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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 19:33:07 GMT
I'm a sort-of Pats fan. Sort-of meaning that I actually watched one game this year -- the Superbowl. Does that make me a fair weather fan? I don't know anything about spygate, but I think deflategate was a big non-issue. My guess was that we'll never know why that ball was low. It could have been for any number of reasons (weather, temperature changes, inaccurate gauges, lousy testing) and I doubt it was cheating. But mostly I don't care.
I thought the parade looked fun from what I caught on the news. I couldn't believe they managed to cram that many people into such snow-covered streets. I thought it looked like a well-behaved crowd and everyone had fun. No riots, no fires, nobody hurt, and nobody killed. Sounds like a good day to me.
Ha Ha! I'm so bored this afternoon that I actually commented on a football thread! Please please let it warm up so I can go for a nice long walk outside.
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Post by momof3pits on Feb 11, 2015 20:00:10 GMT
Well.. I didn't hear about the other two incidents, probably bc football season is over now and it's not being highlighted. And I also wasn't outraged.. More so disappointed that there was yet another issue in football.
As for the crowd noise.. Honestly that seems like a non issue to me. Boohoo, there is extra noise..
As for sticky hands, yes I think that's inexcusable, but what can be done about it now??
You seem to be WAY over invested in this subject and trying to get people to "see the light" about the Patriots. Take some deep breaths, it seems like everything has blown over already, and it's not like they faced any consequences anyways. Enjoy your superbowl win!
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 11, 2015 20:04:11 GMT
Seriously? I never opened the Deflategate thread because I have no interest in football. I opened this one because I was bored. Now I'm sorry I did. You (general you, not the OP in particular) are being rude to gmcwife who is one of the most reasonable, least offensive peas ever?? What utter ridiculousness and childishness over stupid football crap. Thank you Lucy, you are way too sweet   |
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Post by freebird on Feb 11, 2015 20:04:15 GMT
What I've learned this past month:
1. Tango is passionate about football.
2. Freebird doesn't care much about football.
3. I'm hungry.
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Post by freebird on Feb 11, 2015 20:06:15 GMT
Oh.... and KC doesn't HAVE TO pipe in crowd noises. They're pretty much known for being loud with no help.
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Post by gmcwife1 on Feb 11, 2015 20:06:23 GMT
Seriously? I never opened the Deflategate thread because I have no interest in football. I opened this one because I was bored. Now I'm sorry I did. You (general you, not the OP in particular) are being rude to gmcwife who is one of the most reasonable, least offensive peas ever?? What utter ridiculousness and childishness over stupid football crap. I guess rude is in the eye of the beholder. I thought her comment about low class Pats fans was a bit of a rude shot. Perhaps you can tell me where I was being rude because I wasn't trying to be, only responding to the comments. You're right, I should have said SOME Hopefully not all fans thought that was a classy move by the two Pats players (b*tch mode and I forgot what the second poster said). |
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Post by Skellinton on Feb 11, 2015 20:08:16 GMT
What I've learned this past month: 1. Tango is passionate about football. 2. Freebird doesn't care much about football. 3. I'm hungry. I would change number 1 to say "Tango is passionate about the Pats and anyone who doesn't think the Pats are the end all, be all of any team of any sport in the history of the universe and if you don't agree you are a hater and jealous and a poopy head." |
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Post by Yubon Peatlejuice on Feb 11, 2015 20:10:17 GMT
I could not care less about football.
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Post by heather on Feb 11, 2015 20:20:59 GMT
Your team won the Super Bowl. What the fuck else do you want? Sheesh.
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Post by bc2ca on Feb 11, 2015 20:22:25 GMT
You're right! I gave up following football years ago, but despite this, you have convinced me that I am just a jealous, bitter fan who loves to hate on the best team in the whole supreme universe. Your numerous posts and tenacity have made me see the error of my ways. I am now fully embracing the Patriots and pledge to: 1. fully invest myself in rooting out possible improprieties by any other team, player, or coach and castigating those who do not vocally condemn them 2. name my next child or pet either Tom, Brady, or Bill. Suitable girl names are Gillette (Gill, pronounced Jill for a nickname) or Foxborough (I've always wanted to nickname a kid Foxy) 3. from here on out will forgo any clothing in my closet that is not red, blue or silver/white 4. will only eat clam chowder, Boston baked beans, cannolis from Mike's, and Tosci's ice cream on game days 5. let Tom Brady squeeze my bewbies any time he wants Sexual harassment in the workplaceLove Gillette for a girl, but I prefer Foxborough as a boy's name. Just my opinion. The SNL skit is classic  . |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 20:22:59 GMT
 Seriously, ^this^. FTR, I pretty much gave up on football years ago. But of course anyone caught cheating should face consequences. I would say I'm sorry you're feeling so much butthurt over what anyone but you thinks of the Patriots, but it's entertaining.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 11, 2015 20:23:51 GMT
You're surprised that a controversy regarding the AFC Championship game aka the final game that determined who was going to play in the Super Bowl garnered more attention than a controversy regarding a team with such a losing record that they haven't managed to make it into the post season in either of the seasons regarding the controversy? Seriously? And someone dragged up some dirt on Jerry Rice (a player who's been retired a decade) because he had the temerity to malign the poor Patriots and you're surprised people aren't as interested in this controversy? Over 110 MILLION people watch the Super Bowl - it might be considered somewhat of a big deal to even non-football fans. The idea that you're surprised that a controversy regarding the last game of the playoffs is considered pretty newsworthy puzzles me. I thought you were a bit of a football fan.
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Post by christine58 on Feb 11, 2015 20:24:33 GMT
So a few weeks back the sky was falling when Chris Mortensen of ESPN reported that 11 of 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under inflated a full 2psi. It was on the front page of newspapers and all the major news networks lead with it on their evening report, over the State of the Union, the fall of Yemen, ISIS, etc. Even President Obama commented on it. People everywhere were calling for Belichick to be fired, Kraft to surrender draft picks, that Pats to be removed from the Superbowl, etc. etc. etc. Nevermind that Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network is now reporting that only 1 ball was severely under inflated (coincidentally the ball the Colts had in their possession  ) and that the rest were ok or "just a few ticks under", in the minds of the haters the Pats had already been tried and convicted without any need of proof, and there was no punishment severe enough for deflating a football. But there's really no point in debating all this right now until the actual report is released. So fast forward to this week and we have two new cheating scandals, but this time they are not merely accusations of cheating as in the Patriots case, they are actual admissions of cheating. 1. The Atlanta Falcons have been accused of piping crowd noise into their stadium in order to disrupt the opposing team's offense and gain a competitive advantage. The investigation is not complete but the Falcon's owner has already apologized for it. I think most would argue that this is a worse offense than deflating a football, but you would have to agree that it is AT LEAST as bad, yet there have no front page headlines, no network news coverage, and barely covered in ESPN. 2. Jerry Rice, one of the greatest if not the greatest to ever play the game, forgot the old adage about glass houses when he proclaimed that the Patriots were cheaters and should have an asterisk next to their titles. When it got thrown back at him that he had admitted only days earlier that he had used an illegal substance on his hands and gloves to make them more sticky, he claimed everyone was doing it, to which Cris Carter responded that he knows he wasn't doing it so everyone was not doing it. You would think this would be HUUUGGGEE news right? All those records...all those titles...tainted, just like Rice had declared the Patriots records/titles were tainted?! This would be like finding out Hank Aaron corked his bat or Muhammad Ali fixed fights or Lance Armstrong used steroids.... Again, hardly a peep on ESPN or NFL network and certainly not in the mainstream media, except a snicker here and there about Rice tripping himself up. So I ask you...where is the outrage? Of course this is a rhetorical question since I know the deflate gate outrage was not genuine outrage, only hatred/jealousy of one of the greatest teams in NFL history. If we switched the scandals and said the Falcons were deflating footballs and the Patriots were piping in crowd noise then NO ONE would care about deflated footballs and piping in crowd noise would be the worst crime imaginable. Just pointing out the hypocrisy. The outrage was because they were headed to the SUPER BOWL.... And they had gotten nailed before spying on teams. Don't you get it yet??? People love to hate the Patriots* myself included. I think Gronk is an ass and as dumb as a box of rocks. |
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Post by mellyw on Feb 11, 2015 20:45:26 GMT
Here, I'll help you Tango. I'm Detroit Lions fan. That no pass interference call against the Cowboys is one of the worst calls-just kidding-calls I've ever seen in sport. But pit the Detroit Lions against America's team, only outrage was in Detroit, & we all know no one cares about Detroit.  I'll leave one other stink bomb before clearing the area. Anyone who thinks every other team wasn't doing what the Patriots were busted for (spygate), I have a nice shiny bridge for sale. |
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Post by azredhead on Feb 11, 2015 20:51:57 GMT
I haven't even heard 'well they won the SuperBowl because they cheated' at least not with the way the game ended. So I'm not sure what the outrage should be over?! I think that ending kinda stomped out that fire. Both teams acted ridiculous throughout the week of the SuperBowl. Says this Packer fan. I don't feel bad about not being in the SuperBowl AT ALL. (especially with Aaron Rodgers getting MVP) However I do think it's cool that Brady gave the truck to Butler.
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Post by Judy26 on Feb 11, 2015 21:13:59 GMT
Tango1, I think you need to change your name here to your real name, Gisele. And after that can we have a discussion about how you keep your abs so flat and why you allow Tom to wear his hair in some of those ridiculous styles? Oh, and your kids are very cute.
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Post by ginacivey on Feb 11, 2015 21:20:29 GMT
do you ever wonder why do many people vehemently dislike the patriots?
you can't possibly think it's just jealousy
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Post by ginacivey on Feb 11, 2015 21:20:42 GMT
do you ever wonder why do many people vehemently dislike the patriots?
you can't possibly think it's just jealousy
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Post by Anita on Feb 11, 2015 21:20:53 GMT
I didn't think it was possible to hate football any more than I did. This thread has proven me wrong.
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Post by cbet on Feb 11, 2015 21:29:10 GMT
Here, I'll help you Tango. I'm Detroit Lions fan. That no pass interference call against the Cowboys is one of the worst calls-just kidding-calls I've ever seen in sport. But pit the Detroit Lions against America's team, only outrage was in Detroit, & we all know no one cares about Detroit. I'll leave one other stink bomb before clearing the area. Anyone who thinks every other team wasn't doing what the Patriots were busted for (spygate), I have a nice shiny bridge for sale. Melly - I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Packers fan, and I can tell you that I was outraged about that call. Even though I knew that Dallas was going to be easier to beat in the next game than the Lions, so it was to my team's benefit. No, I am outraged because the Lions are going to use that bad call as a rallying cry next season, and they are going to be harder -yet- to beat. And if anyone thinks that the "investigation" is going to do anything but exonerate Brady and Belichick, not happening. There is no way the NFL is ever going to admit that their Super Bowl Champions cheated in a playoff game. So, sorry, OP. I don't really care what the final findings are. I'm far from outraged about any of it, though. It's all really just theatre. |
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Post by LAM88 on Feb 11, 2015 21:38:00 GMT
Interesting how few of you came on to actually respond to my OP but instead just came on to take personal pot shots at me and tell me I'm over-invested and you couldn't care less about football and yadda yadda yadda. You're surprised that a controversy regarding the AFC Championship game aka the final game that determined who was going to play in the Super Bowl garnered more attention than a controversy regarding a team with such a losing record that they haven't managed to make it into the post season in either of the seasons regarding the controversy? Seriously? And someone dragged up some dirt on Jerry Rice (a player who's been retired a decade) because he had the temerity to malign the poor Patriots and you're surprised people aren't as interested in this controversy? Over 110 MILLION people watch the Super Bowl - it might be considered somewhat of a big deal to even non-football fans. The idea that you're surprised that a controversy regarding the last game of the playoffs is considered pretty newsworthy puzzles me. I thought you were a bit of a football fan. Oh I get that it was a bigger deal because it was the Pats and the Superbowl. But but the point was made over and over and over again for the 2 weeks prior to the Superbowl that it didn't matter if the Pats got any advantage or not from deflating footballs, cheating was cheating and it couldn't be tolerated in the NFL. Now suddenly cheating is not such big deal of you're the Falcons. As for Rice, nobody had to drag up old stuff...he admitted it in a piece about the evolution of gloves that aired the Saturday before the AFC Championship game. He said jokingly that "it was a little bit illegal," when actually it was completely illegal. |
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Post by elaine on Feb 11, 2015 21:45:52 GMT
Seriously, ^this^. I would say I'm sorry you're feeling so much butthurt over what anyone but you thinks of the Patriots, but it's entertaining.  Sorry, I've got too much going on in my real life to battle with a zealot on the board this week. I just can't muster the energy to keep beating a dead horse with you, so I'll use a smiley instead.  |
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Post by Darcy Collins on Feb 11, 2015 21:51:45 GMT
LAM88 - Seriously you need to channel you're inner Elsa. No one is being a hypocrite and saying cheating isn't cheating. It's not being highly covered by the media because most people simply don't care. The Falcons' record was 6 and 10. I'm sure the NFL will fine them for their illegal piping. Media coverage is purely driven by ratings. A big controversy before the Super Bowl is going to generate interest. A controversy about a team with a losing record - eh not so much. I expect the NFL to deal with cheating irrespective of media attention - but certainly have no delusions that somehow whether something is on the front page of a newspaper is a sign of anything more than an editor's decision on who cares about a particular story.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 22:04:34 GMT
Interesting how few of you came on to actually respond to my OP but instead just came on to take personal pot shots at me and tell me I'm over-invested and you couldn't care less about football and yadda yadda yadda. You're surprised that a controversy regarding the AFC Championship game aka the final game that determined who was going to play in the Super Bowl garnered more attention than a controversy regarding a team with such a losing record that they haven't managed to make it into the post season in either of the seasons regarding the controversy? Seriously? And someone dragged up some dirt on Jerry Rice (a player who's been retired a decade) because he had the temerity to malign the poor Patriots and you're surprised people aren't as interested in this controversy? Over 110 MILLION people watch the Super Bowl - it might be considered somewhat of a big deal to even non-football fans. The idea that you're surprised that a controversy regarding the last game of the playoffs is considered pretty newsworthy puzzles me. I thought you were a bit of a football fan. Oh I get that it was a bigger deal because it was the Pats and the Superbowl. But but the point was made over and over and over again for the 2 weeks prior to the Superbowl that it didn't matter if the Pats got any advantage or not from deflating footballs, cheating was cheating and it couldn't be tolerated in the NFL. Now suddenly cheating is not such big deal of you're the Falcons. As for Rice, nobody had to drag up old stuff...he admitted it in a piece about the evolution of gloves that aired the Saturday before the AFC Championship game. He said jokingly that "it was a little bit illegal," when actually it was completely illegal.  |
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Post by lindas on Feb 11, 2015 22:06:46 GMT
Good grief, Jerry Rice retired 9 yrs ago and as for piped crowd noise, it doesn't begin to reach the same decimal level that's been recorded at CenturyLink field home of the Seahawks. Most teams pipe in crowd noise at their indoor practice facilities just to get the guys used to it.
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Post by azredhead on Feb 11, 2015 22:13:47 GMT
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Post by PaperAngel on Feb 11, 2015 22:51:28 GMT
My only outrage is the Patriots were allowed to compete in the Super Bowl, after multiple allegations of under-inflated footballs since 2007 & a violation announced during the Playoffs. Comments/opinions from current/former players/coaches/referees/reporters/entertainers/scientists-in-training/fans, reported violations by other teams, alternate theories, numerous press conferences, etc. are irrelevant to the fact the Patriots were reported in possession of numerous under-inflated footballs which violates NFL regulations. Deflategate obviously dominated sports news because it happened during the Playoffs & benefited the Patriots. (Conversely, the violation against the Falcons was reported post-SuperBowl, occurred in two consecutive seasons when the team had a 3-5 home record, was acknowledged by the owner, & will inevitably result in consequences.) Sadly, winning the SuperBowl guarantees the Patriots will escape further suspicions & consequences to protect the NFL's image &/or cronyism. Most football enthusiasts already place a mental asterick next to Patriots' victories since 2000 due to Spygate & Deflategate. Only Patriots fans hold the team in such high regard as "one of the greatest in NFL history," regardless the number of times you falsely state your opinion as fact!
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Post by raindancer on Feb 13, 2015 5:55:00 GMT
Interesting how few of you came on to actually respond to my OP but instead just came on to take personal pot shots at me and tell me I'm over-invested and you couldn't care less about football and yadda yadda yadda. Oh I get that it was a bigger deal because it was the Pats and the Superbowl. But but the point was made over and over and over again for the 2 weeks prior to the Superbowl that it didn't matter if the Pats got any advantage or not from deflating footballs, cheating was cheating and it couldn't be tolerated in the NFL. Now suddenly cheating is not such big deal of you're the Falcons. As for Rice, nobody had to drag up old stuff...he admitted it in a piece about the evolution of gloves that aired the Saturday before the AFC Championship game. He said jokingly that "it was a little bit illegal," when actually it was completely illegal. Ditto |
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Post by Nanner on Feb 13, 2015 13:26:23 GMT
You ... being rude to gmcwife who is one of the most reasonable, least offensive peas ever?? I agree with this. I don't see gmcwife as being bitter at all. She's a kind and lovely person. In the Deflategate thread, she wasn't nasty about it at all. Hey, she's a Seahawks fan, so of course, she's talking up her team and not the opposition. That's pretty darned normal, I'd say. I didn't watch the parade, so I have no idea if anybody was low class or not. I was super disappointed about the deflated ball (balls at the time), and since there was only one, I no longer think they intentionally did it. I still am a huge Pats fan and have been for many years. I am REALLY happy to see this is all coming out the way it is, because I was just so disappointed before. I'm wondering what kind of apologies, if any, will be issued to the Pats. I'm thinking none. |
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Post by boxermom73 on Feb 13, 2015 13:54:33 GMT
I never get these "fans" I don't understand why you care about these " teams " like they are a part of your family or they pay your bills...you are all worked up and they could care less if you dropped off the face of the earth... Lol my hubby and brothers are all crazy fans and all my life I never got it... It's just entertainment.... People take it way to Far... Way more important things to get worked up over.. Ijs
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