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Post by Scrapper100 on Feb 10, 2025 20:27:27 GMT
I thought the turn on Lutherans and Catholics was because they did so much to help the poor. They were given a lot of money through USAID so therefore must be bad  I grew up Missouri synod but I think the schools I went to were more laid back and love your neighbors. I know my church got upset that we had a dance at the high school. I don’t remember which denomination the high school was. |
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Post by monklady123 on Feb 10, 2025 20:42:07 GMT
My dh said that he assumes one of trump's problems with the Catholic church is that the Catholic bishops totally disagree with trump about immigration. So of course you know that disagreement is grounds for retaliation and vengeance.  |
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Post by anniebygaslight on Feb 11, 2025 6:31:31 GMT
This side of the pond, we are sitting, open mouthed with disbelief, at what we are seeing. This Pastor Paula individual is either as mad as a hatter. What on earth is the Orange Turd thinking?
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Post by mollycoddle on Feb 11, 2025 11:09:49 GMT
This side of the pond, we are sitting, open mouthed with disbelief, at what we are seeing. This Pastor Paula individual is either as mad as a hatter. What on earth is the Orange Turd thinking? Heaven knows. It feels like a dystopian nightmare. It is embarrassing, frankly, from his laughably unfit Cabinet to his constant proclamations. I cringe when I see his orange face. I hope that those in other countries realize that a great many of us are not Trumpers. As far as religions-this is just a guess- it looks like he is choosing more “extreme” Christians. The big church kind, rather than more moderate ones. But that is just a guess on my part. |
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Post by scrappintoee on Feb 11, 2025 12:33:09 GMT
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Post by iamkristinl16 on Feb 11, 2025 13:27:43 GMT
I think this is applicable now (for democrats) but When I see these types of shirts or bumper stickers they are usually being used/worn by trumpers. I could be wrong, though. |
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Post by pilcas on Feb 11, 2025 15:01:45 GMT
This side of the pond, we are sitting, open mouthed with disbelief, at what we are seeing. This Pastor Paula individual is either as mad as a hatter. What on earth is the Orange Turd thinking? The whole purpose of Project 2025 is to dismantle the current system and create a new one in their vision. Thus, putting the most unqualified people in power will ensure that things break down, probably rather quickly. The Felon just shoots off his mouth and goes golfing and the people behind the scenes do their thing. |
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Post by Lianna on Feb 11, 2025 16:13:39 GMT
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 11, 2025 21:49:06 GMT
Anyone other than a white Christian male is apparently the wrong kind of American. www.nytimes.com/2025/02/11/opinion/trump-real-americans-diversity.htmlIn its early days, the second Trump administration is delivering a clear message: The United States is full of the wrong kind of people.
Federal civil servants, for example, have been deemed the wrong kind of people. Their political and ideological allegiances are questionable, their ideas destructive and their low-productivity jobs not worth their salaries. Too many are lawbreakers or just “evil.” Whether they toil at U.S.A.I.D. or the Treasury, the C.I.A. or the F.D.A., in Washington or throughout the country, they should look upon that fork in the road and opt to resign. In some cases, they should be purged.
Children born in the United States to undocumented parents — or to parents who are here legally but only temporarily, such as people on work or student visas — are also the wrong people. They are not true Americans and should not be granted the “gift” of citizenship.
Refugees and asylum seekers are the wrong kind of people and should be prevented from entering the country. Transgender Americans lack the “humility and selflessness” needed in the U.S. armed forces, according to a Trump executive order, and can no longer serve. Former officials such as Mark Milley, who served as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the first Trump administration, are disloyal and undeserving of government protection or even of a Pentagon portrait. And anyone fitting a “diversity” category of any kind is automatically suspect, a convenient scapegoat whenever something — wildfires, plane crashes — goes wrong.
If, according to the Trump administration, so many people in the United States are the wrong kind of people, who makes up the right kind? Who belongs here — in our military, our government, our territory?
The administration invokes meritocracy as one way to answer those questions. As Trump put it in an executive order on his second day in office, “individual merit, aptitude, hard work and determination” should be the overriding factors when hiring workers, not just in government but throughout “key sectors of American society.”
This directive might be more persuasive if Trump had followed it when selecting key members of his administration. Did Matt Gaetz, Trump’s first pick to serve as attorney general, possess the individual merit needed to lead the Justice Department? Does Tulsi Gabbard have the aptitude required to become director of national intelligence, or Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to oversee the Department of Health and Human Services? Is Pete Hegseth the hardest-working option to run the Defense Department?
The answer is evident. Their merit is not found in professional experience or outstanding qualifications, but in their fealty to the president. (When new appointees are hailed as disrupters, remember that in the Trump era “disruptive” is a euphemism for “obedient.”)
The racial imperative behind determining the right and wrong people — recall, for example, Trump’s disdain for outsiders who supposedly poison the national bloodstream — fuses with arguments over merit. Darren Beattie, a former Trump speechwriter who has been named acting under secretary of public diplomacy at the State Department, wrote late last year that “competent white men must be in charge if you want things to work.”
It would be one thing simply to roll back the excesses of D.E.I. programs throughout the federal government, but this worldview takes that process to its illogical extreme: If the quest for a diverse work force is prohibited, its opposite must be the best, the only, work force possible.
But that misses the administration’s underlying project. National unity is indeed returning — if, that is, your conception of the nation is limited to those on your side, if only some of the people are really “the people.” This president prefers to lead a nation in which belonging is constantly up for grabs, in which certain people are the wrong kind and others are the right kind, in which some are real Americans and others will never be.
The result is not just a crisis of trust in our government, but in each other. |
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Post by aj2hall on Feb 11, 2025 22:02:08 GMT
www.nytimes.com/2025/02/10/opinion/musk-vance-racist-education.htmlIf you want to understand the nature of our new regime, compare the fates of two federal employees who recently found themselves at least temporarily unable to keep doing their jobs. One is a West Point graduate, an Army veteran and a former prosecutor who was asked by political appointees in the first Trump administration to join a diversity committee. The other is a 25-year-old self-described racist. You can probably guess which of them Vice President JD Vance intervened to help out.
Under the new standards, diversity is taboo, and racism is not. This stark reversal of values is a signature of the Trump restoration.
Nor is bigotry a bar to high-level jobs elsewhere in the administration. Darren Beattie had to leave a job as a speechwriter in the first Trump administration for speaking at a conference that included white nationalists. Four months ago, he wrote on X, “Competent white men must be in charge if you want things to work.” He’s now been appointed acting under secretary of state for public diplomacy, one of the State Department’s top jobs, sending a worldwide message about who represents Trump’s America.
The Trumpist right believes that the social justice causes of the last decade or so, including #MeToo, Black Lives Matter and the trans rights movements, constituted a Maoist-style cultural revolution. The goal of Musk, Vance and their allies, evidently, is a counterrevolution as sweeping, cruel and arbitrary as the one they imagine they’ve suffered.
According to the rules of the old system, Chandra’s client, the regional director, did everything right. But as the Trump administration shows us every day, those rules don’t apply anymore.
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Post by scrappintoee on Feb 12, 2025 0:14:37 GMT
I think this is applicable now (for democrats) but When I see these types of shirts or bumper stickers they are usually being used/worn by trumpers. I could be wrong, though. Nope--you're right. Oops! I really should have checked the SOURCE of that before I posted  I do love the sentiment, but had NO idea it was pro-maga .  |
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Post by Merge on Feb 12, 2025 1:18:10 GMT
I think this is applicable now (for democrats) but When I see these types of shirts or bumper stickers they are usually being used/worn by trumpers. I could be wrong, though. Nope--you're right. Oops! I really should have checked the SOURCE of that before I posted I do love the sentiment, but had NO idea it was pro-maga . It really shouldn't be. The sane among us need to take it back along with the American flag. Don't let those fools represent all of us. |
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Post by hannahruth on Feb 13, 2025 6:29:42 GMT
Having read through this post I have to ask ‘why was he so worried about Biden’s mental capacity when he seems to be way past a medical examination of his own’
This man and his Colleagues are certainly not on a good wave length imho.
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Post by scrapngranny on Feb 14, 2025 0:18:49 GMT
I’m a white Christian and appalled by this. Our nation was began under the context of religious freedom for all. I don’t care what religion you chose, it is a private decision. Honestly, I’ve met more obnoxious Christians than any group of religious groups. They are judgmental and pious. Love for your neighbor is the one thing preached in the Bible, not hate.
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