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Post by workingclassdog on May 7, 2025 13:52:16 GMT
I wanted to pop in for a bit of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon type thing.. lol One of the Cardinals (Timothy Dolan) is on his way to Rome to begin the selection of the new Pope. As a Cardinal, he is potentially eligible to be selected. HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that would happen, but my trivia is that he went to the same school as I did (although a bit before me and I didn't know him) he mentions our school quite often so it would be kinda cool to say "hey I went to the same school as the Pope".. LOL..I will bet there will never be an American Pope, at least not for decades down the road. I'm not a Catholic anymore but I do have fond memories of the school and because of FB I am friends with most of my classmates there. And I have always had a heart for the pomp and circumstance for it all. Thankfully I don't have any bad stuff that has to do with the religion, I just am not in line with their beliefs anymore. Just fond memories of my classmates, teachers (except one nun who was pretty mean). And our Principal who is STILL living back in her home country of Ireland. She was OLD when I was in school. I just can't believe she is still ticking. She was very nice as most of them were. All our nuns were from Ireland. Anyways, that's all.
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Post by peano on May 7, 2025 14:20:46 GMT
I'm sorry, I know this ventures into sacrilegious territory, but I do so want Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa to be selected, just because I love his name. Pope Pizzaballa has a nice ring to it. And yes, I do know they select a papal name once elected.
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Post by jill8909 on May 7, 2025 15:05:09 GMT
I was raised serious catholic - schools all the way etc but left.
I'm shocked by the amount of attention this is getting. And I will leave it at that!
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Post by mom on May 7, 2025 15:10:07 GMT
I'm sorry, I know this ventures into sacrilegious territory, but I do so want Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa to be selected, just because I love his name. Pope Pizzaballa has a nice ring to it. And yes, I do know they select a papal name once elected. I had the same thought!! My boys are both Catholic but I am not, so I don’t know enough about any of the Cardinals to make a good guess on who could be the next Pope. But a Pope Pizzaballa? Yes, please.
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Post by mom on May 7, 2025 15:13:22 GMT
I was raised serious catholic - schools all the way etc but left. I'm shocked by the amount of attention this is getting. And I will leave it at that! Really? You shocked that so many are watching for who the next Pope is? I’m not Catholic (converted long enough to get married in the Catholic Church, then promptly never went again) but even I know how much cultural and political influence the Catholic faith have on the entire world. It only makes sense to me that people would be curious to see which direction the Church will potentially be moving depending on who is elected.
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Post by workingclassdog on May 7, 2025 15:21:15 GMT
I'm sorry, I know this ventures into sacrilegious territory, but I do so want Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa to be selected, just because I love his name. Pope Pizzaballa has a nice ring to it. And yes, I do know they select a papal name once elected. Oh I don't really care who they pick.. .I think Dolan has enough controversies behind him to even be considered seriously. I just hope they pick someone who was similar to Pope Francis. I really liked him (for all that is worth..lol)
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Post by needmysanity on May 7, 2025 16:07:25 GMT
I was raised serious catholic - schools all the way etc but left. I'm shocked by the amount of attention this is getting. And I will leave it at that! I am not Catholic but find the selection process fascinating.
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Post by monklady123 on May 7, 2025 16:21:53 GMT
I was chatting with ds this morning and he said the same thing about Cardinal Pizzaballa. lol. I don't know anything about him but I do love his name. I think the whole thing is fascinating, because it's such an old tradition. My ds is a historian so he loves watching it all and googling this and that. Also I reminded him that he was actually baptized Catholic, and made his first communion as a Catholic, and "once a Catholic always a Catholic". lol. He hasn't set foot in a church since then (unless for a friend's wedding or a funeral), not since dh stopped going and I took dd to my PCUSA church.... But I love teasing him by saying he's still Catholic in the eyes of the church.  I have no idea if that's actually true, but it doesn't really matter anyway. lol
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Post by Tearisci on May 7, 2025 16:44:11 GMT
I find it fascinating and now I want to watch Conclave again.
I was in Paris by Notre Dame when Pope Benedict was chosen and it was wild. Quite the memory!
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Post by littlemama on May 7, 2025 16:46:11 GMT
I'm sorry, I know this ventures into sacrilegious territory, but I do so want Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa to be selected, just because I love his name. Pope Pizzaballa has a nice ring to it. And yes, I do know they select a papal name once elected. I read an article that listed some potential "winners" and I loved this name.
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Post by littlemama on May 7, 2025 16:51:32 GMT
I was raised serious catholic - schools all the way etc but left. I'm shocked by the amount of attention this is getting. And I will leave it at that! Why are you shocked? I feel like the election of a new pope always gets a lot of attention
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Post by epeanymous on May 7, 2025 16:57:35 GMT
I’m not Catholic but since I teach at a Catholic university heck yeah I am invested.
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Post by sueg on May 7, 2025 17:02:21 GMT
I’ve been watching on and off all week. There is a lot of attention this time, probably a consequence of the omnipresence of social media. I am old enough to remember the 2 papal elections of 1978. Back then, we had news bulletins a couple of times a day and newspapers. When the white smoke appeared, we had a News Flash break into our TV or radio programs, then we waited for the evening news to find out more. Now, anyone and everyone is connected and can have their say. While it is fun to watch the proceedings, I’m not sure how much the ‘influencers’ are adding to the discourse.
No one knows what’s going to happen over the next few days. From previous conclaves we know that the ‘favourites’ don’t always come out as popes - no one expected either John Paul II or Francis to be chosen.
Just one last thing that’s been bugging me reading this thread (sorry, Catholics pedantry ahead) - the pope is ELECTED, not SELECTED. It is a vote, not a job interview process.
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Post by workingclassdog on May 7, 2025 17:28:04 GMT
I took the "s" off.. I certainly don't want to ruin anyone's day.
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Post by janet on May 7, 2025 17:44:17 GMT
I find it fascinating and now I want to watch Conclave again. I was in Paris by Notre Dame when Pope Benedict was chosen and it was wild. Quite the memory! I happened to be IN Notre Dame Paris during Pope Francis' funeral, which was intense. Also if you haven't read the book Conclave, I found it much better in terms of explaining the whole process.
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Post by papersilly on May 7, 2025 17:51:36 GMT
i'm a runaway Catholic but i love the pomp and pageantry. it will be interesting who they come up with.
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Post by rodeomom on May 7, 2025 17:52:47 GMT
I was raised serious catholic - schools all the way etc but left. I'm shocked by the amount of attention this is getting. And I will leave it at that! You don't remember 2013? There was a TON of attention. It was all over the news and I believe there were live updates. Talking heads on all the News
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Post by quinlove on May 7, 2025 18:01:41 GMT
I wanted to pop in for a bit of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon type thing.. lol One of the Cardinals (Timothy Dolan) is on his way to Rome to begin the selection of the new Pope. As a Cardinal, he is potentially eligible to be selected. HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that would happen, but my trivia is that he went to the same school as I did (although a bit before me and I didn't know him) he mentions our school quite often By any chance, is this Michigan? I went to a Catholic HS, there was a guy in my class named Timothy Dolan. I don’t do fb and have moved to Texas, I don’t stay in touch with any former classmates. Surely, it’s not him. btw, he was a cutie pie.
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Post by workingclassdog on May 7, 2025 18:14:17 GMT
I wanted to pop in for a bit of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon type thing.. lol One of the Cardinals (Timothy Dolan) is on his way to Rome to begin the selection of the new Pope. As a Cardinal, he is potentially eligible to be selected. HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that would happen, but my trivia is that he went to the same school as I did (although a bit before me and I didn't know him) he mentions our school quite often By any chance, is this Michigan? I went to a Catholic HS, there was a guy in my class named Timothy Dolan. I don’t do fb and have moved to Texas, I don’t stay in touch with any former classmates. Surely, it’s not him. btw, he was a cutie pie. No, this was in St. Louis (Ballwin more specifically) at Holy Infant School..I copied bits from Wiki: ---------------------------- Timothy Dolan was born on February 6, 1950, in St. Louis, Missouri. The family later moved to Ballwin, Missouri, where they attended Holy Infant Parish. Dolan was ordained a priest at Holy Infant Church on June 19, 1976. ---------------------------- I didn't see any reference to Michigan. I think I moved to Ballwin about 1981'ish. I don't think our paths ever crossed. The school is big time into Irish traditions and have a lot of reunions/gatherings/etc. So I am sure he attended some of those throughout the years but I don't remember him specifically.
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Post by sueg on May 7, 2025 18:15:47 GMT
I took the "s" off.. I certainly don't want to ruin anyone's day. Not ruining my day, I am just a bit of a pedant about some things! quinlove - Cardinal Dolan is 75 years old. Does that fit with being in your class? I haven’t imagined you as being in that age range. papersilly - i am also curious as to who they will chose. I’m not thinking names, but personalities and qualities. Looking back at the popes of my life time, it seems they have sort of alternated between pastoral and theological candidates. Francis was strongly pastoral, as was JPII, while Benedict was more academic and a strong theologian. Does this point to the election this time of a stronger theologian? If so, then Parolin is a possibility. If they want to continue with someone pastoral, Tagle is a strong candidate. Which probably means it will be someone completely different
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Post by Tearisci on May 7, 2025 18:34:07 GMT
I'm not Catholic but have followed both the Papal funeral and now Conclave with a lot of interest. The history and ceremonies are very interesting to me.
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Post by sueg on May 7, 2025 19:01:46 GMT
Black smoke. Not surprising for the first vote. It took a long time though.
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Post by voltagain on May 7, 2025 19:06:03 GMT
I'm shocked by the amount of attention this is getting. And I will leave it at that! Why shocked? I grew up in a town that didn't even have a Catholic church. I was well into adulthood before I knew anyone that had grown up Catholic and only recently known any active practicing Catholics. Yet, I've been watching every papal conclave since Pope John Paul I in the late 1970s. After all the Vatican is its own nation and is, or is potentially, the leading authority over 1.4 BILLION adherents world wide. The Catholic church has a huge impact on nations worldwide as it impacts congregants. Those congregants hold office in non Vatican countries and vote. So the Pope is a political voice that should not be ignored. I was only 3 for the conclave prior to John Paul I and didn't have any understanding of politics outside of bugs bunny. Although I knew when JFK was president he was Catholic and there was a national uproar about the dangers of having a Catholic president (he might make the Pope president of the US was what I concluded as a 3 year old) Maybe I was a weird child... I dunno... I tend to think our toddlers are way more knowledgeable and concerned about world affairs than adults give them credit for.
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Post by scrappinmama on May 7, 2025 19:43:51 GMT
I was raised serious catholic - schools all the way etc but left. I'm shocked by the amount of attention this is getting. And I will leave it at that! Really? I was raised Catholic. Went to Catholic school, went to church every Sunday and holy day of obligation. My family is hard core Catholic, but I am no longer. I remember watching on the news when Pope John Paul II became Pope. I remember watching when Pope Benedict became Pope. My father had passed away and his siblings were all over at my house and we watched together. It's always been a big deal in my family. Not trying to minimize your feelings at all though. I understand that you may not really care, but there are a lot of Catholics and ex-Catholics who care.
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Post by quinlove on May 7, 2025 19:54:56 GMT
I took the "s" off.. I certainly don't want to ruin anyone's day. Not ruining my day, I am just a bit of a pedant about some things! quinlove - Cardinal Dolan is 75 years old. Does that fit with being in your class? I haven’t imagined you as being in that age range. papersilly - i am also curious as to who they will chose. I’m not thinking names, but personalities and qualities. Looking back at the popes of my life time, it seems they have sort of alternated between pastoral and theological candidates. Francis was strongly pastoral, as was JPII, while Benedict was more academic and a strong theologian. Does this point to the election this time of a stronger theologian? If so, then Parolin is a possibility. If they want to continue with someone pastoral, Tagle is a strong candidate. Which probably means it will be someone completely different I am 75. My avatar picture is current to September 2024. Ha. I’m 74 still. But thank you for the comment. 😊 Photo taken at an event with my local sports radio guys. I have other pictures from the event, but they are too large to insert. 105.3 The Fan.
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Post by papersilly on May 7, 2025 20:26:48 GMT
papersilly - i am also curious as to who they will chose. I’m not thinking names, but personalities and qualities. Looking back at the popes of my life time, it seems they have sort of alternated between pastoral and theological candidates. Francis was strongly pastoral, as was JPII, while Benedict was more academic and a strong theologian. Does this point to the election this time of a stronger theologian? If so, then Parolin is a possibility. If they want to continue with someone pastoral, Tagle is a strong candidate. Which probably means it will be someone completely different i think the consensus is that they won't choose a conservative pope. a lot of people are also saying that there hasn't been pope from Italy in quite some time so they want the papacy to "come home".
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Post by Basket1lady on May 7, 2025 21:32:51 GMT
As a cradle Catholic, I find this process fascinating and the best of the best with our pomp and circumstance. I'm here for it! It is widely discussed in my family and there's lots of speculation. My parents' former priest (he has since died) was an assistant to Benedict way back when, long before he became pope. The old priest worked on doctrine issues at the Vatican. Benedict was a bit of a stickler about doctrine. The first day is a lot of the old rites. Rules/guidelines are laid down and Mass is celebrated. There's a lot to get through before that first vote, which is why there's only one vote on the first day. monklady123 Once a Catholic, always a Catholic. Unless you were excommunicated. It will be interesting to see who will be elected (not selected, LOL!) I forget if it's 80 of the cardinals or 80% of the cardinals who became so under Francis. How many will be loyal to his view and how many will go back to Benedict's ways? Of course, not all of them are good with modernization (when I taught CCD, I always said The Church was 2,000 years unimpeded by progress.) And the rising Catholic population in Africa is largely conservative. And there is a large, outspoken group who never believed that Francis was the true pope and want to go back to the dark ages.
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Post by voltagain on May 7, 2025 21:41:49 GMT
As a cradle Catholic, I find this process fascinating and the best of the best with our pomp and circumstance. I'm here for it! It is widely discussed in my family and there's lots of speculation. My parents' former priest (he has since died) was an assistant to Benedict way back when, long before he became pope. The old priest worked on doctrine issues at the Vatican. Benedict was a bit of a stickler about doctrine. The first day is a lot of the old rites. Rules/guidelines are laid down and Mass is celebrated. There's a lot to get through before that first vote, which is why there's only one vote on the first day. monklady123 Once a Catholic, always a Catholic. Unless you were excommunicated. It will be interesting to see who will be elected (not selected, LOL!) I forget if it's 80 of the cardinals or 80% of the cardinals who became so under Francis. How many will be loyal to his view and how many will go back to Benedict's ways? Of course, not all of them are good with modernization (when I taught CCD, I always said The Church was 2,000 years unimpeded by progress.) And the rising Catholic population in Africa is largely conservative. And there is a large, outspoken group who never believed that Francis was the true pope and want to go back to the dark ages. The Cardinals that participate in the conclave are those who are under 80 years old. Then it is a 2/3 majority vote to name the new pope. eta from google AI: In the current papal conclave, 133 cardinals are participating. These cardinals, known as cardinal electors, are all under the age of 80 and are eligible to vote for the next pope. The total number of cardinals in the Catholic Church is 252, but only those under 80 can participate in a conclave.
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Post by littlemama on May 7, 2025 21:45:38 GMT
As a cradle Catholic, I find this process fascinating and the best of the best with our pomp and circumstance. I'm here for it! It is widely discussed in my family and there's lots of speculation. My parents' former priest (he has since died) was an assistant to Benedict way back when, long before he became pope. The old priest worked on doctrine issues at the Vatican. Benedict was a bit of a stickler about doctrine. The first day is a lot of the old rites. Rules/guidelines are laid down and Mass is celebrated. There's a lot to get through before that first vote, which is why there's only one vote on the first day. monklady123 Once a Catholic, always a Catholic. Unless you were excommunicated. It will be interesting to see who will be elected (not selected, LOL!) I forget if it's 80 of the cardinals or 80% of the cardinals who became so under Francis. How many will be loyal to his view and how many will go back to Benedict's ways? Of course, not all of them are good with modernization (when I taught CCD, I always said The Church was 2,000 years unimpeded by progress.) And the rising Catholic population in Africa is largely conservative. And there is a large, outspoken group who never believed that Francis was the true pope and want to go back to the dark ages. The Cardinals that participate in the conclave are those who are under 80 years old. Then it is a 2/3 majority vote to name the new pope. eta from google AI: In the current papal conclave, 133 cardinals are participating. These cardinals, known as cardinal electors, are all under the age of 80 and are eligible to vote for the next pope. The total number of cardinals in the Catholic Church is 252, but only those under 80 can participate in a conclave. 135 are eligible but 2 arent there, I know one was for health reasons and I dont remember why the other one isnt there.
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Post by voltagain on May 7, 2025 21:55:17 GMT
The Cardinals that participate in the conclave are those who are under 80 years old. Then it is a 2/3 majority vote to name the new pope. eta from google AI: In the current papal conclave, 133 cardinals are participating. These cardinals, known as cardinal electors, are all under the age of 80 and are eligible to vote for the next pope. The total number of cardinals in the Catholic Church is 252, but only those under 80 can participate in a conclave. 135 are eligible but 2 arent there, I know one was for health reasons and I dont remember why the other one isnt there. I didn't realize 2 were not participating. Thanks for that update. eta: Appears both are missing due to health. Spanish Cardinal Antonio Cañizares and Kenyan Cardinal John Njue www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/263763/2-cardinal-electors-from-spain-and-kenya-will-not-attend-upcoming-conclave
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