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Post by kellybelly77 on Feb 15, 2015 19:40:17 GMT
I thought my rates were low. I charge $150 a week per child. My hours are from 7-5:30. It's amazing how many people don't want to pay that and try to get me to lower my price. You do the math per hour, I'm not making much at all and it's a lot of work. And those who do agree with my pricing want me to provide everything and I just can't afford to do that. It's just so frustrating sometimes. My daycare lady charges me $150 a week also. Back when we started with her 13 years ago it was $130. And she is on the high end! My sister and my friend both pay $120 a week for their small children. I gladly pay her because I trust her. $100 a week wouldn't really be out of line here. My gal watches 6 kids but can watch up to 10 with her license. And since she has been doing this for almost 30 years and is great with kids she is always full.
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Post by thatmarie on Feb 15, 2015 19:41:43 GMT
10.00 an hour is perfectly reasonable for childcare
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Post by leslie132 on Feb 15, 2015 19:42:19 GMT
There was a girl on our swap(as we call it) that wanted everything dirt cheap. He opening line was ALWAYS this.....I'm a single mother trying to make it work with a newborn....it would then go into "can it be as cheap as you can make it" " will you accept less" or "can I have it for free".
She requested a babysitter for her 8 month old from 6AM To 4:30PM at $20 a day. She also wanted him to be the only child. as in she wanted you to not have a child because her little one doesn't care for others right now and she really wanted him focus on!
Best post was 3 days later when she bought a coach purse for $75 for herself. Needed no discounts for that sucker. ( she was caught reselling all of her cheap items for more money on a different swap)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 19:57:45 GMT
There was a girl on our swap(as we call it) that wanted everything dirt cheap. He opening line was ALWAYS this.....I'm a single mother trying to make it work with a newborn....it would then go into "can it be as cheap as you can make it" " will you accept less" or "can I have it for free". She requested a babysitter for her 8 month old from 6AM To 4:30PM at $20 a day. She also wanted him to be the only child. as in she wanted you to not have a child because her little one doesn't care for others right now and she really wanted him focus on! Best post was 3 days later when she bought a coach purse for $75 for herself. Needed no discounts for that sucker. ( she was caught reselling all of her cheap items for more money on a different swap) I had watched a little girl for a lady, that was supposed to be a permanent thing. But on day one she wrote us a check for the week. She then proceeded to pick her child up 2 hours late, without a phone call. Meaning I close at 5:30 and she decided to show up at 7:30. I called and called and no answer on her cell phone. i called her ex husband no answer. I was about to call the police when she finally showed up. She said to me, that I have to expect her to be late and to expect traffic. I'm sorry, she worked 20 minutes away...how does traffic on a normal day delay her 2 hours! To top it off the check she wrote was fraudulent. When we called her out on that she started screaming and hollering at me saying she had purses that are worth more than I make in a year! Well, maybe she needed to sell those very expensive purses and pay for her daughters babysitter! Needless to say that her darling little girl (and yes, the little one was cute) was not allowed back in my home. That woman was SCARY!!
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Post by tiffanytwisted on Feb 15, 2015 20:04:57 GMT
I never understood why people would expect someone else to get paid less than minimum wage to care for their kids so that they can go to work and get paid more. Having someone to care for the child is part of the package. Just like buying food and diapers. Are you suggesting parents need to pay minimum wage for each child in a day care? That would add up to far more than minimum wage for the provider. In California, one worker can watch six children (four if they're babies). That would add up to $40-$60 per hour at minimum wage. I pay $30 for a half-day including pickup at kindergarten or $40 for a full-day. But I get the "friends" rate. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg) I see what you're saying - depending on how many kids she's watching, she could very well be raking it in. However, how else would it work? The first person she takes in pays $10 and everyone who comes in after would pay less? Or you have 4 kids and expect her to watch them all for $10/hr.? Really wouldn't be fair. Most daycare providers (both home based & facilities) do give a discount for siblings, but if they have more than one child in their care, they do end up making more than minimum wage. FWIW, we live in a high cost of living area and $100/wk really wouldn't fly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 20:08:15 GMT
I feel bad, though, for people who can't afford to pay much for daycare. I never understood why people would expect someone else to get paid less than minimum wage to care for their kids so that they can go to work and get paid more. Having someone to care for the child is part of the package. Just like buying food and diapers. Yeah, but things change and unexpected things happen. Not everyone who has children makes more than minimum wage.
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Post by myshelly on Feb 15, 2015 20:10:05 GMT
I never understood why people would expect someone else to get paid less than minimum wage to care for their kids so that they can go to work and get paid more. Having someone to care for the child is part of the package. Just like buying food and diapers. Yeah, but things change and unexpected things happen. Not everyone who has children makes more than minimum wage. That doesn't mean that anyone else should work for less than minimum wage just to help them out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 20:10:54 GMT
Yeah, but things change and unexpected things happen. Not everyone who has children makes more than minimum wage. That doesn't mean that anyone else should work for less than minimum wage just to help them out. I didn't say it did. All I sad was, I feel poorly for people who don't make much money and have to pay for childcare. It's expensive.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 15, 2015 20:12:01 GMT
Are you suggesting parents need to pay minimum wage for each child in a day care? That would add up to far more than minimum wage for the provider. In California, one worker can watch six children (four if they're babies). That would add up to $40-$60 per hour at minimum wage. I pay $30 for a half-day including pickup at kindergarten or $40 for a full-day. But I get the "friends" rate. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg) I see what you're saying - depending on how many kids she's watching, she could very well be raking it in. However, how else would it work? The first person she takes in pays $10 and everyone who comes in after would pay less? Or you have 4 kids and expect her to watch them all for $10/hr.? Really wouldn't be fair. Most daycare providers (both home based & facilities) do give a discount for siblings, but if they have more than one child in their care, they do end up making more than minimum wage. FWIW, we live in a high cost of living area and $100/wk really wouldn't fly. I totally agree. I'm just saying that each child in a multi-child daycare doesn't need to pay minimum wage in order for the provider to make a decent income. Every situation is going to be different and the provider can figure out how much she needs/wants to charge per child. Someone who takes in one kid might charge minimum wage. Someone who takes in six kids can charge half that and still make a good hourly wage.
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Post by lucyg on Feb 15, 2015 20:13:28 GMT
Yeah, but things change and unexpected things happen. Not everyone who has children makes more than minimum wage. That doesn't mean that anyone else should work for less than minimum wage just to help them out. Again, they aren't working for less than minimum wage if they're watching multiple children who pay less than minimum wage each.
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Post by AnotherPea on Feb 15, 2015 20:14:25 GMT
Ok, things change. But why is that the babysitter's problem? Why should anyone expect her to pick up the mother's slack? Why should a babysitter have a lower standard of living, or even the same standard of living, just because someone wasn't fully prepared to have a child?
My niece has an in-home daycare. She spends a lot of money to keep it going to her standards. She has shared with me how mothers, looking for childcare, will get downright nasty about her rates. I don't know what they are, but they are apparently pretty high for the area. I don't understand it. If you don't like the cost, find some place else or stay home to take care of your own children. Those rates are what it takes for my niece to have a comfortable standard of living while providing a really nice environment for the children she watches.
Someone once complained to her that her house was nicer than the prospective family's house. As if the childcare provider should live in squalor while the mother should be in a McMansion. Crazy
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Post by gypsymama on Feb 15, 2015 20:16:11 GMT
most people i know barely make $10 an hour, how on earth could they pay $10 an hour for child care? Is that true? Most people you know barely make $10/hour? Are you in a really rural area? The only people I know who make $10/hour are high school kids working retail/fast food. Cost of living in my area is really high though. yes absolutely. i'm in central texas. our minimum wage is $7.25 and that's what you get if you're sacking groceries or working fast food. i'm a school bus aide and i make close to 9, teacher aides start at 8, our bus drivers start at 12 i think but its only 5 hours a day. my dh has been driving a truck for 34 years and makes 600-800 a week, it varies a lot but certainly not enough to pay $10/hour for daycare! when i worked daycare, making minimum wage, we had 6-8 babies in the room, i didn't make that much per child... i made it per hour. so if i charged 100 per child and had 6 kids in my care i'd make 600 a week. but anyway, no, i realize my finances are not normal where 2peas is concerned.
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Post by lesleyanne on Feb 15, 2015 20:39:12 GMT
Babies in my area pay $1600 a month. That's in licensed care where the maximum number of infants 0-18 months is three per caregiver. Honestly, I think that's about right: caregiver had enough income and enough energy/time to devote to the littles. That would include food and consumables but not diapers.
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Post by Gillyflower on Feb 15, 2015 20:59:42 GMT
Hah! My coworker pays $85 per child, per day (full time care).
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Post by Crack-a-lackin on Feb 15, 2015 22:00:41 GMT
Is that true? Most people you know barely make $10/hour? Are you in a really rural area? The only people I know who make $10/hour are high school kids working retail/fast food. Cost of living in my area is really high though. yes absolutely. i'm in central texas. our minimum wage is $7.25 and that's what you get if you're sacking groceries or working fast food. i'm a school bus aide and i make close to 9, teacher aides start at 8, our bus drivers start at 12 i think but its only 5 hours a day. my dh has been driving a truck for 34 years and makes 600-800 a week, it varies a lot but certainly not enough to pay $10/hour for daycare! when i worked daycare, making minimum wage, we had 6-8 babies in the room, i didn't make that much per child... i made it per hour. so if i charged 100 per child and had 6 kids in my care i'd make 600 a week. but anyway, no, i realize my finances are not normal where 2peas is concerned. It is shocking how different things are in different areas of the country. Our minimum wage is almost $10. I have no idea what teachers make (not near enough, whatever it is) but i do know a full-time grocery checker and one who does customer service work and they make around $40k/year. Most people I know work in an office and make significantly more. However, houses average $450K here. From watching HGTV shows I think houses in TX are around $100K? I think even if you did some kind of math voodoo (that I can't do ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg) ) we're probably not as far apart as it seems.
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Post by PNWMom on Feb 15, 2015 22:03:45 GMT
I live in Seattle and am planning ahead for childcare for next year (not pregnant yet, but good possibility of twins), and it is pretty much $1500 at LEAST per child per month for full-time/40 hours a week of care. By far the most expensive part of having a child. Don't even get me started on the costs for twins...
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Post by AnotherPea on Feb 15, 2015 22:13:32 GMT
I live in Seattle and am planning ahead for childcare for next year (not pregnant yet, but good possibility of twins), and it is pretty much $1500 at LEAST per child per month for full-time/40 hours a week of care. By far the most expensive part of having a child. Don't even get me started on the costs for twins... As it should be. Childcare SHOULD be the most expensive part of having a child. Someone is protecting, nurturing, feeding and loving someone else's child for them. Giving that child everything he/she needs for most of his/her waking hours. In most cases, spending more time with the baby than his/her own mother. Of course it should be the most considered and most expensive part of having a child.
Kudos to you for planning ahead.
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Post by tincin on Feb 15, 2015 22:50:56 GMT
While I believe that is very low for a person making a good wage, not everyone makes over $20 an hour. Not all babies are planned and not all people have the option to stay at home. Those parents also need daycare and they are looking for quality daycare at a low price. It is probably difficult to find but I am certain there are other parents who would rather stay home and take in a couple of kids for low wages. I don't believe that makes anyone in the scenario a bad person but rather a poor person.
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Post by mochi on Feb 16, 2015 0:00:01 GMT
$100 for 47 hours is unbelievable! That's just insane. Isn't the original poster concerned about attracting a weirdo sitter?
We pay $320 a month for swim lessons, 30 minutes, 2x a week. So 4 hours is $320.
I wouldn't be able to trust a daycare or sitter that is cheaper than our swim lessons and I am there watching swim.
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Post by txdancermom on Feb 16, 2015 0:02:27 GMT
that is what I paid for a toddler 25 years ago.....somehow I think that is wishful thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 0:35:11 GMT
$100 for 47 hours is unbelievable! That's just insane. Isn't the original poster concerned about attracting a weirdo sitter? We pay $320 a month for swim lessons, 30 minutes, 2x a week. So 4 hours is $320. I wouldn't be able to trust a daycare or sitter that is cheaper than our swim lessons and I am there watching swim. wow, so someone charging less than $80/hr isn't trustworthy? I didn't realize the more An individual charges, the more worthy of trust they are.
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Post by angieh1996 on Feb 16, 2015 0:49:40 GMT
I charge $150 a week for full time. That's pretty normal rate in my area. I'm open from 7-5:30. I provide all meals and activities. The only thing I make parents provide is formula & diapers.
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Post by johnnysmom on Feb 16, 2015 0:56:17 GMT
There's so many factors that it's impossible to know exactly why a person charges what they charge. My sitter (who charged $100/wk for a baby....though actually I got a sibling discount so it was probably $120) had several kids who were state funded. I don't know what the state was paying for daycare/kid but she accepted them. She also got reimbursed by the state for food as long as she served the state minimum requirements. She could have up to 12 kids (with an assistant). There were of course tax write-offs for running a business from her home. And the non-financial benefits of being home when her kids got home from school. Her husband worked swing shift so her having a job outside the home would have been challenging.
From a parent point of view, we totally lucked into her. She had closed previously when her dad got real sick, just by chance she opened back up right after 2nd DS was born. But we were prepared to pay $150-180/wk at a center closer to my office. One of the reason our kids are 9 years apart (they were supposed to be 5 years, just so we didn't have such high child care bills, but that plan went to hell). It drives me crazy when people have kids knowing full well they can't afford child care then expect their moms or someone else to babysit for free, every day.
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Post by scrappinghappy on Feb 16, 2015 1:11:20 GMT
DH and I just had a conversation based on this thread because the income across the nation is just so disparate. And childcare costs seem so different from place to place too.
Thank you for sharing your stories.
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Post by whipea on Feb 16, 2015 1:17:01 GMT
I pay more than that for dog daycare.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 1:17:22 GMT
However, houses average $450K here. From watching HGTV shows I think houses in TX are around $100K? I think even if you did some kind of math voodoo (that I can't do ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg) ) we're probably not as far apart as it seems. A $250,000 home in my town is 7 bedrooms, 4 bathrooms, 4465 sq feet on over half an acre. The closest I could find to $450 K is a 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom manufactured home that sits on 12.3 acres for $850,000. I giggle every time one of these threads are started. The cost of living can be very low in some areas of the United States. Where I live, the majority of the jobs are blue collar. It has nothing to do with throwing the kids to the wolves because you are some cheap a$$ parent. ![:laugh:](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/Ivm7lm0DayrhoRpwvCeH.jpg)
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Post by melanell on Feb 16, 2015 1:48:31 GMT
She never said it was anyone else's problem. She didn't say that the caregiver should take less than they need in order to help this person. She just said that she feels bad for them, and that their current situation may not be due to a lack of planning when they first had their child. It is possible to simply feel bad for one person's difficulties without trying to foist the resolution of said problem on to another person's shoulders. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/5645536/images/MNrJDkDuSwqIMVw33MdD.jpg)
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Post by melanell on Feb 16, 2015 1:54:15 GMT
$100 for 47 hours is unbelievable! That's just insane. Isn't the original poster concerned about attracting a weirdo sitter? We pay $320 a month for swim lessons, 30 minutes, 2x a week. So 4 hours is $320. I wouldn't be able to trust a daycare or sitter that is cheaper than our swim lessons and I am there watching swim. So you pay your babysitters $80 an hour?? And that's what you would expect someone who needed 40 hours plus of day care a week to pay on an hourly basis? So $3200.00 plus per week for daycare? Interesting.
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Post by mochi on Feb 16, 2015 2:32:58 GMT
melanell & ashley - No, I wouldn't pay $80 an hour for a sitter, but I would expect to pay more than $320 a week for a sitter watching my child 47 hours a week. That's what I was saying. $320 @ 47 hours is only $6.80 an hour, which isn't even a good pay. I pay our 16 year old sitter $12 hourly plus tip.
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Post by msbee on Feb 16, 2015 2:44:47 GMT
most people i know barely make $10 an hour, how on earth could they pay $10 an hour for child care? Is that true? Most people you know barely make $10/hour? Are you in a really rural area? The only people I know who make $10/hour are high school kids working retail/fast food. Cost of living in my area is really high though. Seriously? Do you only know college graduates with jobs they can support a family on? Where do you live?
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