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Post by AussieMeg on Jul 15, 2025 11:56:24 GMT
In Australia every full time employee gets 4 weeks annual leave.
The company I work for has just announced a new lifestyle leave policy. You can choose one of the following options: 1. Get an extra 6 days leave per year (26 days instead of 20 days) and a 0.5% pay increase. 2. No extra leave (stay with 20 days) and get the normal 2% pay increase.
If I had young school age children, I would choose to take the additional 6 days leave. If I didn't have a mortgage, I would probably take the additional 6 days leave. But at this stage of my life, I need the money more than I need the days off.
What would you choose if you had the choice?
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Post by gillyp on Jul 15, 2025 12:11:27 GMT
It would depend on the basic salary. I am leaning towards the higher holiday entitlement. It's not really less pay, is it, it's less increase and if I was coping on the current salary and could manage cost of living increases, I'd prefer the time off.
Here, our full time minimum entitlement is 28 days paid each year, more if the employer wishes. Doesn't really apply to me now as I'm self employed but my answer is based on when I was in full time employment.
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Post by gar on Jul 15, 2025 12:16:22 GMT
We're nearing retirement so we are all about time together/with family/travel etc so we'd take the extra time off.
Dh is self employed and I'm pretty much retired/self employed too so I'm answering somewhat hypothetically.
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Post by nicolep on Jul 15, 2025 12:19:40 GMT
More time off.
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Post by mich5481 on Jul 15, 2025 12:34:39 GMT
Honestly, it depends on a few factors.
Are those 6 extra days just for one year, or will you get 26 days every year going forward?
How difficult is it to use (and enjoy) your current 20 days? If you already get grief about taking 20 days off, what good are an extra 6?
How does your company treat people who have a healthy work/life balance? I just read a news article about how managers recognize people need a healthy balance, but they are less likely to promote people who enforce boundaries, as they are "less committed" to work. Are you at a point in your career where that bias would have long term impact on your overall financial wellbeing? If you are nearing retirement, that bias wouldn't compound as much as it would if you were in your 20s. Then again, you are in Australia, so it may not happen there.
In general though, I would take the extra days, as time is the only resource you can't make more of.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jul 15, 2025 12:36:05 GMT
Truthfully I am not sure what I would take, and I have flip flopped my answer a few times. At this time I am at take less days and more money. I guess it would depend if the 4 weeks includes holidays and sick time or if it is just annual holiday/vacation days off. 4 weeks is a pretty good hunk if it is just for vacation.
I just did the rough math on our leave/days off for my company…which I think is generous . I get about 36 days off a year…but that includes sick time, holidays, and vacation time. We do combined time off and it is all put into one ‘bucket’ and you can use it as you please. For example I work at least half of the holidays so I can use those days as regular vacation time.
I have over 400 hours in my ‘bank’ and can only keep 432 hours, so I obviously don’t even use what I get…therefore I think I would go for the money as I do think 4 weeks is plenty, except for an odd year here or there.
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Post by jeremysgirl on Jul 15, 2025 12:47:58 GMT
If there's no decrease in my current salary, I'd take the days off. I mean, I just switched jobs with a decrease in salary to escape a bad situation. So obviously I have *some* flexibility where wages are concerned. But maybe I wouldn't take the days off because Jeremy only gets 3 weeks (I get 4 now). He does a golf trip with his buddies for a week and then we have 2 weeks together. Frankly, I'm unsure whether I'd want more days off if he couldn't take more time off too. With that said, I also get separate sick time. And I do get to use my sick time for doctor/dentist appointments and mental health reasons. I can imagine if I didn't have a pool of sick days then I might need more mental health time because my mental health is very unpredictable. So the answer is, I don't know. Hahaha...there's a lot to think about with this question.
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Post by melanell on Jul 15, 2025 12:56:29 GMT
I'd definitely take more time off if we could use those 6 days with no restrictions (which is how things are now). That could give us a 3 day weekend every other month or a 4 day stretch of days off if attached to a current one day holiday. Or just an additional week off somewhere. And any of those would be really great.  This would all be dependent on me being able to reconsider the choice with each new year. After a few years of a taking the smaller pay increase I could imagine at some point I might want to say "You know what, we've gotten a lot done with the extra time these past few years, let's see if we can't tuck away a bit more money for a year, now." Or if inflation keeps on as it is, that we might simply feel that we needed the larger pay increase after awhile.
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Post by seaexplore on Jul 15, 2025 13:01:55 GMT
As a teacher whose retirement is based on highest salary in the last 3 years of working, I would take the extra pay. I already have quite a bit of vacation and I never use my 10 allotted days. Those days I don’t use to into my sick leave bank for when I retire. If I have 186 days I can retire a year early and get paid for the one more year.
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Post by lesley on Jul 15, 2025 13:02:40 GMT
In my last permanent employment, I got 30 days of annual leave, 12 days of public holidays, 6 months of sick leave on full pay, and a further 6 months on half pay. I also accrued annual leave while on sick leave! Despite all that, I would still have chosen the extra days’ leave. My DD exchanged a portion of her salary this year for an extra six days off. She can change that every year which I think is a great idea.
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Post by Tearisci on Jul 15, 2025 13:05:26 GMT
I would choose more days off over the raise. If I was making the same money and got a little bit of a raise, that would be fine.
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Post by compeateropeator on Jul 15, 2025 13:07:59 GMT
In my last permanent employment, I got 30 days of annual leave, 12 days of public holidays, 6 months of sick leave on full pay, and a further 6 months on half pay. I also accrued annual leave while on sick leave! Despite all that, I would still have chosen the extra days’ leave. My DD exchanged a portion of her salary this year for an extra six days off. She can change that every year which I think is a great idea. I agree that is a good idea. At my company, they do the opposite, you can sell back CTO for money. I am always prompted to do that and I always respond that I would prefer to keep the days in my bank. So in that instance I am doing the opposite and picking days over money. I am such a confused person. 😆
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Post by Merge on Jul 15, 2025 13:11:44 GMT
Oh more days off for sure. A two percent raise isn’t worth getting excited about - at least not at the salary levels I worked at. 
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Post by katiekaty on Jul 15, 2025 13:18:49 GMT
In Australia every full time employee gets 4 weeks annual leave. The company I work for has just announced a new lifestyle leave policy. You can choose one of the following options: 1. Get an extra 6 days leave per year (26 days instead of 20 days) and a 0.5% pay increase. 2. No extra leave (stay with 20 days) and get the normal 2% pay increase. If I had young school age children, I would choose to take the additional 6 days leave. If I didn't have a mortgage, I would probably take the additional 6 days leave. But at this stage of my life, I need the money more than I need the days off. What would you choose if you had the choice? I want to go work for your company 😁!
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Post by Laurie on Jul 15, 2025 13:35:54 GMT
Oh more days off for sure. Half a percent raise isn’t worth getting excited about. I read the OP as if you take the extra days off you get a 0.5% increase. If you don't take the extra days off you get 2%. So the difference is 1.5% I would take the 2%. I have 4 weeks of vacation and the only time I have used all of it was when I was on maternity leave. I usually only use about 2.5 weeks per year.
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Post by littlemama on Jul 15, 2025 13:47:42 GMT
Well, this year, I would take the extra 6 days off as those would be permanent, correct? And then next year Id go back to my normal raise.
The reasoning? Who knows if they will ever make the extra 6 day offer again! Take it now, then get back to raises.
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Post by artbabe on Jul 15, 2025 14:03:30 GMT
I'm a school teacher, so my entire teaching career has been more days off for less pay. I am so glad I get several months off a year. It is totally worth it.
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Post by Merge on Jul 15, 2025 14:05:20 GMT
Oh more days off for sure. Half a percent raise isn’t worth getting excited about. I read the OP as if you take the extra days off you get a 0.5% increase. If you don't take the extra days off you get 2%. So the difference is 1.5% I would take the 2%. I have 4 weeks of vacation and the only time I have used all of it was when I was on maternity leave. I usually only use about 2.5 weeks per year. Yeah I misread it. And of course as a teacher I had time off and would have taken the raise. But for corporate workers who might only get a week or two of paid time off, I’d think they might like having the extra time. Your post points out another problem with American work culture, though. Why don’t you use all of your four weeks each year? I know in many places it’s frowned on to actually use your vacation. It’s sad, really.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 15, 2025 14:24:37 GMT
I voted more days/less pay HOWEVER I work in Corporate and all that comes with it. I tell my team all the time, the work will wait, take your PTO. No one is going to die on the table.
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Post by grammadee on Jul 15, 2025 14:55:01 GMT
It would depend on my current situation. With small kids at home I needed time. When putting kids through college I needed money. And after that money was nice for taking vacations I had never had a chance to take before. (but time was a factor there, too) Do you have a pension plan, AussieMeg ? Many of those depend on your average salary the final five years of employment. If you cut your salary now, will it affect that amount? When you return from vacation now are you able to keep up with your work, or do you end up putting in extra hours to catch up? Is taking the extra time off worth that extra unpaid time?
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Post by MDscrapaholic on Jul 15, 2025 15:01:01 GMT
As someone who is very close to retirement, and my pension is based on my highest three years of pay, I'd take the extra money. Four weeks is more than enough time off for me; I'm a widow, my children are all grown, married, with families of their own. I currently get 35 days a year vacation, and have accumulated so many sick days I'll never be able to use them all. My last year of work I will be almost part time, as I use the vacation days I've accumulated to only work 3/4 days a week every week until the very last day. It's amazing to see how different everyone's decision is! But in the end, you should do what's best for YOU. I think it's great that they're giving you a choice, AussieMeg !
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Post by sassyangel on Jul 15, 2025 15:01:16 GMT
Truthfully I am not sure what I would take, and I have flip flopped my answer a few times. At this time I am at take less days and more money. I guess it would depend if the 4 weeks includes holidays and sick time or if it is just annual holiday/vacation days off. 4 weeks is a pretty good hunk if it is just for vacation. I just did the rough math on our leave/days off for my company…which I think is generous . I get about 36 days off a year…but that includes sick time, holidays, and vacation time. We do combined time off and it is all put into one ‘bucket’ and you can use it as you please. For example I work at least half of the holidays so I can use those days as regular vacation time. I have over 400 hours in my ‘bank’ and can only keep 432 hours, so I obviously don’t even use what I get…therefore I think I would go for the money as I do think 4 weeks is plenty, except for an odd year here or there. Im not sure how Meg’s company operates, but sick leave is *usually* a separate leave bank in Australia. As are paid company holidays - so it could be all leave on top of those.
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Post by scrapmaven on Jul 15, 2025 15:01:48 GMT
If I was making sufficient money I'd take the extra time off. Work/Life balance is so important and in the USA we don't support that. When I worked I often worked 60 hour weeks in a burnout manner, with 2 weeks off per year. Most people I knew were doing the same thing.
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Post by Laurie on Jul 15, 2025 15:03:09 GMT
I read the OP as if you take the extra days off you get a 0.5% increase. If you don't take the extra days off you get 2%. So the difference is 1.5% I would take the 2%. I have 4 weeks of vacation and the only time I have used all of it was when I was on maternity leave. I usually only use about 2.5 weeks per year. Yeah I misread it. And of course as a teacher I had time off and would have taken the raise. But for corporate workers who might only get a week or two of paid time off, I’d think they might like having the extra time. Your post points out another problem with American work culture, though. Why don’t you use all of your four weeks each year? I know in many places it’s frowned on to actually use your vacation. It’s sad, really. At my current job it is our family owned business. I don't want employees thinking that I am taking a lot of time off while they are working. Also, I am constantly worrying if there are any problems, etc so it is not like I am really getting away. However, I was the same way at my previous job. It was also 4 weeks/year but can carry over but you couldn't have over 6 weeks banked. It was use it or lose it so my boss would force me to take a few days off. Idk I just don't like taking time off if I am not going on a trip. I get bored and feel lazy.
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Post by busy on Jul 15, 2025 15:04:52 GMT
I'd most likely take the extra days, which I'd use as random days off here and there. One week off a quarter is what I do now and feels like the sweet spot for me of taking breaks without getting behind.
But is there any opportunity to earn raises beyond the 0.5% or 2.0%? I'm assuming that is what we'd call in the US a cost-of-living adjustment (ha, not even close to reality) but what about merit-based increases? If I am going to be maxed out at a 0.5% annual increase unless I change jobs, that's really limiting future earnings. For someone who's later in their career, it doesn't add up to that much difference but someone with 20 years or more left in their working life, that's going to be hundreds of thousands of dollars in lost income.
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Post by busy on Jul 15, 2025 15:20:34 GMT
At my current job it is our family owned business. I don't want employees thinking that I am taking a lot of time off while they are working. Also, I am constantly worrying if there are any problems, etc so it is not like I am really getting away. However, I was the same way at my previous job. It was also 4 weeks/year but can carry over but you couldn't have over 6 weeks banked. It was use it or lose it so my boss would force me to take a few days off. Idk I just don't like taking time off if I am not going on a trip. I get bored and feel lazy. I get it! When I was the president of a company, I had a generous leave policy - more than the rank & file staff - but I felt very uncomfortable taking time above what the rest of the team had. Financially, the company wasn't in a position to offer everyone the same leave package I had, so I while I did bump up everyone's leave to some degree, I still had more (board's decision, not mine). I just let my time in excess of what senior members of staff had go to waste. As A senior leader but not THE senior leader in a larger company, I don't hesitate to take all my time. There are more coverage options and the overall structure of the company is better and more equitable. The company I ran was an acquisition from a retiring owner who ran the place for decades as his own personal fiefdom, paying himself handsomely and underpaying and overworking all the staff, while leaving a ton of deferred maintenance - physical and technological - across everything. Soooo much had to be invested to get things up to snuff, including increasing employee wages and cross-training staff for coverage when people were out. I was able to give them raises but couldn't ALSO give them a bunch more leave at the same time. It was just a very complicated situation that required careful leadership and a good bit of sacrifice on my part. But we made a ton of progress and I'm super proud of where they all where when I left compared to when I started.
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Post by workingclassdog on Jul 15, 2025 15:26:33 GMT
With my current job, I would take the extra days off... I hate it here so much I don't want to be here. It would be worth it. We only get 17 days per year (it all falls under PTO) and holidays. PTO goes up at five years and 10 years.... My last job with the State.. I would probably take the increase as we got quite a bit of time off and didn't get much of any type of raise.. maybe 1 or 2 percent. But the cost of insurance went up so yeah, never seen much of an increase.
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Post by cindyupnorth on Jul 15, 2025 15:29:40 GMT
I feel like if you would ask a different demographic, then the one on here, it would be totally different. Most men I feel would say more pay.
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Post by katlady on Jul 15, 2025 15:31:39 GMT
It would depend on my situation at the time. Currently, I get more vacation than I use in a year. I have like 8 weeks banked. So the extra 6 days is not important. But, when you retire, my company allows you to cash out any unused vacation, so maybe it would be good to take the extra days. If my boys were still young, and I didn’t have as many years with the company, I would have taken the extra days.
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Post by ScrapbookMyLife on Jul 15, 2025 15:31:59 GMT
I would choose the extra time off. I treasure my days off and being home. I would love having even more days off....especially since I've become much more of a homebody as I've aged. A 2% increase in funds, would not be that much of an increase, nor would it be a significant difference or impact on my budget and finances. ![]()
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