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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 17:30:53 GMT
I made these and had the same reservations about the whiskey but added it and it was yummy! Maybe next time - but then what do I do with all the left over whisky? In our house my hubby and son like it (yuck)!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 17:31:07 GMT
Well them make sure that the cough syrup doesn't have any alcohol in it. Some of the script versions do have a form of alcohol in them.
I am out of this thread.
To live a life where absolutely no coffee and absolutely no alcohol in this day & age seems rather far out to me.
But then, I don't know any LDS people. Not a huge religion where I live.
So much for the lemoncello in my lemon pie and no kaluha in my coffee cake.
Each to their own.
And remember to NOT accept the yummy home-made vanilla extract that someone made for you as a Christmas gift. WTF?? Why are you so angry over other people who choose not to drink? Exactly and sadly this is a prevailing opinion in this world People constantly say oh why don't you drink, just have one etc. For some it isn't possible to have a drop ever. It is so ingrained into the world though that you are looked at as a looney bin. Makes recovery hard for some and allergies as well.
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Post by *sprout* on Mar 18, 2015 17:35:12 GMT
Reading replies here should be enough to explain how it could be perceived at school. Why court controversy? If you want them out of the house, can you take to a local FireHouse or Senior Center? I don't know how yours feels about home baked goods... Some accept and some do not. My firefighter DH accepts any and all treats. Loves them. My firefighter DH does, too. However, I would *not* bring any food - baked goods or otherwise - that has alcohol in it. I would never put my DH in that position where something goes terribly wrong on a call and an accusation in made. Just my opinion, of course.
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Post by mrsscrapdiva on Mar 18, 2015 17:42:36 GMT
Inappropriate all over it. I guess just the name, promoting alcohol to middle school children. At home, fine your choice what you do with your own kids. Sending it to school - bad judgement! What's next, Hey Johnny, have some better than sex cake?! lol, but not really.
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Post by lucyg on Mar 18, 2015 17:43:05 GMT
The Muslims I know don't use vanilla extract/cough syrup with alcohol/ etc. The Mormons I know use those things. I think both are goofy, but I am atheist and find religion in general goofy. Interesting. I have an easier time understanding the total abstaining - I had a good friend growing up who was Hindu. I knew their family completely abstained from all beef products. It would have been odd for me if they made an exception for beef broth. But then I suppose that explains why I'm mostly agnostic. I understand it. Vanilla extract and cough syrup have other purposes. They're for cooking or medical use, and aren't intended just for for "taking the edge off," getting drunk, whatever ... purely social/relaxation purposes.
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Post by smokey2471 on Mar 18, 2015 17:45:04 GMT
My firefighter DH accepts any and all treats. Loves them. My firefighter DH does, too. However, I would *not* bring any food - baked goods or otherwise - that has alcohol in it. I would never put my DH in that position where something goes terribly wrong on a call and an accusation in made. Just my opinion, of course. Yeah DH won't even have a couple of beers the night before his shift. Even though a couple of beers won't bother him. I doubt he would even notice if the cupcakes had alcohol though. He would probably just pop one in his mouth. That man eats everything.
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Post by *sprout* on Mar 18, 2015 17:47:56 GMT
DH is the same way. Sadly, in this day and age, appearance is everything.
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Post by Tamhugh on Mar 18, 2015 18:54:41 GMT
I would not have sent something like that with my kids when they were in school. I work in a high school and I would not take them in to work even for my co-workers because of the zero tolerance policies. At home, I would have no problem with my kids eating them (when they were younger, they are both over 21 now) or serving them to my friends.
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Post by elaine on Mar 18, 2015 19:43:52 GMT
I want to know whose public schools here have anything BUT a zero tolerance policy for students bringing alcohol on campus?
For me, it isn't about whether my child shared them or not, or what other parents think or not, it is about knowingly sending my child in with a contraband subtance.
Would you encourage parents who live where pot is legal to bring in to school goodies made with marijuana in them? Even if they didn't share?
If you wouldn't, why is that any different than thinking it is okay to send in goodies baked with alcohol?
Zero tolerance is zero tolerance. Kids get sent home for having aspirin or butter knives in their backpacks. Why would you send something in that could get your kid kicked out?
Again, I have no problem with my kids eating Guinness cupcakes outside of school.
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Post by luckyexwife on Mar 18, 2015 19:59:04 GMT
Interesting. I have an easier time understanding the total abstaining - I had a good friend growing up who was Hindu. I knew their family completely abstained from all beef products. It would have been odd for me if they made an exception for beef broth. But then I suppose that explains why I'm mostly agnostic. I understand it. Vanilla extract and cough syrup have other purposes. They're for cooking or medical use, and aren't intended just for for "taking the edge off," getting drunk, whatever ... purely social/relaxation purposes. What is the purpose of Mormons abstaining from alcohol?
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Post by anonrefugee on Mar 18, 2015 19:59:59 GMT
My firefighter DH accepts any and all treats. Loves them. My firefighter DH does, too. However, I would *not* bring any food - baked goods or otherwise - that has alcohol in it. I would never put my DH in that position where something goes terribly wrong on a call and an accusation in made. Just my opinion, of course. Good point- DUH! sorry! That might be worse than at school!
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Post by gritzi on Mar 18, 2015 20:01:05 GMT
I agree w/Elaine!
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Post by crimsoncat05 on Mar 18, 2015 20:01:40 GMT
Interesting. I have an easier time understanding the total abstaining - I had a good friend growing up who was Hindu. I knew their family completely abstained from all beef products. It would have been odd for me if they made an exception for beef broth. But then I suppose that explains why I'm mostly agnostic. I understand it. Vanilla extract and cough syrup have other purposes. They're for cooking or medical use, and aren't intended just for for "taking the edge off," getting drunk, whatever ... purely social/relaxation purposes. ^^^^^ but-- beer and wine have other purposes, too-- like cooking! before there was good water filtration, people even (gasp!) drank wine or beer with their meals!! Alcohol's sole purpose is NOT to get people falling down drunk. (communion wine, anyone??)
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Post by padresfan619 on Mar 18, 2015 20:02:20 GMT
My firefighter DH does, too. However, I would *not* bring any food - baked goods or otherwise - that has alcohol in it. I would never put my DH in that position where something goes terribly wrong on a call and an accusation in made. Just my opinion, of course. Yeah DH won't even have a couple of beers the night before his shift. Even though a couple of beers won't bother him. I doubt he would even notice if the cupcakes had alcohol though. He would probably just pop one in his mouth. That man eats everything. My cousin is married to a firefighter, he also happens to be the engineer of the fire engine. He CAN NOT have alcohol up to 12 hours before his shift starts. If there was ever an accident while he was operating the fire engine they would test him right away. If he were to test positive he would lose his job. It isn't worth it and when we hang out all together and he has a shift the next day we never give him a hard time about not drinking. I haven't been around peer pressure since before I was even 21.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 20:09:00 GMT
I understand it. Vanilla extract and cough syrup have other purposes. They're for cooking or medical use, and aren't intended just for for "taking the edge off," getting drunk, whatever ... purely social/relaxation purposes. ^^^^^ but-- beer and wine have other purposes, too-- like cooking! before there was good water filtration, people even (gasp!) drank wine or beer with their meals!! Alcohol's sole purpose is NOT to get people falling down drunk. (communion wine, anyone??) Why is it so hard for some to understand that others abstain. It isn't weird, odd or wrong. Just different. I don't get why society is so crazy when one is a non-drinker. Think about how hard it must be for a recovering alcoholic. It's hard enough without everyone asking why don't you drink,etc.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 18, 2015 20:33:12 GMT
I want to know whose public schools here have anything BUT a zero tolerance policy for students bringing alcohol on campus? For me, it isn't about whether my child shared them or not, or what other parents think or not, it is about knowingly sending my child in with a contraband subtance. Would you encourage parents who live where pot is legal to bring in to school goodies made with marijuana in them? Even if they didn't share? If you wouldn't, why is that any different than thinking it is okay to send in goodies baked with alcohol? Zero tolerance is zero tolerance. Kids get sent home for having aspirin or butter knives in their backpacks. Why would you send something in that could get your kid kicked out? Again, I have no problem with my kids eating Guinness cupcakes outside of school. Do you think the school's zero tolerance for alcohol would also ban the vanilla extract in the cupcakes? Why would a teaspoon of 90 proof alcohol be okay, but a teaspoon of 20 proof alcohol be a problem?
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 18, 2015 20:34:43 GMT
^^^^^ but-- beer and wine have other purposes, too-- like cooking! before there was good water filtration, people even (gasp!) drank wine or beer with their meals!! Alcohol's sole purpose is NOT to get people falling down drunk. (communion wine, anyone??) Why is it so hard for some to understand that others abstain. It isn't weird, odd or wrong. Just different. I don't get why society is so crazy when one is a non-drinker. Think about how hard it must be for a recovering alcoholic. It's hard enough without everyone asking why don't you drink,etc. I haven't heard a single person struggle to understand why some people abstain. Many have struggled to understand why some abstain from some alcohol but not others.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 20:40:01 GMT
Why is it so hard for some to understand that others abstain. It isn't weird, odd or wrong. Just different. I don't get why society is so crazy when one is a non-drinker. Think about how hard it must be for a recovering alcoholic. It's hard enough without everyone asking why don't you drink,etc. I haven't heard a single person struggle to understand why some people abstain. Many have struggled to understand why some abstain from some alcohol but not others. It's been said on all these threads. And trust me is a very common theme. I've seen it over and over and makes those that abstain very uncomfortable. But even if they choose not to drink at all but use vanilla extract with alcohol that is still their choice. It just isn't a big deal. And obviously schools don't mind vanilla extract. But I can guarantee you Guinness cupcakes would not fly.
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Post by cycworker on Mar 18, 2015 20:50:51 GMT
I will modify/clarify my answer slightly. I took your post to mean that this was a cupcake for your daughter and a few CLOSE friends, whose parents you know. I wouldn`t do because I care about appearances; I don`t. I would do it to cover myself with school admin/teachers if they complained, and to cover me legally just in case.
I would probably, just to be safe, check with the parents. I would not bring alcohol flavoured cupcakes for a bake sale, class party, etc. I`d only send them in her lunch for her and a couple close friends.
And if the school tried to override me as a parent by suspending her, there would be hell to pay. I would raise a HUGE ruckus.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 20:54:30 GMT
I will modify/clarify my answer slightly. I took your post to mean that this was a cupcake for your daughter and a few CLOSE friends, whose parents you know. I wouldn`t do because I care about appearances; I don`t. I would do it to cover myself with school admin/teachers if they complained, and to cover me legally just in case. I would probably, just to be safe, check with the parents. I would not bring alcohol flavoured cupcakes for a bake sale, class party, etc. I`d only send them in her lunch for her and a couple close friends. And if the school tried to override me as a parent by suspending her, there would be hell to pay. I would raise a HUGE ruckus. Here in the US anyway the parents and the child agree to the student handbook and in it is the zero tolerance for drugs, including alcohol. So it wouldn't be allowed and they have every right to suspend over it.
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Post by cycworker on Mar 18, 2015 20:56:30 GMT
My recipe for the cupcakes call for 1 bottle of Guinness, to be cooked in a saucepan while melting butter and the cocoa.
All the Guinness does is add a deep flavour to the butter and chocolate.
This is my only recipe for chocolate cupcakes. Everybody loves them.
There is one (1) tablespoon of Bailey's in the icing. For 24 cupcakes. That is hardly a lot of booze for anyone. Simply add some flavour to the Buttercream frosting.
St. Paddy's day is ONCE A YEAR! Certain people don't want to consume any alcohol for various reasons. Not to mention there is zero tolerance for it in schools. I keep hearing the `zero tolerance`remark and I`ll say it again, as I`ve said before when I hear that phrase: Zero tolerance is zero thinking. Life`s not black and white.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 20:57:45 GMT
Certain people don't want to consume any alcohol for various reasons. Not to mention there is zero tolerance for it in schools. I keep hearing the `zero tolerance`remark and I`ll say it again, as I`ve said before when I hear that phrase: Zero tolerance is zero thinking. Life`s not black and white. In a public school it is and should be.
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Post by Darcy Collins on Mar 18, 2015 21:03:55 GMT
I will modify/clarify my answer slightly. I took your post to mean that this was a cupcake for your daughter and a few CLOSE friends, whose parents you know. I wouldn`t do because I care about appearances; I don`t. I would do it to cover myself with school admin/teachers if they complained, and to cover me legally just in case. I would probably, just to be safe, check with the parents. I would not bring alcohol flavoured cupcakes for a bake sale, class party, etc. I`d only send them in her lunch for her and a couple close friends. And if the school tried to override me as a parent by suspending her, there would be hell to pay. I would raise a HUGE ruckus. The cupcakes never even WENT to school. But you were correct that my daughter wanted to share a few of the leftovers with a few friends at lunch and I had nixed the idea.
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Post by cycworker on Mar 18, 2015 21:06:55 GMT
I will modify/clarify my answer slightly. I took your post to mean that this was a cupcake for your daughter and a few CLOSE friends, whose parents you know. I wouldn`t do because I care about appearances; I don`t. I would do it to cover myself with school admin/teachers if they complained, and to cover me legally just in case. I would probably, just to be safe, check with the parents. I would not bring alcohol flavoured cupcakes for a bake sale, class party, etc. I`d only send them in her lunch for her and a couple close friends. And if the school tried to override me as a parent by suspending her, there would be hell to pay. I would raise a HUGE ruckus. Here in the US anyway the parents and the child agree to the student handbook and in it is the zero tolerance for drugs, including alcohol. So it wouldn't be allowed and they have every right to suspend over it. There is no way I would agree/sign off on a handbook/rule that prevented me from sending a cupcake in my kid`s lunch just because it has a little bit of alcohol in it. I`d go as far up the chain as necessary to get that handbook altered to make clear that baked goods are exempt. My kid would NOT be serving that suspension.
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Post by cycworker on Mar 18, 2015 21:07:51 GMT
I will modify/clarify my answer slightly. I took your post to mean that this was a cupcake for your daughter and a few CLOSE friends, whose parents you know. I wouldn`t do because I care about appearances; I don`t. I would do it to cover myself with school admin/teachers if they complained, and to cover me legally just in case. I would probably, just to be safe, check with the parents. I would not bring alcohol flavoured cupcakes for a bake sale, class party, etc. I`d only send them in her lunch for her and a couple close friends. And if the school tried to override me as a parent by suspending her, there would be hell to pay. I would raise a HUGE ruckus. The cupcakes never even WENT to school. But you were correct that my daughter wanted to share a few of the leftovers with a few friends at lunch and I had nixed the idea. Ah. I`m sorry you nixed it. Hope next year you will allow her to take one for herself and a few friends.
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Post by cycworker on Mar 18, 2015 21:08:37 GMT
I keep hearing the `zero tolerance`remark and I`ll say it again, as I`ve said before when I hear that phrase: Zero tolerance is zero thinking. Life`s not black and white. In a public school it is and should be. Public school is the LAST place where things should be black & white. We have a responsibility to teach kids to think critically.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 21:08:51 GMT
I wouldn't send them.
I'm not too fond of the name, Irish Car Bomb cupcakes either. Kinda tasteless, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 21:09:14 GMT
Here in the US anyway the parents and the child agree to the student handbook and in it is the zero tolerance for drugs, including alcohol. So it wouldn't be allowed and they have every right to suspend over it. There is no way I would agree/sign off on a handbook/rule that prevented me from sending a cupcake in my kid`s lunch just because it has a little bit of alcohol in it. I`d go as far up the chain as necessary to get that handbook altered to make clear that baked goods are exempt. My kid would NOT be serving that suspension. I guarantee you would lose that battle. Seriously why do they have to have those cupcakes at school? It just isn't necessary.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 21:09:55 GMT
In a public school it is and should be. Public school is the LAST place where things should be black & white. We have a responsibility to teach kids to think critically. When it comes to drugs it is black and white for minors. Including alcohol...IN SCHOOL.
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Post by LavenderLayoutLady on Mar 18, 2015 21:12:15 GMT
There is not enough alcohol to make a difference but it's one of those "avoid the appearance of impropriety" situations. I agree. I wouldn't want to be "that mom." Especially when there are so many more appropriate treats to send.
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