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Post by Karmady on Feb 21, 2015 18:09:28 GMT
Amen to that danalz. I love setting my own schedule. I also do some work managing an online database for a large website. The work needs to be done on Wed and a bit on Thursday morning. However, I can do it on my computer, in my pjs and on my couch. It's about 5 hours. That's why I don't like booking workshops on Wed or Thursday. Too hectic for me  OMG, that is awful. It's no wonder teacher's are so burnt out and discouraged. It's much different in Canada. Teaching is always exhausting (and rewarding) but here they are well compensated and have a great pension plan.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Feb 21, 2015 18:35:14 GMT
i'm a former teacher, well now I do training and marketing for a business coach. I have done mostly training since I stopped teaching. I like working with adults.
I know a lot sales jobs, like pharmaceuticals like teachers because sales often requires you to explain the benefits and features of a product
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Post by donna on Feb 21, 2015 19:28:34 GMT
I am watching this thread as well. I LOVE my time in the classroom with my kids, but all the time outside of the classroom is killing me. I have a long way to retirement and the expectations for us keep climbing every year. I work harder now that I did even as a first year teacher.
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Post by gorgeouskid on Feb 21, 2015 19:35:56 GMT
I'm planning to retire as soon as it's possible for me, at age 55. That is a ways off, but I'm still thinking of what I'll do after that birthday.
One avenue I plan to research is curriculum and games development. Lakeshore Learning isn't too far from me, and one of my former fellow educators works there developing educational games and writing curriculum guides. That really sounds up my alley. I've looked into it, but it won't work for my situation now, but when DS graduates and heads off to college, it could be ideal.
I'd really like to sit on the sofa, read, and eat bonbons, but DH assures me that those pursuits aren't in line with our financial and social goals. Oh well.
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Post by maurchclt on Feb 21, 2015 19:44:30 GMT
Reading these posts just makes me sad, sad for all you wonderful teachers now faced with endless years ahead of BS ,on the part of the state, administration etc. I retired after 30 years and still loved teaching, still felt joy almost every day. Teaching was fun, it's too bad testing has turned it into a business.
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Post by monklady123 on Feb 21, 2015 19:50:31 GMT
Subs in my district can only work 3.5 days/week. They are paid $61.00 for a full day. $68.00 if you have a teaching license.  Subs here make over $100 for a 7.5 hour day. We can work five days a week and there's enough work that we could work every day every week if we wanted. I know $100 per day still isn't a lot, but for a flexible part-time job I think it's great. I can work when and where I want, and I love kids. However, maybe it's not great for a real certified teacher? I don't know, but since I'm not certified I think it's good. I just thought it might be something interesting for a retired teacher, if they didn't need benefits (i.e., covered by spouse's health insurance, etc.)
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Post by pyccku on Feb 21, 2015 19:59:33 GMT
I've got 20 years in. 9 left until I have my 80 points and could take early retirement. I had wanted to stay until maybe 60, but I don't see that happening. The amount of BS that is going on is unbelievable. The morale on my campus is the worst that I've ever seen and we have an admin that just seems to be tone-deaf to how to fix it - they just keep digging themselves a bigger hole. I don't know if they realize just how many teachers are looking to transfer at the end of the year - but pretty much everyone on the faculty is expecting to see a mass exodus.
Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday is the high-stakes test. We have a special schedule, we've been working with kids all year to prepare them, our PBP is tied to their performance. Friday afternoon at 4, the powers that be announced that students will no longer be required to pass the test to graduate. They may choose to take the test for scholarships, etc. but there is no price for not passing. So how many are going to show up on Monday to test? If I were a student, I wouldn't bother. And I sure hope that they figure out that it's really unfair to judge teacher performance pay on whether or not the students do well on a test that does not have any affect on them whatsoever, and that they aren't even required to take unless they really want to.
Now we have a Superintendent of Education who is a total whack job and has already started clashing with the governor. And the legislature wants to pass a bill that removes deseg funding - in my district that means 500+ jobs, mostly teachers. In one school, that would be 80 teachers and 5 admin. Where do they think all of the kids who attend that school will go if they cut teaching staff by 80? There are only 5 admin at the school - now all of them will be gone? If I were a parent, I'd be raising holy hell.
So, what is my plan...well, I've started up my store on TPT and I'm starting to build up a nice inventory of items. It's not much, but at the moment I've been getting $100/month for the past couple of months. Considering it was $5-10/month for the first several months, it's nice to see the jump. I'll keep plugging away and maybe someday I'll have a decent source of passive income!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 20:17:41 GMT
I'm homeschooling my children so I'm still teaching. But I don't have to put up with the nonsense some of you are dealing with. I hate to hear these kinds of stories. So sad!
In 5 years both of my kids will be done with high school. I don't see myself returning to a classroom after that. Ideally, I'd like to combine my love of teaching with another passion. But what? I love to cook. I enjoy reading and writing. Hmmmm, I need to start thinking ahead.
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Post by moodyblue on Feb 21, 2015 20:48:57 GMT
I've joked for years about trying to figure out my second career - but it wasn't all a joke. I'm actually eligible for full retirement already, but I don't feel we are in a strong enough financial position yet; I'd like to either have the mortgage paid off or be pretty close to,that before either/both of us retire.
Add in the fact that I am in Illinois - where the past governor's plan to fix the "pension problem" (involving cutting teacher pensions in lots of ways) will be heard before the state Supreme Court in a couple weeks, with the state arguing they can do this because it's an emergency and the other side (mine) arguing that it's against the state constitution. Plus, our new governor, who wants to model himself after Gov. Walker in Wisconsin, has plans that would drastically change pensions too. No idea if he'll get anywhere near doing that, but there is a ton of uncertainty about the future of the pensions for teachers.
I might have to suddenly retire should the Court rule that the state can set aside the constitution, if the ruling and plan say that those already retired wouldn't have their base pension cut. Otherwise, I'm hanging on, trying to increase the number of years in and base pension, we are throwing more extra principle onto the mortgage payment, and I'm keeping my eyes open for things I could do after retirement to earn extra money to make up what might become a shortfall in income. And no, I have never in my life wanted to sub - and finances for school districts here are so tight that many are reducing non-teaching positions, and also cutting classroom positions and special area teachers.
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Post by JustCallMeMommy on Feb 21, 2015 20:53:15 GMT
I have hired several former teachers to be corporate trainers.
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Post by pyccku on Feb 21, 2015 20:57:39 GMT
What's really sad is that I keep seeing posts on "10 careers to do after teaching" on FB. I know so many who are looking for a non-teaching position now.
What will happen if all of the people who CAN get out of teaching? It will make any problems we have so much worse. Really, it adds a new spin to the old saying: Those who can (get out), those who can't (get out), teach!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 21:02:30 GMT
We're going to be facing a serious shortage of qualified, competent teachers within the next decade. What a mess. I wonder what it's going to take for our society to wake up and realize how important and valuable good teachers are.
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Post by pyccku on Feb 21, 2015 21:13:58 GMT
We're going to be facing a serious shortage of qualified, competent teachers within the next decade. What a mess. I wonder what it's going to take for our society to wake up and realize how important and valuable good teachers are. When we get caught unawares by some threat we never saw coming and have no way to deal with.
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Post by Merge on Feb 21, 2015 21:22:23 GMT
We're going to be facing a serious shortage of qualified, competent teachers within the next decade. What a mess. I wonder what it's going to take for our society to wake up and realize how important and valuable good teachers are. It's my opinion that the end game of the "reformers" and Pearson is to have every child learning at a computer terminal, monitored by low-paid adults with no particular qualifications. When that happens, it won't matter that no one is left who wants to be a professional teacher.
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Post by librarylady on Feb 21, 2015 21:24:41 GMT
I taught for 8 years, then worked in the business world for 16 years--went back to school and became a school librarian. I retired 5 years ago.
The first year I did very little, it was a time to rest and recover. Then I signed up to do volunteer work at the local historical park. The first 6 months I organized the research library for the director. Since then, I have given tours to school age children who come to the park for a field trip. (2 days per week, but only 3 hours on a day) Additionally, I do Meals on Wheels (as a sub) about 1 day per quarter. I belong to a Linus Blanket sewing group (1 day per month for meeting and otherwise I do it at home). Two Wednesdays per month I participate in our church's social activities for retirees. One day per month I meet with friends from my school (all retired) and we have lunch and talk. I visit church members who are hospitalized. I plan to work in a food pantry once day per month, but have not scheduled it yet. We travel a little also. I will garden when spring comes.
You will be surprised how fast your time fills up--even with being laid back and only doing what pleases you.
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Post by littlefish on Feb 21, 2015 21:35:25 GMT
I'm currently an adjunct at a large university. I really enjoy teaching higher ed. If the opportunity came up, I'd strongly consider leaving my current position to do that. I also would consider doing something related to curriculum.
I actually tried to get on with the education programs at Disney once, but they said I was *too* qualified.
I went into teaching with the mindset that I wouldn't be a career classroom teacher. I still don't believe I will be. For now though, so long as I'm a single income household, I'll tough it out.
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Post by 950nancy on Feb 21, 2015 21:47:06 GMT
I am looking forward to solving this problem myself. This May, I will have the opportunity to retire. I can get 80% of my current salary. I will turn fifty and it will be the last day with kids. How is that for perfect timing. I have been teaching 28 years and I bought four years from SS. My husband retired almost two years ago. He put in wood floors, painted the inside of the house, made the garage all pretty, and then got a little bored. He started teaching one day a week at the college. This year he does two days and enjoys that. Our dogs have loved his retirement. They get walked twice a day. He also works out 5 times a week and has started reading again. He loves it; he thinks I will be bored. I say give me the chance to find out! I plan on making page kits for a friend's business. I also plan on decluttering the entire house. It isn't bad, but needs a good thorough tossing.
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Post by Nicole in TX on Feb 21, 2015 21:51:28 GMT
Subs in my district make $80 a day. If you subbed every day that would be $1600 a month… before taxes...Well below half of what I currently make. There's no way I could survive on that. Lol. That's why I said "if you don't need health or other benefits..."  So if you don't need healthcare, other benefits, OR income... 
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Post by J u l e e on Feb 21, 2015 22:03:55 GMT
We're going to be facing a serious shortage of qualified, competent teachers within the next decade. What a mess. I wonder what it's going to take for our society to wake up and realize how important and valuable good teachers are. It's my opinion that the end game of the "reformers" and Pearson is to have every child learning at a computer terminal, monitored by low-paid adults with no particular qualifications. When that happens, it won't matter that no one is left who wants to be a professional teacher. ::shudder::
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Post by annaintx on Feb 21, 2015 22:13:42 GMT
I taught for 3 years in the public schools, then left and went to get my PhD. (I already had my master's once I started teaching). I was fortunate because I could be a full time student but did work as a student teacher supervisor for several years. After I got my degree, I was unable to find the kind of job I wanted in higher education since we are "stuck" in this city for my DH's work. He will make more money than I ever can so we had to stay here. I worked as adjunct faculty at a private university here temporarily, and I ended up getting a job as adjunct faculty at a state school. I taught classes in the College of Education as adjunct (which pays NOTHING) faculty and was finally hired as a staff position. My job is part time as I am home with DD as needed and I can work from home as needed, too. My job is OK, it's very flexible and it keeps me in contact with lots of public schools and teachers. But this isn't what I had in mind when I went to get my PhD.
My former boss at the university was an elementary school teacher for several years, then left to stay home with her kids. She got the job at the university and after 5 years she left and is now working in educational publishing.
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Post by Anita on Feb 21, 2015 22:31:49 GMT
My husband left teaching and now works for the federal government.
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Post by stampinbetsy on Feb 21, 2015 22:35:24 GMT
I taught elementary school for 9 years (there was a 1 year break after year 3). I worked as a pet trainer and pricing specialist for Petsmart for 2 years, then started my current position. I am an administrative assistant for a company that moves senior citizens. The pay is not nearly as much as teaching (and I miss having summers and school breaks off), but it doesn't drive me nearly as crazy as teaching did. I think I would have enjoyed being a trainer of some kind, but I don't have the education or experience.
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Post by tidegirl on Feb 22, 2015 0:17:16 GMT
There was a satire article in The Onion from Feb. 19, 2015. The article is titled: New Education Initiative Replaces K -12 Curriculum with a Single Standardized Test I can get the link to work (even following the forum directions-it stays broken) The article is satire but who knows if it is pure fiction?!  Things have changed so much since I went to school to become a teacher. I love what I do but I find it very hard to balance everything for my job and have a life outside of the classroom. I too am actively looking for a post teaching career. Jobs are limited in my local community. There is a large university. Many (if not most) teachers who leave teaching here either 1. move away or 2. get a job at the university as a student adviser.
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Post by christine58 on Feb 22, 2015 0:42:23 GMT
I could have retired a year ago...am going to retire in June of 2016. I know that I am going to have to have something to do...NOT SUBBING that's for sure. I will volunteer and travel...but will need something else I think.
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Post by monklady123 on Feb 22, 2015 1:08:09 GMT
Lol. That's why I said "if you don't need health or other benefits..."  So if you don't need healthcare, other benefits, OR income...  Lol. Well for us the extra income *is* needed. We have two in college and any extra can be put to use somewhere. I realize that subs don't make much. But for me it's the perfect job to supplement our family's income. I'm on call at a local hospital and on the nights that I spend at the hospital I can choose not to sub the next day. If I had a regular part time job somewhere -- office, retail, whatever -- and if I had hours scheduled for that next day after being on call I'd have to go in. If I didn't I'd risk losing my job. So subbing is excellent. If I work a weekend at the hospital I do not take a sub job for Monday. If I'm on call on Friday night I can work all that week, even Friday, knowing that I'll probably be able to sleep on Friday night. If not -- if there's an emergency that needs me at the hospital -- well, adrenalin will tide me over and then I'll sleep Sunday. Subbing is also good, for me anyway, because I hate routine. This is why I love hospital work -- there is never a day that's exactly like the previous one. And with subbing I can choose which school to go to, which grade to sub in, etc. And also, I love kids. So, for me, it's a perfect extra-income job.  I know that there are retired teachers who do subbing in this county because I've run into them while on a job. They love teaching and just wanted to continue that part of it.
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Post by judy on Feb 22, 2015 1:33:18 GMT
I have been in education for 22 years, 17 as a classroom teacher, the rest a mix of maternity leave (home with my own children) part-time gifted resource and full time gifted resource. This past summer I completed coursework for my library endorsement and this year I began a new position as an elementary media specialist. I'm the librarian and technology specialist for my k-5 school. I absolutely love it and can honestly say it rekindled my passion for teaching, which has dwindled the last few years. I still have about 12 more years before retirement and that no longer terrifies me 
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Post by TankTop on Feb 22, 2015 1:43:06 GMT
I would love to be a media specialist. However, our local schools hire part time aides to man the library.
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Post by mssue on Feb 22, 2015 2:19:37 GMT
I retired several years ago, but I missed teaching. I now tutor three days a week,and I love it. Late to school..early to leave(8:30-2:30). No duties,no lesson plans to write, or papers to grade. What's not to like. 
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Post by mssue on Feb 22, 2015 2:26:17 GMT
OK I'm posting again so I won't be a One Post Wonder!!! I taught gifted classes 2-5 grades. I was reluctant to retire,but dh was home, and I thought I should be too.
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Post by irisheyes on Feb 22, 2015 2:30:14 GMT
I resigned this year - things are just too crazy in my district and I want to help my adult kids and grand-kids more. I am going to try to finish my novel this year and then see what comes up. I may take another teaching job in a different district.
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