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Post by peasapie on Feb 28, 2015 3:19:53 GMT
My daughter says all of the sudden. I say all of a sudden. She thinks she's right.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Feb 28, 2015 3:30:18 GMT
A PM would be a kind way to enlighten someone. This ^ Personally I can't think of anyone that likes or appreciates being embarrassed publicly To me a PM is almost worse. If this post was meant for someone specifically here. It seems like bullying. If the OP was just venting here instead of say Facebook.... fine. Unless you are the person who made the mistake's parent or teacher, then you should STFU and go fix something about yourself!!
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Post by gryroagain on Feb 28, 2015 3:35:23 GMT
I always say it "all ovasudden" anyway, so since I can't enunciate for shit, it doesn't matter if it's right or wrong.
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Post by oaksong on Feb 28, 2015 4:12:53 GMT
You should of politely corrected them.
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Post by eebud on Feb 28, 2015 4:26:45 GMT
I see posts sometimes that I cringe a little when I read them due to the grammar; however, I am also one who does not proof read my posts and I can't count the number of times I have said a word as I was typing a response only to reread my response and realize I left the word out completely in my typed response. Therefore, I tend to try to give people the benefit of a doubt because I know how much I screw up. And, I am a fairly bright person! LOL
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Post by eebud on Feb 28, 2015 4:28:10 GMT
I see posts sometimes that I cringe a little when I read them due to the grammar; however, I am also one who does not proof read my posts and I can't count the number of times I have said a word as I was typing a response only to reread my response and realize I left the word out completely in my typed response. Therefore, I tend to try to give people the benefit of a doubt because I know how much I screw up. And, I am a fairly bright person! LOL ETA...............And, I don't want anyone correcting me online or in private message. If I reread a response that I left a word out, I know it without anyone pointing out the err of my ways.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 5:59:26 GMT
No, I'm not calling anyone out. It's something I see all the time, here, on Facebook, even hear it on the radio. Slacker says it all the time. I saw it and wanted to comment on the appropriate term. So if I was calling out, the actual list of who and where I've seen and heard it would be too long to list here.
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Post by Goldynn on Feb 28, 2015 8:50:12 GMT
Another who doesn't want to be corrected on a mb, especially by a pm. I made a spelling error in a post a few days ago, spotted it after I posted, but didn't go back to correct it. I figured everyone knew what I meant and I just didn't have a lot of time.
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Post by DEX on Feb 28, 2015 13:44:44 GMT
This ^ Personally I can't think of anyone that likes or appreciates being embarrassed publicly To me a PM is almost worse. If this post was meant for someone specifically here. It seems like bullying. If the OP was just venting here instead of say Facebook.... fine. Unless you are the person who made the mistake's parent or teacher, then you should STFU and go fix something about yourself!! In my opinion, you are way off base. Pointing out a grammatical error is NOT the same thing as bullying. Calling someone stupid and backward would be bullying behavior. The world isn't all unicorn farts and rainbows. I disagree that it is bullying..."harsh" would describe it better for me.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Feb 28, 2015 13:51:20 GMT
The correct way comes automatically for me, so it's difficult for me to be sympathetic to people who don't use language correctly. Ah, a believer in Chomskyan linguistics, a theory that language is innate ("Universal Grammar").
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Post by momstime on Feb 28, 2015 14:32:33 GMT
Step 1. Place a rubber band on your wrist Step 2. Open message board Step 3. Scan posts looking for errors Step 4. Locate error Step 5. Snap rubber band on wrist Step 6. Repeat until satisfied
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Post by styxgirl on Feb 28, 2015 16:52:11 GMT
Originally, I thought the title of this post was a joke.
I'm not an English major. I'm also not ill-educated.
I have never heard "all of A sudden"
I have ways heard/said "all of THE sudden"
If I heard:read "all of A sudden", I would think "oops, they made a little mistake"
Regardless of the OP's intention ... All of a sudden, I'm smarter!
(Still sounds weird though ...)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:13:22 GMT
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Post by anonrefugee on Feb 28, 2015 18:29:48 GMT
It's a common phrase, almost a cliche when spoken. Haven't we learned those have a way of being different from region to region?
Spelling errors used to bother me, now I'm typing on a keyboard smaller than my drivers license. It's made me more understanding and accepting of mistakes in a relaxed setting.
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Post by TheOtherMeg on Feb 28, 2015 21:02:30 GMT
For those who feel compelled to correct others, I do think a (kindly worded) PM is less harsh than a thread to call someone out or a handslappy post.
I think most people just let it go, though. I tend to blame autocorrect, typing on a tiny cell screen with a crappy keyboard, or the fact that many sayings or word/phrase choices are regional.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 21:22:29 GMT
I do think a (kindly worded) PM is less harsh than a thread to call someone out or a handslappy post. Good thing then. This isn't a thread to call someone out.
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Post by AussieMeg on Feb 28, 2015 22:38:18 GMT
I recently returned the favor by informing him that you should never end a sentence with a preposition. Ah but it is becoming more acceptable these days to end a sentence or a phrase with a preposition, as I have read in several publications. From top of the google machine: I'd like to point out that I didn't post this to correct you or shame you. Up until recently I was always one who avoided ending sentences with a preposition, because that's what I'd been taught at school, but I was aware that sometimes during normal conversation I sounded like a right twat. When I first read that it is now acceptable, it was like I'd been freed from the shackles of Victorian times!!
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Mar 1, 2015 6:32:52 GMT
To me a PM is almost worse. If this post was meant for someone specifically here. It seems like bullying. If the OP was just venting here instead of say Facebook.... fine. Unless you are the person who made the mistake's parent or teacher, then you should STFU and go fix something about yourself!! In my opinion, you are way off base. Pointing out a grammatical error is NOT the same thing as bullying. Calling someone stupid and backward would be bullying behavior. The world isn't all unicorn farts and rainbows. I disagree that it is bullying..."harsh" would describe it better for me. You're right bullying is probably too harsh of a word. But its just asshole behavior. To point out someone else's mistakes. Who wants to be friends with someone who is pointing out their mistakes all the time?
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Post by scraptag on Mar 1, 2015 13:19:41 GMT
The official phrase approved by dictionaries is all of a sudden. The phrase dates back to Shakespeare in The Taming of the Shrew, though oddly the variant all of the sudden was in print six years before Shakespeare.
The word sudden itself means at once or without warning, and all of a sudden is a long way to say suddenly, they are interchangeable. Grammatically speaking there is little difference between using the article a or the. However, dictionaries side with Shakespeare.
Another archaic version of the idiom is on a sudden.
Side note: Sudden also has the nominal derivative of suddenness.
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Post by AmeliaBloomer on Mar 1, 2015 14:35:07 GMT
AussieMeg said: My favorite line in the thread! Snort. [Also - Thanks for the pasted lesson. My father always says that (supposed) tortured preposition quote of Mr. Churchill's. At age 94, though, I'm thinking I won't tell him it's been debunked.]
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Post by tomocus on Mar 1, 2015 14:51:05 GMT
You're right bullying is probably too harsh of a word. But its just asshole behavior. To point out someone else's mistakes. Who wants to be friends with someone who is pointing out their mistakes all the time?
My bolding. I just wanted to say this about being corrected. For me, I would rather know if I am consistently using a word or phrase incorrectly. Here is a little story. I worked with two ladies I considered to be my friends. We often told each other about our kids/grandkids and little things going on in our lives. I noticed they often looked at each other and snickered or giggled when I was telling them stories about my youngest grandson. Since the stories were about things he did that made me laugh, I thought they were entertained and yet there was something about the look and the snicker that bothered me. I would often say "what?" and they would just look at each other and laugh and say "he is just so funny". One day there was another co-worker eating lunch with us when this happened. After we left the lunchroom, the other co-worker came to my desk and said "look, I don't want to hurt your feelings, but I just wanted to make sure you understood why friend 1 and 2 were snickering at you". She continued on, telling me how I was using the word "his self" instead of "himself". Now, I don't know why I had been using the word that way because I did know better. I thanked her for letting me know. From that day forward, I never spoke that way again. However, I was extremely hurt that my friends had spent the LAST TWO YEARS snickering at me and laughing behind my back about a grammar mistake. I never felt the same about them. I did not confront them or stop being friendly with them. But from that day forward, I never trusted them to be truthful about anything. Not only did they lie when I asked them "what?", they laughed behind my back and later I found out they would tell other people in the office and they all had a good laugh at my expense. Just to explain why they apparently found this so funny -- I was the person that EVERYONE in the office, including them, brought their work to for proofreading. I was so hurt -- not because I made a grammar mistake, but because they allowed me to continue making that mistake and then made fun of me. I would rather know than have people laughing behind my back.
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Post by hennybutton on Mar 2, 2015 0:02:48 GMT
The official phrase approved by dictionaries is all of a sudden. The phrase dates back to Shakespeare in The Taming of the Shrew, though oddly the variant all of the sudden was in print six years before Shakespeare. The word sudden itself means at once or without warning, and all of a sudden is a long way to say suddenly, they are interchangeable. Grammatically speaking there is little difference between using the article a or the. However, dictionaries side with Shakespeare. Another archaic version of the idiom is on a sudden. Side note: Sudden also has the nominal derivative of suddenness. Here's the deal. Shakespeare MADE UP the idiom. Shakespeare was a great playwright, and he introduced a lot of phrases to the language. However, he was not the English god of language. Dictionaries may say that one way is correct, but ultimately, idioms are just slang phrases that have gained legitimacy. To get all hot and bothered because someone uses a different article in an idiom is ridiculous. Also, from a linguistic standpoint, this is a natural progression. If you say "of a" and "of the" aloud with short vowel sounds for "a" and "the", you'll find that your mouth makes almost the same movements and they sound almost the same.
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Post by ktdoesntscrap on Mar 2, 2015 3:25:40 GMT
I was so hurt -- not because I made a grammar mistake, but because they allowed me to continue making that mistake and then made fun of me. I would rather know than have people laughing behind my back. I would not call them friends! Not because they didn't correct you but because they were horrible enough to laugh at you, in your face. I think that type of behavior is inexcusable. No matter who you are or what the "mistake" you made.
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Post by tomocus on Mar 2, 2015 13:12:47 GMT
I would not call them friends! Not because they didn't correct you but because they were horrible enough to laugh at you, in your face. I think that type of behavior is inexcusable. No matter who you are or what the "mistake" you made. You are correct, they were not my friends. You will notice I said I was friendLY with them after that. I was not friends with them. I had to remain friendLY to avoid drama in the workplace. From that day forward, I either worked through my lunch or found someplace to go during lunch. I never ate lunch with them again nor was I ever available for anything after work with them again. (I rarely met up with anyone outside of work before that so it was not really obvious when I never did again. However, the few times the occasion arose over the next few years, I was just unavailable).
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Post by Rainbow on Mar 5, 2015 6:11:16 GMT
LOL.
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