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Post by susans sister on Feb 2, 2015 22:54:05 GMT
Did anyone else notice Cora saying "Golly what a night" after Lord Grantham found another man in her bedroom. I had to laugh.
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Post by ~Susan~ on Feb 3, 2015 17:58:10 GMT
I just remembered that I haven't watched it this week. I can't wait to see that scene.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 18:00:49 GMT
This was a good episode! I liked the brawl with Lord Grantham. Very un "lord" like 
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Post by stefdesign on Feb 3, 2015 19:01:27 GMT
Yes! The brawl was great! And I was quite pleased that Tom "let Sarah Bunting go", without any dramatics. I can't really understand why Lady Edith doesn't tell Mrs. Drewe (is that her name?) That she is Marigold's mother. Are they really plotting to kidnap the child and send her to a "school" in Switzerland? Did I misunderstand their scheme? If she's worried about her reputation, it's obvious that Mr. Drewe knows, but hasn't broken her confidence. Why couldn't his wife keep it a secret, if some money changed hands? Actually, I can't really understand why Edith hasn't just told the whole family. The Dowager Crawley and Rosamund know, so it's not like the news killed anyone.
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Post by scrappinmama on Feb 3, 2015 19:06:49 GMT
I loved Lord Grantham's slap fest! It was the highlight of the night.
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Post by Monica* on Feb 3, 2015 19:14:24 GMT
Okay, I've been patient with Cora, but she really is a simpering fool who doesn't really add anything to any scene. Lord Grantham can be a blowhard, but at least he shows some passion and spunk once in a while. Re Edith and Marigold, it is frustrating to watch, but I guess we have to remember how a woman could be "ruined" back then. I hope Miss Bunting does not come back. I really disliked her character. While I'm glad Tom found someone with whom he shares political views, she was just rude and vile. Rose's new admirer is a cuties patootie. I'm sure the Jewish thing is going to come into play -- but come to think of it, haven't they already played the diversity card with the Jazz band leader last season?
I don't know, this season is kind of blah for me. I think they're dragging some story lines out way too long without any kind of exciting anticipation. The Bates thing is way old.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 20:03:26 GMT
"I'm afraid you have read somewhere that rudeness in old age is amusing, which is quiet wrong." Lady Rosamund to Violet
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Post by susans sister on Feb 3, 2015 20:10:20 GMT
I too am glad to see the back of Sarah Bunting. The fact that she left town gives me hope that she is gone for good.
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Post by jediannie on Feb 3, 2015 20:40:50 GMT
I too am glad Sarah Bunting is gone. She annoyed me to no end.
I'm still annoyed also by the Bates' storylines. I don't care who killed that b@stard Greene, he did a bad thing and deserved it.
I'm a little bored with Thomas too. Actually, I'm a little bored with everyone this week. I have Season 5 on blu-ray, but have only watched episode 5. I may binge watch the rest just to get it over with because I'm having a hard time paying attention this season.
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Post by julieb on Feb 3, 2015 21:08:02 GMT
Loads of great quotes this week! I hope Lord Grantham will now realize how much Cora can contribute to the estate, other than her money. He does dismiss her ideas too readily.
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Post by Jili on Feb 3, 2015 21:40:49 GMT
Okay, I've been patient with Cora, but she really is a simpering fool who doesn't really add anything to any scene. Lord Grantham can be a blowhard, but at least he shows some passion and spunk once in a while. Re Edith and Marigold, it is frustrating to watch, but I guess we have to remember how a woman could be "ruined" back then. I hope Miss Bunting does not come back. I really disliked her character. While I'm glad Tom found someone with whom he shares political views, she was just rude and vile. Rose's new admirer is a cuties patootie. I'm sure the Jewish thing is going to come into play -- but come to think of it, haven't they already played the diversity card with the Jazz band leader last season? I don't know, this season is kind of blah for me. I think they're dragging some story lines out way too long without any kind of exciting anticipation. The Bates thing is way old. I pretty much agree with all of this. The fight last night was entertaining--all the more so because Lord Grantham looked ridiculous fighting in his uniform. I don't know why that made me laugh but it did. I said last week that I think that Anna will be arrested for the murder of Mr. Green, and I still believe that. The Anna/Bates storylines ARE getting tiring. I think some hints were dropped, though, about another upcoming storyline. There was some dialogue between Anna & Bates regarding having children. So that means that the time is right for Bates to stumble upon Mary's diaphragm, feel Anna's betrayed him, etc. I feel that Tom, as the resident heartthrob and eye candy, is being underutilized. What storyline will there be for him now that Miss Bunting is gone? Not that I mind that she's gone, but I'd like to see him do *something* at least. I was waiting for Thomas to pass out in the dining room, and that never happened. He looked like a zombie. Violet, Rosamund, and even Edith's inability to see that Mrs. Drew regards Marigold as her own child is really irritating to me. I understand their position from a historical/cultural standpoint, but it's so hard for me to really truly grasp how they are just unable to take someone else's viewpoint and feelings into consideration.
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Post by stefdesign on Feb 3, 2015 22:52:24 GMT
Okay, I've been patient with Cora, but she really is a simpering fool who doesn't really add anything to any scene. Lord Grantham can be a blowhard, but at least he shows some passion and spunk once in a while. Re Edith and Marigold, it is frustrating to watch, but I guess we have to remember how a woman could be "ruined" back then. I hope Miss Bunting does not come back. I really disliked her character. While I'm glad Tom found someone with whom he shares political views, she was just rude and vile. Rose's new admirer is a cuties patootie. I'm sure the Jewish thing is going to come into play -- but come to think of it, haven't they already played the diversity card with the Jazz band leader last season? I don't know, this season is kind of blah for me. I think they're dragging some story lines out way too long without any kind of exciting anticipation. The Bates thing is way old. I pretty much agree with all of this. The fight last night was entertaining--all the more so because Lord Grantham looked ridiculous fighting in his uniform. I don't know why that made me laugh but it did. I said last week that I think that Anna will be arrested for the murder of Mr. Green, and I still believe that. The Anna/Bates storylines ARE getting tiring. I think some hints were dropped, though, about another upcoming storyline. There was some dialogue between Anna & Bates regarding having children. So that means that the time is right for Bates to stumble upon Mary's diaphragm, feel Anna's betrayed him, etc. I feel that Tom, as the resident heartthrob and eye candy, is being underutilized. What storyline will there be for him now that Miss Bunting is gone? Not that I mind that she's gone, but I'd like to see him do *something* at least. I was waiting for Thomas to pass out in the dining room, and that never happened. He looked like a zombie. Violet, Rosamund, and even Edith's inability to see that Mrs. Drew regards Marigold as her own child is really irritating to me. I understand their position from a historical/cultural standpoint, but it's so hard for me to really truly grasp how they are just unable to take someone else's viewpoint and feelings into consideration. I don't know...I agree with some of your points, but the part about Mary's diaphragm doesn't seem right to me... I seem to recall that Anna had it in a bag and Bates asked what it was and she said she was holding something for Lady Mary. If my recollection is correct, it seems a little farfetched that he would think she was being unfaithful. She pretty much wears her heart on her sleeve, it would seem odd for him to think she had something else going on the side. But maybe I'M naive! It certainly hadn't crossed my mind to think they would arrest her for the murder of Mr. Greene. I supposed that they thought she would be able to confirm their suspicions of Mr. Bates. I admit, I'm not too clever at predicting plot lines and story twists. I'm always surprised the turns of events!
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Post by back to *pea*ality on Feb 3, 2015 23:03:33 GMT
I love the show but many of the story lines are stale and moving at a snail's pace.
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Post by Monica* on Feb 3, 2015 23:13:22 GMT
I think the point about Bates finding the diaphragm isn't that he would assume Anna was being unfaithful, but more that she was trying to prevent the two of them from conceiving a child -- thus the betrayal since they have discussed having children.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 23:25:21 GMT
Edith is being cruel to Mrs. Drew. And the family in Switzerland who first adopted Marigold. If she wants to keep her child and face the scandal, then by all means, do so. But letting other families welcome the baby into their hearts, then reneging on her agreements just really bothers me.
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Post by Jili on Feb 3, 2015 23:26:44 GMT
I pretty much agree with all of this. The fight last night was entertaining--all the more so because Lord Grantham looked ridiculous fighting in his uniform. I don't know why that made me laugh but it did. I said last week that I think that Anna will be arrested for the murder of Mr. Green, and I still believe that. The Anna/Bates storylines ARE getting tiring. I think some hints were dropped, though, about another upcoming storyline. There was some dialogue between Anna & Bates regarding having children. So that means that the time is right for Bates to stumble upon Mary's diaphragm, feel Anna's betrayed him, etc. I feel that Tom, as the resident heartthrob and eye candy, is being underutilized. What storyline will there be for him now that Miss Bunting is gone? Not that I mind that she's gone, but I'd like to see him do *something* at least. I was waiting for Thomas to pass out in the dining room, and that never happened. He looked like a zombie. Violet, Rosamund, and even Edith's inability to see that Mrs. Drew regards Marigold as her own child is really irritating to me. I understand their position from a historical/cultural standpoint, but it's so hard for me to really truly grasp how they are just unable to take someone else's viewpoint and feelings into consideration. I don't know...I agree with some of your points, but the part about Mary's diaphragm doesn't seem right to me... I seem to recall that Anna had it in a bag and Bates asked what it was and she said she was holding something for Lady Mary. If my recollection is correct, it seems a little farfetched that he would think she was being unfaithful. She pretty much wears her heart on her sleeve, it would seem odd for him to think she had something else going on the side. But maybe I'M naive! It certainly hadn't crossed my mind to think they would arrest her for the murder of Mr. Greene. I supposed that they thought she would be able to confirm their suspicions of Mr. Bates. I admit, I'm not too clever at predicting plot lines and story twists. I'm always surprised the turns of events! Oh, I wasn't thinking that Bates will think she's being unfaithful if he finds it-- maybe something more along the lines of "why don't you want to have children with me?" --that she was being deceptive about something like that. But really, I have no idea. I just can't help but think that we haven't heard the last of that hidden diaphragm. 
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Post by Basket1lady on Feb 4, 2015 0:13:14 GMT
I don't know...I agree with some of your points, but the part about Mary's diaphragm doesn't seem right to me... I seem to recall that Anna had it in a bag and Bates asked what it was and she said she was holding something for Lady Mary. If my recollection is correct, it seems a little farfetched that he would think she was being unfaithful. She pretty much wears her heart on her sleeve, it would seem odd for him to think she had something else going on the side. But maybe I'M naive! It certainly hadn't crossed my mind to think they would arrest her for the murder of Mr. Greene. I supposed that they thought she would be able to confirm their suspicions of Mr. Bates. I admit, I'm not too clever at predicting plot lines and story twists. I'm always surprised the turns of events! Oh, I wasn't thinking that Bates will think she's being unfaithful if he finds it-- maybe something more along the lines of "why don't you want to have children with me?" --that she was being deceptive about something like that. But really, I have no idea. I just can't help but think that we haven't heard the last of that hidden diaphragm.  I think the police are going to search the cottage and find it, and "prove" that Anna's moral character is lacking. Remember, in those days it was considered rather loose to use contraception. I think Anna is going to be arrested, too. What what motive would the police suspect? That her husband didn't like the guy, so she offed him? Edith and Marigold. If Edith takes that child away from a mother who loves her to send her to a boarding school in France--NO! How cruel. Just so that Edith can pretend she isn't hers? But then, the English do love their boarding schools. I'm so glad that Tom is finished with Miss Bunting. I thought for a minute that he was going to keep her. I think the draw was that they were similar, but then Tom can see how his views have changed--that the titled aren't all horrible just because they have a title. I loved the interaction between the Dowager and Rosamund. Very good! And Rose and her now beau. I think they use her to illustrate how times are changing and now she ( a Christian) is interested in a Jewish man. It could be interesting. And Cora is just clueless, but then so is that painter guy. When Robert decked him, I cheered.
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Post by cawoman on Feb 4, 2015 0:25:16 GMT
I agree with everyone who is tired of Sweet Cora. If I Have to see that coy little smile of hers again, I'm going to scream. And yes, I did catch her little quip mentioned by the OP. LOL!
I know someone mentioned it on the boards at some point, but I think Edith is Rosamund's daughter. If so, that storyline will be fun!
Even with Sweet Cora, and the Bates's tired storyline, I LOVE this show!
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Post by snowsilver on Feb 4, 2015 0:30:46 GMT
I'll be the odd man out here I love Cora. I think she is wonderful. Gracious, warm, and able to withstand way too many brush offs on the part of her husband--and remember it's HER money! I love dignified women like her who manage to carry on and make everything around her more beautiful because of her goodness and grace.
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Post by scrapngranny on Feb 4, 2015 0:46:43 GMT
This season has been so disappointing. The only story line that is the least bit interesting is the one about Mrs. Crawley and her suitors. Or course any scene with the Dowager is great. I have a feeling the writers are getting a lot of negative feedback regarding the Bates/Greene storyline and lots of bravos for Miss Bunting leaving.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Feb 4, 2015 1:00:33 GMT
Yes! The brawl was great! And I was quite pleased that Tom "let Sarah Bunting go", without any dramatics. I can't really understand why Lady Edith doesn't tell Mrs. Drewe (is that her name?) That she is Marigold's mother. Are they really plotting to kidnap the child and send her to a "school" in Switzerland? Did I misunderstand their scheme? If she's worried about her reputation, it's obvious that Mr. Drewe knows, but hasn't broken her confidence. Why couldn't his wife keep it a secret, if some money changed hands? Actually, I can't really understand why Edith hasn't just told the whole family. The Dowager Crawley and Rosamund know, so it's not like the news killed anyone. I am quite surprised she hasn't told her Mother.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 4, 2015 1:55:22 GMT
I think Anna will get blamed and Bates will tell. He mentioned that nothing bad would ever happen to her at the end of the last episode. As far as getting bored with the series, I think many books written from that time period ( and earlier) take ages and ages for something to happen. I dearly loved reading Pride and Prejudice, but there were chapters that nothing really happened. I kind of feel like I am spying on real people as I watch and not watching a television series with all that drama. Frankly, I hated the WWI scenes. It was too sad.
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 4, 2015 2:02:09 GMT
Pardon my ignorance of family planning at this time, but did people just abstain during certain times of the month if they didn't want children, did they use contraceptives, did they only have sex to try to have children or did they just have sex when they wanted and hope for the best?
Who do you all think did kill Mr. Greene? Do you think it was Anna or Mr. Bates? I wonder if it wasn't his old boss, Mary's suitor?
I like this season, but I too am glad Ms. bunting is gone, I wish Thomas would go too!
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Post by scrappintoee on Feb 4, 2015 19:54:53 GMT
I agree with those who are annoyed by Cora!!!!! I used to enjoy her, now I can barely stand it when she speaks ---ugh, her voice!!! Thomas---oh SO snarky when (name?) asked him if the treatments are changing his feelings towards women, and his mean (FUNNY!) reply which was something about him NEVER being interested in a woman like HER..... (p.s.....I wonder if they're using this to kill him off?) Oh, and I LOVE the subtle flirting between Mr. Mosely (he is SO adorable!) and ....ugh--I can never remember her name!!! LOL at Rosamund's comment to The Dowager about rudeness in old age! I vented about this before---don't worry-----I would NEVER post a future spoiler----I vented in another thread that that PEOPLE magazine mentioned *something* in their general review of the upcoming season, and I am wondering if "IT" is going to happen.....I have a feeling it will, and it makes me MAD that they did that---they should know better! (I will let y'all know WHAT I'm talking about IF it happens or once the season ends, and only in a thread that has a SPOILER warning....I don't like to know what's going to happen, either!!!!) 
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Post by Loydene on Feb 4, 2015 20:05:44 GMT
Flight of Fancy -- alluded to just above ,...
I think we are going to find out that Tony is completely "bent" -- that he and Mr. Greene were cohorts in crime and after Mr. Greene when off their plan, potentially endangering Tony's plans to obtain money and land, and raped Anna, Tony gave him a push into a car.
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Post by scrappintoee on Feb 4, 2015 20:42:57 GMT
loydene....oooooh, never thought of that !!!!!!!!  And I must've been missing something HUGE---I had no idea Tony was after Mary's money and land.....where have I been??? LOL!  I'm also cracking up over THIS bon mot !!!!  : Violet: She keeps talking about her mother being infirm, but I am infirm why doesn't she think about that? Isobel: You are as infirm as Windsor Castle. Oh, and re: Violet's maid leaving 'cuz of her infirm Mum--UGH---her butler---whatever his name is!?!? I just want to PUNCH him !! He has the ugliest voice and TUDE!!!  I don't understand why she'd keep him around----he is always so HORRIBLE to the doctor, thinking it's BENEATH HIM to serve him?  (my sister explained to me that back then, physicians were considered middle-class--i.e....the reason Ugly Butler Boy refuses to serve the doctor----what the.....  ? (**you may recall a few eppies ago, the butler offered everyone cake, except the doctor---and later, tea---to everyone ---except--AGAIN--- the doctor) .... Oh, and when the butler THOUGHT he had gossip on Mary and Tony in the hotel in Liverpool......I LOVE that Violet totallllllly covered for Mary!!!! you GO, Grandmama!!!!
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Post by gale w on Feb 4, 2015 20:47:28 GMT
Spratt. That's one name I always remember. lol
The other one forgotten in this thread was Baxter. Too many B names.
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Post by Loydene on Feb 4, 2015 20:50:19 GMT
loydene....oooooh, never thought of that !!!!!!!!  And I must've been missing something HUGE---I had no idea Tony was after Mary's money and land.....where have I been??? LOL!  WAIT ,,, I don't know the truth of that ... but I couldn't figure out why/how Tony had been so badly written. He presented himself deceptively initially (he came in with Blake, without title, acting like he was against the landed gentry), he lives "simply", he didn't replace his valet wanting to live more "simply". Mary doesn't intend to live simply -- she planned to poach Carson for her big house with that evil newspaper guy.... I just couldn't figure why Tony was written so appealingly and yet, Mary became "turned off" by him --- so I just took a flight of facny -- as I said first!! I'm just guessing .... I have no idea what is going on and I think we will actually find out that the police may have suspicions, but they can't find any proof of anything so maybe we will be able to just leave Bad Ole' Green dead and forgotten!
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Post by Jili on Feb 4, 2015 21:32:19 GMT
Flight of Fancy -- alluded to just above ,... I think we are going to find out that Tony is completely "bent" -- that he and Mr. Greene were cohorts in crime and after Mr. Greene when off their plan, potentially endangering Tony's plans to obtain money and land, and raped Anna, Tony gave him a push into a car. Obviously I have no idea, but this is a really interesting and, I think, plausible theory. Especially given Tony's behavior and words after Mary dumped him.
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Post by cadoodlebug on Feb 4, 2015 21:54:09 GMT
I'll be the odd man out here I love Cora. I think she is wonderful. Gracious, warm, and able to withstand way too many brush offs on the part of her husband--and remember it's HER money! I love dignified women like her who manage to carry on and make everything around her more beautiful because of her goodness and grace. I was just going to post the exact same thing. We have to remember that she is American so I think that gives her a bit of a pass. 
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