed media.
I like his dies, stamps, Inks and oxides- Just not all over the place.
My goal is to incorporate his products into my style. I’m not sure his tutorials will lean towards a clean style, but I would like to know more about how to use what I have.
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Post by marg on Jan 12, 2025 16:22:04 GMT
The only releases will be the products and ideas that are already in the pipeline (they design up to a year out, so there will be some new things in 2025), rereleases of older things, or maybe a rare idea that he’d had but was not technically possible until Ranger figured it out. Things that are popular and selling well will continue to be available, but that’s never been up to him. The brands decide that. He will still be doing demos and lives but they’ll be based on what he wants to do, not what the new release schedule dictates. So they may be more timely - like Halloween in fall, not August - and a mixture of products including old stuff that might be retired. That sounds great to me! He’s getting out before he completely burns out, which I think is really smart. The Tim Holtz brand, blog, YT, etc etc will still exist, and he gets to play with the stuff he enjoys, being creative, and educating. Sounds good. Thanks for checking and posting the update. Yes, thank you for posting the details from the video. I'm excited for 2025. I like the idea of him doing more timely lives, like Halloween stuff actually at Halloween. I personally never finish my Halloween or Christmas projects before the holiday itself, I prefer to work on them during that time period and soak in all the feelings of each respective holiday. I've been working on a couple of Christmas projects every Christmas break for the past 3 years, hopefully next year they'll finally be done! |
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Post by amysolovay on Feb 22, 2025 2:16:32 GMT
Wait! What?
Am I reading this right? No more new Tim Holtz products aside from anything that was already in the pipeline?
I hope Tim is okay, and I'm glad for him if he is indeed pulling back in order to focus on what he really wants to be doing. If so, that's an enviable place to be.
But that said, I'll definitely miss seeing new colors on the Distress Oxides. I love those and really looked forward to those releases.
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Post by joblackford on Feb 22, 2025 3:25:27 GMT
Wait! What? Am I reading this right? No more new Tim Holtz products aside from anything that was already in the pipeline? I hope Tim is okay, and I'm glad for him if he is indeed pulling back in order to focus on what he really wants to be doing. If so, that's an enviable place to be. But that said, I'll definitely miss seeing new colors on the Distress Oxides. I love those and really looked forward to those releases. Yup, you read that right. I don't follow him closely but it looks like he's been doing what he planned to do on YouTube - the most recent video was a back to basics education about Distress, answering all the FAQs, and before that he did a Valentine's livestream when most people would be working on projects - early Feb. |
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