pinklady
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Post by pinklady on Jul 27, 2025 14:27:09 GMT
There was a fire on an American Airlines plane yesterday in Denver. A bunch of comments are criticizing people for taking their ”carry on”. I’ve watch the video and nobody is evacuating down the slide with their rolling suitcase, they are taking their bag/backpack that was stowed under the seat which probably has their ID, cash, phone, meds, etc. I have no problem with someone grabbing that bag. Although, if it’s backpack, they should be wearing it. It didn’t hold anyone up to grab what is at your feet. What say the peas? www.instagram.com/reel/DMm62M5K65y/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
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Post by voltagain on Jul 27, 2025 14:45:20 GMT
If you debark in an emergency, leave EVERYTHING behind, no body is going to just let you say "I was in an emergency plane landing so I don't have any id, way to pay for my hotel, and need you to just give me replacement meds because my insurance isn't going to cover them and I don't have a way to pay for them" You aren't going to be able to board a flight on to your destination or a flight home either without id. What are they supposed to do? Theoretically you can sleep on the street but without a mailing address in that city you have no way to recieve replacements. Yeah, I'd grab my purse too.
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Post by katlady on Jul 27, 2025 14:53:24 GMT
I would do what many of these people did. I would grab my backpack/purse that is usually right at my feet, and has my Id and money/credit cards in it. My answer might be different if we were evacuating into a life raft and space was a premium.
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Post by melanell on Jul 27, 2025 15:01:02 GMT
I haven't heard about this story yet, so I don't know when the fire started and where. I don't know exactly what the configuration of the plane was, or how crowded it was, etc. And I don't know just how fast they needed to get those people off of the plane. I also don't know if any announcements were made about grabbing or not grabbing possessions.
If they had time to evacuate without people needing to literally outrace flames, then my thoughts lean towards the idea that the passengers knew they were landing and had time to get bags ready ahead of time. Especially those whose bags were on their laps (personal bags), or tucked under their seat. In which case the only way having the bags could have possibly slowed them down would have been in actually getting themselves down the aisle.
Now, obviously those stopping to grab overhead bags during the evacuation might be different. BUT, again, evacuating a plane doesn't happen in an instant either. If you're all standing, and you need to wait your turn, and you're standing right by the bin where your bag is, then you're not really taking extra time. However you might be adding more complications in terms of the doors being left open and in the way, etc.
Ultimately I know people often bring the very most essential items in the bags they bring on board. I could imagine trying to jam my medications and money, etc. into pockets, but not everyone thinks the same in an emergency as they do talking about one, so who knows if I would have thought of that on the plane.
Like I said, if the passenger areas were literally in flames and every split second meant someone else was in danger of terrible injury, then it would have been more prudent in most cases for people to leave behind any bags and haul a$$ out of there. But that didn't seem to be the case in what I saw in that video linked here.
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Post by grammadee on Jul 27, 2025 15:09:49 GMT
I would grab purse with ID, meds, phone, car keys in it. If the purse is in a larger bag under the seat, I would grab the whole bag. Prob takes less time than rifling through it for essentials.
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Post by chaosisapony on Jul 27, 2025 15:14:12 GMT
If you are not actively running from flames I don't see what the problem is with grabbing your stuff.
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scrappinmama
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 27, 2025 15:16:41 GMT
I would grab my fanny pack that keeps my flight essentials (meds, inhaler, hand sanitizer, phone and charger). It seems like people grabbed their under-seat bags. Really the only one I am side-eying is the man who had a kid in his arm, along with 3 different bags. strap one backpack on and hold that kid with both arms. Amy minute you take to gather all your belongings could end someone else's life. But I have questions. When they went down the slide, did they know how bad the fire was? Were they told to evacuate, but there was no immediate threat? or were they told "fire, get out now!"
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Post by Zee on Jul 27, 2025 15:29:01 GMT
I know humans well enough to bet that not everyone was simply grabbing what's under their seat. I can already imagine the assholes blocking the aisle to get their stuff from the overhead bins.
I would definitely grab my backpack and put it on but not worry about the rest.
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Post by melanell on Jul 27, 2025 17:20:29 GMT
When they went down the slide, did they know how bad the fire was? Were they told to evacuate, but there was no immediate threat? or were they told "fire, get out now!" See, those were the kinds of things I was wondering, too. It's hard for me to form a firm opinion without more information than the public currently has. Of course, since I wasn't on the plane, I guess my opinion really doesn't matter much, anyway. 
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Post by katlady on Jul 27, 2025 17:46:46 GMT
When they went down the slide, did they know how bad the fire was? Were they told to evacuate, but there was no immediate threat? or were they told "fire, get out now!" See, those were the kinds of things I was wondering, too. It's hard for me to form a firm opinion without more information than the public currently has. Of course, since I wasn't on the plane, I guess my opinion really doesn't matter much, anyway.  You can see flames and smoke under the plane, so it was pretty much a get out now situation. And I don't see how grabbing your purse, which is at your feet, delays anyone. Now, getting your luggage down from above is a different story, and I see no one in the video with luggage. And I am sure there was a little warning beforehand, and passengers were sitting there preparing to evacuate before the plane came to a stop. So, I would be sitting there, with my purse/backpack in my lap, ready to go.
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Post by Linda on Jul 27, 2025 17:50:45 GMT
I have a cross-body pouch for travel that I wear and it has my ID, passport(if international), debit card, phone, and any cash plus plane/train/bus tickets. So I would already be wearing my essentials and wouldn't need to grab anything else. Meds, kindle, change of clothes etc... that were in my carry-on - can all be replaced
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Post by SabrinaP on Jul 27, 2025 18:06:42 GMT
It takes awhile to deboard a plane I would imagine even in an emergency so yes I would grab my purse/backpack if possible.
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Post by ntsf on Jul 27, 2025 18:16:35 GMT
the emergency directions are to leave everything behind.. so I would not second guess the directions to do so.
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Post by mom on Jul 27, 2025 18:34:30 GMT
I would grab my bag -- I always have one at my feet. I absolutely would not hold up the line getting off the plane though. If I couldn't grab it without moving out of my seat, I would leave it.
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Post by 950nancy on Jul 27, 2025 18:51:57 GMT
I would have grabbed my underseat bag. I carry everything important in that bag and for how long you actually wait to get off the plane unless you are right next to the exit, you have time.
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Post by voltagain on Jul 27, 2025 19:06:34 GMT
See, those were the kinds of things I was wondering, too. It's hard for me to form a firm opinion without more information than the public currently has. Of course, since I wasn't on the plane, I guess my opinion really doesn't matter much, anyway.  You can see flames and smoke under the plane, so it was pretty much a get out now situation. And I don't see how grabbing your purse, which is at your feet, delays anyone. Now, getting your luggage down from above is a different story, and I see no one in the video with luggage. And I am sure there was a little warning beforehand, and passengers were sitting there preparing to evacuate before the plane came to a stop. So, I would be sitting there, with my purse/backpack in my lap, ready to go. Looks like the flames were a burning tire on the landing gear. Hazardous for sure but not the same level of panic as a fire inside the plane. The smoke of burning tires is going to get deadly before the flames are a hazard to the passengers.
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Post by dnkmmw on Jul 27, 2025 19:10:52 GMT
While time can be a factor, it’s not the only reason they tell you to leave bags. It’s also having your hands free, not having things that can go flying on the slide and hit people, not having items on the slide that can damage it, etc.
Dawn
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Post by voltagain on Jul 27, 2025 19:14:43 GMT
I would grab my fanny pack that keeps my flight essentials (meds, inhaler, hand sanitizer, phone and charger). It seems like people grabbed their under-seat bags. Really the only one I am side-eying is the man who had a kid in his arm, along with 3 different bags. strap one backpack on and hold that kid with both arms. Amy minute you take to gather all your belongings could end someone else's life. But I have questions. When they went down the slide, did they know how bad the fire was? Were they told to evacuate, but there was no immediate threat? or were they told "fire, get out now!" Looks like he is holding a preschooler. The person on the slide ahead of him appeared to be a child around the age of 6-8. I am guessing a parent traveling with 2 kids. So the parent is carrying her/his bag and a bag for each child. Two of the bags are smaller and purple/pink. They may have been told to take their under seat bags since it seems everyone has a bag just no bin sized roller bags.
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Post by revirdsuba99 on Jul 27, 2025 19:44:22 GMT
All the more reason to 'wear' your Immediate needed items.
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Post by freecharlie on Jul 27, 2025 19:49:17 GMT
If I wasn't in the exit row, I'm sure I had time to grab it. That said, I keep ky wallet in my pocket on flights just in case of evacuation
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Post by crazy4scraps on Jul 27, 2025 21:29:06 GMT
I’d be taking my purse/bag from under the seat, I have all of my important stuff in that one bag and it’s a tote bag that would be easy to grab and run with. There are lots of people though who don’t put any of their bags under their seat, they shove everything in the overhead bins even though they shouldn’t. I can imagine they would be the entitled ones holding things up. Those are usually the same jerks who don’t put their carryon bags in the bin directly above their seats too, they put them in the bins up front so they don’t have to drag them as far through the plane. 🙄
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Post by jackietex on Jul 27, 2025 22:17:22 GMT
I'm a rule follower, so I would only take the phone that I'm sure would be already in my hand.
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Post by Delta Dawn on Jul 28, 2025 0:13:58 GMT
I wear a little Lululemon cross body with my wallet and money and phone on me the entire time. I don’t need anything else maybe my meds. They are important.
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Post by christinec68 on Jul 28, 2025 0:27:01 GMT
I'm a rule follower, so I would only take the phone that I'm sure would be already in my hand. Same here. My phone case has a flap on the back with some slots where I keep my license, ins card, credit card and $20. My husband would have his wallet with everything he needs. ETA...I saw one guy come down the slide with his roller bag.
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Post by katlaw on Jul 28, 2025 3:56:37 GMT
People need to leave everything behind when they evacuate. You making sure you get your passport and your belongings could be the reason someone else does not get to evacuate in time. It is critical to leave your belonging behind and follow all directions as you evacuate. My friend was on the flight that had the engine fire back in April. What she said she learned from that flight experience is: #1 - the pilots were amazing. They train for emergencies and they got the plane safely landed and everyone was able to evacuate safely. Trust the crew and do what you are told to do. #2 - wear cargo pants, or a jacket with a few pockets or a passport wallet on a strap around your neck or waist. Keep your passport and your money in there. You likely have your cellphone in your hand already. Drop your cellphone into a pocket as you evacuate and you are now evacuating with your cellphone, money and passport. Everything else you have with you can be left behind.
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Post by melanell on Jul 28, 2025 5:22:47 GMT
If anything, I'd say that perhaps it would be great for airlines to get out some PSAs suggesting some of the ideas presented in this thread for ways of making sure people have vital medications, passports, etc., while not having to resort to lugging large backpacks or rolling bags out of the plane in an emergency.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 28, 2025 12:32:44 GMT
I saw more footage this morning and I'm going to call everyone out that carried a bag down the slide. It was clearly an emergency. People were panicked and were not thinking. Understandable, but follow instructions if you don't know what to do! I could hear flight attendants say leave your bags. And if you have life dependent medication, please consider would I do and carry it in a small fanny pack when you travel.
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Post by scrappinmama on Jul 28, 2025 12:35:00 GMT
I would grab my fanny pack that keeps my flight essentials (meds, inhaler, hand sanitizer, phone and charger). It seems like people grabbed their under-seat bags. Really the only one I am side-eying is the man who had a kid in his arm, along with 3 different bags. strap one backpack on and hold that kid with both arms. Amy minute you take to gather all your belongings could end someone else's life. But I have questions. When they went down the slide, did they know how bad the fire was? Were they told to evacuate, but there was no immediate threat? or were they told "fire, get out now!" Looks like he is holding a preschooler. The person on the slide ahead of him appeared to be a child around the age of 6-8. I am guessing a parent traveling with 2 kids. So the parent is carrying her/his bag and a bag for each child. Two of the bags are smaller and purple/pink. They may have been told to take their under seat bags since it seems everyone has a bag just no bin sized roller bags. No I saw a video from the plane and a flight attendant yelled "leave your bags." People just weren't listening. I totally understand that he was scared, but he could have dropped his child. He should have listened to the flight attendant.
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Post by 3boysnme on Jul 28, 2025 13:07:49 GMT
If you have a carryon in the overhead compartments, you leave that behind. But most of us have our purses with us, and not stowed away. Perfectly fine to grab that as it's right there. But do not hold everyone up trying to get your bag out of the overhead. Men usually have their wallets on them already. If you are holding everyone up trying to grab your bag from the overhead, you should be fined.
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Post by SweetieBsMom on Jul 28, 2025 13:11:48 GMT
I saw flight attendants commenting on this on TT this weekend and the general consensus is leave EVERYTHING. However, I know I'd probably grab my backpack at my feet, sling it on my back and go. If it were an actual fire, I may do the same thing. I hope to never find out.
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